*FYI* Because there are only 3 Tesla (plus 1 Leaf) in the entire 530-unit community, our HOA is not willing to install a public charger (demand is not high enough to turn a profit). Also, some units (like ours) only have 1 deeded parking vs. 2, so either my husband or I would have to fight others for the second parking spot at non-deeded spaces. Since parking spaces are scarce, it does not make sense for HOA to designate an EV spot taking away more parking. That will cause an uproar among residents and risking our cars getting keyed from unhappy people.

@karenbleifer6409

5 жыл бұрын

Joy, this is great information. I am the president of my HOA and we installed 6 level 2 chargers in 2013 when we had maybe 4 EV's in our 480 unit complex in LA. Now we have over 50 Tesla EV's here and one Volt, so it was a good thing we did. Your HOA really should consider installing chargers there even though they are not obligated, as ICE vehicles get phased out, they will feel the pressure. I am happy to show you where and how we did it at my HOA. We are in Century City across from the old Century City Hospital location. I also happen to have a Model 3, which I only purchased last year, but we have almost paid ourselves back on our initial cost ~$45,000 for the 6 chargers and installation. We use SemaConnect level 2 chargers and they work great. Our parking is pretty scarce too, but we figured out a way, I am sure you could too. Let me know if you want to check it out or if I can help in anyway. Everyone in your HOA will thank you!

@jacquescristobal6639

5 жыл бұрын

@@karenbleifer6409 Bravo!!! From France. 😀

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Karen Bleifer Hi Karen, thank you so much for sharing this. I wish I lived in your community! 😊 Unfortunately our HOA board are older residents (retired) and they are clueless about EVs. They don’t want to spend the extra $ installing public chargers when they said “You can install it at your spot.” Hopefully as time goes on and more people get EVs in our community (and with younger board members elected), the tides will change.

@jacquescristobal6639

5 жыл бұрын

Old and very stubborned people on my side too.

@karenbleifer6409

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy I feel your pain, your association will have to get with the times sooner than later because it is the future of transportation. I can honestly say that it has increased our property values and makes our HOA much more desirable than others in the area as we were the first in LA to install and make EV charging available. When choosing where to buy or rent, people tend to gravitate toward the more forward thinking associations. Not to mention of course, that Tesla people are a cool and unique group of people that would enhance any community.

I live in apartment. I just asked my landlord if he would let me install one if I paid for it. It cost me $1k and had him install a separate meter so I can keep track of how much I use. I get 46miles / hour.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh so glad you can install a charger at your apartment!

@haywoodstheman

4 жыл бұрын

What kind of apartment? Do you park right in front of your place? Did you install the wall charger on the building?

@casperschultzhansen1054

4 жыл бұрын

Thats smart

@TeslaRoger

4 жыл бұрын

@@haywoodstheman Apartment above a retail store. Installed high power wall charger on side of building.

@raychill411

4 жыл бұрын

Have you lived in that apartment for a long time and plan on living there a lot longer? Has the $1K been worth it overall?

I enjoyed hearing her overcoming the obstacle of not having a charger at home. Very intelligent gal.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

JoeJ94611 Thank you!

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark!

Really love what you are doing joy! I’m still a teenager, so there is no chance I’m getting a Tesla anytime soon 😂 but videos like this make me feel like in some strange way I do own one! Keep up the great work! It really helps to inspire people and normalise EVs.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

JuvenileSiren 69 haha! Thank you! Hope you can get your own Tesla when you’re older! Cheers.

This is the video someone led me to see if you can live without a home charger!!!!!! I needed this so bad!

Very informative, thanks.

This was really informative, thank you

Always great info joy!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Travis!

Hello from London! Thanks for the great video! Hoping to get a model 3 soon, and not having a home charger was concerning me. But knowing it can be done has really put my mind at ease 😊

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

Hello! London has lamppost chargers on the streets, don’t they? 😊

Thank you for sharing your experience. It was very helpful

Thank You. I have been looking for videos on this topic.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

So glad this helped!

Thanks Joy really informative

Great video! I'm glad that people are willing to go to great lengths to drive their Tesla!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! If there's a will, there's a way!

I'm in a similar situation and this was exactly the information I've been looking for! Thank you! Subscribed! =)

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Very nice 👍. Thanks for sharing your videos about Tesla experiences with us 🙏.

You are awesome and I so like your videos - keep it going !!

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

THANK YOU for making this video and for representing fellow Tesla owners who live/own condos! I just purchased a model Y and have gotten so much negative feedback from people who think that you shouldn’t even consider an EV if you don’t live in a house and have home charging. I just clicked subscribe. 😊

@TeslaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! Keep on busting the myth! 🤜🤛

@miss_elenn6160

10 ай бұрын

Sameeeee!

Joy....great video. I noticed you live in CC. I know that building because my family and I lived next door in the other complex. Keep up the good information. Subscribed!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Sergio L Hey neighbor!!! Hopefully we will run into each other soon! What color is your Tesla?

This is so good to know. I just ordered the model y and I was concerned about how I would charge or if it was possible to own a Tesla without a home charger. I own my home but wanted to wait a few months before installing one. You pretty much answered all my questions and concerns. Thank you so much for this video😁

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I’m so glad this video helped. Enjoy your Model Y!

Hey Joy, always love seeing your content!! 🙂

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Derrick Jones Thank you Derrick! 😊

@derrickjones2998

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy You're welcome!

I don't even have a tesla! I love watching you sis! God keeps gracing you! Love you

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Ha! Love you sis!

Great informative video.

Thank you for this video and for keeping it 💯 and sincere. Great video!

You are soooo inspiring!!! You are also a great example of when someone really wants something, never give up, never surrender! Most of us would be too scarced to own an EV without a home Charger. You are paving the way for all the rest of us. Thank You, and Kudos!!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks! Actually I decided to get a Tesla because of its expansive Supercharging network. You can watch this video here for background info: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKh4s8qFeJuWnNI.html

3:27 The optical image stabilization of your camera is insane. Makes your shots that much more immersive and professional. Great buy!

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phillip! Glad you noticed! It’s actually a wide angle clip on lens to my iPhone XS teamed up with a $99 gimbal. 😊

@forCHRISTJESUS14

4 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy 😯😯 Impressive!

Great Video! Joy

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Maurice!

Great information!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you so much for the video! I’m also in the same situation living in the Los Angeles area. I was interested in getting a Tesla, but not being able to install an EV charger at home deterred my plan. Obviously the ideal situation is to be able to charge at home, but I figured there got to be some Tesla drivers that are not able to do so. After some research, sure enough there are plenty of people who have to rely on chargers outside of their home. There’s a Tesla supercharger about 10 mins from my house, so I decided to get the Model 3 LR. Hopefully it will arrive by end of this month! I’ve watched a bunch more of your videos. Very informative! You’ve gained a new subscriber!

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Norman! I’m so excited for you! I can tell you that with 2.5 years of Tesla ownership, I still don’t have a home charger and I still have no problem charging my Model 3 at all. See you around!

You are a brave and innovative lady in getting your charging done.

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

I never thought I had to have a home charger in order to own a Tesla. You can watch this video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKh4s8qFeJuWnNI.html

Great video I love in LA too and I totally understand I’m lucky my condo comes with free ev charging 👍🏾

actually a home owner doesn't "need" to install a charger, have a washer /dryer outlet is all you need for a better charging

@CallMeFil

3 жыл бұрын

Length of the cord?

@ceribeiro62

3 жыл бұрын

@@CallMeFil can u rephrase your question in a way i understand?

@Mxi.

2 жыл бұрын

If you are the homeowner it does make sense. You have either choice. If you’re a renter you need permission since a permit is needed for either a NEMA 14-50 or wall charger.

Excellent.

Thanks you changed my mind on my plan to get a model Y. I can go on a run while it charges. I do Uber and lyft so I can just go around charging for 5-15 minutes at a time while I wait for the next ride.

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Nice!

Thx..I have thought about it and figured a similar scenario here in NJ. To super charge every two weeks or so..but eventually, apartments will have to equip each spot with a charge point.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

This is good reassurance. I will take my time before installing one. Also, whenever I am running low on charge, I can charge at a nearby charging location before coming home.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Watching again some random vlogs of yours.

Same problem here in Paris, i own a condo for it’s price i can buy a big house elsewhere in France. I don’t have my own parking so charging is challenging but own a M3 and charging is less a problem than i thought. Thanks for this video

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Yann Landot Merci Yann!

I live in an appartment with only a 110v plug to charge my Model 3. It's super slow but it's possible. There is a supercharger location about 15 minutes away from where I live when I need it.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing!

@ItalianStallionTV

2 жыл бұрын

montreal quebec !

Great video

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

We cant install them! I want one! Thank you for this vid. Thanks you!

In Europe some gas stations also have charging stations for electric vehicles 🚗 . Nice video I love to watch your videos ♥️

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Teixeira Thank you!

Another win, Joy. Preaching to the choir, in the same boat, but still . . . no range anxiety here :-)

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

John P. Weiksnar 🤜🤛

Homes are super expensive these days, even out in an affordable area like Pheonix AZ, you need at least $100k to put down on a house to get a reasonable mortgage payment, then throw in maintenance, and property taxes, and it adds up

@gumerzambrano

3 жыл бұрын

Why do you need 100k down when homes are much cheaper? For a 300k AZ home you only need 60k down

My dad i think you did Name a few and thanks for the name of the free one

I live in a flat in London. There is unallocated parking and I had a charger installed (with permission). But I have so much trouble from other residents that when I get my Model 3 I am thinking of not upgrading it but using public charge stations instead. Saving cost of upgrade. Also some of public chargers cost less than home electricity charges.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your feedback. Hopefully as more people switch to EVs this problem will go away. Right now people aren’t educated about Tesla or EV.

I’ve had my P85D with no home charging for almost 1 year. I commute about 100 miles per day round trip. I am however lucky enough to have 2 wall chargers at my work 40A charging each charger.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@chanchiem

4 жыл бұрын

What do you do when the chargers are being used?

@1jdmcrx04

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffery Saeteurn now on the second year and have yet to have an issue. We still have 2 Tesla wall chargers at work with 3 Tesla’s (1 - P100D, 1 - P85D and 1 - model 3) we all share the chargers with no issues. My P85D is usually done charging by lunch on most days.

We have a 2020 bolt and our condo building won't allow us to install chargers due to aged infrastructure. We charge once a week at the fast charger at Walmart and that gets us through the rest of the week.

Very Interesting. I now have a Tesla, and I would love my HOA to work with me, but there are a bunch of challenges to find the right constructions and cost. Thankfully, there are more and more chargers around, but it would be nice to have the one at home. It would save so much time! It would be good for the HOA to innovate for the future...hopefully HOA's have more future forward thinkers.

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

Newer communities will have chargers installed. My community was built in 1973 so it’s not easy to do this.

I don't live in L.A. but I travel there a lot. I have a plug-in hybrid so I'm always on the lookout for juice (even though gas-only I still get 500 miles range on a full tank). I use EvGO and ChargePoint mostly. I use Volta when they are available since they are scarce/sparse with parking spots/slots. The app will tell you they're open and when you get there the spot is taken. Also, Blink is another one I use, they don't charge super fast but they're usually always available. There are some parking garages that have free charging if you can find them on the PlugShare app. I have found a couple of them on there. It sucks to hear you can't charge at home. My plug-in maxes out at 22 miles EV-only and I charge on a 110v at home, only takes a few hours to charge. It covers my 11 mile round trip commute to work. Obviously with a Tesla I'd need more juice capability but I'll cross that bridge once I make my purchase 😁 also, ChargeHub and EVGateway are some other charging station finding apps

I live in Chicago. It’s harder here to have Tesla without a charger in a convenient location installed where you park like work or home (if you live in a place with a garage with a charger) because in the winter the battery isn’t as efficient and you get way less range. Especially those days when it’s minus 0 it’s a nightmare man. Besides that it’s a really great experience owning a Tesla.

Hi Joy amazing video. I like all your videos, as those are more practical. This is really very helpful. I live in Boston in an apartment on rent and was looking to buy Tesla Model 3 SR+. However was not sure how would i charge car when i don't have EV chargers in the community. Any other suggestions that you can share from Boston perspective will be helpful.

While I have home charging, I definitely don’t see that ability as a requirement to have own a Tesla. I had my car for a month before I got home charging installed. Before then I had easy access to a Supercharger and Destination charging areas I could charge as well. With Electrify America push, there is a entire new set of options for charging outside home charging.

@johnp.weiksnar6861

5 жыл бұрын

> With Electrify America push, there is a entire new set of options for charging outside home charging. James, can you clarify? EA stations typically offer CCS and CHAdeMO fast DC charging . . . unfortunately Model 3 can't use either in North America, yet (Model S and X can use an optional CHAdeMO adapter for ~$600). The expense of an eventual CCS adapter plus the high cost of their charging could pay for a LOT of Supercharging.

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766

3 жыл бұрын

I agree that it is not a reqirement to have a charger at home, but I woud argue it is essential to have a convenient charging option for your day to day driving. Having to go somewhere and wait while the car is changing is not convenient. Having an option do at least 90% of your charging while parked, I believe is important. Depending on situation, different options are preferable: at home or at work, fairly slow charging is usually enoug. Shorter time activities, fast AC or even rapid DC can be the prefered option.

I don’t think I could do that but good video!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! As I mentioned in the video, charging infrastructure will mature as EV movement gains momentum. You are probably not ready yet because of the lack of charging places around you, but in the future it won't be an issue.

I also own a Tesla Model 3 and live in southern California. I have owned my Tesla since February and I have to say, charging has become a unique part of my life. I do have a Tesla charger installed in my home garage but I am a government contractor living out of hotels most of the time. I use the Tesla super chargers as a means of a last resort. They cost much more than other chargers even thought the charging times are much faster, (and the nearest ones are 16 miles away). I have adapted my daily schedule to work around the charging options. For instance, one location had Charge Point on site but I could only charge a maximum of 4 hours (driving 120 miles per day) and while appreciated it was also inconvenient, they had a wait list. If you got on the wait list after 7:30 AM you might not get your turn. Looking for better solutions I found that if you were close enough to a Metro Station with EV connect, you could charge as long as you needed on a first come first serve basis. Remaining range and charging options are certainly a source of stress, but once you figure out your options it becomes a matter of routine. There is a charger near my gym (charge point) and I've found that a good workout can last two hours and provide 88 miles of range. So as they say, where there is a will, there is a way.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! I agree with you that owning a Tesla or EV definitely causes lifestyle and routine change when it comes to charging. The ChargePoint I use by work also has a waitlist. I often have to get on it before I leave the house or else I won’t be able to get in line in time before I leave the office.

Hi joy. Just found your blog, i own a Nissan Leaf and live in a flat in Oxford (city of dreaming spires) UK. The council is very hot about those of us who have no charger. They have now put a charging post in my street.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard! So glad you found my channel. It’s great your council is putting charging post on your street. I saw in UK there are lampposts outfitted to also let EVs charge. That’s a brilliant idea! Wish US does that too.

Surprisingly Houston’s very scarce in super challenging stations. There’s only about three or four and about 30-40mins from where I live. However they in ideal locations where the main loads are leaving town. Luckily though I noticed a new location is being constructed about 20mins from me and is in a area I often go to. Yet no Tesla purchase plans anytime soon.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing!

I'm a new subscriber and future Tesla owner. Love all your contents about Tesla. Regarding not having a charger at home, it's not a problem. If I recall, ICE vehicles owners, they don't have a gas station home either. They still have to go to the gas station to refill. The only difference beside money, is time. Tesla owners just need more time to recharge but save so much more money.

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for subscribing Colin! You totally nailed this! Tesla is always working on ways to reduce supercharging time so in the future supercharging will take the same amount of time as filling up at a gas station. But of course ideally, it would be great that everyone can just charge at home. 😊

You’re right...it’s not cost effective to get a charger installed where you live...that’s just too crazy for that amount. In my area...or rather not in my area there are 2 supercharger stations but they’re miles away from where I live...such a bummer. I could have the cord run from one room on my main level to my garage but that would be a pain in the you now what AND it would take forever to charge. I’ll just wait until I move and then have an electrician wire my garage.

In L.A., various DWP offices have free fast DC charging

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Yup!

Short Answer (from me): Absolutely! I am similar to Joy in the fact that I only charge off of Tesla Superchargers, I don't own a home charger. Going off to College soon so installing a charger at home would be a waste in two months.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Virus_City Thank you for sharing!

@TeslaJoy

10 ай бұрын

@artietrieu4271 not at all! I have a video a few weeks ago that talks about how I’ve been keeping my battery healthy with near 100% supercharging. Look it up on the channel.

@TeslaJoy

10 ай бұрын

@artietrieu4271 You’re welcome! That’s why I started the channel!

Great video and good information. Next car will be a Tesla. Midlife crisis cybertruck or the 3. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I asked my company to install a NEMA 1450, they agreed to help be Greener, allows me to charge while at my office during the day. You may want to ask if you have a place that could work, they may be happy to help.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Darcy Kline My company is a small office situated in a little strip mall. We do stacked parking with another business in a tiny little parking lot that we share, so it’s not possible for our landlord to install chargers. This is why I’ve been using the one by work as stated in this video.

Why not

An amazing video again Joy. You are lucky to live in California but if you were living in Quebec Canada with are very cold winter you would need a home charger to heat up you car in the morning when the temperature drop to -20C (-5F) and have enough energy to commute your day. That is why also in Quebec people living in condo do not by EV. But a new law was issued in last March that all new condo built must prevent to have opportunities for installation of Charger or the permit for the construction will not be issued because as you probably know Quebec is a ZEV province

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Serge Desnoyers Yes the cold weather definitely reduces battery SOC greatly and you will have to charge more frequently.

@jimacep5089

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure where you live in Quebec but in Montreal, winter days and evenings can go under -30C (-22F) so not sure how an EV will start up in the morning under these conditions if parked outside and not plugged in. Certain winter days, I've required a battery boost from CAA/AAA to get my gasoline car started I've been considering a Tesla 3 especially since the federal government implemented the $5k discount. Added to the Quebec $8k discount gives a total of $13k discount on a $55k model Tesla 3 standard range plus. However, not being able to charge it at home (I live in an apartment style condo) and the Quebec winters has given me some hesitation. I'm not worried about the reduced range compared to my gas car since going to/from work each day is only 50km (31 miles) total so in a week would be only 250km. A standard range plus model Tesla 3 is around 380km range so I would be able to charge it on the weekend fully or to 90% to repeat the process the following week. There is also a 150km (93 miles) Tesla 3 but I don't really see anyone purchasing this and is just Tesla's way of qualifying for the federal government's $5k rebate discount.

@sergedesnoyers2222

5 жыл бұрын

Jim AP I live in Montréal and I have my Tesla M3 Long range since June 2018 so I past the worst last winter we have with my Tesla sleeping outside all the time. And I can tell you that at -30C it start immediately but no regen - battery to cold but the car get warm in about 5 min with seat heater on and heater of the car on also but you reduced the range of the car. So it is better to have the Tesla plugin to warmup before living home. So no problem with winter

Love you channel, very nice detail information, although I didn't own a Tesla...may be I will after watching this video, the place I work have 2 charging stations like the one you use at work, there are total of 8-10 EV/Plug in Hybrid fighting for charge point daily...!! I like your video about changing the display to traditional Chinese, awesome feature. 謝謝你的好KZread視頻.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Tony Lu 謝謝你Tony! So glad my videos are helpful for you to think about switching to Tesla. This car is really future proof and you won’t spend much on maintenance at all (there is no engine!), and good for the environment (reduces air and noise pollutions). If you ever decide to get a Tesla, please feel free to use my referral link so you can get some free supercharging credit. ts.la/joy88451 See you around!

@nedear88

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy Hello Joy, thank you for your supercharging referral credit, just FYI I was inline deposit $1k back in 2016 in Palo Alto Tesla store but I cancelled it in 2018 because the base model wait was no date!!! That was my ideal daily commuter to replace my 2011 Toyota Prius, I still have it as I type this comment, now that I calculate my daily commute miles are almost 100 round trip, that mean either I have to charge it every other day vs my current Prius need to fill up in 4 days, I have kids school pickup / drop off during mid day (daily) so I don't think EV fit in my case, nevertheless I'd like to see more video(s) from your channel, may be a video for actual cost for each KWH in reality. Cheers.

Should come to UK then my town has 5 charge posts that 5 single post's and they are all 3&7 kw outlets. EV not an option for me yet as council states not interested in upgrading or instaling new posts

How about building a secured lock box and installing a solar panel and generator to charge at your space?

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

HOA violation.

Have you considered ‘renting’ a covered garage parking space installing with permission to install a charging station, which will increase the value of their unit.

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

There are no spaces left. Everything is deeded to perspective home owners.

I’ve cried all day on my losing Tesla stocks until I saw your newly uploaded vid, you made my day thank you!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

HoneNi Heixiu Haha! Don’t worry about the stock. It goes up and down. I just bought more shares too. 😉

@honeniheixiu8119

5 жыл бұрын

Tesla Joy I probably should buy more too, it takes a lot of faith and determination when it’s falling like this.

I too live in a condo with no charging. I have underground parking, but the meters are too far away from my parking spot. I rely on public charging down the street, the super charger network, and my 110 outlet at work. I live in Raleigh-Durham. Great Video!

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

08micev Fantastic! Thank you for sharing!

very interesting for me to learn the situation in US cities, and really enjoyable to watch your videos. Here in Germany, town houses are very popular for small families in the suburbs, and the houses in the middle have their garages often seperated in a garage court in common property of all owners. Often those garages have no electricity installed. When you want to electrify your garage, you have to obtain the approval of all owners even if you are willing to pay for your installation and have your own electric meter - and often one or the other owner will not approve for fear of some follow-up costs.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing. It's very interesting to see how other countries are dealing with EV charging challenges in multi-unit housing situation.

About conversion from gas station to charging stations. In Norway, there is kind of a transition, along highway routs, they are getting more likely to be called "service stations", because they offer multiple services: refueling for ICE, diner/fastfood, restrooms, convenience store, and increasingly also rapid charging. I believe rapid charging is most important along the main routes. Tose who can have a home charger should, and as there come more EVs, I believe public slow shargers should have a fair payment, to make it available to those who needs it. I believe free charging is a nice idea, but it easily gets crowded by people who don't need to charge, but they just wants to charge for free.

I wonder if they'll ever have a system for apartment dwellers where you can charge up a portable battery in your home/parking lot and then wheel it over to your car at night and plug it in to charge the main battery for a few extra miles range (like a portable charger for a phone).

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Ken Bob That’s the idea I’ve been pitching to AAA! Mobile charging units.

What is Tesla doing to target these individuals?! Thank you Joy for posting the exact situation I am in! I am going to buy my Tesla today! I have an appointment in 4 hours! 😁

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

So excited for you!!!!

So with the level two charger near work, you just keep an eye on the time and go move your car after two hours? I am lucky enough to have level 2 charging in my garage, however of course it isn't free.....

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Great question! These ChargePoint stations actually have a "Wait List" feature. If the spots are taken, you add yourself to the queue either from the app or online account (you can view your position in queue online). When it's your turn, the app will notify you and/or send you a text. You have 5 minutes to respond/accept/snooze/leave wait list, and another 15 minutes grace period to actually drive over and plug in. The chargers have a 2-hour timer and will stop charging automatically when your time is up. The app again will notify you/send you a text when your 2-hour is up. You have a 10-minute grace period to unplug and move your car thereafter. Some cars have overstayed and the city will start imposing overstaying/penalty fees starting next month, much like Tesla Supercharger idling fees.

I have a Model 3 and live in a condo (Northern California) and honestly it's not a big deal. I can and occasionally do plug my car in to 110v via a plug in my storage unit, but there is free charging everywhere around me. It's just not an issue at all. Do you freak out that you don't have a gas pump at your house? :)

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Right?! That's what I've been telling people when they told me "You shouldn't buy a Tesla or EV if you can't charge at home." I said "You didn't have a gas pump in your garage before when you had ICE, so how did you survive?"

Well someone here in my country who don't have parking space at all, did buy a very long cable and made it from his apartment to the street and install a plug there into the tree next to the street, to charge his car using the standard 3 pin cable that came with the car. It's that safe but it possible and cheap.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Sal It’s good that he can do that, but I wonder if he is creating safety hazard for people tripping over the cord? You can’t do that here in the States.

@salemazzam6502

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy no the cord goes obove the street (high in the air to the tree then goes down) from his apartment. you cant hit or step into the cord if you walk there :) i have pictures but i cant post them here

@ulfcihak8609

5 жыл бұрын

@@salemazzam6502 but nevertheless Sal, I think in Germany it would not be allowed for safety's sake. Here you have to dig your electric wires into the ground

@salemazzam6502

5 жыл бұрын

@@ulfcihak8609 yes it's not safe and shouldn't done it but when there's no choice so he have to, as there's no charging station for him to go to.

Joy, yours is a very common problem in Nor Cal Bay Area as well. In fact, from what I have seen personally, and even on Reddit, a significant percentage of Model 3 buyers either rent, or own a home where installing a L2 charging station isn't worth it. That being said, fast charging long term won't degrade your battery pack as much as people think. However, if I were in your situation, I would try slower L2 charging whenever it was practicable, to maintain battery health.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment Frank. What’s great about Tesla is their BMS is unmatched in EV industry right now. They are doing everything they can to preserve health of battery during supercharging like pre-heating battery en route to Supercharger and not dumping all high current at once but do a ramp up/peak/ramp down trickle charge to ensure battery isn’t damaged.

I'm from Bulgaria. I rent a small apartment, park on the street second hand Tesla Model S and relay on public charging spots.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing! I'm always really interested to find out how people around the world are charging their Tesla.

Plenty of SuperChargers in CA, but if one mostly SuperCharges .. you loose the whole energy cost savings of driving an EV, when comparing to most pure hybrids that get 45-50mpg .. since SuperCharger rates are 2 to 3X the cost of day time electric rates. Home charging at reduced night rates, does yield a nice cost save over gas.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

BigCooter.com Yes, but you forgot that hybrid spends way more on maintenance than Tesla. In the end, Tesla cost of ownership is lower than hybrids due to that near zero maintenance factor.

@KrustyKlown

5 жыл бұрын

@Scott Luther True ...but most of the CA Tesla owners lease, so they don't give a crap about the car's battery.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Actually not true. Model 3 battery is way more advanced than Model S or Model X (or any other EVs out there right now). As long as you are not charging frequently to 100% and supercharge everyday (which 99% Model 3 owners don't do), you are totally fine.

The cost in the video makes my $10k quote to install in my building's garage look like a good deal. I am even the HOA board president and realistically would not approve spending HOA funds that benefit only a limited number of homeowners. I've been relying on public L2 chargers with minimal issues, but it is becoming more difficult to find availability as EV become more popular in LA. Eventually, I may bite the bullet and pay for my EVSE installation for convenience purposes, if I can find a slightly less expensive electrician.

i wont have money to buy a tesla EVER. but, i just chekked and there seems to be a 11kw charger only 1km away from where i live. the dream lives on!

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Nice! If you keep saving you can get one. It starts at $35K.

@Eagles_Eye

4 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy unfortunatly i don't live in america, here the cheapest one is 49k euros ( 57k dollars) pre tax ( tax is around 21%) even if i'd do a financial lease and pay 15k upfront, i'd still pay around 250 ( ex taxes) per month and have a rest worth of 16k but if i wanted a model 3 and was able to afford it i'd go for the longer range model. unfortunatly with my wages and expanses i will not be able to make that kind of purchase ( it wouldn't be financially a good decision )

Hi Joy! Nice video! I just subscribed and thumbs up! May I ask 1) if you see any battery degradation after charging solely on the super chargers and third-party chargers? 2) If you worry that the protruding part of the charger might get damaged by traffic on the street as it is located on the left side of the car? Thank you very much!

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for subscribing! To answer your questions 1) yes but it’s very little so I’m not even worried. 2) not at all! 😊

That is why I never charged at home since my last road trip. 😜 but I have to fight for free one because there is too many ev in my area.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Ha! That’s why ChargePoint and the city where I work in implemented a waitlist system on those chargers so everyone gets their turn.

Hi Joy, I just put my down payment on the CyberTruck after watching your video! Whoa Tesla!

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

No way Mike! I’m so happy to hear!!!

How do you find these charging stations that aren’t super chargers?

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

I showed them in the video.

One of the benefits of an EV is the convenience of a full charge every morning before a busy day, and possibly save money by charging off peak, mostly 12 am to 6 am. This may explain why people think charge at own garage is a must.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

James Young But clearly there are places where charging at home is impossible, as I stated in this video.

@jamesyoung8797

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy Understood Joy, I was trying to answer your question, why so many people think one needs to be able to charge at own garage. Life is hectic enough, people want less inconveniences, not more, even if just a little more. Being able to charge overnight at home makes it more convenient than owning an ICE, without that option it is the opposite, less convenient than having an ICE. That is a big deal to many. BTW, I suspect the other Model 3 owner not installing a charger is due to security concern. A $500 charger in common area is an easy target, won't last long.

just to the right of your parking spot there looks to be a 110 power box. You don't need a $500 charger, I simple 110v plug would make a world of a difference. I have a friend that lives in a condo complex and he was going to a fast charger once a week to charge his bolt. I walked around with him and two parking spaces over there was a 110 plug. Just asked the guy to swap places. Now he gets 50 miles a night.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Good observation. Unfortunately that belongs to the HOA so I can't connect to it because it will incur costs to them. Also that box is enclosed with no outlet, so there's no way you can plug in.

@BonanzaPilot

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy I would ask if you could add a submeter and outlet to that box ($100)and include the cost of the electricity with your HOA assessments. Your total cost would be the meter and whatever the HOA says electricity costs. Very simple solution, you can afford, and you will get 40-50 miles every night.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

@@BonanzaPilot I did and they said no. They don't want this getting messy. They want the charger & meter to be completely separate from HOA meter and use my own meter which is way too far as you saw in video.

@BonanzaPilot

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy asking for a submeter and 110v outlet is very clean and simple. Doesn't sound like they are being reasonable. They are required to be reasonable by law. Civil Code § 4745

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

@@BonanzaPilot Like I mentioned, that outlet is not open. It's completely shut close, so they will not temper their property to let me plug in, period. That's the HOA rule. Also, they allow owners to install chargers at their space, as long as it's completely separate from HOA meter, which is very reasonable. Additionally, by using that HOA meter, I'm going into Common Area and I will have to enter into a licensing agreement with them. It's way too complicated and not worth the time.

I’m in the same dilemma. Also live in LA and I’ve been wanting a Telsa but I read some many mix infor. Some say supercharging is bad the battery do u think that is true? Pls share ur experience. Have you noticed a difference in the battery? I know your car is pretty new but just want to know what your thoughts are w super charging.

@TeslaJoy

Жыл бұрын

Hi, you will be totally fine. Please check out my playlist labeled “battery” for more info on supercharging. I also have yearly review videos where I share battery health each year. My car is 5 years old already. Hope it helps!

Anyway to move to an apartment that has a charging station or where you can put one ? Not sure if you mentioned it.

@TeslaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

I own my condo.

So more questions: Does reducing the amperage before using Tesla super charge you Car give increase battery life?

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

As I mentioned earlier, you cannot adjust that setting when supercharging. Everything is preset by Tesla.

No grass area? Geez! How about the roof, then? (accessing it from top floor) I live on 13 Acres in Texas, I wouldn't be happy there! Just keep hope that a solution will present itself to you.

@TeslaJoy

4 жыл бұрын

Nope. Los Angeles is very crowded. Every inch is claimed. If not private property then city property, even grass area. They are zoned and planted intentionally.

Hello Joy, looking at where you park your Model 3, could you not install a solar charger?

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

Solar charger is even more expensive to install. About $17K.

I recently purchased a model 3 and to my understanding fast charging is not always good for my battery. Can I crank down the charging speed on my car's screen?

@TeslaJoy

Жыл бұрын

Not for supercharging and it’s fine if you do. Just follow the advice I gave in my videos.

Just looking at how far your meter was from your spot, I was like, "that's going to be many thousands, so not worth it lol." I'm actually surprised not more people in your condo community don't have Tesla's since you live in Socal. We were up in Portland this past weekend for a wedding, and I counted a total of 4 Tesla's the entire weekend. Was a bit surprised since Portland is pretty liberal. I'm sure you've seen how many Tesla's are up here in Norcal, seriously like a dime a dozen. I'm glad I see many of them everyday. And yay for free charging! I use Volta too up here since we have a mall that's right across the street from work for free energy (I do also have a NEMA 14-50 at home that I try to not use :P)! I think they just have deals with retail locations since I would think the logic is plug in your car for free for a while, and spend money at our retail shops or restaurants in the area. That's where all the Volta chargers in our area are situated. Great video and I totally believe if you live in the right area, home no charging isn't really a big deal at all.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

nukem384 I’ve been talking to people around the complex (as recent as last night). The biggest misconception about owning a Tesla is people thought you *cannot* survive if you didn’t install a charger at home. Hopefully as more people see us driving our Tesla around the community, the myth will be busted and more people will jump on it. But this also means Tesla needs to build more Superchargers quickly. The closest Superchargers to me is often a 15-20 minute wait time in the line before a stall is open for you to charge. It gets very frustrating and people still prefer going to gas station for that reason.

@nukem384

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy We're still the early adopters. As time goes on, there will definitely be more superchargers and level 2 chargers being built everywhere. My friend has had a Model S since about 2014, and he said even now, it's SO much easier to charge than it was back then. With the rumor talks of Tesla possibly letting other companies use their superchargers, I'm sure they are going to build as many as they can, as fast as they can to make EV charging convenient for everyone.

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

nukem384 Exactly!

I heard that frequent supercharging will effect the battery , pls correct me

@TeslaJoy

Жыл бұрын

Not at all. Please watch this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoWorsaIl9rRorA.html

can I power my house withs tesla model 3? Use it as a powerwall??

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

No.

I’m high key scared. Just bought a long range model 3 Tesla and I have no home or work charger..and I commute 500 miles per week

@TeslaJoy

3 жыл бұрын

Are there superchargers along the 500miles route?

:)).. .condo building etc should use 1 of their parking spots as an EV charging stall... just paint it green and put in a 50 amp plug and let ppl book it for say 8 hrs at a time

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

M That doesn’t work right now as there are only 3 Tesla + 1 Leaf out of the entire 530 units. When they install a charger like that they want to make sure enough people own EV to warrant the installation in order to make a profit. Also non-assigned parking spaces are limited as we have 2 cars but only 1 deeded space. We are constantly fighting for open parking spots with others. Taking a spot away for EV charging will cause an uproar and risking our cars getting keyed. Not practical right now.

@MAGApepe

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeslaJoy ,, well i sort of mean in general as an idea model for all other buildings etc,, as i am sure in cases like yours it might not work..everyone has their own charger so only a plug is needed and i would think over all most building have visitor parking that a spot could be converted etc.. i have seen some of the newer condos already have spots made for EV charging for owners / renters . others i have heard about split the install cost of a plug to their own parking spot, lots of options that ppl can think of to make things work with an EV car :)

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

Agree!

my work place has an electric charger so yes

@TeslaJoy

5 жыл бұрын

That’s great!