Me: "Man this 48" LG OLED is great, I wish they or someone would make something smaller and slightly cheaper. I would buy it immediately." Gigabyte: "You said you wanted the exact same thing the competition is offering but higher priced?"

@joemarais7683

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, that's all gigabyte does, just takes what the market has, cut all available cost and increase the price. In this case, they just bought their own C1 stock and still made it worse.

@WCIIIReiniger

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was more like this. Gigabyte: People want an OLED monitor for their computers and not connect a TV. Just copy the C1 and slap a monitor sticker on the box. They will pay even more for it, since they are used to pay thousands of dollars for inferior monitors anyway.

@Beastw1ck

2 жыл бұрын

I know, right? I feel like the first company that makes a 32" 4k 120hz monitor for under $1,000 is going to sell a million of them

@e21big

2 жыл бұрын

@@WCIIIReiniger which some people might, if they truly removed all of the TV functionality from that monitor but they didn't - an OLED monitor that don't have any form of ABL at all could be a compelling offer to some but they just have to remove everything but that one thing people wanted gone

@TheGamerUnknown

2 жыл бұрын

The problem isn't really Gigabytes. There *aren't* any smaller OLED panels suitable for PC use on the market, so they worked with what they have. They don't make the panels.

I bought this based on review and IMO the capped peak full screen brightness under 150nits is in fact excellent. When using a display this large, the overall screen brightness is eye searing on 43" VA and IPS screens at even 300nits due to the sheer size, I have used several and no matter what you will get eye strain after a few hours. Its a literal wall of light. On the OLED however, black background generates zero passive screen emission with small pockets of light and full white is not eye searing, rather caps at 150nis which looks grey and is kind of busted, but I assure you, a 600+ nit 48" HDR flash-bang will send you blind at 1am in a dark room. If you use monitors a lot (ie for work), the OLED is much easier on the eyes and you can bring it down extremely, extremely dim and still be usable. Kind of random but thought I would mention in case someone reads.

@fss779

Жыл бұрын

did you run into any issues with the switch of messages? I ordered one, it worked out to be 1/2 the price for the C1 and figured to try it for that price point.

@prithvi1229

Жыл бұрын

So you're telling that OLED is better for office work. I get that but what about the burn in, that is something u don't need to worry on va right.

@TheLazyGamers

Жыл бұрын

150 nits is nothing, a lot of displays even in the monitor space and OLED space are already surpassing 1000+ nits. 150 nits just looks eye searing because most IPS monitors aren’t even 100 nits.

@CrazyAboutVinylRecords

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLazyGamers 1000 nit OLEDs? Name some by model.

@TheLazyGamers

Жыл бұрын

@@CrazyAboutVinylRecords Sony A95K, Samsung S95B, LG G2 are some of the ones that already surpass 1000 nits (S95B used to get to 1500 nits before it was patched). Albeit these are small window sizes such as 5-10% windows, but even TV’s like the S95B can hit 500 nits full field. My Panasonic Plasma from 2008 could reach over 200 nits full field, 150 nits full field is absurdly bad by todays standards

I really want to see a sub 40" OLED monitor or TV. Around the 38" mark is perfect for my deep corner desk

@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah at 48" its just way too big for most people. I'd love to see one at about 35" or so. Maybe the panels are still too expensive to produce at these sizes.

@TheCreator919

2 жыл бұрын

or just a 38" ultrawide oled

@Takashita_Sukakoki

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i really feel like even a 32 inch monitor is huge from a desk viewing distance. My ideal monitor would be an 27inch 1440p 240hz oled(never gonna happen but a man can dream :/ )

@SMGJohn

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCreator919 What is the point of ultrawide? Its like buying a car but its sliced in two so you just get the middle part LOL. Thats essentially what ultrawides are, you buy half a monitor.

@Koozwad

2 жыл бұрын

@@Takashita_Sukakoki 32" is the biggest for normal viewing distances. Any bigger and it's too big. 32 seems to be the sweet spot at around 60cm distance.

Happy to see another large screen review, my living room PC thanks you for growing into this area. Console gamers 'own' the living room but not all PC's are desktops, thrilled to see Hardware on Box is coming around to large screens for other PC uses.

In my country LG 48 C1 cost 1370USD and FO48U 2050USD after tax with actual exchange rate. Easy to chose :)

An incredible and informative review, as always. thank you so much for this!

Thank you for including input lag comparisons in your reviews, it’s why i watch your videos. I hope you guys continue to do so in the future (i noticed a recent upload didn’t have an imput lag comparison)

I am not even looking for a monitor but these reviews are still fun and informative to watch. very in depth about their performance. Nice work my australian MATES!!!!!!!!

Great video! With the FO48U now down to $799.99, I would argue it's the best monitor on the market in that price range (If you prefer a big screen).

I have been rocking the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U for a few months and have been very happy with it. It's not a perfect display, but it hits so many marks and I was able to snag it on sale at Newegg for $900 USD. It works great as a combo productivity/gaming display. I do web development and digital marketing on a MacBook Pro where it is an external display and have a gaming PC and Xbox Series X hooked up to it for gaming. The 43" size is the max I think is practical... I considered a LG C1, but felt the size cost and burn in risk for my use case was too high. Again I recommend to take a look at the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U as a large format monitor as I think it is the best value for money in that space!

Was wondering this as well! Thanks for this

ive legit been looking for this review for weeks now and the day i pull the trigger and buy one you release this this afternoon lol

Wish you went more into how the KVM feature works. That's a major difference between the panels for PC users.

I really wish the prices came down a great deal with a 32' option was out there, somehow the few 32' models are way way way over priced. but its good information on how the segment is progressing. thank you for that.

So happy HU did a review on this as I was seriously considering it. I didn't know the HDMI 2.1 was half-speed. That completely kills it for me.

I was actually wondering about this. Thanks!

i recently replaced an alienware aw3821dw with an LG C1 and its been amazing, most retailers offer some kind of extra warranty or protection that covers the dreaded fear of burn in aswell so its always the smart option to take that out, if it burns in at 12 months replace it, if you manage to get it to the 4 year mark before panel issues start showing then get it replaced...likely with a newer model too, its a no lose situation but only if you take out the extra warranty. cant speak highly enough of the C1, the ps5 just works, my 3080 pc just works, movies... just sublime, HDR awesome... the ultrawide i had was great but image quality isnt really that close at all, OLED is amazing.

@michaelthomas7975

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same exact thing. I replaced my aw3821dw and would never go back after buying the LG C1. It works great with my RTX 3090

I have owned the LG CX 48" for over a year and use it as my only PC monitor. It is hands-down the best monitor I have ever owned. The small annoyances such as auto brightness dimming is quickly overlooked when you see the panel in person. I even bought the five year coverage that included image retention, but there is absolutely no image retention to speak of. If you have been on the fence with the LG CX or C1, just do it. I'm not sure why anyone would pay more for the Gigabyte model when they are most likely just getting their panels from LG.

@Dracossaint

2 жыл бұрын

No it's been confirmed. it's literally the same panel from LG, it's the evo one to be specific. Well it definitely feels like they screwed it up a bit.

@jessepotter365

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 Thanks for your concern, Drunk Husband. You are obviously too inebriated to understand what I wrote. I will certainly enjoy returning it for a newer model should I happen to get burn in.

@FunKaYxxD1sCO

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of using it as a monitor with my pc. I have the C1 but pretty much same thing. You got certain settings you need to apply first to prevent burn it?

@FunKaYxxD1sCO

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dracossaint I bet the hardware inside is gonna blow even though they managed to use a EVO screen.

@williamg7138

2 жыл бұрын

Eeek my C1 has burn in 💀

Awesome, crazy detailed review. Thank you!!

I learned so much. Thank you!

Screen dimming you can't disable tells me Gigabyte weren't too confident they could avoid burn-in long enough without it.

@LocutusH81

2 жыл бұрын

Gigabyte just isnt confident enough, that their customers are smart enough not to burn it in by intentional exaggerated idiotic use cases.

@N7sensei

2 жыл бұрын

@@LocutusH81 lol

@Gungrave123

2 жыл бұрын

@@LocutusH81 burn in is a lot easier to happen than TV manufacturers are leading you to believe

@gixxar6

2 жыл бұрын

It's the same on the LG panel, though. My LG CX 55 has burn-in from playing Rust with brightness on max (team member names and health and food bars). Was noticable after 6 months.

@stevekjr9563

2 жыл бұрын

@@gixxar6 A. 100 Brightness is nuts. B. Are you sure it isn't just image retention?

Bought one a month ago and I'm so happy with it. (It's cheaper in Australia compared to the C1 and I have a rtx2000 series so dont have HDMI 2.1)

@geiers6013

2 жыл бұрын

Still way worse than the C1. But if you are happy then it is ok.

@orangearancia9885

2 жыл бұрын

​@@geiers6013 atm, FO48U cost about 750 USD in Australia, which is brilliant

@geiers6013

2 жыл бұрын

@@orangearancia9885 For that price it is a no brainer. Where I live in europe the C1 is typically much cheaper.

Such a nice review! Thank you!…it would be interesting to compare the LGC1/Aorus F048U with the Odyssey neo G9 (with most recent updated frimware)!

that minitor on in this video on my c1 looks amazing

I have the c1, yes 48" is to big for most desks. Mine is on a floor stand, would have mounted it to a wall if I wasn't renting. Best tv/monitor I've owned

@2foolish

2 жыл бұрын

Damn you’re renting and buying 1500 dollar monitors 😬

@abnr1983

2 жыл бұрын

Do you use it mostly as a media consumption monitor or more of a static desktop monitor?

@DEVILTAZ35

2 жыл бұрын

@@abnr1983 As a static desktop monitor it is a bad idea lol. It is rubbish at fine text for PC.

a tip for anyone concerned about using such a large monitor on your desk, personally I would just opt for a vesa floor stand and move the monitor further away and you end up with even more desk real-estate when compared to a traditional setup

@Wassenhoven420

10 ай бұрын

TY

I'm used to my c1 48" now after using it for a month. Wish the stand was a bit smaller though. OLED pixel brightness at 100 and brightness at 50. Logo dimming at high with a black screen saver. So far so good. Got a 4 year warranty that covers burn in too.

@sweedishpie360

2 жыл бұрын

@𝘿!𝙘𝙠 Riding ǤƗяℓ Violet that's what I did lol

Love your work guys! Will you be doing the qled version of this bad boy? the Aorus FV43U? its Cheeper but seems to be in the same tv/monitor braket making it apealing? for someone like me on a tighter budget?

I rock a c1 oled. Love it. Highly recommend others look into oled too. it does require some babying with regard to the burn-in. Not much. Just vary window sizes and positions. But the size should be noted. The deep desk requirement is overblown. You can use a regular desk and just treat the display as if it were a multi-monitor setup. If you must have your windows maximized all the time, a 48-in is probably not for you. For movies, it's great to sit back and watch. I haven't done too much full-screen gaming that requires mouse and keyboard, but it is easy enough to resize your desktop so it only uses part of the screen (not recommend for regular use as it will cause uneven wear across the screen). LG's 48in C1 oled is the best monitor i have ever owned by a lot. And if you can handle the few (but significant) downsides, oled is the way to go.

@Serandi

3 ай бұрын

I use a LG OLED C1 65 inches with my 5800X3D & 4090 PC and still I'm so unbelievably happy with it! I set screensaver to one minute and there's absolutely no risk for any burn-in!

I use the C1 as a secondary monitor. It's amazing. I use a black background and no toolbars on it...its just a black screen. Just get the C1.

@williamg7138

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 55inch c1 and I never game on it... I primarily use my AW3821

@nuggetpiece

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 dont like the best display tech available? Cant afford it? Ill send my CX to your moms basement when it starts to burn in.

@ChaoticFoxxie

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 that’s on you I have had doles over the past few years and neevr got burn in even with gaming tried the whole mini led tech this year and went back to getting a c1 oled that tech still doesn’t touch oled episcally looking at them side by side

Great review as always. Would like to ask, if you have any plans to review the AOC AG274QXM. It's DisplayHDR 1000 Certified at a price point of around 1100 Euros, which does make it very appealing in my opinion. I don't know how availability is in Australia, but I believe it should start appearing in Germany at the start of November. Thank you and have a great day!

Glad I got the C1 48”. I’m currently running it at 1440p without display scaling so there are black bars all around the picture. I’m essentially left with a 32” 1440p 120hz OLED, which is awesome. You do of course need the space to put the TV on your desk.

0:40 how dare you show us such epic wallpaper without a link to it. Please share it that would look amazing on my LG CX 48 desktop monitor :)

I'm still waiting for a 32" inch 4k OLED high refresh rate monitor....

@MotoCampAdv

2 жыл бұрын

Gigabyte M32U is worth the $799 USD

@anakondase

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoCampAdv It's an IPS, not OLED.

@MotoCampAdv

2 жыл бұрын

@@anakondase still a good value

@anakondase

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoCampAdv Perhaps. That wasn't what the post you replied to asked for though.

@glenwilliams7204

2 жыл бұрын

lg has one, if u have 4,000 plus to blow

After watching some videos from colleagues before watching this, can I just point out that the quality of your videos is just the best,... by far. And I mean the quality of the image, you guys must have a great setup. What do you use for a camera and for lighting?

Just ordered the Fo48u. Can’t wait to game on it

This review has started to make more sense now that the FO48U is on sale here in Australia. I was looking to pick up an LG C1 48" but they were never below $2000aud. I just picked up my FO48U on sale at $1099aud which makes it almost half the price of the C1. Even when not on sale these monitors are still selling significantly cheaper than the LG tv's. Its hard to pass up an excellent OLED panel for so cheap. ABL hasn't annoyed me as much as I initially though it would and overall Im loving it. I compare it to my CX 55" and it holds up very well. Will have to report back in a couple months to see if Ihave accumulated any burn in. Thanks for the review.

@alejandroromito

Жыл бұрын

Hi Big Daddy. How did that Review go? I still don't know what to do, whether to go for a more expensive C1, or the cheaper Giga.

@TheMaca1991

Жыл бұрын

@@alejandroromito Hey mate, yea I've had zero issues with the panel and really love it. The only little annoying things is the ABL can be a little aggressive when you have a full screen white, like a web page for example. Otherwise, I've had zero burn in and I've already clocked up a couple hundred hours. Great purchase IMO.

@alejandroromito

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMaca1991 thanks so much! Did you have that problem that many users talk about, continuous use for more than 4 hours, and the monitor turns off by itself to do maintenance?

@TheMaca1991

Жыл бұрын

@@alejandroromito Nah, so I think mine takes quite a bit of hours before it pops up with that notification. And even if it does, a quick press on the monitors toggle switch removes it, and the process won't start until you power down the monitor, and the process takes about 5 minutes max. It has never just turnt itself off whilst in use.

@alejandroromito

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMaca1991 that's Sweet to hear! Thanks so much!

1:28 At least someone remembers the turing series, my poor 1660 🥲

The display port lets you get 4k 120hz on the M1 series of apple products, which don't support 4k 120 over HDMI 2.1, even with display port to HDMI adapters.

my TV that I used for quite a while was LED 32" Sansui that was supposed to be 1080p but I think it was actually 1366x768 I always had to adjust the edges of the picture

Great review as always but I would hesitate to Call the c1 hdmi 2.1 “full bandwidth” since it isn’t the full 48, it’s 40.

@guspaz

2 жыл бұрын

While I'd tend to agree (it shouldn't be called full bandwidth), in practice the only effect will be to reduce the maximum colour depth from 12-bit to 10-bit, which users shouldn't be able to notice in practice. So, don't call it full bandwidth because it isn't, but it's not nearly as big of a problem as a 24 Gbps max.

currently the gigabyte is about 700 dollars cheaper and a great buy. In Australia costing about 1099 and lg c1 costing close to 2000. Wish it was the opposite but at the moment gigabyte is the way to go. Update: So i've bought two, one for series x and one for the computer. bought both close to 1100 AUD . Awesome buy.

The funny thing is, my last 2 monitors I have used have been VA panels and they have both suffered from burn in after 1.5yrs. I recently purchased an LG C2 48” as the replacement of my 49” ultra-wide monitor that failed. I use my monitor for both work and home use. Work/productivity for 8-10hrs a day M-F and then I might PC game later that evening for 2-4hrs. We will see how long this TV lasts as a monitor. I have a 5yr protection plan that covers burn in and there is nowhere in the terms and conditions that states I can’t use the TV as a monitor or uses the caveat outside of normal use in their verbiage. The only stipulation they specifically place is an indoor TV that is used outdoors is not covered. I called the support line twice and verified with two reps and a supervisor that an OLED TV can be used as a monitor and would be covered under their plan. Time will tell

Great video, as always! Can you please do a test on the new Samsung odyssey g7a? Would love to see how good the display really is.

Can't wait for 32"ish oled monitors ! It is a shame that 1440p will not catch this train, but really looking forward for 4k oled pc gaimin !

@maugre316

2 жыл бұрын

There's the LG 32EP950 and ASUS PA32DC (both using a JOLED 32" 4K 60Hz panel) but they're not really gaming monitors. According to DisplayNinja, AUO has a prototype 32" 4K 144Hz OLED panel but there's nothing available to consumers yet. Hopefully next year we'll start seeing these, but expect costs to be high!

@konga382

2 жыл бұрын

By the time OLED monitors hit the mainstream, graphics cards should be powerful enough to render native 4K without a sweat. A 1440p OLED monitor would be real nice to have right now though, for sure.

@maugre316

2 жыл бұрын

@@konga382 TBH, my 6800 XT already handles most of what I play at 4K at potentially much higher than 60 FPS, thus I'd be quite happy to have a 4K 144Hz OLED right now. The main problem with that is lack of DP 2.0, which will necessitate a GPU upgrade (or sidegrade) to take full advantage.

Couple of things ; HDMI 2.1 is pretty much unsupported in anything other than Windows and will likely continue to be the case due the HDMI consortia basically saying DSC can't be implemented in the open. This makes anything that needs to be fed by HDMI2.1 to achieve i.e 8k@60 or above or VRR impossible on an Operating system using Open Standards drivers i.e Linux/FreeBSD. Especially concerning given SteamDeck and other platforms. In summary the inclusion of Display Port is the real feature here - and I was uncertain how you were driving the panel from the review. I strongly recommend you do testing on a modern Linux Distro (i.e Fedora etc) so compare what is broken in the various vendor implementations as part of your reviews. VRR can be implemented over HDMI2.0 but is not standard so it would be interesting to know which panels the vendors have taken time to make sure Open compatibility is implemented. There is a potential work around by using DP1.4->HDMI2.1 active adaptors for at least High refresh rate support, however VRR won't be negotiated through these adaptors.

@drewwilson8756

11 ай бұрын

Good points but I think covering more niche topics would be best handled by a channel that specializes in niche topics. Then again not very many channels I have come across go into the depth that Hardware Unboxed does. I would love it if they included some kind of measurement on ecosystem interoperability.

Excellent review, specially its highlighting how it does not compete well with the C1, even if it performs relatively well for an Oled. Exact same panel clearly will not guarantee same feature set and/or same end user experience

@geiers6013

2 жыл бұрын

It does not even perform good for an Oled compared to even last years Lg Oleds.

I have the LG C1 as a TV and loved it so much I bought a 48" to consolidate my TV/ / dual monitor setup. Like I said, I love it as a TV but hate it as a monitor. There are probably quite a few gripes people have but (as a programmer) my 2 were: 1: Sometimes the text looks blocky or to thin and has extra white around the letters making readability difficult. 2: LG has an OLED protection feature to dim the monitor for static content . Usually when I'm coding, it dims on me and is annoying. Even when I'm typing constantly. I guess the color scheme is not changing enough to trigger a significant change so the display dims to protect the features. In general, I think I'll never get an OLED as a monitor. I'll switch back to my 2K non OLED monitor and wait for a new technology for monitors.

@bournechupacabra

2 жыл бұрын

Your text problem sounds like sharpening halos. Was the sharpness/"super resolution" turned off? A lot of times these features are on by default but they actually make things look way worse.

14:34 I have seen on reddit that most daily desktop users of the (CX/C1) have their OLED light brightness set to 25~35 for a range that is just above or under 100nits. This is the very key setting to use 48" OLEDs as a daily desktop monitor, Linus set his brightness to 80 as he said in his Burn-in video. (youtube hWrFEU_605g?t=373). And some Techtubers have their 6 months after review as desktop use, it is very much possible to use this as a daily desktop monitor; but you need to have the settings right on the TV and Windows 10.

@SMGJohn

2 жыл бұрын

The idea to lit up your room so much its like sitting on a sunny beach in Havana, is stupid you do not need a bright room, the idea that we damage our eyes if our room is too dark and the display is too bright, it does in fact have nothing to do with that but the blue light emitted from the display thats actually the danger, and OLED's these days barely has any blue light emission thats dangerous. So its a moot point, I dunno whats more logical, buy 2000 euro display just to get it bright enough, or buy 10 euro blinds for your fucking windows.

@N0N0111

2 жыл бұрын

​@@mrfujisawa I hope it is clear at LG Electronics that they need a desktop mode with like +100nits, it solves so much annoying issues with the picture quality. 10:38 The power consumption will also be a lot lower, my guess would be like 60-70Watts when set at 100nits settings. ​ @Mr Fujisawa - You have any clue how many Watts the TV is using at 38 brightness at 120nits?

@N0N0111

2 жыл бұрын

@@SMGJohn by Andy Bassett Feb 5, 2020 LG Display has received official verification of the low blue light emissions of its OLED TV displays from leading global safety certification company, UL. The ‘Low Blue Light Display’ Verified Mark from UL (originally Underwriters Laboratories Inc) is granted to display products when their blue light emission meets the “risk exempt” standard (100W/sr/m2) set by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). During testing, LG Display’s OLED TV panels were found to emit 50 percent lower blue light than the standard, or about 60 percent of blue light that the same-size premium LCD TV displays on the market are reported to emit. However, the verification raises a few questions. Last year LG Display were awarded ‘Eye Comfort’ certification for low blue light parameters in its OLED TV displays by TUV Rheinland, a similar inspection and certification outfit and it's not clear why LG Display has moved from TUV to UL in just 12 months. Dr. Chang-Ho Oh, Executive Vice President & Head of the TV Business Unit at LG Display was in charge of putting the company’s OLED panels though both certification programmes. It’s also not clear whether the UL validation is only relevant to the latest 2020 range of OLED panels or if it supersedes the TUV certification across all recent OLED ranges. It’s possible the UL badge is more well known as a mark of safety than TUV in the US market where several TV manufacturers plan to release OLED models for the first time. While the details of the testing and the rationale for the change in the testing partner remain unknown, the bottom line is that LG Display’s OLED panels have certifiably lower blue light emissions which will result in reduced eye fatigue and sleep disturbance for viewers. Given increasing awareness among consumers about the effects of overexposure to screens that emit too much blue light and the rise in ‘Dark Modes’ on devices such as mobile phones to help ease strain on the eyes, LG Display expects that the UL Verified Mark will further underscore the value of OLED TVs to consumers. Since 2020 will be a year that sees new LG Display clients such as Sharp, Vizio and Skyworth all releasing OLED TVs, the company will encourage its global OLED TV brands and distributors to use the Mark. Dr. Chang-Ho Oh said, “This UL Verified Mark makes it clear that LG Display’s OLED TV displays exceed the highest international standards with regard to eye safety. These OLED displays are already touted for their unmatched picture quality and design flexibility in the market, and now we expect that OLED’s recognized value in terms of eye health will further convince consumers to opt for OLED TVs down the road.” Mirko Bautz, Vice President of Global Accounts at UL, added, “UL empowers trust by helping demonstrate how a brand and its products are responsible and worthy of consumer confidence.” He went on, "As a globally recognized company with deep experience and expertise in the field of test evaluation, we are excited that our methods confirmed that LG Display is delivering on their claims.” With increasing numbers of OLED TVs predicted to be sold over the next three years (shipments are forecast to grow to 5.4 million units in 2020, increasing to 7.3 million units in 2021 and over 12 million units in 2023), what do AVForums readers think of having the ‘Low Blue Light Display’ badge for TVs?

@stevekjr9563

2 жыл бұрын

Linus also used the pixel refresher feature and it basically removed all his "burn-in" which was really just image retention.

@Svetlozar92

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 I have my monitor at 10% when reading on a white page.

Now this is a review i've been dying to see. This and the Eve Spectrum :D

Hey man! Love your videos. Could I please get your honest opinion on which monitor I should choose between the Asus PG279QM or the Alienware AW2721D. I really care about the image quality and would like your opinion. 👍

Can you guys please do a review of the ACER X34 GS or x34 S or both would be great :) thank you im in the market for one so hard to choose

I hate it when the stands are on the ends of the display, I prefer a centered stand for versatility on placement

@SuperSuperka

2 жыл бұрын

Ha-ha, that is nervous situation kzread.info/dash/bejne/qneZj6iNn7KaacY.html

@CaveyMoth

2 жыл бұрын

I have my C1 on a Pearlesmith TV stand that is unobtrusive and actually kind of nice looking.

On sale for 780 bucks, so tempting

Is the full-window brightness limit from the panel, or does it just need better power handling and/or heat sinks behind the panel?

man you look good on... this exact display big fella.

EIZO says: in an office with normal brightness of 300-500 lux, the display brightness should be adjusted to around 100-150 cd / m2. Usually a gamer or a person watching a movie does it in even less lighted environments. So, set the brightness of your OLED to level 38 and forget about the burn in, otherwise buy an LCD.

@cody8860

Жыл бұрын

26 brightness is 100cd/m2. I calibrated mine to 27 and bump it up to 32 if it's midday and I don't care about accuracy. You shouldn't be using it with anything higher unless you need max brightness for HDR content where you'll mostly benefit from the nits in the peaks.

I'm going to ask the important question here - does it blow up? That seems to be the ongoing theme for Gigabyte's products of recent going from power supplies through to graphics cards and more recently tweated 'gaming chairs'.

@catbertz

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve

@benjy117

2 жыл бұрын

Don't you know that all Taiwanese products blow up?

@andersjjensen

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjy117 You... should probably check every manufacturer of every computer component you own. Short of Intel, who has their own fab, everything in your computer is from Taiwan unless you have some ungodly low quality shit like Biostar or Gainward from China. ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock, EVGA, XFX, Sapphire and PowerColor are all Taiwan-producing companies. AMD produces all their chips in Taiwan. Nvidia produces all their data center chips in Taiwan, but produces their consumer chips in Korea. And the list goes on with sub-component manufactures like Realtek, Broadcom, Ralink, ASMedia, Ricoh, etc.

for my use gigabyte model will fit like a glove , as a developer and casual gamer having DP / USB type c / KVM switch built in is everything that I wanted so I think it's depends of the use cases hope they make a 42 inch using the latest panel from LG C2 line

@jonval3136

Жыл бұрын

How has the monitor been as a developer?

Interesting note on the power consumption is that the OLED was a far bigger screen. So is it really that much less efficient when it's over twice the screen area and around twice the power consumption as well?

The entire Aorus monitor lineup: "It not a bad product when seen in isolation"

The bandwidth limited hdmi ports are a joke lol

I have the LG 48" CX as my monitor and loveeeeee it for gaming and watching tv at my PC desk ... ryzen 5800x, 32GB 3600mhz, RTX 3060 Ti

Thanks for such an in depth review! I'm just curious one thing though- - How dim does it get when using aim stabilizer? I'm interested in motion clarity, hence my interest in this "monitor". I haven't seem anything outside of Benq's DyAc being worth buying. Should i stick with my tn panel? (xl2546)

@jetpil0t

2 жыл бұрын

I have this monitor and it does drop brightness significantly, takes brightness from 100% to maybe 50%, which if you consider the full screen brightness isnt excellent anyway, that's not great, though in low brightness this monitor still provides insane contrast (unlike TN or IPS). I personally don't think the reduction in what little motion blur exists is worth it, for example I can notice a much clearer image in CSGO (its way better) than on a good 4ms 27" 144hz 4K monitor, so while I would want black frame insertion on the IPS screen, because you can't get sub 4ms pixel response, and it turns out this is super noticeable at 144hz, let alone 240hz, on a 1mss OLED it feels super not worth it, though nice inclusion. You also have to toggle off adaptive sync, which is tedious when switching between esports and regular titles. If you want the fastest possible, I think this is probably it, though for esports I think you want to sit kind of far back from the display ie farther than a desk allows.

Man I wish I could find a glossy 27 inch monitor. Really hate the snow flake effect of the anti reflective coating on matte displays. Makes the sharpness of 4K look way less noticeable and impressive.

@Zetharion1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah its a shame that manufacturers are so anti glossy on the lower sizes. I hate the matte look on 100% of the monitors available now.

@lowzyyy

2 жыл бұрын

Thats probably why i dont see any difference between 27 1080p and 27 1440p. Glossy loooks so much better

Thanks for a great review as always. Was Cleartype disabled or just optimized using the wizard here? I just don't get how people mange to get so much burn in, have used my GX for over a year as a work monitor (90% of the time) with max brightness and "service menu hacks" and still don't have a hint of burn in (surprisingly enough).

@CaveyMoth

2 жыл бұрын

You give me hope that my C1 will last many years. I try to avoid doing desktop work on it. Anything with a task bar or static icons makes me nervous.

Just bought this on scorptec for 1099, very pleased considering it's half the price of the c1

I have C7 and B9 Oleds. So they are now 2 and 4 years old. The B9 is used mainly for gaming, sports and youtube and shows zero signs of burn in. The C7 is in the living room and is used mostly to watch tv series and movies and as finns most of our content comes with subtitles. The C7 has started to show signs of diminished ability to reach bright scenes with the pixels around the area where subtitles usually are so for example if there is a red scene you can clearly see that all the pixels in the bottom part of the screen can't keep up. It's a abit annoying to me, but my wife didn't even notice before I told her.

I'd like to see a 34" UWQHD OLED for gaming. cold not care less about 40+" screens.

@hmmmyes6934

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, can't decide between LG 34GN850 and 34GP950, main difference is that the GP950 has better brightness and color accuracy, not to mention that the price difference is $500+ between them, and the other thing is that the 34GP38 is impossible to get. Would love an OLED 34" monitor though, I'd save up as much as I could for a quality one.

@allyourfuturebelongstochina

2 жыл бұрын

@@hmmmyes6934 Would be happy with a 27" 1440p OLED.

@roscobosco500

2 жыл бұрын

I'm on the flip side. I can't stand smaller than 50 inch and have two 50inch TVs as my monitors. Was a pain trying to find a 120hz for one though

@hmmmyes6934

2 жыл бұрын

@@allyourfuturebelongstochina My cousin has a 27" 1440p IPS monitor, after trying it I thought I'd definitely buy one, but then I got the opportunity to try out my friends LG 34GN850. I legit didn't ever think a monitor could be so immersive lmao.

@mrfluffyhedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

@@Android-ng1wn I'm still saying it and am lamenting the fact that the new pixel 6 is so much bigger than the 5. I hate not reaching everything when handling my phone with one hand.

I picked up the Aorus FV43U because 48” just seemed too big and I was nervous about running an OLED as a desktop for 10 hours per day. I have to say the 43U has been amazing!

@Shizzmoney74

2 жыл бұрын

I have one too; there's a lot of management in changing the modes for each thing you are doing, but for the price, its pretty good!

Should I go for it instead LG38GN950-B for similar pricing? Sounds stupid but I have some doubts to which one commit for next years. Mix of office work and content consumption, gaming.

Honestly my CX 48" oled I use as a my monitor is the best choice I've ever made. Everytime I turn it on I'm impressed and that's after well over a year of use.

Aren't there other OLED tv's with similar specs, but with HDR? like the Philips 48OLED806?

@michaelhammond8932

2 жыл бұрын

But it's not a "gaming" monitor 😂

@Dick_Valparaiso

2 жыл бұрын

The tv's don't have the low latency. At best you might get under 8ms on a tv vs the just over 1ms with this monitor. I game with my PC and PS5 on a standard 49-inch tv. I mostly use a controller and (for me) it's proven to be a nice setup.

@CaveyMoth

2 жыл бұрын

Sony A80J (More expensive. Better upscaling of content that isn't native 4k. Less feature rich in terms of VRR). Vizio OLED (Cheaper, with a LOT of compromises).

Even the C1 is hundreds of euro's cheaper here. There's literally 0 reason to buy a gaming monitor if it's the best picture quality that you're after.

@marklouieadame

2 жыл бұрын

Also in can run 120hz on oled and you wint have issues with tearing as the pixels react instantaneously its already given you get a non tearing and picture quality at the same time. Its just not for productivity usage and will surely geta a burn in.

Got a LG C1 48" last week for 1.3k $ , that's the normal price in my country Tho they gave me a 3 year panel warranty . It looks fantastic tho I feel colors looks much vibrant in HDR in my Samsung QN90A i have in our hall. But QLED's are too bright for bedrooms. Happy my with my purchase so far , Hoping it'll last 4-5 years so I can finally jump to 8k in half a decade.

Can you please share details of the various PBP modes it supports - That will be key for me

This is on sale for $799.99 at the moment. Would you recommend it at its current lower price over the similar priced 4k 120/144Hz computer monitors?

@stefanrenn-jones9452

2 жыл бұрын

the only problem with this monitor in practice is that its not 240/360hz. Going from 60 to this was slightly underwhelming at first, but the motion clarity in fps games puts it ahead of all non oled panels below say.....180ish fps. Buy this then upgrade to the 240hz model that is going to arrive behind the c3 or 4 lg series. Presumably gigabyte will still be able to offer a significantly lower price by relying on dsc like this model.

@Jared-e

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanrenn-jones9452 Are you high bro!? You’re complaining that it’s not 360hz at 4K and OLED? There’s so many high refresh rate monitors for esports games and other FPS’s. This is not aimed at that market. This is for movies and games where graphical fidelity is preferred over ultra-high refresh rate. This is perfect for games with ray tracing and gorgeous visuals.

This model is on sale right now (April 4th) at MWave for only $1099. I wish I had the money to buy it right now! It was 1899 at release. EDIT! I’m picking one up at this price!!

Was this test done with the latest F05 firmware update installed ? The update is supposed to improve HDR performance / brightness .

Hi! Would you still recommend the LG34GN850-B for UW 1440p/144Hz or is there some new one being better? Thank you so much and greetings from Germany 😃

Is it possible to test an old school CRT monitor, just to see how it compares with our modern monitors?

@SaruwatariMasahiro

2 жыл бұрын

up until early 2010s FPS pro players still played on them. Many of them could hit 240hz. Problem is they had to reduce their resolution to reach that. So it wasn't that sought after back then. Lack of ghosting and no response lag was the real reason people kept them. They also blasted your eyes with way more radiation than is socially acceptable nowadays(you get more from many sources now anyway) .

I bought the C1 a few weeks ago and I'm very happy with my desicion. In the End with a Cashback Option it set me back €1200. The RTX 2080 in my pc limits the display to 60Hz with HDR, but i don't need more when playing scenic single player games. You can turn on 120hz mode, there you Notice that the Colors look a bit off, but thats not a Problem for me, when I'm playing Valorant or CS:GO. For Movies I use the the Netflix App on the TV and there I was blown away, when i first saw some Dolby Vison Content. It just looks so damn awesome.

@geiers6013

2 жыл бұрын

You can just use 1440p120hz with hdr. I did this to before I bought a hdmi 2.1 gpu. 1440p still looks decent if you are not sitting very close to your C1. Especially in csgo and valorant I would say 120hz is far more important than 4k. Also hdr is more important than 4k I think, so I would definitely play at 1440p.

I have this panel, goes on sale occasionally for around $100 off. It gets used for a variety of tasks (multi windowed productivity, PC/PS5 games, movies, etc). It is more than bright enough from about a meter away unless you are in full sun with a very dark scene. Recommendations - install new firmware, brightness 100% use windows sdr/hdr adjustment to your liking, if you hear clicking between restarts/sleep cycles let the compensation cycle run (5-10 minutes), panel protection completely gets rid of image retention (power down with joystick, takes ~ hour). It's an alternative to the LG bloat you get with a C1. Review is correct in regards to price. Inflation and profit margin are definite drawbacks.

Is it possible to test the gamma flicker in VRR mode? This is one of the most annoying issues with LG C1 when playing VRR games on the PC and notice flickering in the dark scenes.

Quick update as someone owns this, the display has a very tedious panel protection feature that anyone using/owning this will know and hate. This is basically where reviews still fall short and "old skool" owners forums are way better resources of information. After about 4 hours of use or so, it will force off the display and the LED will flash for 5 minutes exactly, this "panel protection" feature is not particularly welcome at the end of a PUBG round, or a CSGO match, almost makes this monitor unusable for any competitive gaming. Even work, as I had this monitor go into panel protection when I was on a Zoom call. Busted boys, straight busted. Hence the discounts as I think this is probably going to be one of the most returned products ever. It looks amazing, but using it is really annoying.

@alejandroromito

Жыл бұрын

Hi there. And was there any news on this issue with any firmware? Any official statement?

@vgamedude12

Жыл бұрын

Reading this pretty much sold me against one. Yikes

Why would anyone use HDR on desktop outside games/videos?

@DarkReturns1

2 жыл бұрын

Because you have to turn on HDR in windows and adjust Nvidia settings every time you want to use it. I typically just leave HDR on all the time

@omarcomming722

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkReturns1 Then turn it on or off before playing a game, unless you're switching between HDR/non-HDR games 10 times a day it's a much better alternative then leaving it on for desktop where it's just a downgrade nearly all the time and brings nothing to the table.

Seeing thumbnail.... screaming YESSS!!

Finally the video I was waiting for 🙌

@DownUnder43

2 жыл бұрын

@ᴛᴀᴘ ᴍᴇ ᴀɴᴅ sᴇᴇ Aurora wtf 🤦😆

One other benefit for the Gigabyte that wasn't mentioned here is that (at least in the Australian market) the Gigabyte comes with a 3 year warranty, while the LG base warranty is only 1 year. I think that could be a pretty major factor for a lot of potential buyers who are considering that two products, especially considering that these days the Gigabyte is also a good $500 or so cheaper at advertised prices.

Hey well, it's the same price and has display port, might actually be a solid option if you're using a monitor for this. Pray to the burn-in gods.

@CUSTARDP00DLETK

2 жыл бұрын

Best used as a "secondary" gaming screen. DO all regular desktop work on a normal monitor, then move over to the OLED for gaming (space dependent OFC).

@8bitchiptune420

2 жыл бұрын

You can get LG C1 for 300 less

@jonessii

2 жыл бұрын

@@8bitchiptune420 and with bluetooth you can't turn off, ads and an insanely bad menu that you can only use with a remote. No USB hub, no displayport. It ought to be cheaper for the garbage user experience.

@conza1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@8bitchiptune420 Yeah I found $100 less, $2200 for this and $2100 for the C1 (AUD). It's pretty niche but if your GPU can do 4K and doesn't have HDMI 2.1 (there's a handful of GPUs like that), you may still consider this, shame it doesn't completely match the C1 though that would've been nice.

@superior96

2 жыл бұрын

It has worse backlight strobing, worse brightness, less features and overall just so slightly slower in all input lag and motion tests (although, to be honest, most definitely imperceptible in this last point), and is slightly more expensive. Literally only reason to buy it is if you need a display like this now and don't have a hdmi 2.1 graphics card.

Can you comment anything on the luminance overshoot/crawling blacks on this monitor? This is an issue on LG WOLED panels. F.e. for me it is the point of decision on dumping my CX and switching to gigabyte if the latter does not have this issue ...

can you provide the best picture settings to use for console gaming? thanks.

It's unfathomable how Sony and Gigabyte buy LG panels, make a worse software and hardware offering (no VRR/smart TV/upscaling/few HDMI 2.1 ports), and charge a higher price. I do like the stand on Gigabyte though: my LG48's stand eats up like 20 or 30cm in depth

@adamkamieniarz9223

2 жыл бұрын

Its all about DP, so you can get 4k120 without HDMI 2.1 source.

@dynastes4938

2 жыл бұрын

Its basic economics, actually. This is not a TV, but a gaming monitor. Therefore, its market is much smaller (intensified by its high price, but even at 500 dollars less only few people would buy it, since its practical use case is so limited) and its price will be higher, since a smaller range of units sold will have to cover costs for R&D, marketing, production and so on. People keep complaining about how (gaming) monitors are so much more expensive relative to the features offered when compared to TVs - this is the reason right here. For the FO48U specifically, you'll also have to add the factor of street pricing to having been able to drop yet, since the model reached the market only recently.

@SMGJohn

2 жыл бұрын

If you can afford a 48 inch OLED, you can afford a VESA supported stand for like 50 euro or 100 euro for a gas arm.

@SMGJohn

2 жыл бұрын

@@owowowdhxbxgakwlcybwxsimcwx Do not connect it then to the internet then LOL....

how long do you reckon until we have 32" OLED 144hz 4K monitor with backlight strobing

@jinx20001

2 жыл бұрын

very very very long indeed since there's no backlight to strobe.

@arc11honist

2 жыл бұрын

@@jinx20001 ahh jeez sure black frame insertion. u know what im talking about

@arc11honist

2 жыл бұрын

@jzo are u also memeing? didn't u see how much it reduced blur for this monitor at 11:08

@jinx20001

2 жыл бұрын

@@arc11honist yeh no I was playing, I know what you mean, smaller Oleds are a long way off yet I think, I know LG is releasing a 42inch next year that everyone is looking forward to but 32 is a ways away I think just because people don't buy OLED typically for monitor use so they keep it TV sized for the vast majority of sales they will make which intend to use as a TV.

@arc11honist

2 жыл бұрын

@jzo i use a VG27AQL1A and i do see a difference in clarity with backlight strobing when playing apex legends and other fps where you track moving targets. Im also the kind of person that turns off motion blur, DoF and hate FXAA/TAA and certain DLSS implementations cause they all reduce image clarity. So i guess it also depends on how sensitive the person looking at it to shifts in sharpness and what kind of game is being played

I've bene wondering why its almost always the right side of the panels have the largest deviation from the center vs the left side.

I got myself a 48" CX about a year ago for the PS5 I pre-ordered. I'm a little sad that I can get the 48" C1 for as little as $1100, $400 less than I paid for my CX. Oh well, I guess that's the price of adopting stuff sooner. Can't wait to see some affordable mini-LED monitors hit the market.

It's not perfect, but we're finally seeing OLED monitors come to the market so you know other companies will follow suit. The fact Gigabyte is fairly new to the monitor market and already have so many monitors with such great price to performance is awesome. Can't wait until we get ultra wide or 32" OLED monitors.

@randoir1863

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but anything smaller than a 48" Oled monitor isn't happening. Oled scales upin size just fine, but anything under 48" isn't likely to happen as the technology isn't cost effective to make at smaller sizes.

@ReikazeRambles

2 жыл бұрын

@@randoir1863 LG literally already sells a 32 inch 4k OLED display, the 32EP950-B.

@Worldwideweb1994

2 жыл бұрын

@@randoir1863 Don't phones already have OLED screens at similar resolutions to 1080p and 1440p?

@SuperSuperka

2 жыл бұрын

_such great price to performance is awesome_ burn-in is also awasome. But not an issue if you don't work on PC.

@PabzRoz

Жыл бұрын

@@randoir1863 Well your comment aged like milk lmao

I've heard you call monitor crosshairs "cheat crosshairs" multiple times, but I can't really think of any games that it gives an advantage on, can anyone give some examples?

@arc11honist

2 жыл бұрын

uh escape from taekov maybe

@GodsGreatestDrunkDriver

2 жыл бұрын

games that dont have crosshairs probably, like csgo with the awp

@isakh8565

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure he's just meme-ing, he's smart enough to know it doesn't give an advantage and is more for personal preference.

@soggycatgirl

2 жыл бұрын

@@arc11honist Makes sense, I've never played EFT so I'll take your word on that. I assume the guns are at least semi-accurate when not scoped in, is that true?

@soggycatgirl

2 жыл бұрын

@@GodsGreatestDrunkDriver Fair enough,but I'm not so sure about that example -- isn't the awp quite inaccurate when noscoping?

I'm actually considering getting an OLED T.V for my set-up now.

Hi Tim, I asked on your last monitor review about whether you will at the end of the monitor reviews if you would maybe tell us the best settings, but you never replied so I’m asking again please?