Chowder: No, you're not in this episode. *Goku pops out of existence*

@TheProfessionalBro

6 ай бұрын

That's an inverse ability so it wouldn't work on Goku or any character outside of Chowder's universe, but even if it weren't an inverse ability and Chowder did try to use that power, Goku would speedblitz him before he even gets to say it/use it.

@lazybnz8667

6 ай бұрын

Yes but goku is also quite childish so most of your comments about goku being to fast only really applies whether or not goku is serious or sees the “opponent” as a threat

@Brabbs

6 ай бұрын

@@TheProfessionalBro Wouldn't this assume Goku realizes what Chowder is doing?

@Mr._funny2006

5 ай бұрын

Wouldn't the same argument for the I like trains kid applie to him

@lazybnz8667

5 ай бұрын

@@Mr._funny2006 Yes but goku can survive getting hit by a train if he can survive getting hit by a death beam

I think Popuko & Pipimi have enough toonforce to realistically pull some random bs to win against Goku Also the reason of why Wario is there is because is immortal because he refuses to die (Whatever that means) And Needle Kirby exist

@TheProfessionalBro

6 ай бұрын

1. Popuko & Pipimi have some toon force but it’s low level and the highest feat we’ve seen them use it with is star level 2. IDK where it was stated that Wario was immortal or that he refuses to die. 3. Goku being afraid of needles was filler so IDK if Needle Kirby will scare him.

@TanookyTeneka

6 ай бұрын

@@TheProfessionalBro Wario Land 2/3's (I don't remember which one) Manual

@TheProfessionalBro

6 ай бұрын

Ok, I just checked and Wario has type 3 immortality which is immortality via regeneration. However, hakai was able to kill Zamasu who had the same exact type of immortality and Goku has hakai so Wario still loses. Thanks for letting me know about his immortality though, I actually didn't know that before.

@Skellijira2

6 ай бұрын

​@@TheProfessionalBro Wario loses because he wants to. Wario can beat anyone, he just doesn't want to.

@komaristudios2863

6 ай бұрын

​@Skellijira2 dude stop being a fan boy that like saying he could beat actual God or if you want to his creator

The real question is can Goku beat Rock, Paper and Scissors from the hit game Rock, Paper, Scissors?

@GuyOfficiaI

5 ай бұрын

Nah

As a dragon ball fan I cannot confirm nor deny if he wins because I don’t even watch the show I’m a fan of 🔥 🗣️ 💯 🥶

@ElPeloXD

6 ай бұрын

"Dont mess with DB fans, we havent watched the show too."

@chargemankenia

5 ай бұрын

Based

@eraser1103wastaken

5 ай бұрын

There’s like 5 shows

@Jsslade

5 ай бұрын

literally me

@KingKraxy

4 күн бұрын

goku wins. its rule 34 of the universe. look it up. goku rule 34

For shedinja, just because goku can fly, doesn’t mean that he does flying type damage. Ki attacks are not analogous to pokemon moves. Yes they are similar, but do not have types like pokemon attacks. If anything, even if they were, ki attacks would probably be more alongside psychic type, as it is spiritual energy.

@bogboyburger2592

6 ай бұрын

What's stopping goku from using strategy?like using the environment

@Vansh-di9xl

6 ай бұрын

​@@bogboyburger2592 because he is goku and does dum things, he also isn't strategic.

@Notadisguisedcrab

6 ай бұрын

@@Vansh-di9xlgoku is strategic in battle

@Notadisguisedcrab

6 ай бұрын

If ki moves weren’t the same as Pokémon moves then they won’t damage goku

@TanookyTeneka

6 ай бұрын

I say that unless Goku pulls up in the next Pokiman game it's up to interpretation

Actually i dont even think we know how fast saiki k is because we never really see him at full power long enough

@Big_Steg

5 ай бұрын

doesn't goku give everyone prep time? isnt that his whole thing? i think that Saiki could, in said prep time, either kill baby goku, terminator style or turn him to stone, but idk.

@corndogman4692

5 ай бұрын

@@Big_Steg that's true, saiki could do that given the time he would have

@crunbounded4142

5 ай бұрын

@@Big_Steg killing baby goku would probably just end up as an alternate universe. and if your power level is high enough you can outhax special abilities, like how vegito who was able to move as a candy created by majin buu, thus beating becoming a rock. (ssj vegito comparable to ssg goku) and goku who moved in time during his fight against hit simply because he was stronger. if we're going by feats, saiki is probably planetary, goku is easily solar system + because he defeated cell who was stated to be able to be a solar system buster, that was when he was ssj3, he now has UI.

@2magnet

5 ай бұрын

I watched a video it's Goku vs saiki K and I believe saiki would best Goku based on that video

Idk- Saiki has some pretty top tier reality warping. The fact he changed everyone’s genetics in the universe to have colored hair to make himself less suspicious. That’s some top tier shiz that I don’t think Goku could fight against. Also a lot of the list is assuming Goku is goin for the kill instantly, when he most likely would let a few attacks and techniques go through since that’s kinda who he is 😂

@AnthonyRomero-dx8de

6 ай бұрын

I remember where he went back in time

@Mrangrybird-vg1iy

6 ай бұрын

@@AnthonyRomero-dx8de and can do anything via fan suggestion, so all the fans are going to say he can go ultra instinct

@Totallyoffical-lego_broly

6 ай бұрын

@@Mrangrybird-vg1iyjust go into time and stop goku from being born

@thecraggle7277

6 ай бұрын

​@@Totallyoffical-lego_brolyBardock or gokus mom would kill him lol

@jarielwilliams9856

5 ай бұрын

​@@thecraggle7277He'd probably turn them inside out since well..he can manipulate reality.

People that say Saitama wins because he's One Punch Man are the type to argue that Frankenstein's Monster, Dracula, Wolfman, and the Invisible Man are universal because they're called the Universal Studios Monsters.

you should make a community post where you ask people for who they think could beat goku and why, then do a video supporting / debunking these

also DUDE CHOWDER LITERALLY HAS THE ABILITY OF "You're not in this episode!" WHICH LITERALLY DELETES PEOPLE FROM THE PLOT AND EXISTENCE

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Plus homie does something Goku can never get past in terms of hunger: Eating episodes like an eldritch horror... To put into perspective: That's like also ceasing your time/plot progression, yet act fine XD.

@Jsslade

5 ай бұрын

iirc that only works on people from the Chowder universe

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

@@Jsslade Nah cease this bad faith gas lighting, it works in general. Otherwise the same applies to DBZ logic only working in their universe, and will get back shots in the showers by DC because simply they are no longer anchored to their own universe. Homie would have gotten most of this right if he were to look at it from a deeper angle, surely these are but mere jests.

@Groofball2

5 ай бұрын

In-verse feat + Goku can one-shot him before he says that

@willwh9228

5 ай бұрын

I mean to be fair it didn't delete the dude from existence, they were back next ep. So it more of a battle field removal than actual killing goku.

I am of the opinion that Goku could beat characters with toonforce so long as he makes it where him winning is funnier. He's a fighting genius who was the first person to make King Kai laugh and has experience with gag characters. The fact he didn't recruit Arale for a serious arc probably means he's aware of toonforce's limitations

@thespagetguy

5 ай бұрын

Yeah but don't you remember when Bugs fought hitler and won? That was pretty funny. Top that Goku!

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

@@thespagetguy I mean to be fair, they had Hitler... In one of the specials.

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Being labelled as a mere gag character let alone make it funny ain't enough. There are others of higher broken caliber like Mr. MXZYPTLK will just throw Goku away like wet trash and will have some snarky remark of how Goku is a powerful Alien just not a SUPER one. *Bare in mind:* The same Imp is built different enough to *already one shot gag characters... Casually (bro didn't even "make it funny" he just did it on a whim)...* The same Imp struggled MASSIVELY with the Looney Tunes, even being driven insane and had to leave, something the Animaniacs scale to, given they are *bluntly evidenced* to live in the exact same high-ranking Toon Physiological nature in the Warner Bros Lore. Popeye obliterated the as cartoonishly warped Ogbert, a literal 7th Dimensional Being... Without Spinach... Then bested the in-verse God who is above the spatial plane prior... Without Spinach... Just to assert more dominance, Pops bested God AGAIN this time outside his verse (the same who plots his every action... *Casually*)... Do I even need to say if he had any enhancements?... The besting the authors bit was since Pops Golden Age btw, who knows what else he has since those decades... I haven't even gotten to the massive wall of hax Popeye has innately, let alone with Spinach, even besting those already amped BY SPINACH (of which pulls a flash by traveling through time, and brain grubs them to solve the complex machinations of the verse as it is). It sounds like you're basically using the same logic as _"Saitama is literally the One Punch Man, his gag is to forever be built different and never ever loose to anyone"_ line of thinking, because Goku was once a gag character or the purple kangaroo says he's immune amongst the above... Even though they'll still get cosmically stinkered by a Wabbit, driven insane by eldritch cartoony blots, or an unknowably deceiving yellow spongey thing that scares me, etc. You all are coping so hard and this man hasn't seen the unseeming yet bigger picture of the matter, just as Mr. Mxzyptlk said.

@redjirachi1

5 ай бұрын

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 In fairness I wasn't aware of stuff like Mxy actually having trouble with the Looney Tunes

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

@@redjirachi1 Then it would also seem you don't know M has bypassed gag character narratives as is... Yet it wasn't enough to take out the Looney Tunes XD. Any who, saying Goku can best top Toons is a mere fools bet (he can beat lower rankings sure, but even some have the most unorthodox workings that wouldn't work out for him at all). Most of the Toons mentioned for however unseeming, will have Goku under the futility of fighting Superman once more, but now with the power of nonsense as it is.

underrated af dude, love the video

@TheProfessionalBro

6 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

Let's not forget that Goku is also known to bite people during a fight, and Bite is a dark type move in Pokemon, so that's two moves that can take out Shedinja.

@genxvictor1805

23 күн бұрын

Dark goku

Sorry but Chowder beats Goku. He has that wack 4th wall ability to retcon a character from the script

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Well yes... Now while Goku has no chance, but with Arale, no matter how much determination output Chowder commands for her removal: She'll just ignore it and eventually integrate Chowder against his will into her show XD.

They all win because Goku never fights to kill, but to have fun and get stronger

@ulc_UV_Swap_sans

6 ай бұрын

W ngl

@TheProfessionalBro

6 ай бұрын

In a versus battle all moral restraints or moral codes that characters have are removed. But even if Goku did keep his moral code, he would just beat them by either knocking them out or beating them half to death. Also Goku has killed people before like Buu and Frieza. In the manga he also tried to kill Zamasu with Hakai and killed Moro.

@deergirl452

6 ай бұрын

​@@TheProfessionalBro With frieza he had no other choice Kid Buu, Zamazu and Moro were threats to the universe, so he didn't planned to spare them I mean I don't think he would beat up a defenseless kid

@Mrangrybird-vg1iy

6 ай бұрын

@@TheProfessionalBro but goku would still have to charge up to his more powerful forms leaving time for counter attacks or plans, and his ki attacks at minimum need at least a few seconds to charge up

Cool video! I don’t agree with Kirby not winning because of the “infinite power” in planet robo bot thing and a few other feats, but ultimately this is just for fun and your inclined to your own opinion. Keep up the good content chum!

Wouldn't Wario simply win via not feeling like dying long enough? He canonically just doesn't die unless he explicitly feels like it, so I don't think Goku could actually put him down

@sup3rlu1gi

2 ай бұрын

wario also survived mario( in Super mario land 2) who is hyperversal if we use the scaling from dreamy bowser. this gives credit to this

depends on what version of miku you use miku from battle cats is high multiversal+ with cat treasures and has concept manipulation via cat treasures

@randomyoutuber2633

5 ай бұрын

What?

@gadlygamer

5 ай бұрын

@@randomyoutuber2633 hatsune miku was in a collaboration event for the mobile game battle cats

@randomyoutuber2633

5 ай бұрын

@@gadlygamer I know that, but since when did Battle Cats units get this strong?

You forgot train kid is basically immortal

@just_an_internet_explorer8038

6 ай бұрын

How? >_>

@emorybest1003

6 ай бұрын

@@just_an_internet_explorer8038 constantly gets run over by trains but always comes back

@just_an_internet_explorer8038

6 ай бұрын

@@emorybest1003 isn’t he never actually in the way of the train?

@TheProfessionalBro

6 ай бұрын

@@emorybest1003He could either be immortal or just have very good durability.

@corndogman4692

6 ай бұрын

I like to thinks he is immortal, but only to his own train

I think that Kirby with the warp star can move as fast if not faster than Goku because it’s been confirmed that it can move faster than light. Also love the content, keep it up

@FreshWaffles3

6 ай бұрын

fr, although I also disagree with 2 other matchups, otherwise gotta say, it was a pretty good video

@TheProfessionalBro

6 ай бұрын

You're actually right, Goku's fastest-moving speed and Kirby's fastest-moving speed via the Warp Star are both massively faster than light. However, Goku in my opinion only outmatches Kirby due to his better strength and durability. Thanks for the comment by the way.

@Mrangrybird-vg1iy

6 ай бұрын

@@TheProfessionalBro you forgot about Formula Star from air ride

@segasonic_chilidog3726

6 ай бұрын

@@TheProfessionalBroI can agree with in strength, but I think Kirby definitely takes durability. He literally has no bones, can eat things that multiple times his size, and stretch his body in very inhuman ways (like mouthful mode from forgotten land)

@newpacattack12

6 ай бұрын

@@TheProfessionalBro bro forgot kirby can absorb goku and gain his power or get another one that equals or surpasses his base stats

I know 3 characters that you are wrong about: sans, Saiki, and Kirby Now hear me out ok It’s not that they beat Goku They WOULDN’T fight him sans is too lazy to pick a fight with anyone Saiki just wants to be left alone And I feel like Kirby and Goku would just eat food together instead of fighting (the only real competition they’d have is who could eat more food [Spoiler: it’s Kirby])

@kanra_n3514

5 ай бұрын

realistically goku wouldn t fight any of these mfs

@sawekpiniuzk2007

5 ай бұрын

Wario is also wrong, he's canonically immortal

@khaliyahjefferson832

5 ай бұрын

what about spongebob

The Goku fans that i love and respect : the ones who doesn't care about who wins and who lost and just enjoys the anime. The Goku "fans" that i don't respect and can't deal with : "GoKu Is ThE sTrOnGeSt ChArAcTeR! nO oNe CaN bEaT hIm!" And insults anyone who have a different opinion.

@genxvictor1805

23 күн бұрын

But can they beat goku's meat

@autisticwoman665

23 күн бұрын

@@genxvictor1805 que?💀📸

@genxvictor1805

23 күн бұрын

@@autisticwoman665 perdon, CAn tHEy bEat goku aND tHEmsElves

you have great animation skills ngl

The fact that Sans is fast enough to keep up with goku shows how op he is

@genxvictor1805

23 күн бұрын

Fr, always knew he had it in him, that lazybone

@goofyahgojiller

11 күн бұрын

its funny to think about but he isn't, Undertale isn't even hypersonic, dragon ball, even in the saiyan saga was millions, arguably billions to trillions of times faster than light, and currently Goku has arguably infinite speed, Goku is so much faster to the point Goku would perceive sans attacks as taking hundreds of millions of years to reach him.

@checker_board1991

10 күн бұрын

@@goofyahgojiller ok bro what the fuck is up with anime power scaling

@goofyahgojiller

10 күн бұрын

@@checker_board1991 I was sort of exaggerating about the millions to billions to trillions of times FTL part, but saiyan saga characters were still way above lightspeed, most likely thousands of times faster than light, and the namek saga heavily upscales the speed scaling for dragon ball.

@checker_board1991

10 күн бұрын

@@goofyahgojiller but to be honest, the only reason the player WAS able to defeat sans was because they got multiple tries after dying (infinite tries even)

The other thing that goku can't beat is Sonic the Hedgehog, and Maxwell from Scribblenauts.

Chowder : *eats a hot pepper and Burns Reality with his breath* (And yes,I know you can say that Goku speedblitzes him,but Choder is immortal.If I remember correctly - he has rubber-like properties,doesn't requri any organs to survive,as his stomach was eating himself he just felt hunger,and also ate himself in one of the episodes if I remember correctly,and then just popped back in.Plus - don't forget about Goku Things.If we are talking Super Goku - he loses to EVERYONE on this list - because he does Goku Things from Super and allows EVERYONE to use EVERYTHING they have to have a "good fight".If we are talking GT Goku - it's a different story,but he is weaker.And if we are talking the most inteligent Goku - The Z Goku - then I see your argument...but he won't be able to damage the likes of Chowder,because the Flames that Burn Reality - were only able to make his hat a little fried and he himself was perfectly fine,which is high-paying Universal scale of Buu Saga of Z)

If Archie sonic was in there Goku ain’t surviving to the speedy boi

@PhantomChaos76

6 ай бұрын

Bro even Frontiers Sonic

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

When a blue rodent with a cyclops eye is besting, you know Toriyama needed to up the man's stats more with what he had, rather then nerf his integrity back xD.

@opalander

2 ай бұрын

God Fused Goku negative difs. Do you see Sonic as fiction? Well so does GFGoku

@JaysDays-jn8tv

Ай бұрын

@@opalander now two words aka hyper sonic,ultra sonic is made up of 1 super emerald however can recreate the universe to where some things never happened or existed, and also the one time ran so fast he changed his physical appearance,aka like alien X,so imagine ultra sonic being made with 1 super emerald but use 7 and hyper is made.Hyper (seen in Sonic 3) jumps twice and a flash happens and every enemy is destroyed.he moves faster then sponge bob standing still like bruh sonic wins

@genxvictor1805

23 күн бұрын

​@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398☠️☠️☠️

Love the vid

Damn this video was fun and I agree with u

Wario scales to mario and is outright stringer than him too 😂 In the warioware games he even has slight toon force, he's immortal as stated in the wario land instruction manual, he hits hard enough to hit 5th dimensional beings and is able to use powerups, he's able to shapeshift to his advantage, and wario can also tank a black hole (I forgot the mario party game where he can)

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Oh shit where's the 5th Dimensional being part? Mario still keeps up with those way stronger too btw, and I don't just mean in wits.

@antoniacorrales9148

5 ай бұрын

Wario land 1 and 3 (the genie from 1 is a reality warper, and the clown boss forgot his name is a reality warper too)

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

@@antoniacorrales9148 But does it explicitly state that the Genie is a 5th Dimensional being? For example, in Popeyes Lore: Pops outfought Ogbert, who is explicitly labelled as a 7th Dimensional *BEING...* Meaning *their very properties,* not the "universe" where most always assume. Aside the Mario Bros, it still pertains to besting higher Dimensional beings, but you want to know something even more schadenfreude regarding this video that nearly the MAJORITY is agreeing blindly to?... Homie says he's played Crash Bandicoot and says he'll get bodied... Even though for however Goofy ahh Crash is... *Goku is the one in getting the pelvic thrusting hog riding treatment.* Considering much like the Mario Verse, Crash has outfought N. Trance whom in the manual (which this user ignored too) is ALSO a 5th Dimensional *BEING* who can travel to different points in time by casually moving, *EVERYONE CAN HURT/KEEP UP WITH IN KART RACES,* and we haven't even gotten to the Evil Twins whom explicitly have power over Infinite Dimensions/Reality itself yet Crash negated it (much like what he did by negating the Totem God that was imbued by the Twins power... Just by using Cortex as a choking hazard), nevermind the fact the villains like Uka Uka or a twinkie like Cortex have evolved into still being powerful threats since Titans + M.O.M. (despite being overwhelmed before by said Twins. Mf even Uka got MILKED from his power source in M.O.M. To evidence such).

Thanks for stickin up for me!

Wario and Kirby demolish Goku tho

@IForgellt

6 ай бұрын

Kirby is only multi due to statements. Due to void termina he’s just universal using feats, which is below Goku.

@Um_Carinhalol

6 ай бұрын

@@IForgellt Nah, he can get higher Also, tier doesn't determine the winner

@DDDTJ

6 ай бұрын

@@Um_Carinhalolfr

@Goku_ultra_dripstinct

6 ай бұрын

Stop meat riding

@Picccles_hates-dbl

6 ай бұрын

Cap

5:18 The thing is, his nickname is One Punch Man because at the end of the series, Saitama 's going to be so weak that he'll defeated in just 1 punch by anyone he fights. Right now, his nickname is Caped Baldy. 💀

Kingdom Hearts characters are Low 1-C and Dragon Ball GT AND SUPER are 2-C which is way lower than Kh

@PikachuGamerSMT

5 ай бұрын

Just in case anyone says Goku beats any KH character

Your forgot saki has every fast speed and can teleport he also can take of the things on his head I forgot what it was but he can and it will make him more powerful he also can’t control it so a slight movement could destroy the world I think he did before and he can go back into time etc.

Uncle grandpa solos all of them including goku

Great video. 👍 I'll write below my observations that differ from your analysis. Toon force is the power to defy consistency and science for comedic effect, but contrary to what many people describe it as, it doesn't only go in one upward direction. It's kind of a double edged sword, because if it's funny for the toon force user to lose, then they might do so. The idea of "Goku solos" is funny as shown at 10:50, so the first characters that you labeled as being able to defeat Goku could be at risk. However, all six of them have demonstrated that they are usually the ones in control and a different character is usually the punchline, so they're still more likely to win. Popuko and Pipimi can blow up the Earth in their flying saucer forms in the anime intro of “Pop Team Epic”, but this wouldn't let them win against Goku. However, since Popuko and Pipimi don't really have continuity in their stories and they have died before, perhaps they can stalemate Goku by coming back to life after Goku kills them. I would label Saitama with a question mark instead of a failure. Saitama demonstrated mysterious 4D capabilities, being able to accidentally break into a pocket dimension, grab wormholes, and immediately master time travel upon being taught it. How Saitama at full power would compare to Goku is a mystery, so I would prefer to not put a definite label in a comparison between the two. Contrary to popular belief, Sans' dodging isn't because he's super fast. Undyne is faster than Frisk, but even Undyne's Undying form isn't enough to avoid Frisk's attacks. Sans dodges because he disobeys the battle system that most other characters are forced to follow. It's Sans' whole schtick to use underhanded methods to make things easier for himself. He's secretly a scientist, so it's implied that he figured out how to defy rules that govern reality, such as the battle system in “Undertale”. Sans still doesn't have the strength to take Goku down, but I could realistically imagine a potential stalemate between the two. Wario is portrayed as having greater super strength than Mario and Luigi. However, characters in the “Super Mario” series are stated to be actors who can fit any role, with an emphasis on them varying depending on the story they are in. Given that the scaling in “Mario & Luigi: Dream Team” has contradictions in itself, I don't think any of the three are usually as strong as Dreamy Bowser. Otherwise, they would one-shot base Bowser. Bowser saw the Dream Stone as a source of ultimate power, so it doesn't make sense for his base form to be comparable. I think that Kirby VS Goku would be roughly a 50/50 match-up. Kirby can make allies from his Copy Abilities as well as by throwing a Friend Heart at enemies. Without outside help nor preparation, Kirby can have three Knuckle Joes at a time alongside him in this battle after absorbing Goku's ki. Kirby may be naive outside of combat, but in combat, he is very skilled at dodging enemy attacks and reflecting their attacks back at them. Additionally, Kirby has demonstrated immense combat super speed, even without a Warp Star. Kirby can react to and overcome Meta Knight doing an attack at super speed during “Kirby and the Forgotten Land”, and Meta Knight could easily fly cross interstellar distances in mere moments as shown during the final few cutscenes of “Meta Knightmare Ultra”. Additionally, Kirby was capable of playing interstellar baseball using meteors as balls during the “Star Slam Heroes” minigame of “Kirby Star Allies”… There is too much to tell about Kirby to fit into just one paragraph.

@absolutleynotanalien8096

5 ай бұрын

Goku is potentially 4d as well if not more likely so than Saitama. Buu broke out of the dimension of spirit and time wich is separate from the universe by screaming. Goku and Berrus threatened to destroy the macrocosm which contains heaven which depending on what dimensionaly trancendant meant may be above 3d, the same applies to hell. Goku shook the timeless world of void by powering upp. Gogeta and Brolly lithearly broke spacetime as their clash was to mouch for it to handle, how mouch it took to accomplish and how far goku has gotten since i don't know. If im not mistaken the timetravel move was technique copying wich Goku also has.

@absolutleynotanalien8096

5 ай бұрын

Or the world of void was described as beyond spacetime but as a functional timer could be made some form of time did exist there but not standard time apparently.

@justjames4

5 ай бұрын

@@absolutleynotanalien8096 I already know that Goku has 4D capabilities.

@absolutleynotanalien8096

5 ай бұрын

@@justjames4 Or of course quite possibly neither has it. The other dimension has nothing to suggest it's higher dimensional and some people think it's a simulation(if I understood what feat you referred to) the hyperspace portals or wormholes are 3dimensional portals through the fourth dimension, that's what a wormhole is and hyperspace could also has several definitions. Mastering time also don't give you 4spacial dimensional power in any way. Listing why Gokus feats aren't valid would leave me here a full day and you wouldn't read it, you could probably find sources on that if you try but they are about as valid. But if you would consider them valid then due to Gokus massive progression since the 2 earlier feats(and the second one being far more potent than Saitama's as it would be a 4d universe vs minor interaction with 4d) he would most likely be far stronger.

@justjames4

5 ай бұрын

@@absolutleynotanalien8096 It should be clear that neither of the characters lack the ability to interact with time to a small extent at the very least. Faster than light movement already defies the science behind space-time, and both of the combatants have demonstrated this kind of speed one way or another. I already know that Saitama's current demonstrations don't reach those of Goku's best. I wrote that I would label Saitama with a question mark because the full extent of his capabilities are mysterious. There are more ways to judge a character's capabilities than purely looking at feats. Analyzing context, implications and reasonable possibilities are equally as important as analyzing feats.

Bro Wario would simply just use his "Juicy Wario Brap Attack" to instantly end Goku as if he was just a Goomba

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Here's something for ya: Mario and Luigi at their strongest have destroyed souls in the RPG's, even if they resist attacks, bros bypass that resistance too (not only that, one can dawn certain Invulnerabilities like the mega mushroom, yet with nothing but a tennis racket they can remove that too! XD)... *Those were unassuming common enemies btw, we also have M&L physically destroying a being that is the conceptual embodiment of nightmares...* Wario shouldn't be too far off the ballpark here given they have faced each other in later activities. Either Wario or the other Bros can just pull a Goofy one shoting Sephiroth on canon Goku's defenses, given he lacks that hax of which the other can do physically XD.

@justjames4

5 ай бұрын

@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 Antasma wasn't the conceptual embodiment of nightmares. Antasma was a ghostly bat. The Dark Stone was an artifact that had a strong connection to the nightmares of the citizens of Pi'illo Island, but not the entire concept of nightmares.

Bro doesn't know about the Omniversal Chowder scaling... or Wario's Black Jewel feat

fun fact: the I like trains kid is literally Edd from Eddsworld. ( or he at least is the va for the I like trains kid)

WE GET IT U LIKE GOKU

Wario is one of the seven star children which are being stated to have the power to destroy a universe (this is from yoshi's new island on the 3DS) not saying he would win but just that he is at least universe level

@justjames4

6 ай бұрын

The game is “Yoshi's Island DS”. The star children were stated to have "an extraordinary amount of power" and Bowser planned to use them to take over the universe. There are also more ways in fiction to take over the universe than to simply have the power to destroy one.

@uslessyoutuber3092

5 ай бұрын

@@justjames4 yes there are more than one way to destroy a universe i am just stating what i remember kamek said as i haven'y played the game since it originally released

@justjames4

5 ай бұрын

@@uslessyoutuber3092 That's fine. 👍

@uslessyoutuber3092

5 ай бұрын

@@justjames4 👍

5:39 fun fact saitama took well over 7-9 hits to beat orochi the monster king. So the him always one shotting opponents rule was disproved yesrs ago back on season one. And he has yet to actually defeat.major antagonist in one hit. And I mean one single hit. Because people will take saitama punching a dude who is bleeding out half dead once as a one shot win and just ignore the fact the dude tanked like 12 hits earlier throughout the fight

Imagine if someone put sonic on this list (the match up would be fun to watch)

@Mrangrybird-vg1iy

6 ай бұрын

which one? regular or archie?

@xenonabaki8011

6 ай бұрын

@@Mrangrybird-vg1iy regular since there's so many skills and feats he could compare to goku rather then archie sonic saying "I win because I say so"

@Mrangrybird-vg1iy

6 ай бұрын

@@xenonabaki8011 ok

@thecraggle7277

6 ай бұрын

Just about any sonic slams

@Diogo85

6 ай бұрын

​@@thecraggle7277Any Sonic? Nah.

I had an argument someone once and they said cuz one punch man is his name he can defeat Goku and even true ultra instinct kids man

8:59 Goku also has infinite travel speed. And even if King Mickey was faster, Goku could blow up everything around him while teleporting to King Mickey. King Mickey still has to react, and I think Goku can react faster.

Hatsune miku goes popipopipoppopipo and goku explodes

I don’t really watch cartoons like that but the thing is about toon force is we don’t really know how it works. What I mean is we don’t know if the toon force is for the character pacifically or the world they are in. Because everyone in the cartoons have toon force. Now I think some characters can travel to different universes but the universes still can be a toon force universe or all the cartoons are in one big multiverse where toon force only exists. The only time when we know where a character can go through universes is when a collab episode happenes like when jimmy neutron had a collab with The fairy odd parents. But you can correct me with all you want because I barely know anything about toon force.

@justjames4

6 ай бұрын

Toon force is a fictional force powered by comedy that asserts itself over science and consistency when the time is right. Sometimes the environment changes by itself, but oftentimes a character is shown to be the one causing the change.

also cap for saiki saiki literally has reality warping through his psychic energy also his psychic energy comes from a higher dimensions. this makes saiki high multiversal+

@XDDocXD

5 ай бұрын

As a huge saiki k fan imma have to disagree. Saiki k has not shown any speed feats even close to goku so the mans right. Like saiki k might not even beat saitama

@JulianHill-xd4bt

Ай бұрын

This is like saying that a disabled person is created by god, so they have to have the strength of god as well.

Shedinja is in certain conditions invincible: .He needs the help of a Cyclizar with shed tail so he can make a clone and switch .He needs to hold a balloon .He needs electric terastal With these conditions completed, Shedinja is untouchable, even haxx can't touch him(because of his clone). The only way to beat him is to have mold breaker as an ability, but Goku doesn't

@Pixel_PedroYT

5 ай бұрын

what if goku uses his ki to levitate some rocks, then screams really loudly, like a roar, and kills the cyclizar?

I think Kirby could beat Goku if he manages to copy his abilities. Goku knows martial arts though so the fight would be extremely close for either side

@JulianHill-xd4bt

Ай бұрын

Kirby’s suck doesn’t kill you, but traps you into a infinite pocket dimension, however gokus instant transmission could just tp him out of the situation (if Kirby can even suck him up in the first place, since he has trouble sucking up higher tier characters in his own verse)

AND WARIO DUDE. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY NOT GOING TO INCLUDE HIS MARIO PARTY FEATS like the dream depot bro you are biased

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Most of these who don't bother looking at such more deeply are, and one day it will backfire HARD. As for the Mario Party/RPG's even, much like any other radicalized Sonic Fan in the Vs Battles Forum will subtlety downplay it or say it's not canon XD.

@gadlygamer

5 ай бұрын

@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 mario party is actually canon to the games as its an in-verse thing that they attend

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

@@gadlygamer Well heads up, the following is long, but it pertains to our situation with these people, and I sure as hell am NOT the only one: regarding the infamous forum that I mentioned, the admin/mods once said this with vigor, despite how wrong it factually is... Even when THAT doesn't go into their favors, they will deny anything higher... Because it got *so worse* lately... Like *the most absurdly biased that ever biased WORST.* *WE KNOW* Mario can already survive cosmic destruction in base (Mario already bested Culex who legit has power over space & time as a mere example) but homie doesn't even need to be Low-Multiverse level (in terms of such rating: Mario has defeated power star amped beings without any amp that have created countless universes before, in 64 he's bested Bowser who creates those paintings which were labelled as universes in sources. Amongst other examples too long to name here... Even then there are huger feats as it is, I mean allegedly: *One already said that Wario alone, bested 5th Dimensional beings normally* like that's awesome, but I feel like it's too good to be true) and as you said in those Mario Party Games: Mario and Luigi survived black holes that already warped two galaxies as it is, one can either swim out of it... Even survive it anyways... Yet according to the Vs Battles Wiki as of this date... Let's see if you can find how wrong this was justified: Mario is merely Island level innately, Large Star in the guise of only being achievable as amps (even though this is bluntly wrong, not just what I mentioned before, but they are *literally born as Star Children* XD) and the dream depot only merely getting Multiversal Level (despite there indeed being more to the Mario Cosmology then such shallow verdict, SO MUCH MORE if Wario has bested 5th Dimensional beings *NORMALLY* XD). Most who would visit that forum, the naive, will get gaslit into thinking that's all the characters can do or will get one shot by these weebs... When in reality, there is much more to said unassuming characters. So as long as evidence is very clearly shown, it shouldn't be ignored in ironically immature bad faith... As some people I used to stay in contact were treated *TERRIBLY* by Admins/Mods that one would intially trust, eventually one cannot help but loose their cool and the mods are bold to judge such backlash as a bad act or "act angry for a fictional character"... Despite how cowardly they are to accept that there will be higher rated characters from their own favors, hell there will be characters that I am not fond of, yet wouldn't gaslight a "debunking" of the Cosmology. So as long as it's all clear cut evidence, then obviously there won't be an interference. I'm not a huge fan of God of War per say, but one of the most PERFECT COMPARISONS I can give to these Admins/Mods is that they are LITERALLY GOW Odin, manipulative bunch underneath... But much like Odins: Eventually for however unseeming the probability, they will loose control should they tick off *the wrong person* someday.

also popuko and pipimi have plot hax they solo via hax

I'm not even gonna try anymore

8:13 and basically sans is aware and can use the game mechanics like reseting and the battle grid and the black screen shananigans are just sans reseting so if he wanted to he could teleport goku to another savefile and delete it and dont even get me started on the au's like last breath who cones back to life every time hes dealed a fatal blow, error sans who is a computer virus and could destroy the players pc if he wanted to, green sans who is a joke character just like arale, green sans jr who is even more of a joke character, dust sans who wiped out the entire underground just to gain enough xp to defeat a single human, dust dust who is a copycat of sans who also wiped out the entire underground and is a bit stronger than dust due to starting out with the nesscesary levels to beat normal sans and ink sans who can conjure up all of the sans's i mentioned with his paintbrush and more and he even has a final form whp is even strongger that being Shanghaivania sans and if he wanted to he could an infinite amount of sans au's to outnumber defeat goku but in his bossfight can't abuse the game mechanics so he can only conjure one at a time but outside of undertale he could summon the sans army

Toon force isn't fair because, as we see with Goku vs Arale, when Goku faces a gag character, he reverts to his own gag character roots from classic dragon ball.

Isn't Gokus speed immesureable or irrelevant cuz of breaking through Hit's timeskip or is it just that he negated his hax cuz he was stronger? 9:34

Even if the train hits him goku would feel the pain of the train

‏‪6:59‬‏ No one will survive that without a cure

Bro Kirby fights god daily and Kirby has the S U C K and can revive AND BRO ESCAPED GALEEM yea I know it was a star but he can summon it was fast enough to escape galeem the guy that CAUGHT sonic the fight would go like this Kirby dies…… and Kirby just goes “oh no anyway” oh and terminal montage kirbo and Jesus Christ can beat goku too

also kirby is also a toon force user and also smash bros kirby is outerversal due to defeating master hand who is above palkia and dialga who are the concept of time and space

@JulianHill-xd4bt

Ай бұрын

Smash bros characters do not have the canon tiers of their canon counterparts. at most they are low universal because all the smash bros have the capabilities to defeat galeem, who could destroy a universe. (Also master hands are below galeem AND tabuu sooooooooo)

Goku can tank a train

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

By any chance the train isn't something that bypasses his conventionals, then yes he would be fine.

@alexgreer6336

5 ай бұрын

@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 Indeed

yk i thought saiki would just stall em with telekenesis and then make eye contact with him so goku gets goofied

but you do realize that beerus can one tap arale which is also a gag character btw also having toon force (she exited the manga panel and told toriamabot to change the story and goku can beat king mickey cause his speeed is so fast he can move and fight within the space time of instant transsmision which can cover infinite distances so yeah

You are forgetting that Kirby could also eat me and take my powers as well if he does catch me

@Pixel_PedroYT

5 ай бұрын

goku no way

One Punch Man isn't his Nickname. His name is Caped Baldy. That's just the Manga's title.

you forgot that force ghosts can use force

i mean i dont think the road runner is beating just because of toon force giving that the most toon force stuff we see from him is running into paintings and making them real for a few seconds him being fast but not that fast and him being overly lucky but thats about it we dont now its resistance to actual body damage because in the show we was never touched

@corndogman4692

6 ай бұрын

Either way he's still a toon, like no matter what we've seen them do if they're a toon (especially a Warner Brothers one) then they can have crazy toon force

Wdym, saiki alone mops him (instigating)

@thecraggle7277

6 ай бұрын

Saiki would get shot by pac man

@khalyllife

6 ай бұрын

@@thecraggle7277 nuh uh

@thecraggle7277

6 ай бұрын

@@khalyllife he does

@khalyllife

6 ай бұрын

@@thecraggle7277 don’t know what your talking about Saiki absolutely destroys

@thecraggle7277

6 ай бұрын

@@khalyllife he doesn't

_Anybody who’s spent any substantial amount of time trying to analyze theoretical power of cartoon characters is a genius and should be given a Nobel peace prize._ - Zach Hadel

Can someone please explain to me why no one takes into consideration the personality of the character being gauged. I'm pretty sure Goku wouldn't go all out right off the bat. Not to mention he isn't the quickest thinker either. Not saying he wouldn't mop the floor 90% of the image, he definitely would.

Kirby would beat Goku because Goku would be too stupid to view Kirby as a threat. Imagine when Goku first went up to Zeno but Zeno immediately eats him.

Perfect video 📹 👌 👏

unless you count the endless fan interpretations of miku why was she there😭

@randomyoutuber2633

5 ай бұрын

I guess the battle cats version or something? Apparently that version has concept manipulation and is multiversal, because battle cats is just like that.

First of all, good video. Got a long comment here that might make it seem like I don't appreciate the work you put in 😂 The problem with putting anybody against Goku are the rules. Toonforce is just a made up term to describe comedy characters. Dragon Ball Z isn't a comedy, although it possesses comedic moments. So trying to mix genres makes it impossible, as The Animaniacs aren't involved in death fights to begin with. When it comes to feats and power scaling, we really can't trust Dragon Ball AT ALL!!!! We just say things like "This character has done this" or "that character is capable of that" when we don't consider whether any of that would be done at all. Most of Dragon Ball's "feats" are SAID but never actually SHOWN. "Goku shook the universe" because someone SAID so. "Raditz is faster than the speed of light because Piccolo's attack missed." Piccolo barely even knew his own attack at that point, and also didn't know how to even MEASURE the speed of light. Raditz also saw Piccolo charging the attack and could have moved PRIOR to the attack, as Piccolo just shot it out. "Goku can blow up universes!" Yeah, Goku has never even blown up a CONTINENT. No matter what form he obtained. In fact, if Goku is SO strong and so durable, then why isn't it that the bad guys who are stronger than him ALSO never blow up universes? Broly was completely insane during his battle with Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta and STILL didn't do enough damage to the Earth to even grant a wish from the Dragonballs (How, when they melted what seemed like the polar ice caps, I don't know 😂). Beerus, "The Destroyer" doesn't seem to want to destroy ANYTHING, and has even SAVED them on occasion. And his little 70% of power used against SSG Goku is somehow nullified because Goku went SSB, and SSB X20 Kaioken, and Ultra Instinct Sign, and Mastered Ultra Instinct, and then Ultra Instinct Sign that is somehow BETTER than Master Ultra Instinct because the Granola Arc says so, and Vegeta gets Ultra Ego, Piccolo gets Orange Piccolo, and Frieza gets Black Frieza... ...yet Beerus still isn't at 100%. They also never ever state that Goku is moving beyond light speed. SSB Goku and Golden Frieza were fighting and Master Roshi and even Bulma were able to witness the fight. BULMA. In fact, Frieza fired a blast at Bulma and she had time to react AND FLINCH before Vegeta saved her. Wonder how much faster than light speed SHE was moving. So we make all these claims about Dragon Ball when Dragon Ball can't even agree with itself half the time. Toonforce? Try "Dragonball Force" because there is zero consistency. The fans have made up their OWN power scale to try and make up for the incompetence 😂. The last part is personality besides just feats. Just saying which character has higher feats doesn't determine a winner. Mickey's feats in Kingdom Hearts for example don't even matter because he wouldn't fight a being like Goku who has a heart. Goku also wouldn't fight half of these people either. And if he did, he would be fighting for fun. We've seen that without ki, Goku has no abilities, and even in SSB, he was shot through the chest and would have died without being healed. So if anyone can shut off Goku's ki, he'd also lose. So let's take Neji shutting off Goku's ki. Goku would lose to Neji, whereas Vegeta wouldn't fight for fun and beat Neji. Aang would also be able to shut off Goku's powers. And unlike some other characters who are only SAID to be as strong by fans, Aang has actually DONE these things to people when need be.

Hakai is probably a dark move.

I don't get why Goku is always cited as such an insanely strong character. He's like the bog standard for an anime guy with superpowers.

hear me out, what if kirby could somehow sallow goku, and gain his abilities (through pure miracle)? it would at least be a fair fight, right?

Hey, uh, about Saitama's limitless potential feat.... it's nowhere near the same as the Saiyans, in which the Saiyans need to have a near death experience to have the Zenkai Boost work and they also require training. Within the manga as explained by the narrator, Garou had Saitama's ability to soar above his human limits and gain power. But even though he had the exact copy of Saitama's power, Saitama's power somehow adapted above that and continuosly climbed above. So if Goku was within the same viscinity of Saitama and fought him, Saitama would eventually be stronger than Goku in that way unless Goku does something very out of character such as go straight into Ultra Instinct and speed blitz. Again, this was shown in the Saitama vs Garou fight. In other words, mechanically, Saitama's power outperforms every other power gain feat and he doesn't even require further training.

Why crash bandicoot here

So why did you ignore Wario scaling to mario and luigi when you brought up goku scaling to Arale that just seems like bias tbh

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Also Arale is literally so powerful that not even Toriyama can keep control over her... The same author who's obviously above Zeñō, the one who no character can bypass... Yet Goku "scales" even though that cannot ever work given how unorthodox Arale is in comparison, every DBZ fan dick rides that arguement of Goku/Beerus being absurdly resistant to Toonforce, even though it's all merely an act from Arale... Just, just let that sink in. This isn't taken with actual patient nuance, so yes it is. The worst part is that the majority are accepting it right away like if it was indeed a gospel as that one commenter told me XD.

3:18 Counterpoint: Tera Electric Air Balloon

Arale has toon force but doesn't scale to Beerus and Goku pretty much does these days. Usually the use Namek Saga Goku for this (meaning he can JUST go Super Saiyan) and imo, anime Saitama scales to around here based on Boros. I'd give him the edge because Goku has stamina limits in SS until Cell Saga. I'm an anime only fan, so Goku basically in the next arc could probably win... but I wouldn't be surprised if manga Saitama scales way higher.

they had to bring a pokemon in this fight 2:57

7:56 but they'll just respawn like all the other lego game characters anyway so goku will eventually lose

Bruh. Kirby has an infinite power lore thingie.

KIRBY BEAST EM UP ALONE

bro miku's sole existence is universal, also she fought Godzilla lmao

@shadowocelot-56_95

5 ай бұрын

Although I know this won’t happen in a theoretical fight, she could have gotten modified like Cell, considering she’s a android. But she still wouldn’t stand a chance whatsoever

@eyei6535

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@shadowocelot-56_95 I thinks she's like a god in a dimension of music and dreams or something, atleast that what I understood from her game. Also she has a crossover in battle cats and in that game every anime character Is OP

Fair powerscaling!? What is this black magic!

You forgot that sans is only around sonic-hyper sonic. He would get blitzed and one shotted by kid goku

If super didn’t make goku restarted he will outsmart his aponent

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

5 ай бұрын

Yeah the integral nerfing really focked Goku's chances more.

force ghosts solo infinite respawns also the force ghosts arent actually ghosts but just the jedi's actual conscious

isn't kirby invincible though?

Nah goke neg diffs while given a gohan and goten a new sibling

Popuko and Pipi have broken the 4th wall and are full on reality warpers, I’d say they would defeat Goku.

*Loud Sayian Laughter*

Now what yiu said about king mickey may be true but in the dragon ball super manga in the goku black arc after zeno was done earsing the universe goku went out inti the white void and moved in it giving him immesurable speed

Wario scales to mario who has universal to multiversal feats so saying he loses is stupid especially since he blitzes and outhaxes goku

@sawekpiniuzk2007

5 ай бұрын

Wario is literally immortal, and that's canon

Ok but if Goku was just standing still, Kirby could just inhale him. he's done it to literal gods before, what's stopping him now? only problem is that some of Goku's greatest feats are speed, and he has instant transmission, so it ain't happening.

Kirby beats everything there