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@lucazeroblueversion9346

10 ай бұрын

Idk why but i think they tried filling the gap of ghandi with columbus and altough he aint bad, its not as good as ghandi

@needabettername1559

10 ай бұрын

What songs are in this video

@yourin8er

10 ай бұрын

The new characters look off and don’t fit the style of the old characters.

Tbh i think the first episode would have worked much better if it had been gandhi that was "cancelled".

@zeepsterd

10 ай бұрын

They could have gone meta with that plot line due to him being the literal reason for the show being canceled.

@gandsproductions5105

10 ай бұрын

@@zeepsterd not to mention that he fits the "problematic" idea much better than Abe does.

@nopep5606

10 ай бұрын

😅

@pktpete

10 ай бұрын

​@@gandsproductions5105 right, while I honestly liked the storyline of episode one he definitely would've been a better pick for that plot

@jma0645

10 ай бұрын

​@@gandsproductions5105 immagine Gandhi getting cancelled and then but back in the freezer Until season 4 by the other clones

The fact that they had to add 4 new main characters to replace Gandhi just shows how substantial he is to the show

@Nando75549

10 ай бұрын

It's South Park season 6 all over again. And that was way back in 2002.

@melonking281

10 ай бұрын

@@Nando75549 what happened in season 6

@melonking281

10 ай бұрын

Topher was good

@kirarxse8893

10 ай бұрын

I don't think they were made with the intention of replacing ghandi, I think they were made with the idea of them being the new generation of the old cast (think Skins or Doctor Who) and we are just watching the previous generation interact with the new one.

@Nando75549

10 ай бұрын

@@melonking281 In Season 5's finale, they wanted to kill off Kenny permanently due to being tired of killing him all time. So in Season 6, they tried to replace him only that it didn't worked out and decided to bring him back right at the end of Season 6's finale.

I think a big problem with new characters is they designs clash with the old characters. They don’t look like they’re from the same show with how many bright colors they have making the characters look way too busy

@mint2574

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I get that it’s kind of the point to show they’re not from the same time but just being exaggerated gen z stereotypes was not the way to go about it.

@Cheeeiix_t

10 ай бұрын

@@mint2574 yeah, I don’t know anyone who would wear harriet tubmans outfit willingly

@ThunderBeam707

10 ай бұрын

Columbus is probably the only exception since his design is much more simpler like the original cast from the first season, compared to the designs of Confucius, Frida and Harriet. Not only does his simpler design and antics feel more believable but it actually feels like he belongs with the original cast and the entire show.

@mint2574

10 ай бұрын

@@ThunderBeam707 that is so true which is why he’s my favorite of the new group. Even then colors could have worked for the rest if they weren’t so violently bright. Like no one is wearing that. I’ve also noticed that Confucius, Frida, and Harriet basically all have the same colors too.

@pinkrunt

10 ай бұрын

i mean thats the whole point they are made to stand out they are from a completely different generation from the ogs and they’re trying to market this show to gen z(even if they’re not doing too good of a job)

I’m happy that Gandhi isn’t completely gone. He’s still there, he may not be a full character but he’s still there

@Bradorks

10 ай бұрын

He’s here in spirit 🥺

@nopep5606

10 ай бұрын

😭

Principal Scudworth the real main character of Clone High.

@HatshepsutVaro

10 ай бұрын

He's the one carrying the show, gosh he started high with that song

@nopep5606

10 ай бұрын

😅

I think a good idea for bringing Gandhi back would be to not just reveal he’s a different historical figure, but to reveal that he’s a historical figure who is generally disliked by the public. That way there’s no controversy over how they portray him. Just going by Indian historical figures, Aurengzeb (the sixth emperor of the Mughal Empire) is considered by many to be India’s most hated historical figure. Paintings of him even portray him as having a big nose and a black beard, so he’d be a perfect fit for Gandhi’s already existing design.

@randomrhino7500

10 ай бұрын

Him and cluba Will be friends each other there’s a common ground of being disliked by the public because of the clone dad

The only thing that really bothers me with the new clone high is how the new characters stick out like a sore thumb like they don’t blend in with the old characters at all with their bright and modern designs 🤦‍♀️

@drangc0bex119

10 ай бұрын

If they just gave Confucius a thin mustache and beard it would be a pretty good design for him

@almond3066

10 ай бұрын

​@@drangc0bex119 yeah Columbus works well in the original style I think and you could tweak confusious to make him fit in too, frida works a bit but kinda sticks out and Harriet straight up looks like a Total Drama character lol

@Imaslutforpuns

10 ай бұрын

@@almond3066 oh my god that’s the best description of Harriet I’ve heard yet 💀

@brainthebrian3690

10 ай бұрын

@@Imaslutforpuns Ha-Have you seriously not heard that before? That's how literally everyone describes her.

@Imaslutforpuns

10 ай бұрын

@@brainthebrian3690 idk what you want me to say to you dude I’ve heard people say no one would willingly wear her outfit before but not that I’m sorry???

Hopefully they bring him back after the show gets too big for failure and we can continue his romance storyline Though I love how they keep making sure the audience and those who cancelled the show before know that Gandi still exists though his many references

@technoir2045

10 ай бұрын

without him, I'm unsure if it can get to that point, plus even if it does reach a high point, it might me seen as a big risk to bring him back

@saelhernandez2389

10 ай бұрын

Well, Lord and Miller have stated that if Clone High gets renewed for a fourth season, they might bring him back

I have to repeat this constantly; Gandhi was not the reason the show was cancelled. The show was already not renewed for a season 2 way before the “outrage” about Gandhi sparked. I watched the show in real time, became obsessed and was a leader in the “don’t cancel clone high” internet movement. Back then adult swim/mtv/teletoon was notorious for having one season cult classic shows that due to the still infancy of the internet, went very under the radar. Shows like CH, Mission Hill, The Oblongs and Undergrands were all shown together and all famously never got second seasons because the viewership was never high enough to renew a show. There was a point that after so much energy of our group of Clone High fans emailing the clone high contact us email, teletoon, mtv etc they finally said they would love to do a second season, but their broadcaster wanted a partner broadcaster to ensure it was seen in both Countries. Teletoon (Canadian adult swim) was on board but they could never find another network to go in with them. Atleast that was the story we were always told by the corps when we’d harass them weekly. The outrage over Gandhi didn’t spark up until about a year after the show ended technically

Ya know, I feel like Clone High went from a comedic parody of a teen drama into a “comedic” teen drama

"(ELECTRICAL HUMMING)" gotta be my favorite Ghandi quote fr.

@zeepsterd

10 ай бұрын

Does hard tho fr

When the world needed him most, He disappeared

@KyloCline

10 ай бұрын

20 years has passed some people say he’s gone, but I believe he will save the world

@vicbaez

10 ай бұрын

Thats not how the quote goes

@KyloCline

10 ай бұрын

@@vicbaez I know, I just tried the best I could

@KyloCline

10 ай бұрын

@@vicbaez but for real bring, Gandhi back

@majorpeepo

10 ай бұрын

​@@KyloClinebut he's frozen

Fun Fact: In the script for the pilot of Clone High, Mr. Butlertron was named "Mr. Belvetron" and programmed to take on the characteristics of the sitcom character Mr. Belvedere (1985)

I hope Topher Bus and Gandhi canonically get in a fight, they’re basically polar opposites. 😅

This is a small issue, but the fluidity of the new season’s animation is smoother than the original and it kind of takes away from that nostalgic look. Like yeah we have the ability to make smoother animation now but the quick jagged (not sure if that’s the right word) style from season 1 gave it a lot of character and played well with the humor and setting that it was made in

I've heard that Lord and Miller said there's a chance Ghandi will come back if the show gets a season 4 (they've already got a 3rd season ordered apparently). So i think the chances of him coming back anytime soon are low, unfortunately.

Everyone complaining about how the new characters clash with the old ones, but I actually like that you can tell there are 2 generations of clones cohexisting. I know the "cancelled" pilot was kind of cringe, but I'de hope they explore a bit more the interactions between two groups who are the same age, but from diferent times. Outside of the lame gore joke, I wish they did more with Cleo feeling bad about not being the most popular girl on school anymore. I feel she got integrated into the group a bit too easily.

Gandhi was almost always the main focus of the B plot. He was nearly half the show.

In all honesty the last few episodes were improvements tbh. It kinda got a bit better

I think Christopher Columbus is carrying this season for me.

I really don’t understand the Gandhi argument for Season 2. I love him just as much as the next guy, but given how flanderized the OG Clones have become since Season 1 I don’t even wanna know what they would’ve done to him and his character

Abe has been so alone since Gandi has been gone, I hope they bring him back

@majorpeepo

10 ай бұрын

They said something about maybe brining him back in season 4

Look at what they needed to mimic a fraction of Ghandi’s power

Gandhi is the best clone high character

Clone High just isn't Clone High without Gandhi. He's my favorite character and is a part of what made season 1 as great and absolutely hilarious as hell as it is. And it clearly says something when they filled his spot in the show (for now) with FOUR new characters. That shows just how badly needed Gandhi is to be back in the cast and while the new clones aren't the worst, they obviously do clash with the originals, are not favorites of mine, or will never touch the surface of how great Gandhi is. His return to the show will be HUGE for the reboot and will help it significantly. Hell, if they have to bring back the idea of him being revealed as a clone of Gary Coleman the whole time for his return, that wouldn't be bad either. I just want his character back in the show and know everyone else agrees when I say his character IS needed again asap.

I've said this before, but the toughest part about bringing back Ghandi is who should be cast as the creators stated he would be recast if he returns. While I will miss his og voice, one candidate I would consider is Karan Soni, as he's the voice of Spider-Man India in ATSV, a Lord-Miller project.

@TheKingPrawn24

10 ай бұрын

Idk, Gandhi in Clone High doesn’t have an Indian accent like Karan Soni does. So unless he can do a good Gandhi impression idk if he’d really fit.

@thebrightdiamondtp7871

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think giving Gandhi a native-Indian accent would really fit him (wouldn’t really make sense because the clone of him wasn’t raised in india), maybe an Indian voice who tries replicating a standard American accent could be neat though and inclusive. On the other hand, I wonder how Pav would think of CH Gandhi, would he respect him tremendously based on his clone father or feel off about him, but still passive to him anyway?

I think it would be hilarious if India did another hunger strike to force them to add Gandhi back to Clone High.

i don't think i'd call it underwhelming, it's solid i suppose. the character designs are kinda weird but i mean, considering it's been 20 years, it could have been so, so, so much worse

@adolfocoy7516

10 ай бұрын

Dude the first 6 episodes were ass, 7 and 8 were good

@dybixs1400

10 ай бұрын

The only thing solid about this new Clone High is how consistent is to ruin character personalities

@baphomeat

10 ай бұрын

I'm on your side it's not an amazing show but it's good. Everyone who is so vitriolic about the show should probably watch the Rockos Modern Life reboot, paying specific attention to the kind of obnoxious cancer that Rocko was being about the Fatheads... they are being Rocko... and even Rocko realized he was in the wrong eventually.

The worst part about cases like this is when there is a show with a good POC character that actually has character that doesn't revolve around their race and people get offended and cancel it. Indians really threw a fit over nothing with this and I feel rather spiteful over it.

As an Indian I am so upset that Clone High got canceled because of Ghandi I love Gandhi he was my favourite character from season 1

There’s something poetic about ghandi going from the reason the show got ended and possibly how the show got saved

“i need a moment to think about this”

Good video from the man, the myth, the legend, Zeepsterd

@zeepsterd

10 ай бұрын

😎

Ghandi was what made the show popular and controversial

The latter episodes have really turned me around on the series So much so that I feel like the bad start was intentional to lower expectations that would result from a 20-year wait

Gandhi when he learns he was a clone of Garry Coleman "Man I need a moment to think about this."

How can a Gandhi meme out beat a literal show I haven’t seen no Clone High season 2 memes that’s saying something 💀

@OTaldoSan

10 ай бұрын

That lighthouse Abe meme is from season 2

@Kidnamejoseph

10 ай бұрын

@@OTaldoSan yea only that while there’s multiple Gandhi memes with different joke

@OTaldoSan

10 ай бұрын

@@Kidnamejoseph fr

First episode gives a bad impression, and Confucius ain’t bad of a character and I wouldn’t say Columbus is like a Ghandi, he’s definitely a weird kid but like the psycho kind instead of like Ghandi’s hyperactive and social type of weird but still charming you could see people hanging with him.

The latest episodes we’re actually pretty good. Or at least a lot better than the early s2 episodes

Clone high with no Ghandi is like ICarly with no Sam… or South Park with no Cartman

Watch episode 7 and 8. These are actually really good, and feel like an episode from season 1.

@HelheimMudkip

10 ай бұрын

They really did just sky rocket in quality for those two. Best part is Mr B saying "Wesley" again.

the last 2 episodes were pretty good, i hope it'll stay good.

Big ups for playing Abandoned Pools throughout

Nah, a new writers room would still struggle to clean up after season 2.

I do wanna preface that I do enjoy season 2 but I also think one of the biggest issues with the show besides gandhi is it exists as a continuation to Clone High but feels like a complete reboot. This is because all the character are written just a bit off which is expected given how much time has past but also straight up have completely changed dynamics, betraying some of their original characterisations, to the point it feels like they should've just committed into making this a reboot or just not making this a CLONE HIGH show. Even the protag is changed from Abe to Joan, which I don't think is a bad thing but again it's quite a stark difference from the original show, which is why it can kind of feel jarring? Some of the characters never even bring up previous events, there's been no acknoledgement of Abe and Cleo's relationship and generally the show doesn't exist as a parody of teen dramas anymore, it's just another adult show without the sharp jokes of the previous season. That being said I don't wanna just end this on a crappy note, I do think there's a lot of merit to the show despite me just talking about it's flaws! I really enjoy the new characters and how they interact with the other characters, and there are still relatively funny jokes, especially with Scudworth! Hell there's been ASPECTS of teen drama in recent episodes, but I really do hope things continue to improve. Especially now that production on season 3 has begun! If season 3 goes well I am excited to potentially see the funny man in season 4 again because I think he'll return a big chunk of the charm original Clone high had. TLDR; WAAAA it's not like original Clone High. But some of it is okay :).

i wish they showed the new characters in like their own episode to get to know them and to get used to them from that point on and not just shoving them in one episode

With ghandi I think he would make the show FEEL like clone high, but the writing in the new show just needs to be better With how abe is behaving on the new season I think ghandi can save abe in how abe is handling everything

3:00 you know everyone talks about this meme but , I remember the “say whatttttt” me all over the internet man

Possible way to save the show: Gandhi comes back, causes an accident that kills ALL of the new characters. After that, the formula from season 1 returns, and the fans are happy.

I saw the first episode of season 2 on KZread when it came out and some clips of other episodes online. I haven't watched the whole season so these are only my thoughts based on what I've been exposed to. I think what they've done is they've tried to take Gandhi's roles and spread them out across different characters. Confucius is now the more rambunctious friend who wants to be cool and who Abe sometimes consults with, Confucius and Gandhi are also both famous figures in history who dealt with wisdom and ethics. Abe is in a weird place because he returns for his own role but now he also takes up part of Gandhi's role being the one trying to fit in and getting lost. Had Gandhi returned I think it would have been more fitting for him to "get cancelled" and meet Columbus. With Gandhi missing it creates this sort of weirdness in the show that's been spread to other characters that doesn't really gel. It's an attempt to make up for his absence when he helped to tie everything together and he was a character that others could bounce off of. What makes season 2 hard to digest for me is how stark all of the new stuff is. Many of the new character designs I think are obnoxious and often they don't look like they're from the same show, plus there's also a huge push to make the new clones super gen-z. Everyone else looks like a normal person, then there are the new clones with zany neon colors and they're spouting off about TikTok or whatever. They feel less like Clone High characters and more like gen-z is their whole personality, it's very forced. I agree about Columbus though I think he fits in pretty well. Columbus has a more toned down color pallet and his form looks more like a Clone High character, he also has a personality based in something from a kid in high school.

I think my favorite part of the new show it that episode 2 or 3(I don’t remember which one) was just Creepshow for no reason. Like, just watch it and than watch an episode of Creepshow in shudder or the first movie. You can tell

I feel like the designers of the new characters dont really know how Gen Zers dress. It looks almost mote like 90’s stuff with all the clashing neon

Principal Scudworth CARRYING hard

Scudworth is still Hilarious to me

I do find the joke of him being frozen is kinda funny ngl

I feel like Gandi provided a balance to the show. Abe, Cleo, Joan and sometimes JFK did the serious plot things while Gandhi did the comedic things that made him likable. Now the show is kinda too wacky and out the ordinary because Gandhi isnt there balancing things. But hey, this is the same show with clones of famous dead people, so maybe out-the-ordinary things aren't too crazy. But just seeing a giant Cleopatra is odd.

Retconing the lore of Ghandi to make him a clone of a different person sounds good enough for me, as long as he keeps to be the original character type that he's supposed to be

Personally I think Gandhi returning would be really funny with the interactions he could have with Columbus. Both he and Columbus were made to be the buddy to Abe but are still different from each other which could lead to pretty funny antics between the two or even as a trio.

Gandhi is clone high. He needs to come back 💔

20 yrs later to a whole other level

I feel like the main saving grace for the new clone high is Scudworth's slapstick stlye of comedy still being very present. Columbus is the only new character think feels at least close to Ghandi.

"My terrible microphone aside" sounds exactly the same

I’ve quite enjoyed the new season of Clone High. And while I don’t particularly miss Gandhi too much (I don’t dislike him but he was the character I was least invested in) I do get why people miss him and hope he returns down the road.

It would be nice the only problem is that if he does come back. There's gonna be a big group of people screcognizing his character since hes supposed to be a clone of Gandhi Or worse they're gonna try to use the last season immense try to cancel series again.

Gandhi was so important to show, they should have brought him back . Let India be pissed off . Egypt wasn’t mad at Chloe, ( see had mad they are Netflix for the “documentary”)

The new episodes explore more about singular characters instead of them just being all in one just because Like (watch it and find out) But the writing has gotten better and its funnier Im excited to see what else they can whip up with the last 5 episodes Also ghandi will return in season 4 ...if there's a season 4

I legit thought topher was a season 1 character when I saw clips and stuff

Who is this Columbus character you keep talking about? I don't remember a new character with that name. On a similar note, I can't believe you haven't brought up Topher Bus

tbh, I feel that due to the societal lens of society changing clone high can't feel the same due to how writers see the world. Clone High came out during the 2000s when the culture was way different because of such things as technology not being as advanced as they are now. But we should also discuss the culture within the industry has changed a lot.

This is like Fairly Oddparents without Cosmo

Christopher Columbus WAS in season 1 as a side character. But he was still in it. That’s why he fits in the second season.

i hope the series addresses the fact there are two harriet tubmans.

@MiloMondo

10 ай бұрын

I doubt it: there was also another Frida in season 1, the writers are jsut ignoring that fact as they got totally rebooted. Not to mention she is quite unfunny, so I wouldn't count on her getting a running gag.

The cancel culture episode would’ve worked a ton better with Gandhi as the target of the episode along with changes to the story a little to match this. Its also innately ironic how the show was cancelled due to Gandhi, and the first episode of the new season started with cancel culture.

we want g-spot back

Yes.

If Ghandi does return, either they keep him as is but put a disclaimer pointing out he’s a clone or reveal he was a clone of someone else like Gary Coleman as was considered back during the original run. Also his return could totally work as a 2 parter. The first part focusing on finding him and the second part having him get up to speed with what’s happened. Also make Confucius, Abe, and Ghandi a trio after the latter’s return

I think a hood write around is to make him a mix of the rename and grandi so maybe since Ghandis body is ashes tge principle used other dna to finish it so its ghandi but also not him and I think its the best of both worlds

They actually I believe said that they would full return Gandhi in season 4

I would love Gandhi to come back but honestly I am scared for him to. Depending on how this series goes I really don’t see him coming back in a way that fans would be happy.

5:31 Ratitude would have been a better pick but go off

How did they for get to thaw out ghandi

I heard they'll bring him back for season 4 if that's the final season so they better keep their word

@MiloMondo

10 ай бұрын

No, I mean, they said season 4 because they got an arragment to make season 2 and 3, so if it does well enough, they said they could consider bringing him back if the show gets renewed.

In all honesty the only one of the new characters I really like so far is Frida. She has actual resemblance to her clone mother, and I think they did a good job of making her into the super chill art girl. Confucius is fine, just kinda a bland wannabe influencer, and topher can be funny at times. But I loathe harriet, she looks nothing like the person she's cloned from and is just really annoying, like what is with her obsession with being famous, isn't that supposed to be Confucius' thing? And I hate how many episode plots so far have focused a lot on her.

It could’ve been worse, but funny jokes are few and far between. Even without Gandhi, it’s lacking something that made season 1 special.

Honestly, I am preferring the new season of Clone High over the original. The first season was much less consistent in regards to tone, quality, and story structure. And, honestly, I like the new characters, the new dynamics for the original characters, and how meta the series has become. It shows growth on behalf of the show-runners: Chris Lord, Phil Miller, and Bill Lawrence. And you can definitely see some of the lessons Lord and Miller learned from making the Lego Movie and the Jump Street films in the fabric of the current season of Clone High. I may be in the minority here, but I definitely prefer the new season at this point.

@Cacasoap

10 ай бұрын

Never state your opinion again 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥

I really like the season 2 and i dont really care about ghandi specifically coming back or not

@MiloMondo

10 ай бұрын

And here Ithoguht I would never come across such unpopular opinion. :o

Gandhi becoming Gary Coleman never made much sense to me- Coleman died after the 80s and it would change his whole ethnicity. Maybe as a clone of another Indian historical figure or another historical figure named Gandhi, bc there r a few. Or maybe hes a regular teen that snuck into clone high and pretended to be a clone of Gandhi, who knows what they'll go with

Theyre gonna give him adaral and he's gonna zone out

Yes I’m order for season 4 to happen we gotta Fake it till we make it for 3 seasons straight

There are aspects of the show that I like and others that I don't like. I think the designs are okay and think that it takes away from other aspects since it's being parroted so much to the point of being a virtue signal. I think the show could improve from more focus on a handful of characters as opposed as trying to cram as many as they can. Also the writers need to be on the same page because there have been some great episodes and some very meh episodes. Episodes 2 and 5 do the best job imo at establishing the newer characters since it is focused. Episode 2 has a solid A&B plot that deals with a flame war and a backstory. Episode 5 deals with a conflict between Joan and Harriet in a nice musical episode (written by new writers). Episodes 3 is the worst so far in doing an anxiety plot that doesn't do all that much because it's bouncing around so much (new writer). The writers have decent ideas but they sometimes conflict when applying them which could be helped by more collaboration and better refinement of their ideas.

I feel like the best way I can explain clone high’s tone to me at least is that the episodes used to feel like watching rip offs of old dramatic shows or stuff youd see on like MTV, VH1. Kinda like if you asked what millennials grew up as drama TV and made a show centered around that concept as the joke. This new season feels more like its a rip off/parody of modern entertainment, especially tiktok. Like its more of a reflection of modern television and entertainment for teens /young adults. Which if thats what they’re going for can be interesting hopefully if the writing can find the right tone again.

5:30-6:30 skip if you want to avoid the sponsor ad

What happened to the original board of shadowy figures tho

The fact that I honestly thought the show could be good without Gandhi but nvm they need him cause idk what to say the show is terrible (It’s my opinion)

Honestly I think Topher is a pretty ok sidekick for Abe, but I feel like the fandom, myself included, see Topher as more of a person who is so attention starved that as soon as he gets attention from anyone, usually Abe, he takes it the wrong way, and thus leading to reasons why tophabe exists. For me, I feel like I’m not a fan of Topher being a sidekick of Abe’s. As much as i relate to him and love him with all my heart, he could never fill Gandhis shoes, and I can’t see him ever doing so. As frida mentioned, I see Topher more as a simp than a sidekick for Abe.

I gonna miss Gandhi in this clone high😪.

He has to

Ngl there was a frida in the og clone high

Judging a show based on the pilot does have a few exceptions. Oddly enough, lego ninjago is one of those. Season one is kind of the pilot while also being canon. Yet, the main ninjas get time to develop yet there are still mysteries that are set up. Like how zane doesn’t understand comedy, being the set up to a big discovery about him in season two.