I love it when you make planes that seem that they would never be made in real life, but also seem the could be brought up in a board meeting.

@extraordinarytv5451

11 ай бұрын

To be fair tankbusters were a thing during ww2 and they were just this

@aperson336

11 ай бұрын

ac 130 moment

@aperson336

11 ай бұрын

@@extraordinarytv5451 i mean not a howitzer

@toasterhavingabath6980

11 ай бұрын

Ace combat

@freedomfighter2054

11 ай бұрын

@@aperson336yeah there was, the hs-129 mounted a 75

I love how we skipped 105 and 120 and went straight to 152mm. This isn’t a warthog, this is a rhino

@nunyabidness674

8 ай бұрын

The A-10 Thunderbolt 2 (AKA the "Warthog") is only a 30mm, but it's a gatling style gun. We never really "Skipped" the 105s in production of cannon armed aircraft. The AC-130 carries those... If you really want to look at it a bit different, you could say that Japanese dive bombers responsible for the end of USS Arizona were armed with cannon ammo. The "bombs" were 14inch battleship shells in a casing that allowed them to be carried by the bombers.

@Power5

7 ай бұрын

Largest on an actual Tank is 120mm from germany I think. M82 just went straight for heavy artillery. Not Gustav sized or anything but certainly massive to be flying overhead.

@nunyabidness674

7 ай бұрын

@@Power5 lol, according to half of news reporters, a 155MM SPG isn't arty, it's a tank... Then you wind up with KZread comments, leaving KZread pushing that info...

@GlopPlopJop

5 ай бұрын

​@@Power5russian 125's:

@Camilo_Z

5 ай бұрын

​​@@Power5There were 140mm tank prototypes like the M1 Thumper or the Leclerc Terminateur, (and many more).

Engineer: "Sometimes you need a little less gun." (The Engineer was found 3 months later in a ditch.)

@randomcontent789

12 күн бұрын

That’s what happens when you don’t use more gun when encountering a big mean mother Hubbard who wants to tear you a structurally superfluous new behind

Therapist: Twin engine XP-55 on crack with a howitzer doesn't exist it can't hurt you. Twin engine XP-55 with a howitzer:

@Creamin_All_Offensive

2 ай бұрын

That's not an XP-55, it's a Horten J55-50-229-155 (least craziest German/American prototype plane design.

The props are supersonic. I hope the crew doesn't mind the absurdly loud sound generated... (cough cough Thunderscreech cough cough)

@Cythil

11 ай бұрын

Helps mask the loud sound of the 152 mm howitzer. ;)

@volatile100

11 ай бұрын

The T-6 Texan has supersonic props, at the tips at least. They're way louder than P-51s or P-47s. If you ever see the Honda Aeroshell team, you'll get it.

@rustyATV

11 ай бұрын

*Tu-95 enter chat

@haody3494

11 ай бұрын

@@rustyATVThat loud fellow is not supersonic but still very loud.

@Kroggnagch

11 ай бұрын

I’m getting nauseous just standing next to this thing, boss! Is that normal? Lol

This game needs to release in early access already, it's pretty dang polished for this point in development and the hype train is approaching the speed of light.

@maxo.9928

11 ай бұрын

I'm getting tired of watching videos and hearing "you can dl the craft". Like, cool. 90% of the audience can't do anything with it.

@kuhnville3145

11 ай бұрын

I definitely would want to see that, and I'd more than likely get it

@deltacx1059

11 ай бұрын

@@maxo.9928 i love seeing what can be done but i want to do it after a point not watch someone do cool things.

@dragonblaze_x1721

11 ай бұрын

I deal like they are worried about the fact that the game is just building with no campaign or any enemies really at all.

@simplewolf5946

11 ай бұрын

@@maxo.9928 Yeah I'm right there with you on that. Like whats the point of keeping the project under wraps, but then distributing it to influencers who'll definitely get more eyeballs on the games then there would be if it was just released. Completely defeats the purpose of keeping your unfinished game out of the public eye. Beta testing is one thing, but at this point this is a straight up "influencer only" type game.

Honestly, that giant drum magazine in the center of the plane looks ridiculous but is also awesome. It give the plane a very interesting and unique silhouette.

Next up 406 mm. Another use for this aircraft would be a heavy interceptor with proximity fused ammunition. As well as a bunker buster.

@brody7714

11 ай бұрын

38cm rocket mortar xD

@isaacm1929

11 ай бұрын

Fast & Movable CAS. Shoot and Fly tactics lol

@XxMrsalsatenangoxX

11 ай бұрын

flying yamato battleship

@shanedoesyoutube8001

11 ай бұрын

​@@XxMrsalsatenangoxXYamato's gun size was 460, not 406

@merafirewing6591

4 ай бұрын

​@@shanedoesyoutube8001 great idea, mount a single 460mm gun in what will be the godzilla of planes.

that opening skit was incredible, i love it

Couple of things: Having the drum Magazine at the center of gravity is incredibly important in a plane like this. Very well done! Ammo is make up a significant amount of weight, so having the drum at center of gravity is the only way to give the pilot any chance of hitting consecutive shots, since there are no fly by wire aim assist shenanigans going given the level of tech. Also, given enough fuel capacity or even mid air refueling (aerial refueling was invented and used even before WW2) this this could be a potent ASW / convoy raid aircraft. Stick a radar on it, give it another seat for a navigator, done... Though the crews will probably hate it given the lack of accomodations for missions that last so long.

@Knot_Sean

11 ай бұрын

I bet if he made the fuselage larger for atleast behind the pilot and a walkway / viewbubbles it would be a literal maritime attack/bomber,recon aircraft

@ksavierkrajewski716

10 ай бұрын

tbh tho itd not really a drum mag but a carousel so it would become offbalanced

Seems like this could have been a candidate for a lifting body to accomodate the ammo drum.

As the Germans, Italians, Americans, and Japanese would say, YES, yes you can :)

@BufferThunder

11 ай бұрын

dont forget about the americans.

@Lenevor

11 ай бұрын

bruh you good?@@BufferThunder

@mikehi8214

11 ай бұрын

@@BufferThunder really. The AC150 is to small

@thelethalpredator672

11 ай бұрын

​@mikehi8214 the ac130 gun is a 105mm gun. And the B25G used a 75mm cannon in the nose

@LastGoatKnight

11 ай бұрын

Not so sure about the Japanese and Italian part (maybe it's my lack of knowledge) but other than that I agree

This is gloriously insane, like someone saw either the Mosquito Tsetse Fly or the B-25g/H and went 'needs more gun'. :D

@AmurTiger

11 ай бұрын

That actually happened for the Mossie, they mounted a 32 pounder on the thing, equivalent to the German 105mm anti-tank gun in terms of shell weights and velocities.

could you imagine the force on the plane as the massive autoloader quickly spins after every shot fired? the weight distribution as the plane becomes off balance as the autoloader is slowly drained of ammo?

@insectinvasion4201

11 ай бұрын

That could be worked around just have the loader skip rounds to keep the balance close to normal and put the cg of the loader on the cg of the plane

@Phantom-bh5ru

11 ай бұрын

@@insectinvasion4201 skippy rounds would help but as its reloading one side would still get lighter as the autoloader rotates. and if you have to autoloader rotate side to side instead of one way then the motion between reloads would be way higher than the other way and cause alot more rocking motion

@devinlarson1947

11 ай бұрын

​@@Phantom-bh5ru Unless the auto loader has two drums that rotate opposite directions.

@Phantom-bh5ru

11 ай бұрын

@@devinlarson1947 that would likely work but that would also be WAY WAY more complex, maintenance heavy, and prone to malfunctions

@xxxanonymous3280

11 ай бұрын

​@@Phantom-bh5ru Maybe the autoloader should rotate about 180 degrees. So it picks up ammo on one side and then the other - this could keep the balance at one point (or near it as possible).

8:18 are we just gonna forget about that massive tail strike?

It is similar to the P.108 Series 2 with a 102mm cannon installed on it

If the gun was more in line with the center of mass and thrust you will have less trouble with recoil and possible offset the cockpit to compensate for the change in the air frame.

@rrenkrieg7988

11 ай бұрын

something like the de Havilland Sea Vixen would work

A 152 would be quite large as a destroyers main gun, it has been done historically in a few cases but you'd find it more often on light cruisers

@JosephDawson1986

11 ай бұрын

Only thing Incan find close to a 152 is the 150 inch carried on Kriegsmarine Z1936A Narvick class Destroyers used by the Third Reich early in WWII

@enolastraight4829

11 ай бұрын

@@JosephDawson1986 The Italian-built (ordered by Romania) Vifor-class destroyers were also armed with 152 mm guns

That is one sexy aircraft! I was totally thinking 'Moonbat' as you were building it and I'm glad to see it wasn't lost on you, either. As for the concept of aircraft attacking and sinking ships using a large calibre gun... I seem to remember hearing or reading somewhere about a B-25 (either a G or a H, I can't remember which) sinking a Japanese destroyer with 5 rounds of 75mm. I don't know how much truth there is to that, but I'm sure I heard it somewhere. Oh, and the thing with the Sheriden's recoil - I think the thing was that the gunner had to quickly move his hand away from the breach when the gun was fired, or otherwise run the risk of a broken wrist.

I would 100% call this something like the Manta ray or something

also, the biggest gun mounted on a WW2 plane is a 102mm anti ship cannon mounted in a Italian heavy bomber, without bombs and it had a analog computer and a ballistic gun sight so it could actually get close to hitting something you were aiming at, and it had an auto loader.

@emperorbless120

11 ай бұрын

And you'd be wrong. The Germans mounted a 355.6mm recoilless rifle on a Dornier 217 (though it was never fired in flight and the program was abandoned after only a few ground tests).

@Wigza

11 ай бұрын

@@emperorbless120 uh... Never heard about that before, I guess that the ballistics of a recoilless rifle would have been a nightmare to aim for a plane in flight, it would be more like a big rocket, which is probably why it was cancelled because they could just use a rocket instead

@emperorbless120

11 ай бұрын

@@Wigza en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderger%C3%A4t_SG104_%22M%C3%BCnchhausen%22

@Wigza

11 ай бұрын

@@emperorbless120 uh, called it, well, that it was just replaced by rockets, but I didn't think of the back blast, but they could of easily fixed that, they could of just added a fearing to the tail to deflect the blast or to b be deformed instead of the planes tail taking the shockwave, it may add a lot of drag and weight though it would be an option if you really want to add a big ass recoilless cannon to a plane

@AmurTiger

11 ай бұрын

Definitely less powerful then the 32 pounder they mounted on a Mosquito, similar shell weight but a 32 pounder is a much higher velocity. Albeit the 32 pounder wasn't used in combat as the war ended before the test flights from what I can tell.

Reminds me of the sub hunter version of the Mosquito. 57mm autocannon. Very effective, when the auto part worked. sometimes jammed when too high a G force was pulled.

@rufustrotman4322

11 ай бұрын

The Mosquito FB Mk. XVIII - think it was called (almost officially) the Tsetse (after the biting fly). They were developing an up-gunned version when they ran out of war, armed with a QF-32 pounder (based on the 3.7" (94mm) heavy antiaircraft gun), They flew it and test-fired it without problems.

@rocketcello5354

11 ай бұрын

@rufustrotman4322 yeah, it was called the Tsetse thanks for reminding me

you could make it way smaller if you make the propellant load way smaller, since a lot of the speed is coming from the plane already

This is, and was, pretty common to see planes with 57mm to 75mm during ww2, but afterwards, the U.S had been mounting 105mm M40 Recoilless Rifles on the A-4 Skyhawk. But seeing a 152mm on a plane is just outright terrifying. Keep up the good work Messier!

Funfact: In WW2 they actually mounted 75mm howitzers to naval raiding aircraft like B-25s and B-24s. However, the squadrons operating these planes noticed that for commerce raiding, what they needed was *suppressing fire*. The attack method for these planes was usually a technique called "skip bombing", where you drop a bomb so that it skips across the surface of the water like a rock. In order to do this, you have to fly parallel to the water's surface for a pretty substantial distance, meanwhile every gun on the ship your targeting is firing at you. The 75 was decent enough but most crews could only fire it 3-4 times on an attack run, so a couple of squadrons replaced these cannons with a whole bunch of .50 caliber machine guns.

Heyo, I'm the fella who made both the muzzle brakes mods, thanks for featuring it in the vid! If you want me to spin up a 152mm one for you I'd be down. TBH it is a rather obvious thing I missed

"Where did my tank autoloader go?!" 0:03 me with a suspiciously Tank Autoloader shaped stomach: uuuh idk, someone else must've taken it

I'd love to see something like the Blackburn B.20... a retracting hull flying boat

Messier: Makes a tank cannon plane AC130 Gunship: Am I a joke to you?

What if the Hs 129 and KV-2 had a baby 😂

@JIKwood

11 ай бұрын

Result: this video.

Between the armed smuggling plane and this…. M82 has officially gone insane…. 😂. But in all seriousness, this thing is freaking awesome and I love it! Great work as always!

The P-63 Kingcobra had a 37mm cannon which was the same caliber as the ones they had on the Stuart light tanks, so yes, you can put a tank cannon on an aircraft

@Myomer104

11 ай бұрын

And the -G variant of the B25 Mitchell had a version of the M4 Sherman's 75mm gun.

@Gentleman...Driver

6 ай бұрын

Ju88 and Hs 129 used also a tank gun with 75mm calibre, prooved to be effective against soviet armor. British had the Mosquito outfitted with the 57mm from the Churchill to hunt down submarines and destroyers. The British managed to shoot down Ju 88 with this.

You should do a big wing fighter like the ho 229, maybe you could do a prop punk spin to it?

@Anti-Smart

11 ай бұрын

What do you mean "big wing fighter"? Did you mean to say flying wing, or am I missing something?

@carsonyoder7320

11 ай бұрын

@@Anti-Smart yeah I just forgot the words cus am smart

@thatawkardfeeling9076

2 ай бұрын

like a mini XB-35! (but a fighter)

Wait until we put railguns on planes 💀

To compensate for the recoil I think it would have been advisable to make the gun point a few degrees downward relative to the fuselage centerline in a way that would have it pass through the CG. Lovely design

I love the looks, definitely would be daunting if you were a sailor on a cruiser and saw a flight of these incoming. I imagine if such a gun was mounted there would have to be some type of recoilless system to prevent the aircraft from stalling instantly, or destroying its airframe

actually, something like this was made during ww2 from the us. the XA-38 had a 75mm cannon and i think 2 or 4 mgs. however, the italians during WW1 came out with the P. 108A serie 2 and it had a absolutely massive 102mm cannon. i think that if this probably had maybe 10 to 15 rounds of ammunition the design you made might be able to fly, but to fly well you’d probably have to have like 3-6 rounds of ammo that would be used sparingly (note i’m not a plane nerd so i’m probably wrong about most things) but overall cool plane! 👍 (i’m talking about with the ammo if this were to actually be made irl)

WWII German engineers: alright hear me out, what if we got MORE GUN?

The design is like a mix between Beech Starship, F7U and XP-67. Very cool.

You fire the gun, the boat's hull shatters. Plot twist ,the pilot's spine shatters as well.

The naval colors on that thing look SICK. Great video!

This is one of your most interesting designs yet. I love these odd concept aircrafts

A10; "I can almost stall when firing my gun." Messier; 'Hold my beer."

Hello. One of my all time favorite Flight Combat video games is Crimson Skies. And I've always wondered, can some on the aircraft in that game actual fly? I was wondering if you could recreate some of the aircraft from that game in Fly Out and test to see if they would actually work.

Now we need a Gustav cannon (or, if you want it to be “practical” a Dora) cannon on a plane 😂

This thing looks soooo sick man. Even the camo is really nice and fits perfectly to this masterpiece of plane. Keep up the god like work 💪👍

T-95: where did tank autoloader go? Me with a suspiciously Tank Autoloader shaped stomach: 0:03

5:32 _laugh track plays_ Man I love these videos

He took the ¨gun with wings¨ and ran with it

I think aircraft guns are pitched up or down from the centerline of the plane depending on it's role: up for a fighter, down for ground attack. Might help direct the force of the recoil closer to the CG if you pitch it down a few degrees.

looks like a moonbat shed its tail, grew canards, chomped the tail gunner off a b17, then gulped down a T-72 cartoon style

That pun was a crime against humanity, I loved it.

Lol “i guess thats a little bit of recoil” btw i love love ur vids

The knee slapper dad jokes/puns never get old lol

I was eating when messier made the drag joke. I stopped chewing and my dog stopped coughing… time literally came to a halt.

Messier: can we put 152mm howitiser on plane? messier fon Braun: i had such project... AC-130 Gunship engineer: why are you asking?! didn`t seen mine product?

Fantastic design! It looks like a concept that might have been forward in the late 40's when aviation was sort of in between the prop and jet ages.

Hey messier great video got to see you streaming on the flyout server yesterday

Next time you could make a “orbital bombardment” airplane, so just a howitzer on the underbelly of the plane pointing downward. Love your vidz❤

@roundbrick4890

11 ай бұрын

so a reverse Schraege Musik

@brody7714

11 ай бұрын

Those are a thing actually! They’re called bombs. 😉

There are plenty of ground/surface vessel attack craft with "Tank" Cannons in them... what you are talking about is an Artillery Piece... while they are used on Tank Chasis, they tend not to be tanks but Self Propelled Artillery or Tank Destroyers (which is a weird designation to me because its still just Self Propelled Artillery)...

Like the guns on planes weren’t already big enough.

Always a good day when M82 uploads

And I thought the F4 was a flying brick xD great vid dude!

Incredible, I wanna see part 2 of that flying wing

Finally someone answered my question. For years I have been waiting for this.

AAF camo idea: Clearly, someone's been dipping into the ol' "Arcade game bosses for tanks," idea, and the Army borrowed a couple planes to see if the idea has merit on ground.

Considering the advent of guided artillery munitions, a flight of what amounts to flying M777's is pretty hilarious.

They mounted a giant cannon to a P-108 bomber during ww2. I don't remember what size but they did it.

i like how in the take off the back gunner just gets dragged XD 8:17

Love it - absurd but weirdly plausible

This is really awesome, dude. What is this? Very neat design. I am so, so subscribing.

The 1943 Mosquito FB Mk. XVIII Tsetse had a 57mm 1/4 pound anti tank gun fitted to it. Wikipedia makes it sound like the pilots prefered to use its rockets rather than the gun to take out enemy U-boats. Still a cool idea though. Great video.

imagine being a soldier then seeing a fucking 152mm he ROUND going for your face

I LOVE the design of this thing! It could be a tank destroyer too! Some strike aircraft during WW2 had this exact concept, just a much lower caliber. Notably the German Henschel HS 129 for example

Who let bro cook? Nah but seriously that is some crazy stuff right there, keep it going man

Those propeller blades being basically directly in line with the pilot seat gives me so much anxiety lol

The xa-38 "grizzly" proved this was possible, it had a 75mm, along with the Italian p108a, which had a 102mm, and a few German aircraft that had 75mm guns.

This looks incredibly sick

My idea of a ww2 fighter is a Fuselage of the i-15/i16 (stretched), a engine of the il-2, a tail of the p-36, wings of the p-39, guns and a canopy of the p-51 and the cannons of the spitfire.

Love seeing the tail gunner get dragged across the tarmac

That intro was gold.

I just love how it looks.

What a gorgeous plane ❤️

Messier upload is always a good day

Speaking of the warthog, you should try make a ground attack / close air support aircraft for the next vid

This thing should be nicknamed the Terror-dactyl lol

This is a cool channel. I'd love to see you make the Wyvern or Strike Wyvern from Ace Combat. That would be sick.

The UK did mount a 25 pounder gun in a Mosquito. The recoil virtually stopped the aircraft, but it was very effective anti-ship and anti-sub system. Apparently the navigator was not thrilled with the effort and contortions required to reload!

Ngl, I dig the design, even though the gun caliber is absurd. Anyways, excellent video 🎉🎉

Love it! One more great creation. And I do like those real world planes where they just build a plane around a big gun. The A-10 is of course the most well know... But boy, there where some big gunned WWII aircraft too. Not 152mm howitzer size, what I know off. But proper tank calibre guns. With the lagers being over 100 mm I believe. Even the modern AC-130 gunship has variants with 105 mm howitzer. May all be retired now however.

Germans tried this in WW2 on test bed planes while on the ground. Recoil totally buckled the airframe and they gave up on it.

Bro really went with the dragging me down pun

This is like the anti-naval version of a PBJ-1 or an Hs 129. Just mount the biggest gun you can fit into a plane and throw it at the ground.

This thing looks like a drawing you'd see in a 1930s Popular Mechanics article alongside the Bell Aracuda.

Absolutely beautiful

This feels like something you’d see on a history channel documentary on WW2 German super weapons

I really like that plane. It's elegant, even though its a bit bloated with the ammunition drum. I think what it could be used for is for hunting U-Boats. As this is around 1945ish, submarines are going to be diesel-electric types that spend most of their time on the surface, only submerging when they need to for avoiding detection. What RAF Coastal Command had to hunt U-Boats during WWII was De Havilland Mosquitoes with a 57mm 6pdr gun. They would find the U-Boat, fire an AP shell through the hull so they can't submerge, and then another aircraft could finish it off with rockets. A 6 inch CPCBC shell with a decent HE filler could probably sink a U-Boat in one hit.

Rock on dude, this is a hot meme.

The Sheridan had the habit of breaking the commander's ribs which was then later rectified with a ceramic insert for the coupola. I assume it only happened when the commander was turned out.

i think you should do some more absurd things like this or like the spinner. that's very fun