Carr is solid once this new offense clicks watch how the season will play out who dat say !

This idea that Carr isn't a good leader is just bullshit. How many times did Aikman, Kelly, Manning, and Brady get pissed off at their offensive players when they phucked up? They did it often. You guys get pissed when Carr when Carr got upset with Olave, and when he got on his offensive line, but for some strange reason you forgot that he was getting KILLED continually behind that shytty offensive line, and their shytty play led to his injuries. As for Olave, how many times did he go half ass of screw up after Carr got on him?

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

Carr has always worked with his receivers in the offseason, always had a good attitude and no problems with his receivers until this past year with Cancer MT. He just got frustrated early because of the pitiful offensive line and receivers being lost in space, plus he was injured. People forget about Shaheed too. Even though I love him, he did mess up too at times, like turning the wrong way in the end zone that would have resulted in a tying TD against the Texans. Olave also made poor attempts at a couple of long passes in that game. That is when Carr blew up at No Clue Carmichael on the sideline. Carr has been terribly misjudged by this ridiculously negative fan base. I think it’s a combination of a core that wanted Winston to start and a hatred of DA who was seen as the one who got Carr, even though (they forget) it was the beloved Brees and Mannings who were also instrumental in getting Carr here. But Carr, being the consummate professional that he is, called all the receivers and got on the same page with them and finished the season as the hottest QB. They even hated DA for taking up for his QB in the press conference after one of the wins. Really? Isn’t that what a coach is supposed to do - take up for his QB? Some of these fans are really sick.

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

And another thing he was misjudged on by some of the groupthink fans was the notion that they thought he had the attitude that he was coming in as a savior and also what they thought was a big contract. If they would have given Carr a chance and did their homework on him they would know that he was a good Christian guy and he doesn’t have that kind of an attitude. He just wants to win. And they would have also figured out, like I and others tried to tell them, that 150 million 4 year contract was an average QB salary for starting QB’s. But the sheeple did not want to hear it. Carr was the over paid outsider with the Savior complex so they turned on him. So much for “southern hospitality” and “Christian” Louisiana.

@OSSM_trauma

2 ай бұрын

@@pbm8264 😂 Even Jesus had 12 disciples

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

Mostly all that expect to win,Drew too

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

After what little I saw last year DC4 is way better than I thought he was WHODATT

Brees had one coach and one system for 15 years with the Saints. Carr has had 7 coaches in 10 years. He was convinced to come to the Saints by the Mannings and Brees because he was told the Saints were a stable organization with good coaching. Instead, he faced the worst offensive line performance for the first 6 weeks in NFL history, young receivers lost in space for half the year, a sub par OC nicknamed by me as No Clue Carmichael, and no running support. And yet he still carried the Saints from 22 ranked offense to 9, and was the 10th ranked QB for season and #1 ranked for the last 6 weeks. No he is not mid. A mid QB would not have carried the Saints to 9 wins. I’m am so excited to see what Carr will do with an actual NFL OC, as well as QB coach, receivers coach and most importantly OL coach.

@michaelmartin4366

2 ай бұрын

Nice to see a guy with a higher than average IQ than most of the Neanderthals who constantly hate on Carr.

@joeysmith6154

2 ай бұрын

Jeff/Steve I’m w/the first commenter in that Derek was quarterbacking a front office and coaching asylum. It says something about Derek as a man & leader that he survived the chaos w/o major injury and maintained his NFL Starter status. As far as the heat guys follow this retired firefighter’s survival recipe: small personal sized igloo ice chest filled w/ice , add 1 cup of water, 1/3 bottle of Florida Water and a Mission Cooling Towel. Do not drink !!! Sponge/wipe on cool off.

@LilRedRasta

2 ай бұрын

Perhaps Carr is oen of the reasons why his coaches always got fired. Empty stat warrior Carr. He'll get you to the 50, but he has no idea what to do beyond that point.

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@LilRedRasta Nope. That’s another lie everyone keeps on repeating. DA was fired 4 games into his rookie year. In 2016, he led the Raiders to a 12-3 record and was an MVP candidate before breaking his leg. That offseason, his offensive coordinator was fired. The following year, his head coach was fired. Then Gruden came in with a complete team rebuild. His #1 receiver in 2019 was the almost 40 year old Jordy Nelson. The defense in 2020 was historically bad, giving up over 30 points a game average and had less sacks and turnovers than the 1982 Lions. No team who had a defense that averaged more than 30 points a game has ever won more than 5 games. The Raiders won 8 that year with Carr. In 2021, SF offered two #1 draft picks as well as a #2 and #3 for Carr and Gruden turned them down. SF went on to draft Trey Lance 3rd overall who was a bust. The Raiders started the season as a top 3 offense. Then after 5 games Gruden happened. Then Ruggs happened. But Carr still rallied his team with an interim head coach and Zay Jones as his #1 receiver to win the last four games to make the playoffs and kicked Wonder Boy Hebert out the playoffs his last game and should have beat Second Coming Burrow in the playoffs had they had better officiating. Then Bright Mark fires the interim head coach and hires McDummy as his next coach. Then McDummy lets Carr go for no draft picks. I guarantee you that had Carr had the same coach and system like Walk on Water Brees had for his entire career with the Saints, that he and Carr would have comparable numbers, and Carr’s may have been better, because Carr has better arm talent and arm strength than Brees, plus as Underhill pointed out Carr has a higher 3 step back pass completion percentage than Brees had and that was Brees’ specialty.

@LilRedRasta

2 ай бұрын

@@pbm8264 1 year doesn't buck the trend

The Carr attitude was coming from Mike Thomas and j. Winston. DA took care of the problem

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

That’s right! Equalizer DA erased MT Bricks and Don’t Listen Winston.

Carr blowing up was way out of character! Never seen him do it as a Raider!

@jacobrodgers-xo4if

2 ай бұрын

100%. I used to get frustrated how he’d always take the blame with the Raiders when you knew other guys were to blame. Especially the his final year in Vegas when you just knew he wanted to blame McDaniels. That’s how I knew he was pissed at this Saints team and guys must have really been screwing up their assignments. I often heard it said that his football mind is his greatest strength so you could see his frustration in guys not being where he expected them to be

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@jacobrodgers-xo4if. Yep. Thanks for y’all comments. The Bugatti has always had a great attitude, was always the hardest worker and the first one at the facility every morning and always worked with his receivers in the offseason. But these silly fans didn’t want to hear that. He’s not Walk on Water Brees and since they hate DA and DA recruited him, the first sign of trouble and under the bus Carr went being pushed by the good ole Christian southern hospitality folk. And God forbid when DA took up for his QB at the press conference after a good game. I mean the nerve of DA. Who ever heard of a coach defending his QB? Some of these “fans” are really sick.

Thanks for trying to push against what Steve called the mob mentality against Carr. I’ve been calling it groupthink. Whatever you call it, it is quite embarrassing that the fans would turn on Carr like this. And because of their hatred of Carr, they are jumping on the Rattler bandwagon, as Jeff says, despite him not even playing a down in the NFL. I’ve been talking to a friend at the gym about the Saints and in previous conversations he admitted he only follows the Saints when they are winning. But last time, he was all gleamy eyed talking about Rattler and saying he might be starting by mid season. Him being a casual fan indicates that he is just repeating what he is hearing from others. He, like many, have been bitten by the Rattler Bug, which is my new nickname for him.

Hell yeah taking back Sunday! No need to excuse your appearance… this just became my favorite podcast 😂

@WWLsports

2 ай бұрын

I got one! Best show I’ve been to in a while (and I just saw Rolling Stones at Jazz Fest). Favorite part was when they apologized that they had to play songs off their new album because they were well aware the crowd would’ve been happier if they just played the first three albums straight through 😂

@mattmaldo86

2 ай бұрын

@@WWLsports that’s high praise 😂… they always put on an amazing show tho. Might be biased because they’ve been my favorite band since 2004 but it is what it is! Glad you had a good time bro! The new album is actually really good, better than a lot of stuff they’ve put out after the first 3. The most epic part of their shows is always the crowd singing “why can’t I feel anything …” haha

I support Carr. That’s wat a real fan does. Support ur players and team. The problem is everyone got spoiled by Brees and how amazing he was and compare every QB we have to him and that’s unfair. Carr is good enough to get us to playoffs and further. Give the new offensive scheme a chance. Give Carr a chance. People so quick to write him off after 1 season and that’s just stupid. The last month of last season shows enough that he can win games and be a top 15 qb in the league. His numbers were not bad at all considering the guy played hurt most the season.. be a real fan base and support ur QB Who Dat Nation..WHO DAT!?! ⚜️⚜️⚜️

Carr impressed me playing through a few different injuries. That couldn't have been easy. To me though, if Carr gets rattled in a game, he has a really hard time recovering. During the Falcons game (1st ATL game), Bruce Irving made a sack on him. Irving had played with Carr at the Raiders and the commentator mentioned that Irving knew if Atlanta could hit him enough, he'd go into the tank. Hopefully the Saints running game is much improved and Carr doesn't have to press as much?

The sooner the Saints start Rattler the better it will be for them moving foward! 💯

If you compare Jameis's footwork pre Saints to the time SP put him on the field, you can clearly see hes a QB with his confidence rocked. SP messed up and didn't let Jameis loose. Yes, he would have lost some games with his reckless style, but he would have put the team in a better position to win others. Just watch Jameis will come in mid season for the Browns once Deshaun falls flat, and he will take them to the playoffs just like Flacco did.

Carr, Cousins and Baker are so close in skill/talent as are their teams. It's gonna come down to a few plays and injury luck for South crown

Carr is a bargain. Saints fans didn’t realize the team really was a 7-10 team. Not one player from a super bowl

Baker Mayfield took a nine win team and won nine game. A big hit in Tampa

48:15 Is the wisest thing every fan should hear

@WWLsports

2 ай бұрын

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Totally disagree on the Sean Payton take!! As a life long SAINTS fan that remembers the Archie Manning days, the Danny Wuerffel helmet backwards days, I will always be indebted to Payton for delivering us a Super Bowl!! He was with us for 15 years! I think both sides needed a change! We should show our gratitude before game and then boo like crazy during game!!

@WWLsports

2 ай бұрын

Fair enough, but the dude still walked out on the team he built.

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@WWLsports. And Bong Sean (my new nickname for him) was caught on film smoking a bong with his son. Really dude? And you want to be respected? That may explain the prunish attitude. What a piece of work he is.

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@WWLsports And Bong Sean (my new nickname for him) was seen on video smoking a bong with his son. Really dude? And you want to be respected? How long has that been going on? That may explain the prunish attitude and questionable decisions.

@justinpasquale1808

2 ай бұрын

@@WWLsportsI agree he turned his back on us ( Saints Nation) because Brees left. I honestly think he left cus he didn’t have Brees anymore. That’s ok tho cus we gonna show him on a Thursday night this year he made a mistake leaving!

I would really like to hear what this guy was saying about Winston and see if he kept the same energy hmm I could probably guess

Jeff there are videos of Derek Carr preaching about how God put him in NOLA to help "save the city" and he even referenced the voodoo. I have a feeling that doesn't sit well with a lot of fans.

After a decade of Drew Brees, could any QB satisfy this fan base?

@michaelmartin4366

2 ай бұрын

Not really unless there was a good team built around the QB. The problem for Carr is that the OL sucks ass, and the receiving corps are average at best.

@justinpasquale1808

2 ай бұрын

That’s wat I don’t get. People stuck in Brees days.. Carr is best thing we have had at QB since Brees and yet it’s still a big problem for everyone. I’m bout sick and tired of these so called “saints fans “ not sticking by their QB that actually gives them the best chance to win. Mind blowing..🤯

@LilRedRasta

2 ай бұрын

Yes one who's YOUNG, mid but with upside, doesn't choke in the red zone, and doesn't cost 150m. I'd rather suck and get a high draft pick looking for THE guy, than be stuck in this continuous mediocre loop. Find yourself a stroud, or a herbert, hurts, purdy, burrow etc.

@justinpasquale1808

2 ай бұрын

@@LilRedRasta who wud that be right now?

Blaming other people isn’t leadership. But Carr blames other people.

My newest nickname is for Carr - The Bugatti And we already had Spencer Rattler’s nickname - The Rattler Bug. I know some of you Saints fans drink too much and maybe do drugs like your former coach Bong Sean, so let me explain. The Bugatti is one of the most rarest and expensive cars in the world. It fits because Carr has rare elite arm talent and it’s a dig to those who always cry about his expensive “150 million dollar contract.” Many of the silly Saints fans are enamored by the 5th round pick and have lost all reasonable thinking and hope he will be starting by mid season. They are infected with the Rattler Bug. The Bugatti being unleashed in 2024 is the only anecdote for The Rattler Bug. It will cure you and in 3 years the Rattler Bug will be traded to another team.

There are only so many top tier QBs. Carr is an avg QB in the teens. He looked solid at the end of the year basically because of the adjustments in play-calling. Play-calling was putrid at the beginning of the year. I stopped watching 1/3 way in the season because I couldn't handle the offense!

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

DC4 is way better than average.He proved to me he’s damn good,after all the crap he put up with last season and finished the way he did😂😂😂he’s may be golden.The game the Raiders beat the breaks off the Saints with #9,I knew then he was good but last season proved it for me.He’s my dude GO SAINTS WHODATT

@tracys2354

2 ай бұрын

@@davidsellers3639 So where do you rank him? number wise.

Carr's had ample time & opportunity to prove he is more than mediocre.....and?

@WWLsports

2 ай бұрын

Yea, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You're legitimately not saying anything, basically just a game of angry mad libs at this point.

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@WWLsports. Yep it really is quite embarrassing, especially being from Louisiana.

@michaelmartin4366

2 ай бұрын

He is a damn good QB. If you can't understand that, that's your problem.

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelmartin4366 Oh they do have a problem the way they have treated and misjudged Carr. It kind of makes you wonder how are they in everyday life if they are that angry and judgmental over a proven veteran QB. If they are that quick to jump on the negative Carr bandwagon, what other things do they do in their personal lives?

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

He has WHODATT

Fans are mad because the Coach makes excuses for Derek Carr that he does not make for anyone else. Stop being tone deaf

carr haters are losers lol.

I liked Drew Bree’s. You guys over rate him by a lot. He was good. We will see if he makes the hall of fame

@WWLsports

2 ай бұрын

I’m not sure if this is a joke or not. He’s going to be a unanimous first-ballot Hall of Famer. There’s really no question.

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂WHODATT

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

😂😂I can’t imagine if the internet was around when Bobby played 😂😂CAJUN CANNON ROCKS😂😂

Kamara has a attitude problem himself

OMG...wat a bunch of cry babys!! Get over it already....CARR HAD ISSUES HARD TIMES LAST SEASON....WHY? he's use to playing BALL with MEN with FIGHTERS ...THE RAIDERS! SAINTS HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT WHINING CRY BABYS! who cares about his money ...pay attention to the fools on field acting immaturely MT ,CO , JW! Carr is one person out of wat? The other 57 players... CARR won the saints 9 games 2023 .. 2022 SAINTS WON 7 GAMES! HE PLAYED HURT WITH NO SUPPORT FROM FANS OR PLAYERS ! FINALLY , CARR SHOWED SKILLS LAST 5 GAMES OF THE SEASON WON 4. AND ENDED THE SEASON 9/8 TO ME , THATS IMPROVEMENT! WAT MORE DID THEY WANT FIRST YEAR? MAYBE THIS SEASON THE OTHER PLAYERS ON THE TEAM WILL WORK WITH CARR AND WIN THE PLAYOFFS! ' NEW ORLEANS' ONE PLAYER CANT DO IT ALL ... GET OVER IT! SUPPORT THE QB AND SHOW RESPECT! BE REAL FANS , AND BE POSSITIVE! STOP THE BOOOOS , THE DRAMA,THE NEGATIVITY! Ooh and DNT forget Carr is there to play ball .... BUT WILL FOREVER BE A R*A*I*D*E*R...!!!!!

I don’t like Carr!! I believe he was a bad leader last year!! But Scott Shanle is right whether we want to hear it or not!!

@michaelmartin4366

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like you got your panties on a wad when in comes to Carr.

I usually don't comment but I have to on this Derek Carr situation. Derek Carr is a known loser. He has been in the league 10 years and never won anything. How many more prove it years does he get. I would rather lose with a rookie QB and get a top five pick then stay stuck in the middle of the draft. Which fan base should feel better Washington and Chicago or New Orleans? We already know he will miss the playoffs or will lose a wildcard game. Drew Brees gave us hope to win a championship Derek Carr will never win a title so why keep him?

@TheStacanova

2 ай бұрын

No offense, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Matthew Stafford was in the NFL for 13 years prior to “Winning Anything”. Brees played in and won ONE Superbowl, that’s it, in how many seasons? Carr’s only played 10 seasons, he only has to make it to and win ONE Superbowl to equal Drew Brees as a “Winner”, let’s see if he CAN do it, before deciding he CANNOT. Heck, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco & Nick Foles did it, so you can’t say that Carr can’t.

@MrLasboor

2 ай бұрын

I'm a raider fan and I'm telling you were a joke bc of a stupid owner the raider died with Al unless proven otherwise derek was the only bright spot is he prime Brady no but he cab give u a chance to win Green Bay loses was not on dc

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@TheStacanova. Yea that’s another repeat after me foolishness that Carr can’t win the Super Bowl with the Saints. When Carr threw that TD to Graham in the Panthers game I started screaming, “Yea! That’s my quarterback!” After the game, a guy in front of me started talking to me about Carr and asked if I thought Carr could win the Super Bowl with the Saints. He was nice and we had a civil discussion, but that just goes to show you the common narrative these people had. Carr can’t win the Super Bowl. Carr is getting paid too much. Carr is mid. Carr is not a leader. Carr is coming in here thinking he is the savior.

@chadsamuel7183

2 ай бұрын

Guys yes there have been outliers that average QB's have won the Superbowl. But when you have an elite QB you feel like you have a chance to compete for a Superbowl every year. Does anybody really feel like Derek Carr can lead a Superbowl team also history agrees with my point only one playoff win. Joe Brady took Cincy to a Superbowl with a bad offense line. How many years did Brees carry us with a pour defense. Tom Brady got 6 rings in New England without a great receiving core. Yes if everything was perfect and we had hall of famers at every other position Derek Carr might be a winner. But the reality is the Defense is aging and the Offense line is questionable at best.

@pbm8264

2 ай бұрын

@@chadsamuel7183 But Carr is an elite QB. He’s just never had the team to support him. He had that one time in 2016 when he was an MVP candidate before he broke his leg and in 2021 before the woke NFL took his coach away and he still rallied his team to win the last 4 games to make the playoffs, kicking out Wonder Boy Hebert in the process and should have beaten Burrow in the playoffs if it wasn’t for terrible officiating. You people have no perspective. You just follow what the media and crowd tells you. Burrow is not all that either. He had a big drop off last year even before his injury and despite being in the same system since the start. I like Allen but he is an interception machine. They told us Hurts was the Second Coming but he fell off last year after teams had some film on him. Mahomes had a down year and had a lower QBR than Carr. And Brady almost always had a top 10 defense and coaches cheating for him so he can get home field advantage in the worst division for 15 years and barely win 3 point Super Bowls. Bottom line is every QB messes up at times but when Carr does it it’s magnified and when others do it it’s ignored. I would put Carr’s arm talent and QB smarts up against any QB in the league.

Carr was simply not a good fit for the Saints last season. It was a foolish move by the Saints front office to sign him. Fans understand this and are justifiably upset. It’s not Carr‘s fault that he couldn’t live up to expectations, but the fans negativity is understandable despite the late season improvement in Carr‘s stats.

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

Know one has been for years it’s because of line play on both sides.DC4 is a great QB,Saints are fortunate to have him.He will shine much brighter this season WHODATT

@milesfromneworleans

2 ай бұрын

Carr is not the kind of pinpoint passer you need for a „Saints-style“ offense. His release is a little to slow as are his reads. He tends to hold on to the ball too long in the pocket, which makes his offensive line look worse than it is. In a word he is FAR from being an elite player in 2024.

CARRBAGE IS 🗑️

@davidsellers3639

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

The saints need a new quarterback period!