The biggest issue is that hydrogen is like a ghost, it sometimes decides that actually walls are kinda limiting and goes through anyway.

@nikanora97

Ай бұрын

Sure, but it is a non issue if you have good materials, also, leakage over like a month is minimal

@user-jj6qe1yx6s

Ай бұрын

@@nikanora97 you'd need insulation (like seen on orange rockets), and that, on top of all the tech associated with storing a liquid at -253 C result in high cost and maintenance requirements. Also, the slow leaking is a problem not because of wastage, but because hydrogen REALLY likes to explode, so massive safety hazard.

@nikanora97

Ай бұрын

@@user-jj6qe1yx6s I mean I do think that pressurised hydrogen is the way to go to be fair. Cars that have that have really good range. The liquid nitrogen is challenging in logistics and other things aswell

@cuindro

Ай бұрын

Nasa sometimes uses hydrogen as fuel and they always reschedule the launch because of hydrogen leaks. 😢 Also hydrogen is lighest element. ​@@nikanora97

@amiller112

Ай бұрын

@@user-jj6qe1yx6s It leaks slowly, and as a gas it disperses very quickly.

Since achieving -253°C in a car is very easy, we can hope to see this in production next year

@ProCoder11996

Ай бұрын

Sarcastic joke

@random_cocaine4667

Ай бұрын

Morty where we are going we don't need -253°c morty , once this baby hits 88 mph , you're going to see low effecency bar on the spedometer

@savneetsinghrairai6823

Ай бұрын

😅😅😅 a time bomb

@XB10001

Ай бұрын

​@@random_cocaine4667efficiency, speedometer.

@grantjones8690

Ай бұрын

You don’t need to store hydrogen cold. You can just pressurize it to 10,000psi in a very heavy tank……wait..never mind🤔

"No carbon emissions" The giant hydrogen isolation plant:

@ZZactionwow

18 күн бұрын

"No carbon emissions" 60-80% of powerplants:

@mattty7898

13 күн бұрын

We actually already have the technology to produce hydrogen instead of natural gas in wells, completely without CO2 emissions. Hydrogen is the future, not these hyper-polluting electric cars.

@yesveryyoutube6354

13 күн бұрын

You mean nuclear power plant?

@ObamaTron

13 күн бұрын

@@yesveryyoutube6354 Any hydrogen fuel will have to be produced from water likely through electrolysis, which would take far more energy than burning the fuel could produce. Such inefficiency could never be supported by sustainable energy.

@schwarzerritter5724

12 күн бұрын

If I don't see the fossil fuel getting burned, it does not get burned. Hydrogen, and for that matter EV, advocates have the object permanence of toddlers.

as a dude in heat transfer, let me explain this. liquid hydrogen is at about -250 degree C. The combustion chamber is at about a few hundreds degrees. This huge temperature difference makes it naturally bad for exchanging energy. And, if you know there is a doping process in semiconductor fabrication, hydrogen atoms can do that too, moving into the solid structures and destroying their mechanical properties.

@treymiller5736

21 күн бұрын

That’s a good point. Only thing that really came to my mind though is why even do this to began with. Hydrogen fuel cells are already over the 50-60% efficiency mark in practice. But the standard engine design only gets 52% in theory and like 20-30% in practice so what’s even the point?

@juemean5824

20 күн бұрын

@@treymiller5736 Powerplants have near limit efficiency, which is due to its low surface area/volume rate (size matters :)). So, if you directly burn hydrogen in powerplants, it will still have a higher efficiency than the hydrogen fuel cell. My guess for that hydrogen fuel cell is that it cannot have enough conversion speed to satisfy driving energy consumption. You can increase the efficiency by using cataclysms in these fuel cells. But it usually limits the size and conversion speed of the fuel cell since you need large surface areas for thorough contact and some reaction time.

@Orthaluminox

12 күн бұрын

Amen to that!

@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor

4 күн бұрын

​@@treymiller5736 in fact the very same Toyota company that's researching the use of hydrogen in combustion engines is also investing on fuel cell cars like the Mirai. One problem of fuel cells is they need expensive materials.

@idiotidiot5821

2 күн бұрын

Nice

"yo what type of fuel tank do you have?" "Fridge."

@ShoaibKhan-gr3kx

Ай бұрын

Freezer

@dallaswinston8260

Ай бұрын

​@@ShoaibKhan-gr3kx delete urs his is better

@exakelgaming

Ай бұрын

good. it can keep my groceries chilled on the way home.

@Bsegars1

Ай бұрын

@@dallaswinston8260 Nah

@dallaswinston8260

Ай бұрын

@@Bsegars1 yah it is DELETE UR COMMENT

"Its just a steam engine?" "always has been"

@albinocake

Ай бұрын

Bro thought this is a steam engine

@supersonic4863

Ай бұрын

@@albinocake nuclear is also just a steam engine

@victorykingpin3674

Ай бұрын

​@@albinocake Lil bro thought he was gonna do smn

@tanaka-kun6388

Ай бұрын

@@albinocake blud has 500 iq x 0

@mile4844

Ай бұрын

@@albinocake got evaporated on this one bro XD

the internal combustion engine does not need saving. at least not until you can make an engine that runs on a power source as energy dense as gasoline, and as easy to store and refill the vehicle.

@brenscott5416

4 күн бұрын

Exactly. The combustion engine still has better performance, range, and price than any other type of engine we can put in a car

Toyota: in 2025-26 we will be releasing a uranium 232 car. Never again will you have to get out to fill up the tank. Each rod is good for 80 years. Also don’t crash or you will unleash the unholy sun upon us.

@smolpener7430

7 күн бұрын

A method by which nuclear electricity could be produced is a space the size of a consumer vehicle, in quantities significant enough to operate said vehicle, is currently speculative at best.

@Hilmemes669

5 күн бұрын

HAHAHAHAHA

@TamCloncey

5 күн бұрын

This would still be better for the environment than these "electric" cars.

@bigbully1277

3 күн бұрын

You wouldn’t get any explosive fission from a nuclear powered car. Just nice warm stream of highly cancerous gamma rays. That’s if the Uranium rods got the ability to breath fresh air.

@skeetrix5577

2 күн бұрын

ah yes the forbidden sun rofl

All fun and games until you crash and your car becomes a pipe bomb. 💣

@alaska_adventures49

Ай бұрын

Gas explodes and burns too but yea

@bassman_0074

Ай бұрын

@@alaska_adventures49it’s not under pressure, ready to vaporize at any moment.

@alaska_adventures49

Ай бұрын

@@bassman_0074 oh yeah, good point

@punto_88

Ай бұрын

its not pressurized so it will just leak out

@AlexDobbs

Ай бұрын

@yugo_tv8433 liquid gas is inherently pressurized when put in a container above the evaporation temp of the liquid. When hydrogen leaks out, it will do so with immense pressure, and if it contacts a flame or spark, it will explode.

As someone who used to be a big science nerd but has forgotten most of it…. A large liquid hydrogen tank in your car sounds like one of the most comedically dangerous things I could imagine

@BigSmokeRailfanning

Ай бұрын

Liquid hydrogen tanks in cars are basically creating Hindenburgs on wheels

@DrArkham.

Ай бұрын

CNG is the same thing, and has been used for years lol.

@user-uh6kq2wh9g

Ай бұрын

Believe it or not, It's a lot safer than having a gas tank in your car. These fuels, gas or hydrogen need BOTH fuel and oxygen to burn. As nature of hydrogen being very light and volatile, the time window of having right fuel to air mixture is very tight compared to gasoline.

@eriktenhag2022

Ай бұрын

​@@DrArkham.And CNGs don't explode? Lol

@eriktenhag2022

Ай бұрын

​@@user-uh6kq2wh9gyou're comparing a tank that does NOT store gasoline in a pressurized environment vs HIGHLY pressurized liquid hydrogen bring stored at close to absolute zero. You need a spark or someone manually igniting the gasoline for it to catch fire, with hydrogen it's a double whammy. I don't want a hindenberg roaming around in my neighborhood no thank you.

Your silly driving was the best bit and the only piece of information i absorbed

I might be working on these in the near future. If anyone is interested UNOH has an alternate fuels program!

Man, I bet that video would be super interesting if i had an attention span longer than my cat

@EngineeringExplained

Ай бұрын

Just give it a watch, and then take a 6 hour nap - cat approved!

@Wiisporter

Ай бұрын

@@EngineeringExplained jokes aside I'll probably watch later, love your channel and would subscribe but I'm at the sub limit for KZread 💀💀 have a good day man

@Life_42

Ай бұрын

​@@Wiisporter I didn't know there was a sub limit. How much?

@Wiisporter

Ай бұрын

@@Life_42 it's about 1k? I had like 50 subbed to me but then my channel got deleted so I got rammed to the limit. To go higher you need like 30 subs

@allkindofvideosforyou

Ай бұрын

​@@Wiisporter I encountered the same limit, but after a while, it got removed/Expanded Now i am omw to sub to the absolute limit 😅

I can't wait to pay $27 per gallon thank you

That tank temperature n that decompress cylinder it's the biggest challenge, comes along with stability & safety measures.

Hindenburg car.

@CyanRooper

Ай бұрын

OH THE HUMANITY!

@fikriarieska8450

Ай бұрын

Those re heliuns

@matthewschreiber1875

Ай бұрын

(I know this is about toyota but)... Hondaburg

@dominatewest25ytgopuffsoof24

Ай бұрын

Hindencar

@nyxl6508

Ай бұрын

hoi4 reference?!!?!?!11111111

IIRC the biggest issue is hydrogen embrittlement that could cause the fuel tank to rupture

@crystalthewolf8945

Ай бұрын

still better than an ev! doesn’t require child labor and uses a renewable fuel source instead of a limited one (lithium is very limited, hydrogen however can be easily produced)

@linkplays2952

Ай бұрын

@@crystalthewolf8945 im pretty sure a crash of this car would literally be an explosion... also lithium can be recycled 95% so it will take a very very long time to run out of lithium (by then we'll probably be able to harvest asteroids or smth)

@rukasu5020

Ай бұрын

Would probably still be more reliable than an American car

@owngamesgamer4030

Ай бұрын

not exactlt it wouldnt cause the fuel tank to rupture but in case of a rapture it causes a massive explosion even if there not much to ignite it cause hydrogen gas doesnt like to exist especially at high pressures and around anything with oxygen

@fikriarieska8450

Ай бұрын

Easy to handle. Better than oily blocks Hydro 7 did this 2 decades ago. Also it's a hybrid gas/hydrogen

If these types of cars were common place, the traffic trolling in GTAV would be possible irl.

Imagine living in a high congestion area where all the cars are spitting out whats essentially steam. Imagine the humidity caused by rush hour traffic.

This fuel has been around for some years, but it takes an automotive giant to bring it home to the masses.

@DanPetrePhotos

Ай бұрын

That fuel ain't cheap, it takes electricity to make it and you get more miles using that electricity in an EV

@nikolaideianov5092

Ай бұрын

​@@DanPetrePhotos and its super cooled hydrogen At least gasoline cant make you into a posickle

@ghostkilla931

Ай бұрын

Nah we are no where near having it commercially available and reliable to not become either a slow gas leak or a portable 500kg bomb.

@BierBart12

Ай бұрын

Yeah, many trains have been using it for years. I believe there's a German company that exclusively builds hydrogen trains

@GoodGuyRuska-

Ай бұрын

@@nikolaideianov5092 your right it just makes you a human torch XD

As someone who drives compressed refrigerated liquid gases for a living, there are just SOO many factors with storage and transport I can't see it becoming a reasonable reality in a production car and market

@crystalthewolf8945

Ай бұрын

they actually already sell one in california and it’s pretty popular

@fikriarieska8450

Ай бұрын

U mean like CNG?​@@crystalthewolf8945

@sam512

Ай бұрын

@@crystalthewolf8945more like pretty unpopular

@hesleyt

Ай бұрын

​@@crystalthewolf8945I bet the hydrogen is nor store as liquid; therefore, the mileage range is short.

@georgeburns6512

Ай бұрын

@@sam512that’s what they said about the Prius but now it’s one of the most hated/ popular modular cars in the world

we boutta get hindenburged with this one 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

That's a challenge by itself, now think on a hot climate area.🔥

The energy needed to keep it at that temperature would be insane

@user-mp7ls1zw9p

Ай бұрын

The energy needed to power all of the proposed electric trucks, cars, homes and businesses IS insane. It's all hopes and dreams and not rooted in any reality.

@ge0arc244

Ай бұрын

No energy needed to keep liquid hydrogen that cold, once liquid that temperature is its natural temperature. The issue is keeping it in the fuel cell. Either it evaporates if there is the slightest hole in the fuel cell or makes the tank so brittle it shatters easily. OTR Hazmat Trucker, I have carried this stuff in a doubled walled tanker for a decade. Dangerous as the DEVIL, a ruptured tank and no one lives in the vehicle.

@wachinpntdry.

Ай бұрын

@@ge0arc244 "No energy needed to keep liquid hydrogen that cold"... so you're saying it's magic ?.. it somehow defies all laws of the universe, and apparently is the answer to the entire climate warming thing... good news everyone, the climate crises is soon to end, and we'll all have free a/c to boot.... hmm..it may be expensive to install initially, but i wonder why all the packing houses and cold storage facilities haven't availed themselves of this tech instead of spending 10s of thousands per month for refrigeration ?

@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818

Ай бұрын

@@user-mp7ls1zw9p EV's use less energy than gas or diesel cars, so no its not insane. You just dont want change because your scared of it.

@Mernom

29 күн бұрын

​@@ge0arc244 Please learn thermodynamics.

I don't want "noise and excitement", I want "reliable during winter"

@FedkaSlovanich

Ай бұрын

we had a big snow storm end of december that got to -10 and it killed everyones electric cars, it was 5k for each car for the battery.

@deltab9768

Ай бұрын

@@FedkaSlovanichit’s so weird I left lithium batteries (little power tool ones) in the car when it was -35F (-37C) and it definitely didn’t destroy them. They said the state of charge was partial even though I had charged them the day before, but once they warmed up and go recharged they were OK.

@coreytaylor5386

Ай бұрын

@@FedkaSlovanich weird, my Tesla was able to hand -30 degree Montanan winters just fine

@FedkaSlovanich

Ай бұрын

@@coreytaylor5386 what model

@trancetechkid

Ай бұрын

@@FedkaSlovanichare you referring to the storms in Ohio or wherever that people couldn’t charge their batteries at charging stations and it turned out the batteries had to precondition (heat up) that it was so cold it too like 45 min, people left before that bc they had no idea about preconditioning and just assumed their car was bricked, when it wasn’t. Ended up being a smear piece by the media. None of the cars were damaged. Of course they never share that on all the news sites, just the bs click-bait articles.

Ah yes, nothing screams safety like a -200 degree pressurised bomb casually strolling down the highway at 90 mph lmfaoo

@az_3kgt714

Ай бұрын

piloted by people with minimal skill, 90% of the time texting on their phone or straight sleeping at the wheel. Yea....Recipe for disaster.

@MrToySolja

Ай бұрын

compared to a 50L+ tank full of flammable liquid with equal the amount of chance of exploding?

@PHAZER99

Ай бұрын

​@@MrToySoljaPetrol explosion and Hydrogen explosions are way different, Hydrogen would probably leave a crater in the road when that blows up

@kakkacarmenelectra7229

Ай бұрын

Do you know what gasoline does? We’re already driving around in bombs that have explosions happening 1000x a minute

@az_3kgt714

Ай бұрын

@@kakkacarmenelectra7229 do you also know that gasoline is much harder to light off than hydrogen? Liquid gasoline doesnt really light off very well until its vaporized..Hydrogen is like liquid oxygen..

The main problem with trying to save the combustion engine is that it doesnt need to be saved as it is perfectly safe and unthreatened

I want that hear exchanger as an ac. So the car stays cool even in super hot summer.

Imagine going on holiday and you come back to your car that exploded because the cryogenic freezer failed lmao

@teenageapple3788

Ай бұрын

Could say the same about a gas powered car exploding because a crucial part broke or en ev exploding because the battery went nuclear on itself

@foresthillwolf7998

Ай бұрын

​@teenageapple3788 Keeping something at an extremely cold temperature is not the same as an electric car sitting without draining the battery or an internal combustion car sotting and doing nothing in room temperature. Two of those sit there and do mothing passively, while one has to actively keep cooling.

@eriktenhag2022

Ай бұрын

​​@@teenageapple3788oh shut up LMAOOO "crucial part broke". Pulled something straight out of his bottom.

@eriktenhag2022

Ай бұрын

​​@@teenageapple3788 a gasoline car sitting idle catching fire won't level an entire building the way a hindenberg on wheels will. Not to mention, hydrogen can just suddenly think "nah these walls are too limiting" and escape anyway even without a leak LMFAO

@eriktenhag2022

Ай бұрын

​@@teenageapple3788there is absolutely no way an EV will go "nuclear". That is something hindenberg-on-wheels will do - level an entire block in a multi hindenberg-on-wheels crash. An EV will keep burning and will waste thousands more gallons of water to put out vs gasoline but it will still not go "nuclear" LMFAO.

Also. If u leave this car in ur garage for example. The tank will slowly start to raise in temp and so u need to vent the gas. Meaning u will loose hydrogen fuel actually quite rapidly by not even using the car. BMW also did this and ur not allowed to store the car in a parking garage since there is a risk of explosion

@sylvan744

Ай бұрын

It’s fine, having a home storage system and recondenser is cheaper than a wall charger.

@bobspinelli2994

Ай бұрын

No, it wont.. Temp is maintained under pressure.

@tysonchickennuggets

Ай бұрын

@@bobspinelli2994 it absolutely will. i suggest actually looking into the car. the tank isnt capable of keeping it at such a temperature, for extended preiods of time, where hydrogen dosnt evaporate, so than the hydrogen starts becoming gas. in fact there is a safety valve that will release hydrogen as the temperature rises, so the tank stays under safe pressures. And it is quite significant the amount of hydrogen that is released.

Those rear end collisions will be EXTRA spicy lmao

I was about to write a complex Well Did You Know, but then saw the last 5 secs of your video.

Mainly because the mechanic has to get a cryogenic system license to work on the cars would need friction and spark resistant tools sensors and would need safety systems in place for every vehicle with that system. Because you will also have liquid oxygen present in case of ruptured tank car will turn into ash and molten metal and would be 150 foot radius

@christiangreen1477

Ай бұрын

you lack of intelligence, while still having a pulse, is amazing.

@UpperDarbyDetailing

Ай бұрын

Why would you need LOX? It’s not going into space man.

@kakarotx69

Ай бұрын

While getting paid 20$ per hour

@WalnutWarrior7

Ай бұрын

Matter of regulation. New mechanics graduate every year. They will eventually replace the old guard that can’t do this.

@xugro

Ай бұрын

@@UpperDarbyDetailingYou wouldn’t need lox but if the lh2 leaks it’s cold enough to condense the air. I don’t think that’s a problem in a fire though.

its like keeping up with a factory inside a car

Accident means a high explosive bomb 😂

We will only see the car when the government taxes water to oblivion

@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS

Ай бұрын

You mean like they do in California? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

@aj_shooter4097

Ай бұрын

It already does

@cjmarion6350

Ай бұрын

It’s not water it’s concentrated hydrogen. the difference being water is a liquid at 32-212 degrees Fahrenheit (or 0-100 degrees Celsius) and is a very stable substance, pure hydrogen however is a gas way before any naturally occurring temperature on earth and is highly EXPLOSIVE. So it would be a hydrogen tax and not a water tax. There are other issues besides the combustible nature of hydrogen but that would be the most major concern in my opinion.

@Ed70Nova427

Ай бұрын

@@cjmarion6350 Well, he might just be correct in it becoming a water tax that forces us to use Hydrogen Liquid for fuel though. I mean most of California is powered by Hydro Electric Power from water stored in their reservoirs, which they really don't have enough of even without the extra drain on the grid charging Electric Vehicles. So when the water level gets back down to 50% or so and it's calculated there's not enough water to drink, cook and shower if they continue to farm, then they most likely will tax water to numbers never seen before in the history of the civilized world. Then we'll have to trade in our EV's or store them in our garages until the water level comes back up or they lower the tax on water. When you own a Hydrogen Powered vehicle, your garage become useless because you're not allowed to park one in your home garage so storing an EV in there is likely. Best thing would be is save your gasoline powered vehicle in the garage and when there is no water for electricity you can cook old corn and potatoes to make fuel for your old V8 and run errands for all your neighbor's, if they can supply you with what it takes to make fuel, because Commiefornia is likely going to ban gas stations to ensure everyone buys Electric Vehicles.

The problem with hydrogen is that it's a bit unpredictable. Lol

@nikolaideianov5092

Ай бұрын

Hydrogen is like : I dont like this wall .Why not just go trough it ?

Cars are about to go big 💥💥💥.

There was a guy back in the day you can look them up he came up with a car that could drive very long distances on water only and then he ended up dead

One crash and no one's getting out

@Pl4gue.D0ctor

Ай бұрын

You say it like it is an inconvenience.

@punto_88

Ай бұрын

its not pressurized so it wil just leak out

@sylvan744

Ай бұрын

@@punto_88and if a leak reaches a spark, tell me how explosive is hydrogen?

@raulfloarea292

Ай бұрын

​@@punto_88 it is incredibly pressurized actually, to even reach that temp. if it reaches normal atmospheric temperature and pressure upon a rupture of the tank, it'll turn into a gas extraordinarily rapidly and would go off like a mini-nuke. Ever held a bottle of lighter fuel? Try punching a hole with a knife into it and see what happens.

@smithjohn4751

Ай бұрын

@@sylvan744. Just like gasoline.

So you think a burning Tesla is dangerous? Toyota: Hold my steering wheel 🤣

@austinteal3645

Ай бұрын

That brings up another problem with electric vehicles when they catch on fire they do not want to be put out and fun fact they get harder than the surface of the Sun it takes a couple 100000 gallons of water to put out one vehicle

@hanfo420

Ай бұрын

@@austinteal3645 not sure how hard the surface of the sun is, but they call it sunblock for a reason

@markoverton5858

Ай бұрын

If you witnessed leaking fuel from petrol and diesel cars running down a high way cooking Woman and kids alive in trapped cars, when if they were in Tesla’s could have walked away like that man who drove his family of a mountain road tumbled over 250 ft landed on its wheels and all survived, Toyota are in a free fall panic like all legacy ice car makers, there sales a falling there profits are gone they are all in hundreds of billions of dept, can’t make profits on there EVs nothing left but to call Elon bad and lie about Tesla,

@jacka3280

Ай бұрын

@@austinteal3645at least when ev burn, u can run away from it. But once that hydrogen tank explode one blink u will be in next life instead of next destination

@ProCoder11996

Ай бұрын

​@@austinteal3645and electric cars won't catch up Fire more often as ICE cars or blast suddenly like hydrogen cars.

I guess if theres ever an ice age we can start driving these things

Man, I’m glad to see you’re still here after accelerating my now ended mechanical career 10 years ago

@eyegrinder94

3 күн бұрын

Why did it end?

NYOOOOM STUTUTUTUTU

@justkiddo21

Ай бұрын

this caught me off guard omg

@AWillZ53

Ай бұрын

This made me laugh out loud!

Ah yes, I love when my fuel system costs more then the car itself.

@FreeFlightGuy

7 күн бұрын

Than

The fact that my first thought was :“explosion waiting to happen”, says something

I wonder how much rain we'd get if everyone were driving these

Side Benefit: the tech they are exploring to store the liquid nitrogen will spill over into consumer goods. Refrigeration/AC is a big energy hog, and this research could bring significant improvements to reduce the load on a green grid

@vihreelinja4743

Ай бұрын

Less people will be the ONLY way as it is impossible to make people live without using power..

@engineer4769

Ай бұрын

​@vihreelinja4743 I disagree. We need to find more efficient use of our power grid. when lights started changing from incandescent to LEDs the energy consumption dropped, with more efficient cooling systems we can have a cheaper energy bill for keeping our food and homes cool

@Tupsuu

Ай бұрын

​@@vihreelinja4743or then build more nuclear power.

@ProCoder11996

Ай бұрын

Bruh, liquid hydrogen is very dangerous I mean people say battrjes and gasoline are dangerous too, but remember, they are not EXPLOSIVE , simply hydrogen is WAY MORE DANGEROUS than any other fuel

@capo_di_capi

Ай бұрын

Ask Germany how their "green grid" is working out for them. Their consumers pay the HIGHEST energy bills in all of the EU.

TLDR a hydrogen fuel cell can much more efficiently drive electric motors than a combustion engine so its not feasible

@gefulltetaubenbrust2788

Ай бұрын

Feasible maybe but it’s just not a good/practical idea

@Soarano

Ай бұрын

​@@gefulltetaubenbrust2788it's really good for bigger vehicles, its arguably better to have for a lorry/semi

@kagin1235

Ай бұрын

@@Soarano I think bigger vehicles can stay with diesel. modern diesel engines are not that bad. Euro7 engines are already efficient and lower emissions plus if use as a generator to power an electric drive train it gets more efficient.

@virtual-viking

Ай бұрын

​@@SoaranoWhatever the question was, (green) methanol is a better answer than hydrogen.

@icy1007

Ай бұрын

This wouldn't be using an electric motor...

The Cia finna love this.

Always wanted the car version of the hindenburg

It’s all fun and games till you get into a car wreck and accidentally create a nuke out of your trunk

@wachinpntdry.

Ай бұрын

that's some car wreck... must've been going pretty fast to split atoms... hydrogen does not equal nuclear... same as plutonium or uranium.. you could smash either of them with a hammer or fire bullets at it all day long, 100% guaranteed, no nuclear explosions

Just imagine the tank exploding. Police show up to a half destroyed car, they think the driver is dead, they walk to the driver, he is frozen Edit: thanks for 500 likes Now I have 1k likes!! Dam in famous

@viarnay

Ай бұрын

a tan full of hydrogen exploding is a neighborhood demolition bomb..

@Davido50

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Every one of big6 automakers have had a working hydrogen-ICE vehicle for over a decade. Nobody wants release one. Toyota is farther behind Ford Motor, GM & BMW esp in technology of EVs & current GTDI engines. I'm in auto Industry ..29yrs now.

@razvy6949

Ай бұрын

If the vehicle is hit catastrophically, I don't think it matters if the driver is frozen or carbonized 💀💀

@nanolog522

Ай бұрын

@@viarnayThats not even true. The hydrogen cannot explode while still in the tank because there is no oxygen. But when it leaks out and ignites, it just burns off because you don’t get an explosive mixture from just leaking hydrogen into the air. It is also lighter than air so it tends to move up as soon as it exits the tank. Your comment is either so incorrect because of malice, or because you do not have any idea about the topic but decide to say something anyway.

@xIcarus227

Ай бұрын

@@nanolog522 this right here, it amuses me how much garbage people talk around hydrogen. The main reason hydrogen engines never took off is because hydrogen is incredibly inefficient to produce, not because we can't make a good enough tank to store it.

This would be the holy grail especially if it is a hybrid

When I was a kid I thought this was the future. After some years and research, I don't think this will ever be a thing.

* gets rear ended * “damn it” * absolutely f***king explodes*

@piterpraker3399

Ай бұрын

Certified Ford Pinto moment.

@somerandomturtle4775

Ай бұрын

Napolian dynamite

If this thing crashes we are the people inside are gonna end up like cartoon cavemen.

It'll be a good car to drive around the Pluto

Yeah but no more flames 🔥🔥

hydrogen doesn't work in practice. its very difficult to store, it takes extra energy to freeze to cryogenic temps, causes fouling of its container, and it's dangerous compared to gas/battery. we've had hydrogen cars for at least 20 years, there's just no way to build an infrastructure for it.

@vuza752

Ай бұрын

You can just use bioethanol + ethanol reforming, we already have the infrastructure for ethanol, can produce it carbon neutral, and all it requires is a reformer on the vehicle.

@mcpr5971

Ай бұрын

@@vuza752 I think any application for hydrogen should be for freight trains. they are huge and heavy, so much more protective of a hydrogen tank than a vehicle. they are super efficient already due to rails, and they can go crazy far distances, so they could handle having relatively few fueling stations. The railroad could go carbon neutral in a much shorter time.

@RobertMock-pu9yx

Ай бұрын

We *are* solving the problem though, plus, there are other ways to store hydrogen being explored that should help fix the density problem. I for one remain very hopeful and optimistic for hydrogen.

@cave.dweller.mediocrates

Ай бұрын

We'll get it. Electrolysis of water is the easy way. You just split water on demand. Water isn't hard to store. And Toyota DID NOT invent or develop this

@gibbon0220

Ай бұрын

It works. But it’s not used like petrol or other carbon-hydrogens, it’s an enviroment friendly alternative of batteries, which pollutes the enviroment at it’s manufacturing.

I think Toyota is the only company to try it because there is no way to make money on it

@fikriarieska8450

Ай бұрын

No quick stunt around it. Reason why BMW quit hydro7

@ralanham76

Ай бұрын

That's such a burn 🔥

@capo_di_capi

Ай бұрын

Stop and realize how ignorant you sound, do you realize that the research being done on Hydrogen used as a combustion element has HUGE spin off potential, those patents could be worth BILLIONS to the energy supply market.

@jwm5165

Ай бұрын

Yes the BMW hydrogen 7 was an experiment using the E65/6 platform. A small number were made for the German market and given to select customers to test and evaluate. They used existing petrol engines and worked pretty well. There is a video on the BMW YT channel showing how the fuel filling system works. I remember there were technical docs available for them on the BMW service system. I can't give a link as it requires a staff username etc.

@wachinpntdry.

Ай бұрын

yeah, because toyota is famously unsuccessful, devoid of innovation, isn't profitable, and builds notoriously unreliable vehicles..

If someone rear ends that tank, the entire segment of road that car is on is going boom

ahh . a very intelligent way to make us rewatch that video.

*brakes a bit too suddenly The hydrogen tank: i identify as nuke, meet your maker

@piterpraker3399

Ай бұрын

God: My son, I gave you an engine, and blessed it, and you named it the "V8".

Great idea, make hydrogen and cool it down to -253 and then waste it in an engine with 15% power efficiency… 😢

@massimomacucci7461

Ай бұрын

Completely agree, this is an absurdity in terms of efficiency. Furthermore, it is an absurdity in terms of safety. Toyota, after lagging behind in EVs seems to have gone crazy...

@DericCribbs

Ай бұрын

lol at every one betting against Toyota!

@LaMirah

Ай бұрын

Ah, but with your fuel at 20K, the Carnot efficiency goes through the roof! It'll be a lot higher than 15% efficiency. The main trouble is in keeping that fuel from weakening it's tank, absorbing heat from the environment and ceasing to be a liquid, destroying the car in the process.

@icy1007

Ай бұрын

Hydrogen engines are 60%+ efficient.

@randomdudeontheinternet9926

Ай бұрын

⁠you're right! An impressive 17% efficiency by making the engine slow as a snail.

People would probably be a little more careful about rear ending tho😂

Hydrogen like to go BOOM.

Besides the fact that hydrogen is incredibly energetic upon detonation and in turn, extremely dangerous, the ability to achieve, store and maintain cryogenic liquids in a closed loop system is almost paradoxical at this scale.

@alosreal

Ай бұрын

Wth are those words

@elantrauma

Ай бұрын

@@alosreal Is there something you don't understand? I can clarify if you'd like.

@SerunaXI

Ай бұрын

@@alosreal It's like a catch-22 sort of paradox. You need x to get y, but also need to have y before you can have x. The energy needed to create and maintain the system would outweigh the benefit the system might present at the end.

Stop saying hydrogen has no carbon emission. Carbon emissions are made while making hydrogen.

@Asto508

Ай бұрын

I'm fairly sure you know that this is of course in conjunction with producing hydrogen from non-fossil sources, so it falls in between pure EV and e-fuels in terms of efficiency.

@robertpurdy701

Ай бұрын

@@Asto508 So, instead of storing electricity in batteries, crack water into hydrogen? Sounds good, but it is super dangerous in so many ways.

@Asto508

Ай бұрын

@@robertpurdy701 Not more dangerous than Li-Ion bombs.

@nodical802

Ай бұрын

@@robertpurdy701 it really isnt. Water is a molecule made of atoms, not an atom itself

@icy1007

Ай бұрын

@@Asto508 There are no "Li-ion bombs"...

Gonna make myself a land hindenburg with that car

Announcing the all-new Toyota Hindenburg!

MEOOOOOWWWW BUBUBUBUBU!

Hydrogen Cars hit the open market Extremists: it's free real estate

This thit will blow up the market

honestly this would be cool!

Toyota is smart enough to know that EV's alone will not "save the planet" .They are just a different method of producing a product that comes with disadvantages. Conflict Minerals being the worst.

@ehb403

Ай бұрын

Producing electricity or hydrogen is just as polluting as a gasoline engine (assuming the gasoline engine runs at a constant 35% efficiency or higher -- difficult but not impossible). This is why my engine operating paradigm focuses on maximizing low demand thermal efficiency (which car manufacturers seem to ignore).

@Banana_Banshee

Ай бұрын

the cope is real with you

@reakold

Ай бұрын

​@ehb403 nuclear isnt polluting. It's just free energy which in some countries doesn't leave waste since they bury it so deep.

@capo_di_capi

Ай бұрын

@@reakold Nothing in life is free, anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something.

@bobman717

Ай бұрын

Toyota is smart enough to accept billions from the Japanese goverment to do this stuff lmao

You know, one mistake people tend to make is they forget that technology and materials will continue to improve. In the future we'll have more influence over the universal rules that limit us in the present

@abdillin

Ай бұрын

Couldn't you say the same about electric cars? It's till relatively new technology

@nikolaideianov5092

Ай бұрын

​@@abdillin its also actualy used And better batterys wouldnt only sell for EVs but also for phones ,tools and a lot else

My father lived in Kharkov from his birth in 1965 to 1991 and regularely saw GAZ-21 taxi powered with hydrogen engine. Everything new is well forgotten old

We need this

Combustion engines aren't going anywhere for a very, very long time, assuming they ever go away. What's going to be happening is we'll be using synthetic fuels that will be made with waste heat from nuclear reactors.

@Lewis_Standing

Ай бұрын

You mean the nuclear power plants that we simply are not building anymore? Good luck with that Idea.

@CyanRooper

Ай бұрын

The problem is not that the engines will go away. The problem is that enthusiasts are afraid that, eventually, owning an ICE car will be too expensive to justify unless it has some historic value. Imagine how expensive enthusiast cars will be after 2030. Imagine if taxes for ICE cars increase year on year after internal combustion engine production ends in 2030. Imagine if aftermarket companies shift to supporting EVs over ICE cars. Imagine if gas stations start replacing their petrol pumps with chargers. Eventually even owning a sh-tbox Corolla from the 80s will be too expensive for the average enthusiast so they'll end up selling it for (hopefully) a cheap EV equivalent (if there ever will be one).

@thebarkingmouse

Ай бұрын

@@CyanRooper The tax issue is one that we're going to have to fight against because as we go to synthetic fuels it'll be carbon neutral so there will be no rational reason to oppose them and there's still plenty of places where you simply can't substitute for a combustion engine if you are very remote if you need a fuel source that can be stored for a long period of time without degrading if you need incredibly energy dense fuel Then there is no substitute for an internal combustion engine. And I say this is a person who has an electric car. I also have an internal combustion engine car in case I'm going someplace where it's life or death that I'd be able to get out of the situation. Think going to Yellowstone in the dead of winter.

@iandavis8725

Ай бұрын

@@thebarkingmouseat the current rate, there will only be enough synthetic fuels produced to replace just 2% of EU total of fuel used per year by 2035. It’s just really difficult to make enough of the stuff.

@piterpraker3399

Ай бұрын

​@@CyanRooperYou do realize the increased rare earth metals mined for electrics alone make them unsustainable, right? On top of that, there's no way to refurbish them reliably - and that's not going to be a priority anyway because they want you to buy new packs. 😂 And you WILL. And so will everyone else. The governments will not help you because they want you to be broke and relying on public transportation - which will require a unique signature...a combination facial id/gait recognition. So dig enough metal for an entire...battery of...batteries, or change your fluids every 3-5k miles. And when your engine's finally done in 20 years, swap it for a boosted crate motor at a fraction of the cost of your car due to inflation.

Well to be honest when gasoline engines came in there werre a lot of issues.. From fuel catching fire to safety aspect... Now after a century they have mastered that technology.. I am sure hydrogen will be like that...

@Laurenceomance

Ай бұрын

Bold assumption to think we will be using cars. Even then, hydrogen is simply objectively more difficult and expensive to both produce into fuel and to use to fuel a vehicle. It is incredibly explosive, ruins its containers, has to be kept at RIDICULOUSLY low temperatures and more.

@entername3840

Ай бұрын

@@Laurenceomance yet Toyota was able to make a hydrogen car as well as bmw.. Btw you are describing hydrogen correct? let me ask you this what about gasoline? It evaporates easily, it is highly flammable, and can possibly form explosive mixtures in air. Among other chemicals, gasoline contains other chemicals as well... So what is your point?

@jonsnow3176

Ай бұрын

@@entername3840 you do know that the tanks that hold the nitrogen are pressurized. Do I need to tell you how that's dangerous? Also hydrogen flames are nearly invisible.

@entername3840

Ай бұрын

@@jonsnow3176 don't make assumptions check how the automobiles are making it safer... Check the bmw how they tackled it.

@Laurenceomance

Ай бұрын

@@entername3840 Couple ajustments to your reply. The hydrogen car already made uses gas hydrogen, which while extremely unsafe and catastrophic in a crash, is no where near as bad as liquid. Yes petrol can do all those things but hydrogen does all of the same things and burns outside of the visible light station. If you walk towards one of these cars if it miraculously hasn't exploded you could spontaneously combust.

Just FYI, in tokyo, hydrogen buses are somewhat common. They're labeled as Fuel Cell buses.

One car crash will level a block😂

Imagine getting into an accident and your car goes nuclear

Just make an electric v8 with electromagnetic pistons :D

@Mouwcat

Ай бұрын

Or, hire some good audio engineers to just simulate it. Most consumers would never be able to tell the difference

The combustion engine will never go away.

@gsilva220

20 күн бұрын

Exactly, but it needs to stop doing primary traction ASAP, and also needs to burn cleaner fuels.

Combustion engine doesn't need saving. He rules the world thank God.

Its hilarious when the EV haters talk about all the problems with EVs then talk about hydrogen cars as a viable option.

@BabyBugBug

Ай бұрын

The issue is sustainability. Those batteries as they are now are very heavy, expensive, and NOT good for the environment at all. When this gets sorted out, I will look into one. Until then, I see little benefit kicking the can down the road.

@stinkwink695

Ай бұрын

@@BabyBugBug Nothing people do is "good for the environment" hydrogen cars especially combustion hydrogen cars have all the same problems as EVs x10. To get the hydrogen to your car IS actually worse for the environment than a gasoline car just like the EV haters incorrectly say about EVs. The issues with EVs are mostly solved, they haven't even begun to solve those issues with hydrogen. Just sitting in the garage to keep the hydrogen cold and a dense liquid would probably consume more energy than an EV does while its actually driving, and if you dont keep it cold it you have to vent it to atmosphere or it will literally blow up.

@BabyBugBug

Ай бұрын

@@stinkwink695Explain how it is 10x worse than an EV. What is your evidence?

@stinkwink695

Ай бұрын

@@BabyBugBug I explained a few reason already, you literally have to dump your fuel source so you car doesn't blow up, sitting in your garage not moving your car will run out of fuel, fuel that takes far more energy to create and store than you get out of it moving your car.

@BabyBugBug

Ай бұрын

@@stinkwink695​​⁠I was thinking more so hydrogen fuel cell technology as opposed to a combustion engine.

Cars contribute hardly a fraction of the carbon emissions... yet theyre to blame.

@zef1097

Ай бұрын

Every bit helps

@UsoMerit

Ай бұрын

Transport accounts for around one-fifth of global carbon dioxide (CO) emissions. Road travel accounts for three-quarters of transport emissions. cars and buses contribute 45.1% trucks contribute 29.4% So over all Road Transport is responsible for around 15% of all emissions.

@RothBeyondTheGrave

Ай бұрын

Easiest target for largest money grab & control. Also, easiest topic to dissuade the drooling masses into a "green future" while they continue to destroy every greenspace, cut down every tree, build at alarming rates, force every animal into extinction, literally mention nothing about agriculture or manufacturing processes, or the unrealistic business of just changing the fact our entire global society runs off of petroleum. We'll just overhaul that in 10 yrs, no problem!! Ah, burnt coal & gas electricity paired with rare earth extraction for throwaway devices that can't be serviced or diagnosed......HOW GREEN!!

@sirlinkthefourth6755

Ай бұрын

China is 51% of all emissions mostly from coal plants, that doesn't mean we can just wait until a dictatorship stops being a bunch of assholes if you seriously believe that's a solution then you're daft in the mean time we are forced to tackle everything we can, just so happens cars are the easiest thing to start on that's why the hype for greener cars is so high.

I work for an automaker and would buy this competitors vehicle in a heartbeat

Those Gifford McMahon cryocoolers typically need about 6 kW of power continuously to keep hydrogen cold enough to liquify and recondense any boil off. I really don’t see how this can be worth pursuing.

For shipping it might be viable. It is way too inefficient to compete with battery powered cars.

@johnstark4723

Ай бұрын

Battery powered cars are NOT efficient by any means. And they are also bombs waiting to explode. Nothing about EV's makes sense at this point. Only truly uneducated people would think EV's are viable at this point. Not a single country can deal with charging them, let alone repairing them. They cause more pollution than ICE vehicles ever could. Pollution from mining the materials, pollution from the fires they cause and pollution from dumping the batteries which cannot be easily recycled. EV's are decades from being viable. Hydrogen vehicles are, like EV's just too dangerous. They are b9mbs just waiting to explode. The only difference is their fires have a third the pollution of an EV which gives off 4,000 dangerous chemicals in a fire

I absolutely love that Toyota seems to always be looking for a way to save the fun and sound of the combustion engine but stay green. They might just be the hope for car guys in the future.

@RothBeyondTheGrave

Ай бұрын

Indeed. I'm rooting for the yamaha collaboration for solid state batteries if nothing else. Porsche already has their synthetic e fuels, but there's still massive hurdles to jump with that one.

@dfreadhoff

Ай бұрын

Jay Leno is the biggest "Car Guy" in the world and he drives an EV as his daily driver...just saying.

@darkcircle899

Ай бұрын

@@dfreadhoff What does that have to do with anything? Jay Leno seeing value in EVs has nothing to do with the majority of car guys who don't like them. Also most people aren't spoiled with the kind of choice he has.

That’s impressive

there is an old saying that goes like : "TOYOTA 🗣"

My problem with hydrogen is energy density. You lose a ridiculous amount of storage to get you the same 300 mi and there's almost no infrastructure for it. ICE is on its way out. The infrastructure is being built for electric, and we have unlimited solar energy at our disposal.

Imagine drunk driving with this car is going to go insane

You could just insert a speaker for the anoiing noise. Also is good that cars get more quite 😂

It also make explosion more spontaneous and hardcore

JCB have developed similar and is being rolled out on the production line for all there earth moving machines