Great production and great persons to interview for these questions.

“Person”ally, at 18:31 I like how Robert Kuhn describes the relationship of Religion to the Ultimate Reality/forces in nature. He knows how to ask questions that differentiates perspectives of all his interviewees from Science to Religion, very enlightening, Thanks!

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️YES YES YES YES YES YES YES. Sorry for all the comments but I just love these conversations! Thank you so much!

As Krishna says in the Bhagavid-gita: " one should meditate upon the supreme person as the one who knows everything, as he who is the oldest, who is the controller, who is smaller than the smallest, who is the maintainer of everything, who is beyond all material conception, who is inconceivable, and who is always a person. He is luminous like the sun, and he is transcendental, beyond this material nature. Bhag: 8:9

intro music is wonderful

Robert's a great host.

God is an all knowing energy that creates

@bastianrivero

4 жыл бұрын

Jermain Roberts what else is there? There cannot be anything without first having an intention, a thought 💭 energy creates worlds, god is that energy. 🤩

@bastianrivero

4 жыл бұрын

Jermain Roberts they know this but without “proof” they won’t accept it.. it’s a “belief” for them so it doesn’t count 🙄😅

While I greatly enjoy and appreciate Robert Lawrence Kuhn's documentary interviews on the variety of topics he explores, as he is sincere and objective (to the extent that's possible), I can't help thinking that Kuhn will eventually end up in the same place Socrates did i.e. "All that I know is that I know nothing." While it may first appear to be a copout, and def. shouldn't discourage philosophical and scientific exploration, I'm afraid one has to eventually face a brutal truth: we have very little knowledge of the big questions in the universe.

@johnbrzykcy3076

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike... I like that quote by Socrates. That's why I like to question things. I even wonder sometimes what is "knowledge" itself. Maybe that's the BIGGEST question of all.

@MikeKGullion

4 жыл бұрын

​@@johnbrzykcy3076 "What is knowledge" is and has been quite a philosophical pursuit in academic philosophy, known as epistemology. Robert Audi, a University of Notre Dame professor, wrote a leading textbook on the topic. Epistemology is quite a complex area of philosophy and is often, along with logic, considered foundational and necessary before pursuing other areas of philosophy. Having a science background, I've always preferred analytical philosophy to continental philosophy. However, I agree with Martin Heidegger in the sense that one, even if the universe is indifferent and without purpose, needs to sacrifice time and dedicate their being toward something, as life doesn't last forever; death awaits us all. Naturally, we all face this existential problem. We all know the clock is ticking. And I can't think of a better way of dedicating one's time and being than what Robert Lawrence Kuhn is doing---i.e. refining arguments, clarifying qualifications, defining premises, gathering evidence, adding small bricks to the wall of knowledge, etc.---even if he ends up empty-handed in the end. There's intrinsic value in the pursuit of knowledge, in spite of there being no hope of success.

@johnbrzykcy3076

4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeKGullion Thanks for taking time to reply. What is the difference between analytical philosophy and continental philosophy? You sound very educated and I like your viewpoints. including "adding small bricks to the wall of knowledge." I hope I'm adding , NOT subtracting, bricks to my wall. Some bricks may change position but I think the cornerstone will always stay the same. The cornerstone, to me, is Jesus the Christ. So, I think Robert will have success.

These Theologians talk in circles. None of it makes any sense whatsoever. I'm glad you stand up to them with logic. Thanks for the video content. Itd be awesome to meet you one day!

@frankwhelan1715

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, amazing how much they 'know' about God ,while millions can't even see any evidence 'he' exists.

@gerardmoloney9979

4 жыл бұрын

@@frankwhelan1715 the heavens declares the glory of God leaving no excuse for not believing in God. If you want to understand why there is a God who created everything, then listen to Dr. Hugh Ross. Astrophysicist. He will make it easy for you to know the truth. The best scientific explanation is that everything came from nothing. Now you can believe that or believe what the Bible states very clearly; everything that is detectable is made from that witches is undetectable. Now the bible stated, thousands of years before scientists discovered,that the university has a beginning putting it ahead of the scientists and they are still only catching up with the bible. All they are doing is proving the bible correct.

@jimthompson4132

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone else sees what I can see.

@davidcraig7771

4 жыл бұрын

@Jimbus Rift relax

@duaneholcomb8408

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankwhelan1715 that could be said of gravity. Acording to thst statement there is no gravity.

God is beyond our comprehension, that’s why we still only have just an idea of what god is but not the definitive answer.

❤️❤️❤️THANK YOU ROBERT. I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT YOU. EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU ARE MY REASON FOR LIVING. PLEASE KNOW HOW MUCH GOD LOVES YOU.❤️❤️❤️

@emranba-abbad8335

4 жыл бұрын

I wish Robert interviews a traditional Muslim scholar, he would find his preferred view standing looking him in the face. Read Quran brother and enjoy the mixed logic and spirituality. Then listen to its recitation in its original language, and enjoy the emotional stir!

Yes. Jesus

@josepinheiro292

2 жыл бұрын

100%

9:25 " Does the sun precedes the light?" Oh boy imagine this prist talking with Lawrence krauss.

oh wow good point from deepak

Hope to see the Alternate Concepts of God episode soon...

As an atheist non physicalist i agree more with Deepak than the Christian philosophist, If Conciousness is fundamental then that thing they call god is not a person, much less a deity

The interpretation of God can feel like a person.

@TimeGhost7

4 жыл бұрын

@ReligionlessFAITH Is that Nietzsche? It sounds like something he would say. Still, I shall push back on the assuredness. Carving out space in the world pushes against what already exists, deity against deity is unavoidable. Those who bring forth the deity, reflect the believers' way of being, so is a force of hope. A deity at whatever scale is a protector in aggression and sanctuary. The nemesis I see as fear itself (for monotheism), so I think vanquishing it is an illusion. You can capture fear in a deity or elsewhere but it must exist. Fear flows from others via trust as their barrier to threats. The shaman class are meant to be aware of more of the world to tell people what they should pay attention to, in a way others can understand. What would be acceptable behaviour in such a position, and what would be deemed extorting people's good faith? I feel this question is a matter of "competence of observation" between the practitioner and the one judging them. People use caution if uncertain in their advice to others, and that natural fear\caution of human systems feels something other than extortion, yet the felt implication had it included. As for impossible observations, I shall agree. I used "feel" and "interpretation" to make a link between these realms. If a statement of truth requires more certainty, as I fully know it does for many, I cannot traverse it.

@TimeGhost7

4 жыл бұрын

@ReligionlessFAITH There's a lot there, so I will narrow my focus on "The real PRIME DUALITY is IGNORANCE VS AWARENESS" to make a point. To me, duality is the talk of argument. A way to pick a backdrop to state forth one's position, but I never believed a duality was primary. Breaking conventional dualities (like good vs evil) should be applauded as it brings new wisdom and helps people express their thoughts in interesting ways. The projection made utilising the awareness duality is the boldness of the old convention rejection, to provide an example of its success condition. Yet, to me this sparks of overcorrection, which defies awareness at the opposite end of an argument. He's incredibly skilful with language, but self-defined terms are still a problem in projecting greater meaning. I only speak to stand my ground against the certainty you bring to me. There's a lot I chose not to engage with, or it would exhaust me. I have no interest in defying your own view. Just that you understand my resistance to arguments.

@TimeGhost7

4 жыл бұрын

@ReligionlessFAITH As I see it, that God defines morality, and can do no wrong, creates an awareness gap of understanding in the place of evil. There is a reframing proposed through awareness to recognise the evil within ourselves. Then he extracts a feeling of life, to give a basis of that awareness, in which to understand ourselves. Kind of... There's always more depth but I'm too tired. I'm not able to properly take this on right now. The feeling I have is your responses are copy and paste text which can mean great depth, but the weak point is in the connection to what I say. Can you confirm this is the case? My opposition to certainty is not countered by this, but my ability to lay out my truth in opposition to such text is.

@psuedonym8344

4 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one with the misnomer that the Devine is not god? For is god divine because he is divinity, or is he divine because he is god? If god is absolute, all things came through him. So the answer seems 👍 yes

@TimeGhost7

4 жыл бұрын

​@ReligionlessFAITH Maybe I was picking up on the well-rehearsed nature of your speaking when I mentioned copying and pasting. There's an oddity that it feels you are trying to convince me of something I am quite happy to agree to. Your text seems hard to construct, so I questioned the nature of this engagement. Language is the connection of reference concepts between other beings. Tested concepts in the world make communication easier. You're weaving out your own concepts against the world-view we participate in. A bold move and worth my interest, as you do it well. I mentioned self-definitions, but there is a network of slightly changed definitions, that adds complexity to an uninitiated reader of your thoughts. I must acknowledge the greater mental exhaustion with your unfamiliar concept space, so shorter replies or easing into your framing would have assisted me. Yet, I feel you pulling me into your internal world. This strange mental landscape in which I feel clumsy and oafish. But I am a compliant visiter. Mapping my mental model to your own is not a simple process. Hence the initial preference for making opposition, when not mapping cleanly. (Spotting our difficulties in understanding the other and latching on to those.) But I tried that, and the conversation did not feel to be going in a useful direction. I shall instead attempt the steelman (as we're not that far apart), simplifying your words, to my own framing as I must. Similarly, you must recognise "good enough" for my understanding of your view. I am not here to imitate your concept landscape and too much detail (of the incompatible sort) can push me into caring less of it. God\THE CREATOR has a lot of history attached. His glory is framed by extolling a morality as divine. The concept of absolute awareness is known as we lament our ignorance and dream of flawless reasoning. This is in contrast to absolute goodness, where such a concept evades knowing. By what frame of reference, can we see pure goodness? There is a feeling of God is reported to extoll such a blessing, and yet especially those of us without a religious experience it is lacking firmness of meaning. The foundations of truth in the divine must be strong enough to connect the entire world. A good without evil is not readily conceptualised by human minds but merely trusted, and by definition, there is a blindness in that trust. We instead should extoll only awareness as the divine, supplanting of the moral framework as derivative to awareness. The blindness of trust is built into the awareness duality to which the divine is seen through, as a naturally comprehended inefficiency. This is in comparison to good. A subjective judgment upon oneself, based on their perceived world. Moral subjectivity does not scale into a true divine being, fragmented as it is, through bickering subjectivities, to never reach the unitary. I hope that was good enough. I hold multiple and often opposing perspectives in my head, and I gave you as much space as I could muster to hold your well thought out view. I hope any disagreement becomes self-evident in the concessions of some agreement, rather than as a challenge to defeat.

It is unbelievable you asked such a question.

God is within,we are all brahma,we are all one.

The Orthodox priest gave excellent answers.

Every particle of gold has similar properties as tons of gold. Similarly ever part of infinite is infinite only. But we don't prepare ourselves for infinite identity and happy with limited.

God is experiencing the world through you , along with you , and for you, for gods own reason

@jeremiahmilazzo1446

4 жыл бұрын

@Ruby Badilla it's not necessary which makes it beautiful

@freedommascot

4 жыл бұрын

We are God. There is only God.

@flamingphoenix824

4 жыл бұрын

And without my consent.

@freedommascot

4 жыл бұрын

jeremiah milazzo Yes...that rings true from every angle I look at it. There is no question that the universe IS becoming aware of itself. This is an obvious fact that’s staring us in the face-or in the FACE!

It´s all consciousness, that has an infinite potential of vibration to create, and it has created among other things us as persons, we (and other similar creatures) are the divine persons.

God is a family unit in which they relate to each other exactly as that. A family is one.

All is what I believe it to be - belief is not knowledge. Is it what gives me comfort?

Have you done a video on the double slit experiment yet?

Every atom is devine. Whole world is devine, when I was devine.

I am the alpha and the omega.. everything that exist has existed..🙏🏻

Deepak is so deep I can't swim.

Ive mentioned this channel at my work since me and a few colleagues at work always end up having deep convos like this before we leave at the end of the day! We've come to the conclusion that we are a simulation because quantum mechanics doesnt go any further........we "believe" that the designer has designed it as such so that we cant go any further at a quantum level hence why pysicists have hit a brick wall.

@duaneholcomb8408

2 жыл бұрын

And you may very well be right I study physics. And Lots of truth in that statement. I believe I exist therefore I am. We can know nothing without belief because we trust or have faith in our senses. Bit they may be wrong. So all is based on belief. Or faith. ., gravity its self is not understood has no mass. No molecules is responsible fir our creation. Yet is a phenomena. A attraction. That we don't understand. And it dictates our daily lives. Spans the universe. But we only see the effect of it andhave no idea where it came from. Or really how it works.

Yes persona we all were one scource but split into many personalities

Personhood is one of infinite facets of god. We cling to god as a person because that is the part we can relate to. God is a person and also not just a person.

@andrebrown8969

4 жыл бұрын

I have not seen that Nando's logo in a while, but also god does not exist.

We presume the presence of intelligence (as a function, not a mass of information content) is a priori. This supposition bears plausibility granted human exploration and experience. For me, the emergent point was, if God exists and is hidden, it would be incumbent upon God to reveal God-self. I experienced this revelation in a way consistent with hundreds of testimonies I have personally examined. Further, the content of the revelation (personally and the historical collective) I found overwhelmingly compelling in scope, coherence, relevance, and correspondence to tested and accepted knowledge.

Every person is the divine experiencing itself in this matrix

How a person could be everywhere

@dankuchar6821

4 жыл бұрын

The Sun is a single thing, but it's influence is vast. Just an analogy.

Robert you must interview the physicist Tom Campbell. MBT

this is like a skin cell on a foot hoping the body to which it belongs is similar to itself (profound egoism)...if there is a god you have just diminished it's standing by a factor of infinity

God is however u urself perceive it to be

"A" person, I dont think so. "ALL" persons as 1 I think yes.

@dankuchar6821

4 жыл бұрын

God = three separate persons, one single Purpose. Just as he described and clarified in John 17.

It would be hard for us to be "persons" without God being one, as the Divine Father is the source of our personality...

Still trying to define and describe the thing to believe in. And no consensus. I'm not surprised

11:37 "Just nod your head so the exchange will be over..."

A bit of the music around the middle reminded me of Goblins theme to the 1970s horror film Suspiria .

i think once you are aware of a possibility, makes it more possible to be real. God is aware of all and therefore understands everything. If we believe we can be aware of everything that is, we also can understand everything. We just don't believe this or practice it. Everything become easier with practice. JC said we would do greater things than he. there is a message in that.

Everything that we have felt , know , or conceive of , the grand intelligence already knows them , if god created this world including everything we can experience, god himself knows those feelings , what we dont know is the amplitude of these things plus more that god must be experiencing

If there is a divine then everything must invariably be divine. Even Divine must be divine...even though he was weird and scary. Even I'm divine in my own way...just like Divine

@glenemma1

4 жыл бұрын

You are right. There is nothing but God, One being being everything.

@TheGuiltsOfUs

3 жыл бұрын

Was Marquis de sade divine?

@glenemma1

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuiltsOfUs There is nothing which is not divine. God is everything including Marquis de sade, Hitler and Jesus Christ.

Imagine three types of energies with theirs own attributes, the father, masculine attributes protector, kind, strong etc, feminine attributes mother, tenderness carer, and the third, the child...who feels protected, love, care....when you ask if God could be a person, if the conscience of a person could evolve here, on Earth, seeking for superior answers...the connection with those energies will grow exponentially and this "child" will be perceive different...with others qualities than the normal public...we will call him, her the child of God, or a Brahman, or an illuminated or a Messiah. All of us can do it, when we seek answers inside ourself. It's an state, not a title

God the Father, pure Consciousness, and God the Mother, Holy Spirit or Power, God the Son, Divine Incarnate as Human Being. We all are made in the image, power and consciousness of God. God's Realisation is seeing His / Her / Their reflection, infinitely, in every Human and in their Evolutionary Journey of Spiritual Realisation and ultimate Unity with God.

God is outside human perception. We base our perceptions on what we see.

@mustafaelbahi7979

4 жыл бұрын

@Time to Reason Because you are trying to hide the truth because it will appear that it is a matter of time whether you want to or not

Divine is a person. The Divine is every person. The Divine is every part of creation because the Divine is infinite. That means the Divine is everything. If everything is not Divine then the Divine is not infinite and that means the Divine is not Divine at all. Unity is all of creation. Consciousness is Unity experiencing itself

The Pleroma is transpersonal with personal attributes according to this “waking sleep” state of consciousness.

Sure, divine can be a person. It can be anything you want.

Interview Sadhguru too

Only if that provides greater explanatory value than current models. (It doesn't!)

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” ― Epicurus

@johnbrzykcy3076

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Tri.... I like those quotes. We know evil cometh. Who cometh to defeat evil?

Yes! If the Holy Spirit is within him. He is the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. ...

@johnmartin7346

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, Matthew, 24 : 36

I feel like there is a guiding hand ... it’s impossible to explain. I believe it comes from what humans have created constructs for. I like the Christian construct with its personification. But for those who are not open to the Christian format, and you are curious ... feel you are connected with ‘something’... I recommend the Tao... I like Wayne dyers translation ... but there are many.translations. It took me a lot of spiritual philosophical study outside Christianity before I fully appreciated Christianity.

A human person, is a material body, now if you are out side os your body is a different history, your spirit became part of everything you see, your size has no limit depending of your spirituality, you can see the bodys in the universe, they don't Luke big. In this life and the next one stay in the light.

The God is ever existing , ever pervading,all knowing super intelligence universal conciseness which can only be experienced by human conciseness.

If you want to create one that is a person; sure you can. It is all created by humans after all.

@andrebrown8969

3 жыл бұрын

@Catherine Golden Yeah heard; everyone has about something or another. But do we believe all of them? Obviously not, so why this? I must ask myself this, if I am to be honest. And I must give myself an honest answer also.

A person can be malicious and petty and fickle.

God may not be person but supreme conscious ness may be termed as God.

Without a an intellect and will nothing can be CAUSED.

In his image

Great question! A more “relational” form of the question is: Is thinking of God as like a person, a good metaphor? The answer is - yes! However, that is only one of many ways of understanding what is unavoidably ineffable. The “Ground of our being” is personal to each of us. However, the “God as a person” metaphor is limited and can get nasty. Is God “angry” when bad things happen? Does “He” need appeasing by demanding we purge sinners, heretics, infidels and apostates? Is God a “He” so only men can serve Him? Hence, I much prefer “The Fertile Void” or the “Ground of all being” as metaphors. Seeing Jesus as God is likewise helpful for many as an exemplar, but IMO suffers the same limitations (eg. being male).

1. I suggest that we (our minds and souls) are the literal embryos of God's mind (the universe), with God (the living Soul of the universe) simply being the fully-matured adult version of what we are each capable of becoming after being delivered from our bodies via death. 2. We are persons. 3. Therefore, God (in whose image we have allegedly been created) is a person.

@kefrenferrer6777

4 жыл бұрын

Nosense mormonism

@TheUltimateSeeds

4 жыл бұрын

@@kefrenferrer6777 Hi kefren ferrer, Nonsense as opposed to what, exactly? - to the even greater nonsense that the unfathomable order of the universe is a product of chance? I get it that you have a disdain for religion, but can you please clarify your position?

@TheUltimateSeeds

4 жыл бұрын

@Jimbus Rift Hi Jimbus Rift, If you what to see some extreme mental gymnastics (involving quantum and holographic theories) that I use to justify my “precondition,” then have a look at the more than 100 drawings and illustrations I created and uploaded on my website. Here's the link - www.theultimateseeds.com

Are we short of philosophers?

Why Can't God be both. A Person and an Ultimate Consciousness. We are very constrained by the limitations of our language and therefore we keep going in loops trying to define this ultimate reality.

If 'god' is a 'person' then one thing for sure is that 'he' is going to be incredibly busy...

What if Robert Lawrence Kuhn talked to a fool like me? And I could tell my best hypothesis that God is so powerful that he created us all on accident, and he is only delicately catching up with what we are, but being careful not to destroy us in the process. And all we see as evil or good is our own construct, while he has already figured out a way to being us home, but we cannot know it because to even TOUCH our existence would destroy it all. Time and Space are our trap.

I don't think breaking down abstract concepts associated with the idea of "person" necessarily supports the view that this topic has transcended into a spiritual domain that excludes mortal human fallibility. I am finding this whole exploration has assumed that human thinkers bring meritorious concepts to the discussion of religion and it is simply not so. It is like creating a box and saying that the boundaries of the box are beyond those of the human mind and (the worst part) that all those who talk about what is NOT in the box are magically endowed with great insight.

So why would Jesus not know what the father knows if their the same person?🤷🏼‍♀️

@jackbean213

4 жыл бұрын

Ruby Badilla Seriously? This is what you do with your life?🤣

@jackbean213

4 жыл бұрын

Ruby Badilla You are just joking right?🤔

@rstevewarmorycom

4 жыл бұрын

Then why would god agree with you unless that god was actually you.

@GetRekTUWiLL

3 жыл бұрын

Because God and Jesus are two different people. Before God created anything else he created his son first, Jesus. Jesus hasn't always existed. The Bible says he was created by God. The Trinity IS NOT A BIBLE TEACHING. The Holy Spirit is not a person, it's God's active force.

What is the difference between Consciousness and Intelligence ?

@mustafaelbahi7979

4 жыл бұрын

Intelligence is knowing the time and place for stupidity

@mustafaelbahi7979

4 жыл бұрын

@Time to Reason I don't think Asian rule, but it is the Nazi and fascist rule that will put you under the sword.

@mustafaelbahi7979

4 жыл бұрын

@Time to Reason I also replied to your comment

@mustafaelbahi7979

4 жыл бұрын

@Time to Reason You scare me xx

Message From The Universal Council & God/Source/Creator kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4Csp8GAYKy1Z5c.html Skip to 7:30 for @21:00 love/light vs. @27 :40 hate/dark message from @13:40 Universal (vs. Galactic) @28:50 Council & @16:45 God/Source/Creator to many @19:15 Midgard/Earth species.

Divine is impersonal but has the ability to manifest as a person. Like Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and the list goes on....

@ayaheggo

4 жыл бұрын

Muhammad, Jesus and mossa are human beings not a divine they are only prophets and messangers from the mighty creator .

@cvsree

4 жыл бұрын

@@ayaheggo agreed but, they gave up their identity with body so, they are one with God.

@robertnieten7259

4 жыл бұрын

Except that Budda and Mohammed never claimed to be God in the flesh, Jesus did that's why the Pharisees wanted to kill him.

The Eternal Soul - The Spirit of God I mean, no soul has regrets that the current physical form is changing; is about to "die"? The body never "dies," but merely changes form with the soul. Yet I understand your meaning, so for now I use the vocabulary you have established. If you have a clear understanding of what you wish to create with regard to what you have chosen to call the afterlife, or if you have a clear set of beliefs that support an after-death experience of reuniting with God, then, no, the soul never, ever has regrets over what you call death. Death in that instance is a glorious moment; a wonderful experience. Now the soul can return to it's natural form; it's normal state. There is an incredible lightness; a sense of total freedom; a limitlessness. And an awareness of Oneness that is at once blissful and sublime. It is not possible for the soul to regret such a shift. You're saying, then, that death is a happy experience? For the soul that wishes it to be, yes, always. Well, if the soul wants out of the body so bad, why doesn't it just leave it? Why is it hanging around? I did not say the soul "wants out of the body," I said the soul is joyful when it is out. Those are two different things. You can be happy doing one thing, and happy then doing another. The fact that you are joyful doing the second does not mean you were unhappy doing the first. The soul is not unhappy being in the body. Quite to the contrary, the soul is pleased to be you in your present form. That does not preclude the possibility that the soul might be equally pleased to be disconnected from it. Why is there such a delay between thought and creation before we die, and no delay at all after we die? Because you are working within the illusion of time. There is no delay between thought and creation away from the body, because you are also away from the parameter of time. In other words, as You have said so often, time does not exist. Not as you understand it. The phenomenon of "time" is really a function of perspective. Why does it exist while we are in the body? You have caused it to be moving into, by assuming, your present perspective. You use this perspective as a tool with which you can explore and examine your experiences much more fully, by separating them into individual pieces, rather than a single occurrence. Life is a single occurrence, an event in the cosmos that is happening right now. All of it is happening. Everywhere. There is no "time" but now. There is no "place" but here. Here and now is All There Is. Yet you choose to experience the magnificence of here and now in its every detail, and to experience your Divine Self as the here and now Creator of that reality. There were only two ways - two fields of experience - in which you could do that. Time and space. So magnificent was this thought that you literally exploded with delight! In that explosion of delight was created space between the parts of you, and the time it took to move from one part of yourself to another. In this way you literally tore your Self apart to look at the pieces of you. You might say that you were so happy you "fell to pieces." You been picking up the pieces ever since. That's all my life is! I'm just putting together the pieces, trying to see if they make any sense. And it is through the device called time that you have managed to separate the pieces, to divide the indivisible, thus to see it and experience it more fully, as you are creating it. Even as you look at a solid object through a microscope, seeing that it is not solid at all, but actually a conglomeration of a million different effects - different things all happening at once and thus creating the larger effect - so, too, do you use time as the microscope of your soul. Consider the Parable of the Rock. Once there was a Rock, filled with countless atoms, protons, neutrons and subatomic particles of matter. These particles were racing around continually, in a pattern, each particle going from "here" to "there," and taking "time" to do so, yet going so fast that the Rock itself seemed to move not at all. It just was. There it lay, drinking in the sun, soaking up the rain, and moving not at all. "What is this, inside of me, that is moving?" the Rock asked. "It is You," said a Voice from Afar. "Me?" replied the Rock. "Why, that is impossible. I am not moving at all. Anyone can see that." "Yes, from a distance," the Voice agreed. "From way over here you look as if you are solid, still, not moving. But when I come closer - when I look very closely at what is actually happening - I see that everything that comprises What You Are is moving. It is moving at incredible speed through time and space in a particular pattern which creates You as the thing called 'Rock.' "And so, you are like magic! You are moving and not moving at the same time." "But," asked the Rock, "which, then, is the illusion? The Oneness, the stillness, of the Rock, or the separateness and the movement of its parts?" To which the Voice replied, "Which, then, is the illusion? The Oneness, the stillness, of God? Or the separateness and movement of its parts?" And I tell you this: Upon this Rock, I will build My church. For this is the Rock of Ages. This is the eternal truth that leaves no stone unturned. I have explained it all for you here, in this little story. This is The Cosmology. Life is a series of minute, incredibly rapid movements. These movements do not affect at all the immobility and the Beingness of Everything That Is. Yet, just as with the atoms of the rock, it is the movement which is creating the stillness, right before your eyes. From a distance, there is no separateness. There cannot be, for All That Is is All There Is, and there is nothing else. I am the Unmovrd Mover. From the limited perspective with which you view All That Is, you see yourself as separate and apart, not one immovable being, but many, many beings, constantly in motion. Both observations are accurate. Both realities are "real." And when I "die," I don't die at all, but simply shift into awareness of the macrocosm - where there is no "time" or "space," now and then, before and after. Precisely. You've got it.

Short answer, yes. Large answer, yes What's a person? ...

@williamburts5495

4 жыл бұрын

" what's a person"? self

The Ground of all Things is a Spirit All Powerful Being...not a person.

God as a phenomenon are deep creative thoughts, carried and shaped by cosmic energy, visualized and materialized in our mand to be suitable to our culture or political interests. It is not necessary to flatter anyone with proof, to convince them. The world is ruled by manipulators, illusionists, and reverence for those in a small circle.

Gibberish formed in an isolated cultural bubble. Reinforced by others within the same bubble. Otherwise not arguable or provable theories.

Everything has a cause, why not our personality?

Closer to Truth: Humans can only ever experience or hope to understand the Deity as we would another person. It's a limitation of our minds and body's. However the Deity is not like your next door neighbor. According to the law you are to make no images of the Deity that looks like anything on the earth or in the sea. Most believe that this is to discourage idolatry. It isn't. The true purpose is to remind the believer that the Deity is a No Thing. There is nothing anywhere which is truly like the Deity but the Deity. To picture the Deity as a Bull or a Lion is to deny and dilute the true power of the divine being. So... no, The Deity is not a person. The Deity sends his agents to interact with us and we see them as various persons.

The question whether GOD is a PERSON or some other FORM or ENTITY I BELIEVE SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. GOD being OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT and OMNIPRESENT should EXPLAIN IT ALL. If GOD NEEDS to PRESENT HIMSELF as a PERSON, HE CAN DO IT, just like JESUS CHRIST. If HE NEEDS to present HIMSELF as someTHING of a MESSAGE or a RESULT as the SPLITTING of the water ACROSS the SEA so that MOSES and His Jewish Flocks can safely CROSS INTO THE PROMISE LAND, HE CAN DO IT.

Divine means that which belongs to God or is attributed to God. It means that which is godly or heavenly. A person is a being or an intelligent creature, including angels and humans, that has relationships, behavior patterns, rationale and personality. Therefore the divine can be a person when it is God, with intelligence, has relationships, behavior patterns, reasoning and personality.

Love CTT but this video, not so much. To me, having discussions like this is good. I think we should have agreement first on the definitions of the words within the question like "divine" and "person". I feel this way because without this agreement up front, those involved in the discussion are way too free to change the meaning of the words and the question.

@darkstarpress9455

2 жыл бұрын

I'm fine with it as is. For me it's not about trying to pin these theist guys down and "own them with logic" or something. I know it can be somewhat frustrating to hear them not really answer the question as we are perceiving it, but what I like about these interviews so much is that he really just presses the interviewees with an interesting question, then lets them talk at length of it however they'd like. They usually end up making some really interesting points even if they aren't directly answering his question the way we'd like. I'm glad he does it like this instead of spending the whole time trying to split hairs with them on stuff and force them onto a certain topic to make a point he already has. He's trying to listen and get closer to an answer, not show that he already has the answer.

God said, let us make man in our image and likeness … Therefore it must be that God= the father, the son and the holy ghost (which seems to account for the 3-persons that constitute God and referred to as "OUR" in "our likeness"). Since we are in God's image and likeness then we must also be of 3 persons --- father (mind), son (flesh) and holy ghost (soul). Jesus Christ, the body, was doing the work of God's mind until he commend his spirit into his father's hands. David Bohm criticized our approach to solving problems as 'fragmented'. We put boundaries on what constitutes the scope of discussion. He advocates the notion of "wholeness" -- no boundaries, when exploring our reality.

@robertnieten7259

4 жыл бұрын

It comes down to what is a person? spirit, soul, and body. For God to consists of more than one person He would have to have three bodies, three souls, and three Spirits, according to what is defined as a person.

@trooperrvwithgretaandliber6774

4 жыл бұрын

@@robertnieten7259 I agree, it all comes down to the definition of a person. However that definition can be deduced from the context in which the term is used. I chose the Bible for context as well as the contemporary use of the term person. Such as, are you a kind person? Are you an intelligent person? Are you a physical person? Are we "All" of these persons in one? Yes.

Imagine if you rewinded all consciousness back in time , you would eventually arrive back at gods own mind and consciousness, the same way we rewind the universe , rewind all consciousness

@dustinellerbe4125

4 жыл бұрын

If only consciousness existed outside of an entity

@jeremiahmilazzo1446

4 жыл бұрын

@@dustinellerbe4125 like the space around us ?

@dustinellerbe4125

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeremiahmilazzo1446 what does that have to do with consciousness? If your brain is dead, your consciousness ceases to exist. Period.

@jeremiahmilazzo1446

4 жыл бұрын

@@dustinellerbe4125 but what if consciousness is a fundamental aspect of the universe like gravity or time , and your brain is like a radio receiving that signal of the power of consciousness , but you are only tuned into your own percieved grasp of its energy of what you call you

@dustinellerbe4125

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeremiahmilazzo1446 your idea sounds great, but thats not how it works. Have you studied the brain and how changing the brain changes who you are and how you perceive the world around you? Also, splitting the cerebral cortex allows the brain to function as 2 separate objects. Perceiving different things. Believing in different things. Its worth checking out.

The only way for a single being to seem to be three persons is by each one disassociating from the single, original being; and disassociation implies they are not that “person” or “being”from which they disassociate. Hmmm 🤔

Who were all the indigenous people of the world giving thanks to and praising before white man invaded their lands with the bible? Because it’s well documented that they were.

If you alter what a person means then sure

The trinity is a third century invention, not biblical. Kuhn should look at this in terms of ancient polytheism. Christians were initially fragmented and trinity represented a polytheistic compromise.

@clarkbonilla

4 жыл бұрын

First, trace Hebrew roots in Sumerian and Canaanite religions. Second, note distinction between Elohim and Yhw. Third, note explicit OT admission of the existence of other gods. Fourth, look at similarities between ancient near eastern religions that speak of gods coming down from heaven, dying, descending into hell and being resurrected. First, note the history of early Christians arguing over whether Jesus was a god, or just a man, and if god, whether a lesser god or equal to the supreme God. The idea that Jesus was god equal with the father was not the consensus and it took the Eastern Roman emperors to force this view on others centuries later.

we all begin to loose our divinity soon after birth sometimes we delay the inevitable by not losing our virginity ...

Thank you for another foundational video asking metaphysical questions about God. Is God a person? By "God", I assume is meant the ultimate source and creative force of the observable universe and beyond, assuming of course that there is a God at all. And by "person", I assume is meant an anthropomorphic human-like physical body presence with "personhood" qualities. Frankly, I have the same type of reaction to this notion that many have: it's absurd, silly and amusing. This strikes me as the ultimate form of anthropic thinking - imposing our human body, qualities and presence on a thing, force or being which, literally by categorical definition, we cannot ever fully understand or know. If we were intelligent, sentient birds, might we think God is a bird? Of if we were intelligent, sentient frogs, might we think God is a . . . well you get the idea. The question of "is God a person" can be dismissed as readily as when Dorothy's dog Toto pulled the curtain on the apparently omnipotent and omniscient Wizard of Oz -- to reveal that is it was just an old man "humbug". Thanks again for the video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i4utpaWDZqWYh6g.html

@johnbrzykcy3076

4 жыл бұрын

Hey gary.... your worldview is interesting. I like your definitions. By the way, I'm a big fan of The Wizard of Oz.

I wonder what will people in 200 years think about us when view this episode and our unswers, what will they say about our language and thought. We are really primitive.

Could the divine be Kermit the frog

These Christians are better comedians than Jews

@xspotbox4400

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus is same kind of person than old Hebrew God Jehovah, if i spelled that name for God correctly. He sounded like younger version of God that talked to Moses, but more naive and tolerant, like some kind of hippy who gave up on authoritarian managing of Earth, because reasons.

If God knows that he exist then I think that would give him personhood. If he didn't have personhood wouldn't he be lacking the knowledge that knows his constitutional position of being supreme?

Imagination - Process of Pure Creation The process of creation starts with thought - an idea, conception, visualization. Everything you see was once someone's idea. Nothing exists in your world that did not first exist as pure thought. This is true of the universe as well. Thought is the first level of creation. Next comes the word. Everything you say is a thought expressed. It is creative and sends forth creative energy into the universe. Words are more dynamic (thus, some might say more creative) than thought, because words are a different level of vibration from thought. They disrupt (change, alter, affect) the universe with greater impact. Words are the second level of creation. Next comes action. Actions are words moving. Words are thoughts expressed. Thoughts are ideas formed. Ideas are energies come together. Energies are forces released. Forces are elements existent. Elements are particles of God, portions of ALL, the stuff of everything. The beginning is God. The end is action. Action is God creating - or God experienced. Hang on. There's one thing more I have to tell you. You are always seeing what by your terms you would define as the "past," even when you are looking at what is right in front of you. I am? It is impossible to see The Present. The Present "happens," then turns into a burst of light, formed by energy dispersing, and that light reaches your receptors, your eyes, and it takes time for it to do that. All the while the light is reaching you, life is going on, moving forward. The next event is happening while the light from the last event is reaching you. The energy burst reaches your eyes, your receptors send that signal to your brain, which interprets the data and tells you what you are seeing. Yet that is not what is now in front of you at all. It is what you think you are seeing. That is, you are thinking about what you have seen, telling yourself what it is, and deciding what you are going to call it, while what is happening "now" is preceding your process, and awaiting it. To put this simply, I am always one step ahead of you. My God, this is unbelievable. Now listen. The more distance you place between your Self and the physical location of any event, the further into the "past" that event recedes. Place yourself a few light-years back, and what you are looking at happened very, very long ago, indeed. Yet it did not happen "long ago." It is merely physical distance which has created the illusion of "time," and allowed you to experience your Self as being both "here, now" all the while you are being "there, then"! One day you will see that what you call time and space are the same thing. Then you will see that everything is happening right here, right now. This is....this is....wild. I mean, I don't know what to make of all this. When you understand what I have told you, you will understand that nothing you see is real. You are seeing the image of what was once an event, yet even that image, that energy burst, is something you are interpreting. Your personal interpretation of that image is called your image-ination. And you can use your imagination to create anything. Because - and here is the greatest secret of all - your image-ination works both ways. Please? You not only interpret energy, you create it. Imagination is a function of your mind, which is one-third of your three-part being. In your mind you image something, and it begins to take physical form. The longer you image it (and the more OF you who image it), the more physical that form becomes, until the increasing energy you have given it literally bursts into light, flashing an image of itself into what you call your reality. You then "see" the image, and once again decide what it is. Thus, the cycle continues. This is what I have called The Process. This is what YOU ARE. You ARE this Process. This is what I have meant when I have said, you are both the Creator and the Created. I have now brought it all together for you. We are concluding this dialogue, and I have explained to you the mechanics of the universe, the secret of all life. Okay. Now as energy coalesced, it becomes, as I said, very concentrated. But the further one moves from the point of this concentration, the more dissipated the energy becomes. The "air becomes thinner." The aura fades. The energy never completely disappears, because it cannot. It is the stuff of which everything is made. It's All There Is. Yet it can become very, very thin, very subtle - almost "not there." Then, in another place (read that, another part of Itself) it can again coalesce, once more "clumping together" to form what you call matter, and what "looks like" a discreet unit. Now the two units appear separate from each other, and in truth there is no separation at all. This is, in very, very simple and elementary terms, the explanation behind the whole physical universe. Wow. But can it be true? How do I know I haven't just made this all up? Your scientists are already discovering that the building blocks of all of life are the same. They brought back rocks from the moon and found the same stuff they find in trees. They take apart a tree and find the same stuff they find in you. I tell you this: We are all the same stuff. (I and the Father are One Energy) We are the same energy, coalesced, compressed in different ways to create different forms and different matter. Nothing "matters" in and of itself. That is, nothing can become matter all by itself. Jesus said, "Without the Father, I am nothing." The Father of all is pure thought. This is the energy of life. This is what you have chosen to call Absolute Love. This is the God and the Goddess, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. It is the All-in-All, the Unmoved Mover, the Prime Source. It is that which you have sought to understand from the beginning of time. The Great Mystery, the Endless Enigma, the Eternal Truth. There is only One of Us, and so, it is THAT WHICH YOU ARE.

If the universe can create little creatures that think... the universe itself therefore has to be way smarter to be able to create such things. I dont know why it is so hard for many to comprehend 😂

@markcoleman8236

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo. It's not hard to understand. We are products if infinity. Why wouldn't the infinite be concious of what it's creating.

@bastianrivero

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Coleman it wouldn’t make sense otherwise (to us human thinking creatures at least) 👍🏼👏🏼

God has many faces and many personas. In fact, God is all faces and all personas. God has many eyes and sees out of all eyes, God is very personal and very impersonal. It is God typing these words and it is God reading them. And God is a rock, and God is an Einstein, an idiot and a genius, a saint and a sinner. What is God not? There is only God.