I dirt proof my best bike every winter. I apply a generous coat of garage in October and it lasts until the following March/April time.

I'm not sure coating the tyres, brake track and brake pads is a good idea myself.

@kamucho

4 жыл бұрын

Are you a scientist?

@antonhelsgaun

4 жыл бұрын

@@kamucho yes

@Eucalypticaz

3 жыл бұрын

It'll wear off quickly anyway.

@bouwmatic

3 жыл бұрын

But now he's got ceramic brakes!

@Necromonger69

2 жыл бұрын

@@kamucho Common sense usually works. I'm not a scientist I know the Earth is round. I know I can't breathe underwater, a light-year is pretty far, etc

Ollie definitely spraying the dirt up against the neighbours wall, good stuff 😂👍

@richardharris8538

2 жыл бұрын

That wall, I suspect, is the GCN megabase.

Well I guess that wall will repel dirt now.

I would have disassembled the whole bike and cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol. These coatings can stay on for a few years if applied well, I think it’s worth to do this during a full reassembly.

@ZeroCool-vn9bd

4 жыл бұрын

I agree completely, I think it can't be good to get on your tires. I've been waxing some of my bikes for years..

@sydemoid

4 жыл бұрын

Personally I also believe that applying it to the brake surface may create one of many plausible scenarios: 1) make the brake track “slippery”, and until that coating is burned off due to brake pad friction, it won’t go back to normal. 2) make the brake track “stickier”, as the coating could plausibly have a reaction under elevated temperatures, thus contaminating the brake pads. 3) due to the properties that ceramics have shown in thermal resistance, it could also inadvertently help reduce some of the heat generated on the brake track.... albeit, any of the above cases might just be a very minimal effect, but, perhaps worth looking into....

@ElonMuckX

4 жыл бұрын

@OldPlaces how much mud do you put it in?

@ZeroCool-vn9bd

4 жыл бұрын

Dio Pena I normally get more hate than “OldPlaces” if I go into that much detail, but don’t stop educating people. It’s really important what parts you coat and what you don’t if you want to ride safe.

@ZeroCool-vn9bd

4 жыл бұрын

OldPlaces Do you put tire shine on it also?

Um, I think love beads refer to something else

@jochem1986

4 жыл бұрын

Not in the world of automotive detailing 😉

@brianbuday8639

4 жыл бұрын

Ouchy😝

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

4 жыл бұрын

I thought those were called anaevermind. 😌

Next video ‘How to dirt proof the cobbles of Paris Roubaix’ 😂

Never mind the coating, after watching this I want a pressure washer.

@areo0055

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@zerriox

Жыл бұрын

But only the pink one from muc off🤟🏻😂

I’ve done all sorts of ceramic coatings on my cars from the cheapest to the most expensive. I’ve done them myself, and i’ve paid detailers thousands in some cases. The claim of remaining “less dirty” is somwwhat true, but dirt will stick, and it can and will look dirty. What they are good for is (as Ollie tried to demonstrate) allowing the dirt to rinse off easily. After a really quick wash, my car looks “freshly waxed”, with no other effort. Bottom line: if you care about a shiny “waxed” look on your bike, then do it. Otherwise, don’t think it’s gonna prevent you from having to wash it.

@robertwhyte3435

4 жыл бұрын

Share this with the detailers you know and watch their jaws drop.

@georgehugh3455

4 жыл бұрын

Any particularly good product names "stick" with you?

@BananaChipzzz

4 жыл бұрын

George Hugh I like the carpro stuff (cquartz, etc) but honestly a lot of these companies take the "toothpaste marketing" approach by confusing the hell out of customers to make them think they need a ton of products for different applications. I've stopped being anal and picky and started using carpro's hydrO2 rinse on product. It's "ceramic" based like the more involved products, gets you 90% of the look and slickness, and goes on in less than 20 minutes (vs an all day or two affair). I just can't spend days doing this anymore. Nor do I want to spend the $thousands that detailers demand for applications

That's one well coated wall Ollie, well done :D Thanks a lot GCN for the great content, always a pleasure watching :)

I’d like to know how the brakes and tires performed after getting hit with the coating.

@nickc4716

4 жыл бұрын

Donut Endurance yeah, that was my first thought

@01FozzyS

4 жыл бұрын

Those and also how slippery the saddle and bar tape were.

@josephkozachek848

4 жыл бұрын

Yes to all of these comments. And think I would have pulled the wheels and wrapped or removed the saddle and brake pads. Definitely if I had disc brakes

@hgiusdfajgfds

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was certainly surprised when he didn't take off the wheels and brake pads

Am I missing something or have you just dirt-proofed the wall and your brakes?

3:59 Yup... That's the moneyshot! Great Job GCN! ^_^

Dirt proofing the tyres is a really good idea 😂👍🏻

I always found full length mud guards always worked well for dirt proofing you and your bike, but hey what do I know! lol

GCN needs a dedicated bike wash station.

Spray Ceramic coating is the way to go, spray it on supplied micro-fiber cloth and wipe down the frame,forks,etc... after a ride all that's needed is a rinse, reapply everytime you wash the bike. no mess on tires,rims, brakes,etc...

That brand sure makes it easy to get the ceramic coating into the difficult to reach places, which is good. What I used on my Specialized bike was Collinite's Fleetwax 885. It too protected it well against dirt and road grime, as well as making the paint really pop. Now I have a titanium bike so no need for anything but a green scratch pad every 5 or so years.

“Oil and grease from road and drive chain” only road for me, I paraffin wax my chain

3:16 Joker laugh. Lmao. Sounded a lot like Joaquin Phoenix in the new joker movie.

Great audio design. I love when the pressure washer matches pitch to the key of the music.

Moderate advantage over the non-treated bike really.. thanks for testing it for us!

Must be great for disc brakes. Silicon spray (applied to a rag) works wonders.

Love beads.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 don't use the internet to search for that phrase.🤦‍♂️

4:49 Ollie, have a look at that chain ;)

That'll be a lovely and clean visitor car park!

TEFLON bike, yes. LOL.

Love the wheels on the bike doctor. Good luck explaining the use of the new bike to Simon 😅

Ollie your vids are always interesting and informative plus, more importantly, humorous!

Mystery ointments and unguents magically do amazing stuff! You guys will be promoting bicycle time shares next.

Wicked Pissah Cool gonna have to try it GCN

Why lean a £12k bike up against a stone wall?.....Seat and levers scratched...

Visitors Space B........clean as a whistle!

You've been in my head. I just bought a mint marinoni special and I wanna preserve the frame. Was just thinking I could ceramic coat it!

Funnily enough I spent this afternoon washing, polishing and then waxing my bike. Having one or more coats of wax really helps with the cleaning process. It's important that the surface of the paint/lacquer is smooth first (hence my polishing with a compound beforehand). The combination of a smooth surface and a slippery wax coating means that dirt falls off with the pressure washer quite easily, leaving less manual washing to be done.

Surely he’ll understand because it’s in the name of Si-ence 😉

Interested to see your longer term review on ceramic coating, and how it affects the carbon brake track.

I used a car wax on the frame of mine. The benefit is that if you're lazy like me, after a wet ride i just wipe the bike down with a microfibre towel and most of the dirt comes off easy.

I have about 10,000 coats of wax, so I'm good. But for those who don't wax, hey, why not, give it a try (I guess). Actually, I can't see doing this to a road bike, I would instead coat the mountain or gravel bike.

Nice wheels ;)

I would definitely strip the bike before applying any of these kind of products. I applied Autoglym paint sealant to my Madone prior to the build. Bike looks as good as the day i brought it!

You gotta love his attitude.

This looks like what my bike needs, a visit to Ollie's Spray-n-Wash in Bath. Then it'll be a clean machine.

Weirdly satisfying to see Ollie ceramic coat the wall behind his bike. Can we get a video where Ollie coats the wall with ceramic, but without the bike? Just the wall...

@EditioCastigata

Жыл бұрын

Plenty of SiO2 in rocks and walls. The hydrophobic effect we so desire only presents on smooth surfaces.

Can't believe Ollie didn't put either bike in biggie smalls at the end there 😂 Nice.

Should be interesting to see if the brakes work.

Ollie: I think si won't mind Si: I will see you in court 😂😅 Si should get a coating on his bike as compensation

5:17 Ollie If you were counting that quickly for the hour record your were never going to beat merckx!

I wonder what the WD 40 man will say when he find out his new bike been in that test? :))

I tried a silicon dioxide coating on my new bike last year. Two coats before I ever rode it. I didn’t get the results I was expecting, and I am an experienced car retailer, just not with any kind of ceramic product. And it’s not cheap. This is well timed because the bike got covered in mud on a gravel ride yesterday and needed a deep clean.

Did a ceramic coating to my bike this winter. Haven't got it outdoors yet too test but still looks clean sitting on my trainer

Did my Specialized Venge with Gyeon Can Coat ceramic coating, on a Matt finish and it looks great, I did disassemble it first though

what is the brand of the ceramic ollie used? Does anyone have other recommendations?

1 minute in and first thought is what about rain repellent car windscreen spray? moves water off a windscreen without needing to turn the wipers in some conditions?

Its dirty you wash it, doesn't matter if you coat it, it's only worth investing in a product that repels contaminants, a cheap car wax can produce beading so don't waste your money the fancy stuff.

was it a good idea to get the ceramic coating on the carbon brake track?

@mark9coxy

4 жыл бұрын

And the tyres

In a perfect world (which we clearly don't live in) ceramic coating would be something to do when getting a new bike and it's still in pieces. It would be a lot easier to apply in all the nooksand crannies. And it would be a lot easier to not apply to brake surfaces, seats, bar tape, etc.

Ollie: It would be interesting to how fast/easy the mud would come off when it dried over night.

after this video the wall in te background will always be way cleaner in that spot than the rest of te wall xD

I use a product called "RejeX" by the company that produces CorriosionX. The claim on the bottle and after I asked the company is that it makes a micro layer of plastic on the surface, and that you can wax over it after. I found it in one of my local hardware stores for $20 and decided to try it. In my experience, once coated, hitting the bike with a horsehair brush is a quick way to knock the dirt off, and on a steel bike it also covers up any pinholes that may exist in the paint or any chromed/coated components. ...Or large areas where the paint is missing or chipped off... The water repellent nature of it is pretty good and probably how it keeps dirt from getting stuck or clinging to the bike, though it will still get _on_ the bike. I think the bottle claimed it would coat like 4 SUVs and last a year or something, so doing it on a bike with much less surface area extends the use a lot. Wiped on by hand with some cotton or microfiber cloth, and then buffed with a clean one, no pressure washer. It also makes areas of the bike that are coated pretty slippery to the touch, so... using it on a cyclocros bike for actually doing cyclocross is probably not a good idea, and you may want to keep it clear of your pedals if not using clipless. Since it's hand-wiped it should be easy to keep it off the braking surface too. PS: I don't have an aero helmet or cycling shoes (much less carbon/aero ones) so maybe that slickness would work on those for some level of extremely marginal gains?

How's the braking performance now with rim brakes and that coating?

Interesting timing, I've just started learning about car care products, and was thinking about putting some of the ceramic wax on my bike, especially as we approach winter here :-D

@111bonus

4 жыл бұрын

Do it. Makes it so much easier to keep it clean.

Turtlewax works just great on the frame

Bars up against the wall,classy

Surely it’s safer to hand apply a carnauba car wax by hand

@billytscherne4643

4 жыл бұрын

Don't tell anybody about our secret.

@garybower1824

4 жыл бұрын

But then we won't get to see all the cool foam from the pressure sprayer.

hope the building has a good damp course :-)

@Jack-cu7rl

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t look like it has one, usually 150mm above ground level

Where is the GCN building that Pinarello F12 Dogmas are just lying around? Asking for a friend...

Perelli tires with celeste logo - need these for my Bianchi!

Can I ask what helmet your using it look really nice

How about the weights of Ollie's rim brake F12 and Si's disc brake F12?

I would probably put down a base of Start BM glider and then rotocork in some Swix Cera F warm turbo.

that building is going to look silly with one really really clean spot, with a bike outline in crud

Great video/bikes! Must be nice!

13:04 Ollie can not only ride a road bike in shallow mud but he can do it without pedals!

I have to agree with you, I would have disassembled the bike to also get the surfaces behind mounting points to get 100 coverage, Also with rim brakes don't do the wheels, with disk brakes, take the rotors off, then do the wheels but not the tires. You don't want to impair traction on the road. It would be best to do this when the bike is new and super clean. It works great for cars, and should for bikes.

I have a pure white Ridley climbing bike that cannot stay clean to save its life. I spent so much time cleaning off dust and oil smudges from the chainstays that when I wanted a Ridley XC bike, I went with a black one. Are there any worries about getting that coating on the brake track with rim brakes? I want to coat my bikes, but I also don't want to lose braking.

... was expecting Si to scream from somewhere off camera and go chasing Ollie off with a broom or something ... but it was in the name of science X-)

How did that coating effect the braking on your carbon wheel?

Wicked video....I hope your tires dont become super slick...the rubber with all that coating...please let me know how you found your tires afterwards...cheers from CDN. 👍🇨🇦

Ollie you need to do a ride of a few hours then leave it for a few and see if dried mud comes off easily

Honestly, clean your bike after every ride, it sounds hard but it's not.I made it a habit and my bike still looks brand new. Spend an extra 10 minutes washing it, and then ride it to air dry it for a nice cool down. Your bike and drive train will thank-you and you're able to eat an extra half cookie for all the extra effort you put in.

I use F11 on my car, motorcycle, and bike. It not only is highly hydrophobic but it makes the paint pop!

I'd double the concentration and use a 1.5 liter handheld pressure sprayer to apply the Si02-based coating ( Wetcoat or Aquacoat ) to the bike ( instead of the wall ), much more effective! Alternatively you can use a comparable product ( Cure from Gyeon ) on your microfiber drying towel. Use it once a month and your bike will thank you with a lot of speed and a proud glossy shine! I like to spoil my favourite bike with a layer of a nice smelling Carnaubawax afterwards for even more beading and a jawdropping wetlook!

Getting real close with the pressure washer. I mean forget bearings you get any paint chips Ollie?

I'm not sure Ollie knows what "love beads" are. Can no one EVER tell him? Please.

whats the name of this coating and where can it be found?

I hope thats not silicone based and being applied to your braking surfaces ;-)

9:05 the moment I realized, what the hell am I watching?!

Is this stuff safe to use on a titanium frame?

Great video, just wondering if just waxing your frame with car wax would give you the same effect?

@gcntech

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure, it certainly could work

Cool cleaning bro...ps, Si's bike looked faster.

@gcntech

4 жыл бұрын

It probably is faster.

Was it a good idea putting it on your wheels?

Perhaps not a effective, but MUCH easier to apply is Maxima SC1 High Gloss Coating. It’s in an spray can and just sprays on/wipes off. No pressure washer needed, and will out all the associated overspray waste. I use it on both matte and gloss surfaces and it does a rather decent job.

Can I suggest that Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish aerosol or Turtle Wax hybrid ceramic sealant produce the same or better results, that last longer and are easier to apply. I use them every time I clean my bike and coupled with wax chain lube my bike stays immaculate and so easy to clean. Cassette is absolutely spotless every time.

He was matte-iculous with his cleaning

Is that Mavic Cosmic Carbon Pro UST? I wonder if you run it tubeless.

Would be interested to see what ACF - 50 is like for bicycles. It’s used a lot on motorcycles and is very highly regarded.

I've never seen a ceramic coating mixed with water and applied via spray hose. Every other one I've seen is a liquid applied directly to the paint with a small applicator, much like wax. It is carefully applied manually to the paint and then small sections are buffed to a nice shine. One prior step to ceramic application is using an oxidizing stripper to get EVERYTHING off the paint. Plus, I can't imagine you'd mix regular water with this stuff. Water hardness varies by region significantly, so it would require distilled water if anything. The ceramic stuff is toxic and EXPENSIVE. You don't spray it all over the place like that and you certainly wouldn't want it all over the front of your house. I looked up "Carbon Collective Hybrid Coating" and I don't think it's an actual ceramic coating. It says it "lasts three months," which is pretty much what typical paint wax does, if not more. True ceramic coatings to paint are permanent applications and can only be removed with rubbing compound and a buffer wheel. On high-end cars, it's done only after proper paint correction is performed to maximize end results. And true ceramic coatings last 1 to 5 years, depending on which you choose. "Lifetime" coatings are snake oil.

Why didn't you use the ultrasonic cleaner you showed in GCN for the drivetrain?

My local bike shop has offered ceramic coating for the last couple of years