Can Israel Still Claim To Be A Democracy?
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Mehdi Hasan, founder, CEO, and editor-in-chief of the new media company Zeteo, to discuss the biggest stories of the week and his new venture.
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Democracies dont kill journalists.
@delatroy
Ай бұрын
US and UK captured by Zionist bribes
No, it's an apartheid state.
A democracy for some is not a democracy. Point blank period.
@Milimeteypetey
Ай бұрын
Genuine question, shouldn’t a democratic state be viewed more as a spectrum? Most societies lock off the franchise to certain populations, felons for example.
@abubaytnighan6480
Ай бұрын
@@Milimeteypeteyfelons not voting is not the same as an entire people destined to never vote from the day they are born
@michaeltorris5675
Ай бұрын
@@Milimeteypeteywhat other points on the spectrum would there be though? One in which everyone can vote. And one in which everyone but felons can vote. I don’t know of any democracy in which everyone but a specific population, other than felons, can vote.
@Milimeteypetey
Ай бұрын
@@michaeltorris5675 Just a thought I had 🤷🏻♂️ Obviously I don’t believe Israel is a democracy in the same way america prior to giving African Americans and women the franchise was a democracy.
@michaeltorris5675
Ай бұрын
@@Milimeteypetey I’m just asking.
No. They can claim to be an Apartheid Ethnostate though.
@GeteMachine
Ай бұрын
Until congress tries to make it illegal to say that.
@booooboooo2010
Ай бұрын
👍👍
@carolegilchrist6712
Ай бұрын
@@GeteMachine- 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it’s coming!
It never was. That was the greatest scam, convincing people that it was.
The fact that they were able to claim that for so long without pushback is insane
@sheriffathy1268
Ай бұрын
If everyone in the West Bank and Gaza were allowed to vote (i.e. actual democracy) the State of Israel would no longer exist. This is the irony.
@NotShowingOff
Ай бұрын
It’s really about who is hearing it. If the American media dominates the discourse, then the Allie’s of America get cover
@ChristianPareATLAS
Ай бұрын
Also we needed a life changing series of events for people to start speaking up. The response from Israel is the reason why opposition started to be so strong. Israel destroyed their own reputation. I named long time ago the actions of Israel and Zionists against the Palestinians and their neighbors has desantisemitic meaning they destroyed their own reputation because the Zionists and Israel has too much hate creating self arm and destruction. Backfiring against Israel and the Zionists is another way to describe this situation
@ChristianPareATLAS
Ай бұрын
Tunnel vision creates that circumstance
The question should be “how could they EVER claim to be a democracy?” Apartheid is definitionally undemocratic.
Calling It a democracy is like calling apartheid south Africa a democracy. Even Desmond Tutu said that the occupied Palestine is EVEN WORSE than apartheid SA. Not to mention that the regime was a strong ally, admirer and supporter of apartheid SA back then.
@EgorZA82
Ай бұрын
I'm South African and what is going on on Palestine is much worst than what was happening by us. Only whaites was allowed to vote but people could move freely except at 20h00 if you were black you had to have a pass to be in town but we didn't force them to only one part of SA, they were allowed to work, have property and cars and we did not murder them the way Isreal is murdering Palestinians. Israel apartheid is 100 times worse than South Africa back in the day
@simonkapadia7582
Ай бұрын
Of course by that logic the US would have to stop claiming to be the oldest modern democracy, which is one reason that view is rarely adopted there. I mean apartheid in the US ended remarkably recently.
@PauloAdriano-zo2ng
Ай бұрын
@@simonkapadia7582 Legally it has, but not 100% in practice. There will be more voter repression this November. Not to mention all these college student arrests. Let's face it, both the U.S. and UK have rotten political systems. And, they're both getting beyond reform, which is a shame, since both nations have made valuable contributions to accountable governance over the past few hundred years. If you want higher political standards now, you need to go to S.Korea and Taiwan.
@longliverocknroll5
Ай бұрын
@@simonkapadia7582just start taking Republicans at their word. “Yes, proto-fascists, you’re right, America has NEVER been a democracy, which is why we need to fundamentally change the constitution to fix that problem”.
@InternetMameluq
Ай бұрын
Really? ...Bless his name, Tutu.
Great points. Israel has always been called a beacon of democracy in the Middle East, but that beacon has always glowed a perpetual red. In my opinion it has never been close to being a democracy and has never trended anywhere near close to being one. And somebody tell me why it always has to defend itself. Why is that?
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
Ask those who always attack Israel why do the do that.
@trish5111
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovsky I did. They said they want their country back.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
@@trish5111Since you chose to represent them, tell them to not hold their breath. It has never been their land and never will be.
This shouldn’t even be a question
Thank you for a great discussion. Finally true journalism.
Same goes for the United States.
I love that Mehdis profile has grown larger than ever after being silenced by the mainstream. In twenty years (if the world is still here) he will be lauded for his integrity and humanity in the face of such rampant greedy evil.
HELL NO!
No they cannot
I love the three of these folks together. Good convo.
Can the US??? Honestly.
@JMBvideo
Ай бұрын
Yes
Occupied America, the United States of Israel.
@InternetMameluq
Ай бұрын
America is part of Ancient Israeli maps.
It's about as democratic as the Roman Empire was...
I mean just look how they treated their own citizens... Let alone the Palestinians
@judifeldman469
Ай бұрын
What the hell are you talking about? MOST ISRAELIS ARE HAPPY WITH THEIR COUNTRY. ARE WE WITH OURS?
@truelies5431
Ай бұрын
@@judifeldman469 they're not happy with the government... just listen to what protestors been saying even before oct 7th... they want Natenyahu out.. and till today they've been so frustrated on he handled the hostage situation
@teotronia
Ай бұрын
@@judifeldman469 Yotam Haim, Alon Shamriz and Samer Talalka would disagree with you if they still could
Yes, Israel can still claim to be a democracy...for humorous purposes.
The only discernible difference that I can find between the various political parties in Israel is that they disagree whether or not to teach women how to read. When it comes to the Palestinians, they’re all on the same page.
@jds614
Ай бұрын
Even the arab parliament members?
@dakunssd
Ай бұрын
@@jds614 You mean all 10 of them?
@enricomassignani
Ай бұрын
Are they going that far into religious extremism?
@callmeshlomo7035
Ай бұрын
@@enricomassignani Israel is a theocracy, not to mention an ethnocracy , i know because i live in Israel.
@enricomassignani
Ай бұрын
@@callmeshlomo7035 yes, but I thought they had accepted that men and women have the same rights xD
Yes.. democracy just means the will of the people is reflected in their chosen leadership.. The Israeli people have chosen their leader and he reflects their views. There would be absolutely no protesting in Israel if they didn't have hostages.. they're not upset about the genocide of Palestinians..
@longliverocknroll5
Ай бұрын
You cannot reflect the will of the people in a theocratic apartheid state.
@drooghead
Ай бұрын
But that requires the will of all people, not just a selected group otherwise you can call a monarchy a democracy if the monarch's family agree with them.
@TeeWreh
Ай бұрын
@@drooghead in that case the USA is not a democracy. Not everyone in the USA can vote. Republicans work hard to make sure fewer people vote every election cycle. There are several different implementations of democracy around the world. England is a democracy even though they are a monarch. The fact that there's a system where people vote makes it a democracy. No one system is perfect or can be the good standard for what a democracy should be. Countries and societies are all different. That's why Mehdi was 1000% correct. The real question is about what Israel is DOING rather than what Israel IS.. If you're looking for American democracy anywhere else in the world, you'll be disappointed. They all have elements of a true democracy.. Even America!! This conversation about the nation's actions over its branding is very interesting. I hope we can stop the nonsense of democracy=good anything else=bad.. the real question should always be about what the country is doing.
You can't be a democracy having mandatory military service.
@EgorZA82
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 you are crazy, most democracies have mandatory military service it is a good thing for young men, 2 years they learn respect d work ethics
@TheInsaneupsdriver
Ай бұрын
@@EgorZA82like Israel teaching their population racism and Fascism.
@Fang1241
Ай бұрын
@@EgorZA82are you stupid on purpose
@lenacohen8913
Ай бұрын
@@EgorZA82you are crazy!!! Mandatory military service is a good thing because the young men learn respect and ethics? This must be satire! All over the world, young people in the military learn two things: 1. follow orders blindly and 2. kill other people. Furthermore, with regard to Israel against the background of the genocide in Gaza, to claim that young Israelis learn "respect and ethics" through mandatory military service must be a cynical joke!!! Educate yourself: Just Google “Breaking the Silence.” The IDF is a brainwashing machine that trains young people (young men and young women) to become ruthless sadistic killers and makes them complicit in ethnic cleansing. Period.
@thechairman1318
Ай бұрын
*"You can't be a democracy having mandatory military service."* Mandatory _gender-integrated_ service, no less. That makes it a even more effective means of dissemination and indoctrination into the state ideology when its not just your brothers, sons and dads going in, but your sisters, wives and mothers going in as well.
No. They probably never have been, as the rules seem to have always been different for the indigenous Palestinians since 1948.
@marionanderson7059
Ай бұрын
@mikeg2306 The most recent arrivals in Palestine are the people from Europe, Crimea , Africa, the Americas. Ivrit was adoped as the official language in 1948 to help unify the disparate group. In 1948, there were 1.4 million Palestinians already resident across the land in 1,300 towns and villages. Those people could trace their heritage way back, so they are indigenous in the sense they were there before the newest arrivals who came to colonise the land. There was also a smaller group of indigenous Jewish people, making up 2% of the population in 1914. The two people co existed side by side for a long time, together with the sadly ever diminishing Christian group of people who made up 7.9% of the population of Palestine by 1946
Democratic Republic of Congo... Democratic Republic of North Korea... The real question is why does Israel rank so highly in The Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Ranking Index to the extent that it is even called a "Flawed democracy" and ranked 30 in the world in 2023? That said, the United States ranks 29 and is also considered a "Flawed democracy" by The Economist so perhaps seeing it through the eyes of the United States means that Israel does relatively look like a democracy?
@kindGSL
Ай бұрын
Threats and bribes?
@michaeltorris5675
Ай бұрын
I think you answered your own question. Yes, through the eyes of the typical American it looks like a democracy. To the rest of the world it does not.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
Most importantly, Israel is ranked #5 among most happiest countries in the world in 2024 (!). To compare: US ranked 23rd. Who in the world cares about democracy? It is rare case when I agree with Hasan.
@crazyeight9
Ай бұрын
@@michaeltorris5675what do you mean the rest of the world. Most of the world are not democratic countries. Israel has elections every 2 Years. Multiple things can be true at once
@cambriaofthevastoceans6721
Ай бұрын
@@crazyeight9🤣🤣🤣
Short answer NO!
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
Now think about long one. If you can.
@syttt7925
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovsky Long answer - 1. It does not allow most people who are not Jewish to vote 2. The supreme court is not independent 3. The PM can put pressure on the supreme court and all 3 branches of the government to bend to their will. 4. It is an apartheid state which does not give equal rights to all of the people who would be deemed citizens in any other truly democratic state
Calling Israel democratic is in the same ballpark as calling the South democratic during segregation. Hopefully Mehdi Hasan can continue progressing on this and realize just like he did with "the g-word" that it serves no purpose to give the benefit to Israel on this. Good on Vigeland for bringing this up.
Another argument that could be made to show Palestinians aren’t equal in Israel (as if the checkpoints between neighborhoods wasn’t enough) is why is Birth Right only for Jewish kids to visit? If it was fully equal rights wouldn’t you offer the same trip/grant visitation program to Palestinians to also visit?
@YourMajesty143
Ай бұрын
Birthright is based on the scriptural belief that all Jouz are to return to the "promised land". What's ridiculous is that this is based on the superficial understanding of who can be deemed "Jewi5h" (aka Yehudi), since such a label doesn't exist in the To®ah. Yehuda (4th son of Leah), the person, DOES exist and its HIS descendants who are described as part of the "Tribe of Izræl". If we go by this scriptural definition, then many of the Pale5tınıans who have Izræli ancestry would in fact qualify for birthright. However, as you and I both know, modern day Izræl is a racıst ap@rtheıd nation. So it has a specific loophole which excludes anyone that has Arabızed, and converted to Xtianity or ¦slam. Why not just exclude non-Jew!sh religions in general? Bc there are many Jouz who are Agnostic, Atheıst, Buddhıst, or some other religion - which means that you don't have to believe in the To®ah, since birthright applies to ALL descendants (yet nobody acknowledges that many are gentıle converts). So non-believers can technically get birthright, while also allowing Izræl to "legally" deny claim to Pale5tınıans, who are often Xtians & Muslıms. Personally, I'm a Pale5tınıan Atheıst, but bc my ancestors "Arabized", the loophole excludes still me. Trust me, every time we've found a way around their legal restrictions, they updated the law with further caveats. It's frustrating.
@YourMajesty143
Ай бұрын
Birthright is based on the scriptural belief that all Jouz are to return to the "promised land". What's ridiculous is that this is based on the superficial understanding of who can be deemed "Jewi5h" (aka Yehudi), since such a label doesn't exist in the To®ah. Yehuda (4th son of Leah), the person, DOES exist and its HIS descendants who are described as part of the "Tribe of Izræl". If we go by this scriptural definition, then many of the Pale5tınıans who have Izræli ancestry would in fact qualify for birthright. However, as you and I both know, modern day Izræl is a racıst ap@rtheıd nation. So it has a specific loophole which excludes anyone that has Arabızed, and converted to Xtianity or ¦slam. Why not just exclude non-Jew!sh religions in general? Bc there are many Jouz who are Agnostic, Atheıst, Buddhıst, or some other religion - which means that you don't have to believe in the To®ah, since birthright applies to ALL descendants (yet nobody acknowledges that many are gentıle converts). So non-believers can technically get birthright, while also allowing Izræl to "legally" deny claim to Pale5tınıans, who are often Xtians & Muslıms. Personally, I'm a Pale5tınıan Atheıst, but bc my ancestors "Arabized", the loophole excludes still me. Trust me, every time we've found a way around their legal restrictions, they updated the law with further caveats. It's frustrating.
@YourMajesty143
Ай бұрын
Birthrite is based on the scriptural belief that all Jouz are to return to the "promi5ed land". What's ridiculous is that this is based on the superficial understanding of who can be deemed "Jewi5h" (aka Yėhudı), since such a label doesn't exist in the To®ah. Yėhuda (4th son of Leah), the person, DOES exist and its HIS descendants who are described as part of the "Tribe of Iz'ræl". If we go by this scriptural definition, then many of the Pale5tınıans who have Izzræli ancestry would in fact qualify for birthrite. However, as you and I both know, modern day Izzræl is a r^cıst ap®theıd nation. So it has a specific loophole which excludes anyone that has Arabızed, and converted to Xtianity or ¦slam. Why not just exclude non-Jouish religions in general? Bc there are many Jouz who are Agnostic, Atheıst, Buddhıst, or some other religion - which means that you don't have to believe in the To®ah, since birthrite applies to ALL descendants (yet nobody acknowledges that many are gentıle converts). So non-believers can technically get birthrite, while also allowing Izzræl to "legally" deny claim to Pale5tınıans, who are often Xtians & Muslıms. Personally, I'm a Pale5tınıan Atheıst, but bc my ancestors "Arabızėd", the loophole excludes still me. Trust me, every time we've found a way around their legal restrictions, they updated the law with further caveats. It's frustrating.
@sebastiansoto9972
Ай бұрын
@@YourMajesty143 completely agree, I also find it ironic when the phrase “anti-Semite” is thrown at those asking for a ceasefire where even in that definition Palestinians are also semites!
Israel is a democracy, like Athens was, if you don't count the slaves.
@YTsupportsZionaziGenocide
Ай бұрын
That and the diaspora, in which there are more palestines in that category alone than there are "israelis" peroid.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
My respect. You are political thinker of the generation.
July 19 2018, Knesset approved Nationality Law and Israel became officialy a Jewish State; therefore Israel, since then, is an ethnocracy and an ethnocracy isn't by definition a democracy
In the same way apartheid South Africa was technically a "democracy" (if you squinted hard enough)
Israël is not the only democratie in the middle east, its the only APARTHEID STATE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
@jacuzzihot
Ай бұрын
WOW that is a very good one!!
Would love if Sam and Mehdi had a podcast that discussed this and other issues. Two of the sharpest commentators going.
The words "Israel" and "democracy" shouldn't even be allowed in the same paragraph.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
You have just violated your own rule.
@cagg2927
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovsky true lol but you got the gist of it
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
@@cagg2927 I did. However, if you want to create a law based on your opinion, it would be a case of compelled speech; for that reason alone, I cannot support your assertion.
@cagg2927
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovsky i get you. I wouldn't say to make it law but it would be appreciated if our western reporters stopped calling Israel a democracy. Sadly I have witnessed what apartheid Israel looks like.
In a democracy, the electorate gets to decide who the government will be. In Israel, the government gets to decide who the electorate will be.
Yes. They will squeeze this lemon dry.
Great segment with Mehdi.
It's a theocracy like Saudi Arabia.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
It is not even funny. Go back to school.
@imperiald3864
Ай бұрын
Someone should email Saudi Arabia and tell the king they are no longer a monarch because some unhinged guy on youtube thinks its a theocrarcy.
@Fang1241
Ай бұрын
@@imperiald3864are you really stupid enough to think those contradict
According to Saager all the pressure on the ground is pointless
Talk about being in a box. None of those politicians you named stopped sending the arms.
The answer is No, but it’s been No for a very long time. It’s not new.
NO.!!!!
No
Love the show. Left is best!
No!
Simple Answer NO…
Just go look up why they created the Gaza strip in 2005. What does "demographic problem" mean? A democracy is a society, where people get to choose their government. Here the government decided, who is allowed to be their people. That's the exact opposite of a democracy.
3:40 to elaborate: there is no "civil" marriage in israel. You muat be married by a religious authority. People usually get married in Cyprus and then fly back to Israel. Edit: divorces also are regulated by religious authorities - which is arguably even more problematic.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
Why is it of any concern to you? Are you going to immigrate to Israel?
@Fang1241
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovskywhy are you so desperate to defend oppression
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
@@Fang1241What compelled you to ask a question that is not related to my post? If you would like to engage in conversation, please be specific so I can provide a substantive answer.
@Fang1241
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovsky are you stupid on purpose? My question was directly related to your post
excellent
Not now, they aren't!
What was that Churchill quote? "You can always rely on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted every possible alternative." I suppose Biden is in keeping with that particular tradition. Not that Churchill was one to talk about doing the right thing, mind you. But he always gets points for the quips.
Democracy. It never was. How apartheid and democracy could be in one system?
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
Exactly. That is why there is no apartheid in Israel.
@sanjabegovic729
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovsky ugh! Good try. Fortunately unsuccessful 😊
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
@@sanjabegovic729 It is not try. It is a conviction based on reality. What is yours?
@sanjabegovic729
Ай бұрын
@@talmudovsky did you watch the video??? Aaaand maybe checked on Amnesty International report or Harvard University report??? Maybe you just have be honest like many Jews are. I stopped discussing with people like you long time ago so goodbye.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
@@sanjabegovic729 Good. Keep digesting Amnesty's lies. Your like is uncurable, I am afraid.
No democracy under capitalism, so no.
😂😂😂 Could Israel EVER claim to be a democracy❓🤣🤣🤣🤣
Short answer: No.
No red lines- even if its a river of blood 🩸 😢
Defenatly not à democracy just because you ae free to vote. There is more to it than that No apartheid is one, commiting war crimes another and the list doésnt sto there
nope but neither can the usa
Its a procedural democracy in a religious state.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
Brilliant. Tell it to Netanyahu who still relies on election. He will get sigh of relief.
Its going to take a while
The real question is can America consider itself a democracy?
Is it genocide? All you need to do is consider the Israelis go-to response to the accusation, they always say "look at the population of Gaza, there are more of them than ever!" Sounds like what someone says about their failed attempts to exterminate the roaches in their kitchen...
Sure, they can! WE do!
No.
It never has been.
Mehdi ate here! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
NO!! the can not maybe never now
Well, they can make any claims they want. But their a democracy like Pre-Civil war america was a democracy
@jacuzzihot
Ай бұрын
It has gotten a lot better since. But fundamentally is still run by the ultra-rich. It was heavily weighted in the early days towards money, even at some point officially and literally I believe, LOL. Now it is not officially, but practically.
@imperiald3864
Ай бұрын
So in Israel woman can't vote and only wealthy land owners can? Odd and bad comparsement.
@GoddessOfJokes
Ай бұрын
Or Pre-Civil Rights Era America.
No idea how Piers Morgan still withholding his moral compass now. So sick of hearing the same questions again and again in his shows. If cowardice is the impediment to truth, then he should have been fired by now.
When it comes to the issues around education on the g word, it is also important for us to talk about and point out how utterly lacking the education on the holocaust itself, and the camps, has been for so long. It wasn't until I was in my twenties that I learned that Roma people were targeted, or that the queer community existing was a core part of the accusations against Jewish Germans. The failures of our education systems have primed so many people to be just as susceptible to fascist propaganda, because those in power didnt actually disagree as much as they postured at.
Medhi!!
Sure it can still be defined as a democratic state if NOT then we nhave to redefine democracy so it aligns Israel democracy
No - never could.
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
Visit Israel. You'll see it with your own eyes.
Nope!
Managed democracy
The better question is should the entirety of the Israeli government ever breath free air again…
ive been watching videos where the israeli spokepeople have this very weird way of addressing israel. their obsession with calling themselves a "democratic country with checks and balances" is a very odd introduction. no one announces their country like that. no one begins by saying "USA is a democratic country with checks and balances". to me it says that even they believe that they are not actually democratic.
Mehdi I live in Michigan. NO WAY is Genocide Joe getting my state.
@jacuzzihot
Ай бұрын
I still like Trump, but he also is problematic. A different type of criminal. Clearly of the type money talks, BS walks. It seems nobody cares about a politicians with moral values. The US is capitalistic. So Trump is the best candidate fitting that system.
@teotronia
Ай бұрын
why are you gonna try to kidnap the governor again?
@JMBvideo
Ай бұрын
Go Trump. Hes gonna be great for Palestine! (Remember this)
@talmudovsky
Ай бұрын
@@JMBvideo Actually, you are correct.
We do the U.S.A.
I'm an anarchist in Georgia, and I never voted for Biden or Clinton; only for Sanders, even writing his name in in the general. I've discovered that more and more democrats are becoming sympathetic to Palestine, and even more centrist Republicans are at least willing to acknowledge things in Palestine have gone too far. I don't think these people are going to vote for Trump, but I'm certain at least a few of them are going to have a tough time mustering up the willpower to go to the polls like they did in 2020 for Biden.
Not at all
NOPE
You saying that Christian Amanpour is a good journalist. Tell me if you got a short memory, do you remember the interview with the Israeli parliament spokesperson about the tunnels underneath the hospital and when they were supposed to be command and control centre and he turned around and said we built the tunnels and she went. Oh no, did you say that wrong did, I miss hear you and he said no we built those tunnels in the 80s because of the lack of ground for infrastructure. I don’t believe she is a good reporter
@jacuzzihot
Ай бұрын
She did her duty as very few reporters do and ask critical questions. The tunnels were first presented as 'intelligence'. Now we know, they knew it for sure and had the blue-prints, but even more outrageously, actually build these tunnels themselves. Well, they are underground facilities and not really tunnels. That is being very misleading and disingeneous of the Israeli and US govt. Most other reporters, do not ask any intrusive questions and just parrot US and Israeli propaganda and MSM. I can ask you a few questions that nobody asked and just shows how biased and stupid MSM is: 1) Did you know that Israel blew up 70 moving vehicles at the music festival? 2) Did you know that Israel has destroyed all the evidence of the music festival events? 3) Do you know about "Where is Daddy?", a program that explicitly targets women and children in dense residential areas, hoping a SUSPECTED Hamas fighter may be present? 4) Hamas are exclusively men. If Israel was targeting Hamas, most casualties should be men. In reality most casualties are women. There is a well-established statistics law of math that proves Israel is NOT targeting men, let's stand Hamas. 5) Are you aware of the Hamas rape article in the NYT and the 40 beheaded babies and that these were straight lies, now debunked, that were used to smear Hamas with false evidence? So why do we take any reports from Israel as the truth and any reports from Gaza as unverified or controversial? 6) Why would Hamas on Oct 7 kill many civilians if their objective was to take as many hostages as possible, because as is very evident today: this is their only bargaining chip? 7) Do you know what is a war crime and how many type of war crimes the IDF has committed? (Over 35)? 8) Do you know why the US and Israel are the only two countries in the UN that constantly block resolutions against Israel, despite that there are some 200 countries in the UN? 9) How come there is no other people I am aware of, that are being attacked by anti-people, other than the Jews? 10) Is it true very rich Jews use financial tools to twist political arms? 11) Did you know JFK wanted to ban AIPAC shortly before he got assassinated? 12) Did you know MLK, JFK, RFK, etc were all assassinated in a true govt conspiracy and not by a lone gunman? 13) Do you know there are just a few million people in Israel and yet we fund them with 100 billion dollars, which is like 10k free money per person? 14) Did you know that Israel's existence is based on a UN resolution, but that after Israel was established all other UN resolutions have been blocked or ignored? 15) Do you know what is the Nakba? 16) Do you agree that no Gazan is innocent? PLEASE PICK THREE QUESTIONS AND ASWER THEM HONESTLY.
Would be hilarious to hear a reporter ask Biden which the current year is, I doubt he knows lol. Just send him to a home already..
Come on Sam. 😮 *What a silly question!?* Israel will remain a Democracy as long as American support remains unconditional.
It’s gonna be fun watching all these heads vote for Biden! 🤣
only if they claim palestine is not a part, in which means.... what? occupying force or apartheid, but not a democracy
"The smart people around him...." who all except 1 have 2 passports... and democracy is not in danger anymore, democracy is over, under a democrat.
None of the entities in the region which Israel likes to denigrate as autocracies commits half the crime as it does.
There's no genocide of the Uygurs though, there are no people getting killed Xinjiang, being put into government education centers for a limited term, does not constitute a genocide. That is an example of actual malicious weaponisation of the term genocide.
Except he doesn’t have twenty this time.
Still?
Here is a question for you guys to ponder. Through history logically when a government is opposed to the citizens or not running the country well etc. there is usually an opposition that begins to gain traction. Granted that some may not win but it tends to happen. That is something we haven't seen in Israel which says something no?
@kindGSL
Ай бұрын
After their recent war on Gaza started, many Israelis moved away to safer places in Europe and the US. They lost population.
Medhi should be writing Bidens scripts- not the author of “four more years pause”
It would help viewers of this if the hosts defined what they THINK democracy is. From the statements and comments made their definition doesn't coincide with the accepted general understanding of the term. From a political science view democracy is defined as "the election of government by secret ballot by all citizens eligible to vote, in free and fair polls that are scrutinized by an independent and unfettered media." By that definition Israel qualifies. No argument against that is possible. Next define eligible voters. Ideally, that should mean all persons defined as citizens over the age of majority, without restriction!! Put the two together, and you get the ideal democracy. The USA doesn't qualify because you don't let prisoners vote, nor convicted but released people. In fact very few countries do outside of Scandinavian.
Yes it is in Israel proper. If you consider it one pie no Put international consensus would imply it's not one pie
I have to break the news to people about what Israelis think of non-Jews. You know what, just read the Old Testament or the Torah.
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It never was, i$rael can either be a Jewish state or a democratic state, it can't be both