Can You Have TOO Many CPU Cores?

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Are there situations where having lots of processor cores can actually hurt performance?
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  • @darkuit585
    @darkuit5854 жыл бұрын

    The human eye can only see 32 cores

  • @Michealxlr

    @Michealxlr

    4 жыл бұрын

    2020 has never seen such bullshit

  • @budgetbajur

    @budgetbajur

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's only for a trained eye, regular people can see only 4 cores :(

  • @gausts

    @gausts

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@budgetbajur Old xeons are the only CPUs with good value.

  • @kaksidaksi3455

    @kaksidaksi3455

    4 жыл бұрын

    playstationplayers: not really human eye can see only 1 core

  • @budgetbajur

    @budgetbajur

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's why I'd recommend buying a 3970X, disabling SMT and 31 cores to get the best performance

  • @ffKingcreole
    @ffKingcreole4 жыл бұрын

    I'm a simple blender user, i see more cores, i like

  • @SToNeOwNz

    @SToNeOwNz

    4 жыл бұрын

    My food processor does all the blending I need with only a single core.

  • @openlink9958

    @openlink9958

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SToNeOwNz underrated

  • @mariocdi8205

    @mariocdi8205

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@openlink9958 its been 20 minutes how is it underrated

  • @openlink9958

    @openlink9958

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mariocdi8205 it only has 3 likes even though is funny af

  • @mr_0n10n5

    @mr_0n10n5

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh my g...🤣🤣

  • @TheCrusaderBin
    @TheCrusaderBin4 жыл бұрын

    So, where can we buy such a cool looking hoodie? You never told us.

  • @Miles300s

    @Miles300s

    4 жыл бұрын

    _Oh God, _*_I'm crippled with indecision!_*

  • @kabusthepotato9572

    @kabusthepotato9572

    4 жыл бұрын

    *inhales* LTTSTORE.COM!!!

  • @mdd1963

    @mdd1963

    4 жыл бұрын

    there is no super-gay LTT logo on it.....! :)

  • @zacharywilliams6492

    @zacharywilliams6492

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mdd1963 just when you thought 12 year olds were over using "gay" as an adjective for things they don't like...

  • @mdd1963

    @mdd1963

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zacharywilliams6492 Maybe it was used as a compliment? Do you always assume 'gay' to be a derogatory term, perhaps? :)

  • @meeeeeeauuuuuuuu
    @meeeeeeauuuuuuuu4 жыл бұрын

    considering my tinder performance i have a question, can 0 cores get the job done?

  • @Mishkafofer

    @Mishkafofer

    4 жыл бұрын

    take your right hand, make a zero with two fingers and enjoy the ride.

  • @TheKb117

    @TheKb117

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mishkafofer exactly the comment/reply I was looking for... :D

  • @lilgazebo7952
    @lilgazebo79524 жыл бұрын

    Correction, you *NEVER* have enough cores This post was made by the AMD gang

  • @filadelfozuniga3411

    @filadelfozuniga3411

    4 жыл бұрын

    *This is an intel sponsored video

  • @tommihommi1

    @tommihommi1

    4 жыл бұрын

    This post is supported by the Linux gang

  • @Lucian_Andries

    @Lucian_Andries

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @murphy7801

    @murphy7801

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tommihommi1 oh man linuxs ability use multicore is so good

  • @gausts

    @gausts

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@murphy7801 Nobody uses linux.

  • @phatec
    @phatec4 жыл бұрын

    Intel: Yes, too many cores is bad because we can’t keep up. AMD: More DOTS! I mean more CORES!

  • @moomoomoomuu

    @moomoomoomuu

    4 жыл бұрын

    @BMWMED1 , My brain hurts from reading that.

  • @Shankovich

    @Shankovich

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@moomoomoomuu It's ok, he's still busy trying to find a reason for paying more for intel to have less.

  • @Shankovich

    @Shankovich

    4 жыл бұрын

    @BMWMED1 whatever keyboard warrior go back to your Doritos

  • @propellhatt

    @propellhatt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dyatlov: I NEED WATER IN MY CORE!

  • @oslier3633

    @oslier3633

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shankovich well, you started crying first

  • @thejaydotexe
    @thejaydotexe4 жыл бұрын

    If RAM access is an issue you can just download more.

  • @drabberfrog

    @drabberfrog

    4 жыл бұрын

    But you can't download Ram, it's a physical component not software

  • @thejaydotexe

    @thejaydotexe

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@drabberfrog ez pz

  • @drabberfrog

    @drabberfrog

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Hohst Whoosh I was just joking about that. I know about the download Ram meme I don't live under a rock

  • @MartinWasTaken

    @MartinWasTaken

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@drabberfrog So explaining how it really works is a counter joke? You didn't get the joke lmao, stop trying.

  • @drabberfrog

    @drabberfrog

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MartinWasTakensays the person that had to explain to me why I shouldn't explain the joke I did

  • @asdfdfggfd
    @asdfdfggfd4 жыл бұрын

    Intel in 2019: "4 cores ought to be enough for everyone"

  • @guy_5108

    @guy_5108

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tbh for most people it is.

  • @dotalegendery3998

    @dotalegendery3998

    4 жыл бұрын

    When did they say that?

  • @awrsish

    @awrsish

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dotalegendery3998 its implied

  • @mikeythanos

    @mikeythanos

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@guy_5108 I would say with the way games are going. 6 cores is plenty enough for a while

  • @silverpill120

    @silverpill120

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like to think that 6 threads are good enough for just gaming, no compromises.

  • @chandlerreynolds40
    @chandlerreynolds404 жыл бұрын

    That CPU install at 3:15 is brutal

  • @BusAlexey

    @BusAlexey

    4 жыл бұрын

    that's how i got a bent pin lol

  • @troglodev2533

    @troglodev2533

    4 жыл бұрын

    He just... jammed it in there. 😳

  • @carringbushpet

    @carringbushpet

    4 жыл бұрын

    prob cause it's just a pleb Ryzen 5 and LMG just got in their haul of Cascade Lake X and 3rd Gen Threadrippers. A 3600 is barely a paperweight to Lord Linus

  • @troglodev2533

    @troglodev2533

    4 жыл бұрын

    carringbushpet what’s wrong with Ryzen 5s?

  • @BusAlexey

    @BusAlexey

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@carringbushpet those high-end cpu's are not gifts, they are review samples. LTT can't sell them, so they have $0 value to LTT outside of reviews and build showcases

  • @bencoomer2000
    @bencoomer20004 жыл бұрын

    "Can you have too many CPU cores?" No; Dr. Su.

  • @TiagoMorbusSa
    @TiagoMorbusSa4 жыл бұрын

    More dates on tinder is better? I wouldn't know.

  • @ashnton

    @ashnton

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can sense that this will get loads of likes

  • @unocualqu1era

    @unocualqu1era

    4 жыл бұрын

    Of course it's better, just like STD's from Tinder Dates. Gotta catch 'em all!

  • @sabcoak846

    @sabcoak846

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oof

  • @markg6160

    @markg6160

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because you're stuck in a loveless dreadful marriage, like me?

  • @gausts

    @gausts

    4 жыл бұрын

    This isn't funny at all. Now I know 90% of the LTT fanbase are reddit-obsessed 12yr olds.

  • @coryandrum
    @coryandrum4 жыл бұрын

    When are they going to add the link in the corner..... he always points at it but the person the uploads them never adds it.

  • @Miles300s

    @Miles300s

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I noticed that. Annoying

  • @carringbushpet

    @carringbushpet

    4 жыл бұрын

    I came down here to look for this comment

  • @adamkerkemeyer

    @adamkerkemeyer

    4 жыл бұрын

    carringbushpet same

  • @coryandrum

    @coryandrum

    4 жыл бұрын

    They managed to do it fine in the new "$900 Ryzen Gaming Build Guide" at 1:20; is Denis doing the Techquickie?

  • @QneNiqht

    @QneNiqht

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4KAysWHlrjLfqg.html here you go

  • @MazeFrame
    @MazeFrame4 жыл бұрын

    When you have too many cores, you are just lacking tasks.

  • @gameralexx475

    @gameralexx475

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me with 1 mega core (1024 cores) being like ah yes not enough

  • @asynchronousongs

    @asynchronousongs

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gameralexx475 a mega core would have a million cores, not a thousand

  • @morosis82

    @morosis82

    3 жыл бұрын

    So I guess that nixes me for that cool 1024 thread 2U server from Dell.

  • @thetshadow999animates9

    @thetshadow999animates9

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gameralexx475 you mean kilocore?

  • @jmshrv
    @jmshrv4 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry, 3950x owners. I'll happily trade you a superior Celeron processor for free.

  • @franciscraig8164

    @franciscraig8164

    4 жыл бұрын

    Intel Marketing slide leaked, 2019.

  • @mehmeh1999

    @mehmeh1999

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait do you also trade for a xeon phi 7210?

  • @tylerdurden3722

    @tylerdurden3722

    4 жыл бұрын

    If it has twice the single thread performance than a 3950x and 4 to 6 cores,, then I'll make that trade without blinking.

  • @tepkisiz
    @tepkisiz4 жыл бұрын

    Linus: Can you have too many cores? AMD : Hold my Threadripper 3990x ................................................................... AMD: How much cache do we need to make 8 chiplets 64 cores feasible? AMD engineers: YES

  • @TheVillainOfTheYear

    @TheVillainOfTheYear

    4 жыл бұрын

    MOAR MEMES!

  • @samuraivader3814
    @samuraivader38144 жыл бұрын

    The ears can’t hear past 20 cores so why bother.

  • @mp6412

    @mp6412

    4 жыл бұрын

    SamuraiVader underrated comment

  • @JoeStuffz

    @JoeStuffz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of someone bragging about the Cell processor. "Oh yeah. The SPEs can mix thousands of audio streams, but the human ear can only hear (some number far below that), so it doesn't really matter"... Also, some of the PS3's CPU problems are actually explained in this video well.

  • @MrMassari1231
    @MrMassari12314 жыл бұрын

    64 cores exist Me: running dual cord in my laptop

  • @CheapBastard1988

    @CheapBastard1988

    4 жыл бұрын

    My laptop only needs one cord😜. Seriously it's a laptop so it will always be a compromise between performance and battery life. Slightly more powerful than you need it to be and the best battery life you can get with that performance. If a dual core Pentium CPU with iGPU is enough then you get awesome battery life in return.

  • @towsif_8_128

    @towsif_8_128

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cord!?!? You mean backbone, right?😆

  • @PanhaNamikaze

    @PanhaNamikaze

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cord?

  • @JoeStuffz

    @JoeStuffz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Surprisingly enough, dual power brick laptops do indeed exist.

  • @Masterrunescapeer

    @Masterrunescapeer

    4 жыл бұрын

    My 6c/12t 9750H says hi from a laptop that has a RTX 2060 while having ~5 hours battery life in power saving, 3 hours when streaming youtube at max brightness or about one and a half hours gaming (though I don't advise doing this on battery, not good for the battery). That said, my old i7 4720HQ never managed past about 3 hours on battery saver, 45 minutes gaming, with a GTX960M. Laptops have come a long way, it's more of a case of price/performance/weight, and I'm fine with my 1.8kg 15.5" laptop.

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer7274 жыл бұрын

    2:00 Hello my fello people from 2004.

  • @coldfusionstormgaming1808

    @coldfusionstormgaming1808

    4 жыл бұрын

    _Agressive chair dancing_

  • @connectcarl
    @connectcarl4 жыл бұрын

    "High CPU core counts give you no tactical advantage whatsoever." - Big Boss, 1964

  • @rbnhd1976

    @rbnhd1976

    4 жыл бұрын

    Look like you gotta busted headlight boy (crash)

  • @leorickg
    @leorickg4 жыл бұрын

    Joke of the day: this video is sponsored by Intel's revival of the 22nm dual core Pentium G processor. Haha

  • @combatjm89
    @combatjm894 жыл бұрын

    Was that James or Riley singing the NUMA jingle?

  • @rohithkumarsp

    @rohithkumarsp

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @bojoxxx

    @bojoxxx

    4 жыл бұрын

    you mean O-Zone - Dragostea Din Tei? Very much sounded like it :D

  • @juanbrits3002
    @juanbrits30024 жыл бұрын

    Intel kept progression slow by keeping to 4 cores and rehashing it for years, imagine the progression we would've had if Intel never decided to screw the consumer for max profits.

  • @sam.mankar
    @sam.mankar3 жыл бұрын

    I really love how Linus explains complicated things in an easy way.

  • @RavingMad
    @RavingMad4 жыл бұрын

    I find your videos entertaining and educative. Even your ads are so well presented, unless it's a repeat ad for me for the 3rd time, I love watching them.

  • @nerotenebre
    @nerotenebre4 жыл бұрын

    Jokes on you, I've just downloaded 18 cores for my i3 2120

  • @MahdiShibly

    @MahdiShibly

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jokes on you, downloading 64 cores

  • @s1ndrome117

    @s1ndrome117

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MahdiShibly jokes on you, i'm downloading Nasa computer

  • @CpCubeR

    @CpCubeR

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was it a zip map? Because there is a chance there is a gpu folder in it, go to 2080ti and install it

  • @MahdiShibly

    @MahdiShibly

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@s1ndrome117 with great power comes great responsibility. Start seeding the cores

  • @PigeonDetective

    @PigeonDetective

    4 жыл бұрын

    I sure hope that your getting those cores directly from Intel. You wouldn't want to be caught pirating cores. I learned that lesson when I tried to download RAM for free.

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf5124 жыл бұрын

    Gonna upgrade to ryzen this spring, wish me luck!

  • @herbetrono4373

    @herbetrono4373

    4 жыл бұрын

    you dont need luck mate! i got a 2700x and its awesome-my 3950x just arrived,YIP YIP YIPPPPEEEEEEEE!!

  • @iconict2365

    @iconict2365

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ryzen isnt bad at all, it's faster than intel

  • @mikeramos91

    @mikeramos91

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes how’d that upgrade go?

  • @randomgeocacher
    @randomgeocacher4 жыл бұрын

    Explanation of NUMA UMA was really great. Simple and clear!

  • @ZuBeRCraZyBassY
    @ZuBeRCraZyBassY4 жыл бұрын

    Linus 2019: I create problems where they don't exist.

  • @Atan-ik5lg
    @Atan-ik5lg4 жыл бұрын

    "Can you have TOO Many CPU Cores?" - Stares at his 4-user multi-workstation - Me: I'll get back to you on that one, yea?

  • @teriinekoyama1369

    @teriinekoyama1369

    4 жыл бұрын

    In your case, it's the exception around there. In fact, the end of the video pertains to this use case.

  • @tylerdurden3722

    @tylerdurden3722

    4 жыл бұрын

    You have to admit, 9000 cores would be a bit redundant 😅

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto4 жыл бұрын

    This is how I feel about CPU cores as well. If software isn’t written to utilize all the cores available then we’ll see some delays. Good video thank you.

  • @ARandomInternetUser08
    @ARandomInternetUser0811 ай бұрын

    I still have a single core 3GHz Pentium 4 desktop that I got 9 years ago and it's still running great. It is surprisingly responsive for such an old computer.

  • @jonathanpeters9271
    @jonathanpeters92714 жыл бұрын

    did I hear the metal gear solid alert sound effect in there? great work, Linus and crew; love your videos

  • @simply_cake
    @simply_cake4 жыл бұрын

    64 core cpu: exists Firemen: *heavy sweating*

  • @rezaman2080
    @rezaman20804 жыл бұрын

    2:03 Did I just hallucinate that for a sec? 😂😂😂 "Mayahi"

  • @livingcorpse5664
    @livingcorpse56644 жыл бұрын

    2:03 This little dance alone makes the entire video worth watching.

  • @wlt16
    @wlt164 жыл бұрын

    sounds like he got his Intel Check.

  • @tylerdurden3722

    @tylerdurden3722

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah...it sounds like he's looking out for consumers. Protecting them from evil marketing that's trying to decieve people into buying more cores than they will ever use.

  • @SamA-cy8eu
    @SamA-cy8eu4 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Linus... Linus send me your 3950X!!!

  • @nicholasjoseph9062

    @nicholasjoseph9062

    4 жыл бұрын

    Give this guy an upvote so that Linus will send it.

  • @pixels_per_inch

    @pixels_per_inch

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Linus regret getting a 3900x for his personal computer.

  • @Dibowac
    @Dibowac4 жыл бұрын

    Can you have too many CPU Cores?. *_AMD wants to know your location._* [10-12-2019_21_26.]

  • @danielsjohnson
    @danielsjohnson4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for including that Numa Numa joke even if it was only for a moment.

  • @chozora
    @chozora4 жыл бұрын

    Perfect time for this video, I'm trying to decide between a quad-core and an 8-core Ryzen CPU. Thinking about going with the 8-core.

  • @oven88
    @oven884 жыл бұрын

    2:03 for the tasteful

  • @Chriva
    @Chriva4 жыл бұрын

    For games? -Yeah. For heavy tasks: We're not there yet :P

  • @Mvp-AngelOfGod

    @Mvp-AngelOfGod

    4 жыл бұрын

    It awesome a lot of newer games are supporting more cores

  • @nonamehere1626

    @nonamehere1626

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think we'll get there ever, even those 8000+ core clusters aren't bottlenecked in any way with higher core count.

  • @Chriva

    @Chriva

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mvp-AngelOfGod Indeed. Tho there's a limit to how much you can spread the load for some parts of the game. Not everything can be spread over several threads unfortunately

  • @budgetbajur

    @budgetbajur

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe they support it but isn't as efficient as fewer cores with high frequency

  • @zamundaaa776

    @zamundaaa776

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@budgetbajur it's exactly the other way around. It's a lot *more* efficient than fewer higher clocked cores.

  • @johnmadsen37
    @johnmadsen374 жыл бұрын

    I have an older t5500 2 x 6 cpu, 74gb ram. On numa, when starting a Hyper-v guest, it takes more time to start up a larger dedicated memory guest. This is because in the background, it is actually reorganizing memory pages to shuffle them to the closest cpu. After it does that and ram pages are moves, stopping and starting takes Nirmal time. Very interesting. This doesn’t really happen much on newer systems, especially with higher bus speeds , latency is reduced. The lesson is, it is what it is. ;)

  • @wainainandungu6278
    @wainainandungu62784 жыл бұрын

    i love linus videos they are so random sometimes that you get addicted to the channel easily

  • @SATOTEHDOOD
    @SATOTEHDOOD4 жыл бұрын

    Leader: So how many cores do you want? Tech guys: YES.

  • @TP-rs5zl
    @TP-rs5zl4 жыл бұрын

    0:00 That's more money then I've ever had saved up in my entire 20 year life.

  • @SiisKolkytEuroo

    @SiisKolkytEuroo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it means you're bad with money

  • @MartinWasTaken

    @MartinWasTaken

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SiisKolkytEuroo Or maybe he doesn't live in a huge country. I live in a small country and currently make 600 euros a month, a good wage in our country is about 1500 a month, if you can score this, you are doing well. Good IT technicians can score over 2k a month, but that's a massive rarity here. A top job(below managing and non-politicians) nets you around 3k a month which is a low-end pay in the US.

  • @gardian06_85

    @gardian06_85

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MartinWasTaken this is an example of why the "single market" doesn't work, and different countries should use different currencies if the value of that currency would not match the euro. though this does depend on the state in the US (yes I know that state means something different to the rest of the world, but nation state, made of nation states) US federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr (6.51 euro) assuming 160 hr month is only 1,042 euro a month. though a state like California, or Washington that has around $12/hr (10.77 euro) is 1724 euro a month. and there is a movement to standardize minium wage to $15/hr (would be 2155 euro a month).even with all this being said an ok wage is only about $2667 a month (2394 euro) so your perception of american minimums/low-end a bit out of balance, your country might not be the greatest, but wages should also be put into perspective with cost of living, I have a feeling that the 600 euro a month doesn't make you homeless, and that 2k a month is probably only a modest house.

  • @writerpatrick
    @writerpatrick4 жыл бұрын

    It's surprising that most programs don't make use of multiple cores. But it can be useful to assign cores so that certain programs like video processing don't tie up the computer.

  • @thegeneralist7527
    @thegeneralist75274 жыл бұрын

    This is why benchmark comparisons are the gold standard.

  • @dillbourne
    @dillbourne4 жыл бұрын

    I am so glad that Numa Numa parody only lasted 3 seconds

  • @ziomalisty

    @ziomalisty

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maya Hee, Maya Hoo, Maya Ha, Maya Ha ha!

  • @FuncleChuck
    @FuncleChuck4 жыл бұрын

    For the past two weeks I’ve had 128 cores in my phone, and here’s my review.

  • @adisar2002

    @adisar2002

    4 жыл бұрын

    this is linus mate, not marques

  • @thisis5123
    @thisis51234 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t read the other comments, but I think more videos going more into depth with numa and uma effects of system performance. Both theory and maybe just a few examples. A computer work station is becoming an increasing part of my life productivity now and using these machines for work is requiring me to know more about configuring and building them for my specific applications.

  • @jacobw703
    @jacobw7034 жыл бұрын

    Small addition, but I think worth noting (can't recall if Linus has addressed this in the past or not). Frequency in and of itself only has a linear affect on the power needed by a cpu. If the only thing that changes about the cpu is the frequency, the power will go up, but not as much as you might think. It's the fact that higher frequencies generally require higher voltages in order to remain stable, and changes in voltage have a quadratic effect on the power consumed and outputted as heat.

  • @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
    @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct4 жыл бұрын

    0:32 Linus just spotted Solid Snake ❗️

  • @aaronrajadurai1167
    @aaronrajadurai11674 жыл бұрын

    Mkbhd : i have computer with 28 cores Literally minutes later Linus: you have so many cores👀

  • @CroissantMoon

    @CroissantMoon

    4 жыл бұрын

    stop using this comment format

  • @kyapox

    @kyapox

    4 жыл бұрын

    you did it wrong. and stop

  • @gausts

    @gausts

    4 жыл бұрын

    Linus built a 56 core system.

  • @aaronrajadurai1167

    @aaronrajadurai1167

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gausts yes. So....?

  • @aaronrajadurai1167

    @aaronrajadurai1167

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kyapox whats wrong?

  • @lazycreator7794
    @lazycreator77944 жыл бұрын

    That 1:41 dead shot was well synced with the script. 😂👌👌

  • @nextlifeonearth
    @nextlifeonearth4 жыл бұрын

    An AMD FX module is like 2 contractor workers that share their second most used tool. They work very well for integer logic, but gotta wait for the other to finish with the floating point operation.

  • @johnwill4560
    @johnwill45604 жыл бұрын

    What about disabling cores when you use your CPU for gaming

  • @vaikkajoku

    @vaikkajoku

    4 жыл бұрын

    pointless

  • @spork8655

    @spork8655

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not always pointless. You can often hit higher clock speeds when some cores are disabled, though it's not worth it for everyone.

  • @BigDaddyAddyMS

    @BigDaddyAddyMS

    4 жыл бұрын

    Try playing Far Cry 3 on 8 cores vs disabling 4 cores. 4>8 in old ass games.

  • @auturgicflosculator2183

    @auturgicflosculator2183

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had an FX-6300 that OCed to 6.1 GHz with 4 cores disabled. Made it about 85% as fast as the 4790k@4.6 GHz I upgraded to later, but unable to run multi-threaded games well due to only having 2 cores. The 4790k ran games slightly better with HT off, but disabling cores offered no extra OC potential. The 4790k died in a lightning strike, and was replaced with an R5 2600. I can get a slightly higher stable OC with 3 cores disabled, 4.25 GHz, but the stable 4.125 GHz I get with all 6 cores is fine. There's still a little voltage headroom, but I'd rather not push it over the present 1.4V for long term use.

  • @SToNeOwNz

    @SToNeOwNz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@auturgicflosculator2183 Sounds like the fabled CPU lottery. Also lighting didn't give you super OC powers?

  • @JR-mk6ow
    @JR-mk6ow4 жыл бұрын

    CPUs with hundreds of cores and programmers still not using multi-threading.

  • @kalijasin

    @kalijasin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @J R, because most apps already run in real time and are Not overly cpu intensive. #Bloatware

  • @pixels_per_inch

    @pixels_per_inch

    4 жыл бұрын

    The main reason is that most software can only process the next task only if the previous one is already done (if this then that algorithm) Like in games, you can't predict if the player will press W, A, S or D unless the player have already done so. However, in video editing, it already has all the frames and all the effects on the table, the first core can process the first frame and the second core can process the second frame and so on (where more cores = more frames being rendered simultaneously) since it already know the steps needed to render the video.

  • @weegee_hates_the_blind
    @weegee_hates_the_blind3 жыл бұрын

    Does Linus just have a video for every possible question a PC gamer could ask?

  • @noway9081
    @noway90814 жыл бұрын

    Have you heard of the Adepteva multicore processor from eight years ago? It was a kickstarter campaign to create a crazy multicore chip with 16 to 32 cores that promised a "supercomputer for everyone". Here is the wikipedia article en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adapteva I would love for you to get a hold of one of these oddities and test it out.

  • @Magmava
    @Magmava4 жыл бұрын

    The human eye can only see 4 cores

  • @Collegia_Titanica

    @Collegia_Titanica

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually, 32, can't you read ^ ?

  • @auturgicflosculator2183

    @auturgicflosculator2183

    4 жыл бұрын

    THERE! ARE! FOUR CORES!

  • @BuggsyMogues
    @BuggsyMogues4 жыл бұрын

    Calling Abode software "highly threaded"

  • @Twinrehz

    @Twinrehz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did you intentionally write "Abode", or was that autocorrect at work?

  • @Twinrehz

    @Twinrehz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @TheMadTitanSkid Well in all seriousness, an abode can be made from adobe (it's a type of mud brick). 😁

  • @CP1871
    @CP18714 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty happy with 6 cores (i7-8700k) at the moment, but I mostly do light (nontime sensitive) video/photo editing and gaming.

  • @Mike504
    @Mike5044 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the Numa Numa dance reference.

  • @theunconventionaldeal3879
    @theunconventionaldeal38794 жыл бұрын

    I compile therefore I multicore! 128 cores and 256 threads please. 👍

  • @TheHighborn
    @TheHighborn4 жыл бұрын

    While video is accurate... This video is sponsored by intel. This is painfully last gen

  • @scottstevens8756
    @scottstevens87564 жыл бұрын

    There are also software limitations. Assuming calculations can be made totally independently then adding parallelism helps. If you have either contention or cohesion (co-ordinating threads, intermediate results of calculations etc) then there is an inflection point where more parallelism will impact performance (regardless of any other factors) cran.r-project.org/web/packages/usl/vignettes/usl.pdf

  • @Zeikaii
    @Zeikaii4 жыл бұрын

    I would love a video on why we don't have like a dual core cpu or a quad core with insanely high clock speeds. The trend is more cores at the 3-5ghz range, why don't we have dedicated gaming cpus in the 6-9ghz range?

  • @Akuuumi
    @Akuuumi4 жыл бұрын

    short answer: mabye

  • @Miles300s

    @Miles300s

    4 жыл бұрын

    Akumi: _short answer: mabye_ *maybe

  • @towsif_8_128

    @towsif_8_128

    4 жыл бұрын

    *Long answer:* Well yes but actually no. I mean, yes still no. Still yes but nope. Not but yes but no. Okay then, its yes but still is not. Ah, nope actually but not yes. Yeah well, its not. Its not for real but not yes. Its spam but no. Well okay but no. Okay but a bit nope. No well but no. Actually its a no. Never, still for consoling, okay. Nope, okay then. Well, I disagree; just no.

  • @Miles300s

    @Miles300s

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@towsif_8_128 Uh..... *_Nein._*

  • @BilguunsparKO
    @BilguunsparKO4 жыл бұрын

    whenever new ryzen releases everyone on the internet becomes streamers and content creators

  • @yancgc5098

    @yancgc5098

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know right?

  • @remytv

    @remytv

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm a gamer and heavy Photoshop / illustrator user and having tons of cores is useless to me lol

  • @Code-n-Flame

    @Code-n-Flame

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep. And we know damn well most of them just game and watch porn on them.

  • @briansk869
    @briansk8694 жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on on 2019 CPUs FPS/Dollar

  • @System64MC
    @System64MC4 жыл бұрын

    3:44 I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I bought a FX 8350... It's not like performance is abysmal, but it's very slow in tests such as Cinebench.

  • @bonemealmc
    @bonemealmc4 жыл бұрын

    The human body can only process 1 core

  • @O6i
    @O6i4 жыл бұрын

    8 cores is perfect to me! Thank you AMD!

  • @OAcessoPublico

    @OAcessoPublico

    4 жыл бұрын

    8 core is fantastic. My Ryzen 2700x doesn't even flinch on everyday use

  • @FalconX88
    @FalconX884 жыл бұрын

    I like it because I do some science stuff even on my personal PC. What I hope is that game developers will join in and come up with engines that scale well, now that even 16 cores and 32 threads is something that's "mainstream"

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k4 жыл бұрын

    I changed my 8086K to 6 cores a while back and it does perform better for me. I mostly do single-threaded stuff.

  • @SnehPatel96
    @SnehPatel964 жыл бұрын

    Intel: Linus please make a video so people stop buying high core AMD AMD: we run more cores, FASTER

  • @gelzgrant13
    @gelzgrant134 жыл бұрын

    I only have 4 cores cpu. Where can i download more cores

  • @Behold6The6Darkness6

    @Behold6The6Darkness6

    4 жыл бұрын

    www.amd.com/en/support

  • @haloclips5387
    @haloclips53874 жыл бұрын

    Can u please make a video about distributed computing?

  • @junaidqadirb
    @junaidqadirb4 жыл бұрын

    Woa that was some teleprompter full of technical mumbo jumbo you just slapped on our face.

  • @qwerty6789x
    @qwerty6789x4 жыл бұрын

    Looks like Intel wrote.the script and sponsored too🤣

  • @WeldonSirloin
    @WeldonSirloin4 жыл бұрын

    The comment section can only communicate with one meme.

  • @TheMartinScott
    @TheMartinScott4 жыл бұрын

    Also, the OS's overhead and ability to manage processes/threads can hurt performance when juggling more CPUs and Cores. (Especially older kernel models that saturated the first couple of cores to manage the threads and locks to other cores.) In the mid 00s, more than 8 Cores/CPU was hard for Linux, as Linux's Linus famously discussed at the time, as there were not plans for the general version of the kernel to perform well with more cores. (Which has since changed significantly, but was an interesting blip in the history of the Linux kernel.) With NT (Windows) version 7 received a huge update to the kernel to eliminate most of the overhead when working with 64 or more CPUs/Cores. Windows 8 & 10 received another large set of scheduling optimizations and capabilities for multi core performance. For example, additional information is considered for each core and what threads to use, thus being able to schedule cores based on location, stability, and temperature. This is the reason the XBox One originally had more stable frame rates than the PS4, as the kernel was able to thermal balance threads on the SoC - which was unique to Windows NT at the time. There are still a few scheduling advantages that are still unique to Windows 10 (NT) - with GPU preemptive scheduling, and processor agnostic scheduling being the two most known. The second one meaning Windows can send threads through any cores/CPUs, GPUs and co-processors, even if the code wasn't intended for that processor or type of processor.

  • @danwemet
    @danwemet4 жыл бұрын

    that numa numa reference was perfect

  • @neilbeaumont2820
    @neilbeaumont28204 жыл бұрын

    this public service bulletin was brought to you by the kind folks at Intel

  • @yetidynamics
    @yetidynamics4 жыл бұрын

    video should have been "Can you have TOO many CPU cores" "No" done

  • @tellthemborissentyou
    @tellthemborissentyou4 жыл бұрын

    I use cpubenchmark.net for their single thread cpu performance when I do a new build. I use a cad programme that doesn't make use of multi threads so choosing the fastest single thread speed makes a real improvement and saves money.

  • @gunjanpatel8530
    @gunjanpatel85304 жыл бұрын

    I'm playing the Witcher 3 right now and when he said uma, i was like OOO UMAA!! Missed opportunity linus.

  • @a7818k
    @a7818k4 жыл бұрын

    sponsored by Intel Core 2 Duo . .

  • @xidentity872
    @xidentity8724 жыл бұрын

    Here I thought finally someone will talk about Amdahl's Law...nope guess not

  • @RekzysTheTitan

    @RekzysTheTitan

    4 жыл бұрын

    atd godjjj what’s that? Tell me everything!

  • @Ravengeno

    @Ravengeno

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RekzysTheTitan It's effectively a limit on how much you can speed up a program no matter how many cores youve got. Most, if not all, problems are only so parallell and the time it takes to run is limited to at least the time it takes to execute the non parallell part.

  • @XavierXonora
    @XavierXonora4 жыл бұрын

    Just to be clear, AMD's new EPYC Rome CPU's are addressed as a single numa node in the default configuration, with performance gains of around 10% possible when splitting it to 4. That's quite a bit different to the previous generation

  • @jayden8988
    @jayden8988 Жыл бұрын

    My reason for needing more core’s is for virtualization software like hypervisors. So that my virtual machines can have the best performance for separate tasks.

  • @P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV
    @P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV4 жыл бұрын

    This video completely failed to mention Amdahl's law. There's a hard mathematical limit to how many cores you can make use of. It's not just a current technological limit. It's a limit that cannot be overcome for all time. If you're running a single application, having the inevitably sequential part of the computation be as low as just 1/32nd or 1/64th, is borderline impossible. Of course servers that are hit with loads from multiple users that run independently of each other can do with even more cores, but a personal computer with more than 64 cores will maybe never make sense.

  • @stonium69

    @stonium69

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is true but somewhat misleading in the sense that there’s no actual limits on how much of a program is sequential. Even things that seem like they must happen in order, like calculating the digits of pi, can be easily parallelized indefinitely.

  • @shannonwoodcock1035
    @shannonwoodcock10354 жыл бұрын

    Did Intel come up to Linus in a black van and smack him around in response to his rant last week?

  • @mcst6969
    @mcst69694 жыл бұрын

    Please explain: *NVMe Host Memory Buffer* . Some "budget" m.2 ssd uses (the CPU's) HMB instead of it's own DRAM(if I'm understating it correctly). How does it work? And how much difference it makes with the ssd's (usually) SLC buffer? Thanks in advance.

  • @Kchandrashekaran
    @Kchandrashekaran4 жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on Intel different "lake" series cpu, it will help viewers decide on which chipset to buy for their laptops.

  • @anug14
    @anug144 жыл бұрын

    Linus were u in Amsterdam recently?

  • @weetjewatikwil1

    @weetjewatikwil1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yez with me

  • @Vicvines
    @Vicvines4 жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute! Hold on a second! Don't move! You're saying the moral of the story here is to buy for your specific needs? What?! So I guess I didn't need an EPYC to play Shadow of the Tomb Raider after all. Well WTF?!

  • @NutellaRLZ
    @NutellaRLZ4 жыл бұрын

    2:04 and I thought everyone had forgotten about that 🤣

  • @NeilRoy
    @NeilRoy4 жыл бұрын

    Before I built a new system this year I done some research on the frame rates between single core and multicore when gaming and many games don't even support multicores for gaming and those that do, there was very little difference. I am a casual gamer and I am happy with a moderate frame rate, enough to keep things smooth. I mainly wanted something to improve my Blender renders and that will use all the cores you have along with the threads so I ended up going with a comfortable, and affordable Ryzen 5-2600 which has 6 cores / 12 threads. It definitely pays to research this stuff online here and and in gaming benchmarks etc. I done a ton of research for my system over several months and what I ended up with is very nice and I kept the costs way down.

  • @Diviance

    @Diviance

    4 жыл бұрын

    On the flipside, it is quite possible that with the next generation of consoles using Ryzen-style CPU's, games might begin to take greater advantage of more CPU cores more regularly. They will probably have to if they want to ensure consistent performance.

  • @NeilRoy

    @NeilRoy

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Diviance Not nessecarily. CPUs in modern games are not relied upon as heavily as they used to be in the past. I did some 3D programming myself and these days the GPU (video card) does most of the heavy work. 3D programming changed so much in the past couple decades, I had to relearn modern OpenGL as now you load in shader programs, which are programs that are sent to the video card, it then compiles them on the fly for use with the video card. You then send your 3D data to the video card to be processed and displayed. A lot of math is done on the GPU now and video processing like what you watch on KZread. This isn't going to change anytime soon. If you want to improve your game performance, you could probably keep your current CPU and buy a better GPU and you will see a huge jump. In fact, I actually did this! I had a ten year old system. An old AMD triple core CPU, no hyperthreading of any sort and 12G of RAM. I had an old video card, a GTX650 which was newer than 10 years. I was in the process of building a new system (which i am on now) and I bought a GTX1050ti and started to use it in my old computer with the 10 year old CPU right away and immediately was able to run games that I had a hard time with at very high settings. My CPU is now an AMD Ryzen 5-2600 with 6 cores/ 12 threads. And it helps due to the much higher clock speed (3.8GHz overclocked slightly). My main reason for getting it was to use the 12 threads in 3D rendering with Blender which will use it. And the CPU's speed was nice for gaming for a good cost. If you want to improve your gaming, don't look for more cores but look for a CPU with a higher clock speed. Because games don't use multicores as much, a higher clock speed will net you a MUCH greater frame rate. In fact, I have seen tests people have run on single core speed ratings verses multicore on games that support it, and the difference was very small, and even worse on multicore in some cases if I remember. If it's for gaming, look for a higher clock speed over more cores. Save your money for a better video card instead of a multicore CPU. If you're doing 3D rendering than that can benefit from both multicores and a good 3D card. Blender just added support for RTX video cards as well (real time ray tracing).

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