Can Sire Make Good Passive Basses? - Sire V5R, P5R & V3P
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I think the R stands for rosewood
@abouc
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe roasted?
@seancca
Жыл бұрын
yeah I am pretty sure that is the case too.
@seancca
Жыл бұрын
@@abouc no because the regular P5 is a roasted maple neck and board.
@carmineanastasio
Жыл бұрын
According to the Sire site, “R” represents rosewood.
@zacharter
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the other P5 model with a rosewood fingerboard is also labeled P5R
just bought my first musical instrument ever. A Sire V5 Alder natural 4 string. Super excited to dive in and learn.
@davejones7475
Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy for you! Hey I'm somewhere around 1,000 year's old and been playing Bass for about 900 years. LoL. You make an awesome choice!
@thebassrogue
Жыл бұрын
You made a good choice for first bass! It's solid performance and I really want to get the P5 cause I'm after more of an old timey kinda tone
I prefer passive. It gives you a more neutral starting point to shape your sound. Nothing against active, different tools for different applications. These look amazing for the price -- excellent playing.
@nishy4ever
Жыл бұрын
💯
@emiki6
11 ай бұрын
But you can switch the active ones to passive as well.
I picked up a sire p5 a few weeks ago and I can't get over how awesome and incredible this bass is. The roasted maple rolled neck, the surf green just brings me joy every time I play it, and that's every day.
@meappleby1
Жыл бұрын
I used to tell everyone how great of a bass it is for the money. Now I just say it's a great bass regardless of price. Truly an amazing bass
Great musical playing from Lee, as always 👍
Just ordered the V3P...in satin red no less. I couldn't not after watching you have such a blast playing it. At nearly 60 years it'll be my first bass...my first instrument period actually. Been wanting to learn the electric bass since first hearing the Barnie Miller theme song in the 70s.
I got the old v5 5 strings when one popped up. Beautiful wood, amazing sound. Yes, I would have preferred an active one, but waiting times were insane and… just the looks was amazing. Looking forward to watching this.
Gorgeous playing as always!
I've always preferred passive basses. Mainly cause I'm lazy and can't be bothered with the battery even though I would only need to change it like once every 6 months.
@alastor1052
Жыл бұрын
This exactly, I have an ibanez EHB1005 with the EQ in there but I choose to run it passive because I am too lazy changing the battery every 2 months, I play the damn thing so much
@The404Erorr
Жыл бұрын
@alastor1052 I have the exact same bass and you're right its just a extra hassel, I use my basses in recording situations only so my need for changing batteries varies but honestly... I can't be bothered.
@alastor1052
Жыл бұрын
@@The404Erorr nah you're absolutely right. It does sound pretty killer in passive mode still so I don't need the active EQ
@M.Holland
Жыл бұрын
never changed the battery in like 2 years. and I'm a daily player for several hours. it's just sometimes that I think: yeah, maybe i should change the battery just o be sure. never head an a Active bass gone out of power.
@alastor1052
Жыл бұрын
@@M.Holland Not sure how big your active circuit is inside your bass but the Ibanez EHB1005 has a 3 band EQ with a sweepable mid control. The first time my battery ran out I decided to open up the back cavity to take a look at the circuitry and found something resembling a Raspberry Pi computer in there. The circuit is huge, and so is its need for batteries :)
I just go a V5 Fretless 5 string a week ago today, and I'm in love. THE NECK IS THE BEST I'VE EVER PLAYED. If I were to get a fretted Sire, it would be an 8 series or dx, V or P as they look and sound amazing.
Crazy how good these sound for the money. That P5 sounds fantastic
The "R" is for rosewood fretboard to distinguish the R versions from the maple fretboard versions. Good video of these great value sounding value for money bases - my next bass is a Marcus Miller Sire for definite!
Got a P8 5 Strings and absolutely love it.
R4rosewood !! Just received my V5R5 and maaaan forget about your Fender and any offer fancy brands...it's now sire all way long !! Fekin love it 🤘❤️
These are amazing.
That P looks super nice!
The R stands for rosewood. And that V3 sounds fantastic
I stuck a John East J-tone01 preamp in my V5. Happy days.
He seems so nervous on his own lol. Reminds me of Spud's interview scene on Trainspotting.
the R is for Rosewood. Previous Sire basses had roasted maple fingerboards (and necks). Also, Sire already made passive basses, the P5 and the D5 in the Precision bass range (I have the D5 since April 2022 and it's amazing). You even made a video about the Sire D5 7 months ago...
I think the R refers to the rosewood fretboard. Most sires have roasted maple fretboards but these ones don't.
@michaelpatrina6183
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@jammyd33
Жыл бұрын
how does rosewood compare to maple on a bass?
@thisisthendgame
Жыл бұрын
@@jammyd33 honestly i'm not sure i think the darker woods tend to be warmer in tone but idk don't quote me on that
@guidorusso60.
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
Sounds good, I'm interested in the 5 string version, I'd like to try one out!
I've had 4 sires... Killa basses... The V5 (5 sting passive) is good, I still prefer the V7 vintage (4 string active). The fretless is also really high quality with a super slick ebony board.... The finish of all of them is amazing... I've owned heaps of basses over the years, like custom shop fenders that included the 5 string Marcus Miller signature bass, German Warwick's, Spector's, prestige SDGRs, American CIJ and MIM fenders. But My V7 vintage is my favourite bass off all time.. I got a super light one. I will never sell it... I havn't liked the sound of the P versions so much though. But they play great..
I just got the EastCoast MB4, love it so far. Just learnt a Rammstein song. Still trying to learn what EQ controls are best for what I need.
Of course they can. The bones of the MM bases are just fine the rest is just the electronics which are fine in the passive guitars.
Sire should also launch M8, with roasted neck
the rosewood really make a DIFFERECE JEEZ!!
I hope there's going to be left handed options, the P5r looks amazing
14:00 we need bobblehead Lee as an available option when purchasing a bass from Anderton's 😁
Love Lee, great player and personality, but is anyone else missing his banter with Nathan???
Can't wait unti the 5 string V5 in natural finish is back in stock
Dare I say that my Sire P5R is the most comfortable, and my favorite bass that I’ve ever owned? Great bass.
@mjolnircarlssen4211
Жыл бұрын
@@donke1165 -I’m afraid that I don’t know.
13:20 while the wood makes a difference, compared to the v5 line it looks like the v3's bridge pickup is closer to the neck pickup. So in a 60's jazz bass configuration, rather than the 70's jazz bass style of the v5. So it would seem that the v3 is a passive version of the v7 and the v5r a passive version of the sire v8 as far as pickup configuration goes? Never noticed that before, interesting
I most of the times don't using preamp anyway... the sound is so good for my purpose (funky - finger) so I don't need preamp. I think preamp is good to get that MM slap sound with lots of nice hi mids
I think the R is for rosewood fingerboard? Nice comparison!
Sounds boss as fu%k to me. I'm not a real bass player, but I've played bass in a couple of bands, and certainly wish I had something approaching the quality of this instrument when I was fighting with the cheapie one I played back in the 90s. The Sire basses that I have played at my local dealer are incredible instruments, great sounding and playing basses.
The “R” is for Rawk! 🤘🏻
I'm pretty sure the Red one has the 60s pickup placement and that's why it sounds so different
Hey Lee, the R, it stands for “rosewood”. I just want to make sure you know that.
Really nice video quality in this video. Anybody from the andertons crew mind answering which camera gear they are using for this video please! Thanks! *Specifically the camera on the close up clips*
I prefer passive basses, I like to shape the tone after with pedals/amp...
I think the "R" stands for "rosewood", since the first "5" models had maple fretboards
R is for rosewood fingerboard.
I have a passive P5. I'm sure the Sire preamps are great, but the sheer playability of a Sire is still stellar. Those roasted necks are just so nice to play too!
@seancca
Жыл бұрын
if yo have a P5 you have no preamp.
@eskilseter
Жыл бұрын
@@seancca I know. That's what passive means
@seancca
Жыл бұрын
@@eskilseter you edited your comment to now make it seem like I can’t read. Real nice.
@eskilseter
Жыл бұрын
@@seancca I edited it for clarity because I realised how you misunderstood me. No insult intended. For the record, it previously said "I'm sure the preamp is great, but [...]".
I think a P5R with flats and a P8 with rounds will be what I’ll end up getting
I'd like to see the new blackstar travel bass
For studio recording purposes would be great a passive bass if you have a class A preamp. V5 seems a good option.
@nicholasriley4729
Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts! I just ordered a passive V5 which I’ll be running into the DI of my Heritage 1073EQ followed by a touch of compression from an 1176 Bluey. 🤩
@kevykev388
Жыл бұрын
Honestly thinking about buying one just for that purpose. I have a Lakland skyline thats horribly but intentionally set up with a mean rasp for live playing. Plus its 3 band. I need a straight ahead passive, quiet jazz for recording. This might be it.
I don't care about how it sounds. You can change that. It's all about playability. And theyre basses are amazing to plau
I thought rosewood time was over… available in US ? Or just Europe ?
i dont know if i should Sell my fender player/MiM jazzbass and get one of these instead, love that they have rosewood and roasted neck + the rolled fretboard edges, block inlays, binding etc mods id do tho are probably pickups and pickguard but its alot cheaper aswell so it might be worth it??? idk bit sad that i bought the fender last year and now recently been more interested in this
Look beautiful, but not sure if the fretboard is real rosewood
Quite a number of name players use passive instruments. Billy Sheehan Tony Franklin I prefer passive basses. No worries about batteries.
@fullhd6598
Жыл бұрын
Geddy Lee Steve Harris
I've just got the v3 3P in red and it s inredible for the price..I already own V3 5strings 2ND gen and it's as good as my fender mexico if not more...even the V3P Ifind it as good as a fender player serie..some features are incredibles for the price, the finish is very clean, the sound is top!! and it came already set up and surprisingly already almost in exact tune justone semi tone below standard tunning..amazing..I own several expensive sbasses but those can rivalise easily...best ratio price/quality ever!!great...and even thou I love my Sire active bass, I always preferred passive ones and the V3 5 is my only active but the preamp is very good!! but nonetheless, I think I prefer the V3 P now!!
@kriko8790
11 ай бұрын
v3p why ?
If Sire would be kind enough to make me a “Franken-bass”, it’d be the v5r in green, active preamp, but with a P pickup in the neck
doesn't the r stand for rosewood - i.e. on the neck?
Honestly, all my basses are either active or have higher output humbuckers. While I like the simplicity (and not having to worry about a battery lives) which you get with passive basses, I tend to find that there is something missing from the sound. I think it may be down to the output levels (driving the pre-amp section of my amplifier) as even keeping the tone in it's neutral position makes a difference for me. As is, the only passive bass I have (that hasn't been modified with an active pre-amp) is my old Epiphone Thunderbird bass.
@jammyd33
Жыл бұрын
I'm considering getting a good bass pre-amp pedal, I think that gives you the best of both worlds and you can DI straight to the desk
Isn’t the r related to the rosewood board instead of the existing P5 which had a roasted maple board ( and is also passive) ?
@robertortmann6012
Жыл бұрын
I think you are right…R for Rare Rosewood😊
tengo un bajo Marcus Miller Sire P5 y por el precio que tiene es increíble, esta muy por encima de squier que seria la gama similar de precio a la altura perfectamente de fender mex
R stands for rosewood
would you go for the V3P or the V5?
R for rosewood.
What amp are you using?
Hey MAn !! P5R..... R means...; rosewood !!?? isn't it ? ;) as usual great demo thnx
I don't have the chance to A/B them but how would you compare the passive only V3s to the normal V3s but in Passive mode? Are the only passive ones better sounding compared to the V3s in passive mode or about the same minus the pre amp?
I thought 'R' was for the rosewood fretboard.
How are the tuners? That is the only complaint I’ve read online. And do they seem different from the v3 to the v5? I’m shopping and that is my only concern as there don’t appear to be any after market tuners that are direct replacements.
@BurntMcgurnt
5 ай бұрын
They're different tuners on the v5 they're much better!
Sire basses can not say enough good things about the company and the people who work for them. the quality and craftsmanship are top notch. their price point they are really given Ibanez as a run for its money.
Would really appreciate a direct comparison between the P5 / P5R to hear any difference between the roasted maple / Rosewood fingerboards😊
"R" its from rosewood fret board
@SQuaresma
Жыл бұрын
@@_Messag__me_mary_spende 🥳👍
I think you guys need pull out the plug cable, how you kill the battery in 2-6 months. ;))
@Infectedbyevil
Жыл бұрын
@Messag__me__AndertonsMusic_Co thanks . But I'm OK;)
thought R was for rosewood
Where are the 5 string versions?
Importen for the V5 is, that the Brige pu is neaer the brige. The only Sire how heave this 70th spacing.
Waiting for 32 inch models…
where's nathan??by the way.
@Flipper-hd6cx
Жыл бұрын
on tour with Level 42 and Frost* I believe
The naming/numbering is difficult to figure out... Lol
I like the sound of the vp3 much better.
R=Rosewood
Sire v3p or g&l tribute jb2?
@marmz8412
Жыл бұрын
I had the V3p in Black for Chritsmas, it's absolutly awesome, I had a Ibanez SR300e before and for just a bit more money the difference is huge, I feel like playing on a premium instrument ( except maybe for the pickup but they're still good, not hard to change is I need too one day ). I've heard good thing from G&L too but the Sire V3p is a monster !
Would anyone happen to know what tone capacitor is in the P5R? .022 or .047? It’s kinda confusing because the standard P5 is a .022, but the V5 standard is .047. Thanks.
Bassy McLoopface!
Does the R not stand for roasted?
💙👊😎
Where’s Nathan these days?
I wish the headstocks weren't so ugly! And the terrible logos! But they sound good! lol.
The problem with most preamps is that most of them set their eqs at specific values, some are sweepable but most are not. So an engineer somewhere has decided that I should have (for example) a low-mid control at 600hz, but they don't know what strings/amp/cabinet I'm using, they don't know what style I'm playing, or what sound I'm trying to get. Probably in some cases they don't even know what specific bass their little preamp is going into. So, with all those variables, any given preamp being suitable for any given player's needs is a total shot in the dark, and I've given up. Nobody needs a preamp that doesn't suit them and I've decided that preamps don't suit me.
@rome8180
Жыл бұрын
The bass and treble bands on your amp also probably aren't sweepable. Most amps I've seen only have a sweepable midrange. Or maybe you have a 10-band graphic EQ, but those also aren't sweepable. So can you explain to me how having fewer fixed bands is somehow preferable? Your argument is that because the EQ bands can't be adjusted exactly how you want them, you'd rather not have them. But you're using exactly the same tool on your amp. You're just making it so you have fewer frequency ranges to choose from. No one is saying you have to use every available EQ band. It's just more options at your disposal.
@rome8180
Жыл бұрын
I own two active and two passive basses. I'm not advocating for one over the other. I'm just saying that your argument makes no sense. You're essentially arguing that because a built-in EQ is imprecise, you'd rather not have it. But then you presumably go on to use the same imprecise tools on your amp. So your argument is essentially that having fewer choices is somehow better. By the way, even if you have fully sweepable EQs on your amp, my argument stands. Taking away three options isn't somehow getting you closer to the tone you need.
Do you think they would do a little research before reviewing them?
I only own passive basses and guitars. Too much output and noise
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only thing I don't like about these sires is the headstock it is so ugly lol
If you want a Pbass tone, where the only tonal variety is through the use of a rather narrow band tone knob, then go for it. It sounds just like a real Pbass. I have a Pbass and can get those tones. I'm so glad I got a Stingray for the greater variety and more modern sound. Pbasses have had their day, they were the kings of many genres of music for many decades. I don't get the attraction anymore, we have high quality mics and amps these days and everything is recorded digitally, idk why you would ever take one into a studio unless you wanted that specific, middly, unbassy sound.
@seancca
Жыл бұрын
because you can get a solid and quick recorded tone that any mix engineer can make to fit the track.
The bassist is very good so, sadly, he’ll made anything sound great.
because active basses sound SHITE, always , Dynamics are poor , top end always sounds nasty as fuck, Passive wins hands down every single time. to much output on an active bass and impedance is all off for most amps, just get a really good Di and you can't go wrong with a passives bass, plus every active bass I've ever had including a Fodera was to noisy . P Bass Wins hands down every time , occasionally a jazz but P is the Daddy
Why would anyone buy a fender copy, just by a squire of you can’t afford a high end fender bass
@partymonkey365
2 ай бұрын
Because they think other brands make better fender instruments than fender does atm. I for one, agree with that sentiment 🤷🏻♂️
This is basically a commercial for both Sire and Anderton’s, so while I appreciate the content, I don’t appreciate having to watch two advertisements before the video will start, and then getting hit with two more advertisements before I even hit the three minute mark of the video… Which of course is also an advertisement lol! No better way to remind me that I don’t need another bass and that I should get off the Internet and practice, so I guess thanks for that.
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