Love these Athletic pods. Means i can always get my fix of detailed football analysis. I know i'm a junkie. I'm not ashamed

@joekiddyshaw5757

Ай бұрын

Me to buddy 👍

I am so happy to hear somebody mention how many corners Arsenal get, I am shouting at my screen every time a commentator says how Arsenal have scored most from corners this season.

As a Liverpool fan, I've always really liked Frank and I wanted him as my 2nd choice to Alonso. I still stand by that.

@taliamason7986

2 ай бұрын

He would just be another Brendan Rodgers.

@bluedoughnut1334

2 ай бұрын

@@taliamason7986 0 ball knowledge

@ahuactzi07

2 ай бұрын

I concur, even over Nagelsmann who tends to risk more and has no EPL experience

@nigl2807

2 ай бұрын

@@taliamason7986 No thats De Zerbi. I'd rather Frank over De Zerbi tbh

@taliamason7986

2 ай бұрын

​@@bluedoughnut1334Its plain simple logic. Thomas Frank would be coming from a below midtable side just like Brendan Rodgers did when he too was doing wonders with Swansea City. How are you not the seeing the resemblance.

It's so funny how this hoster uses the word "fascinating" so often and he really looks and sounds fascinated by things 😂😂😂😂 Keep it on, lad!!

This was so bloody interesting. God, a million times better than the absolute CRAP I've been listening to on talksport all morning. Seriously great work guys.

Man Utd supporter here. I’m still Ten Hag in… at least through this season add probably the beginning of next season- as long as they clear out about five or six players (including one or two “untouchable” first trainers. But I am a big Frank admirer. I wouldn’t be happy if Liverpool got him. I think he’s class.

@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere

2 ай бұрын

be honest with yourself. Would ten hag be good enough for the Liverpool job. Ignore rivalry, imagine there's no bad blood between United and Liverpool and all yourself if ten hag would be a good choice for a big club like Liverpool. the answer is quite obviously no, so why do you loyal ten hag cultists STILL think he's good enough to manage United. He's an absolute fraud. His second game in charge he got absolutely battered at brentford. He went on to spend hundreds of millions on his own players (usually from Netherlands) and we went to brentford at the weekend at got battered again. He's made absolutely no progress whatsoever. These performances just repeat themselves. He's an awful, awful manager and our fanbase clearly shows itself as delusional by clinging on to this fantasy that he's going to suddenly just develop some competence and be successful at United. let it go, he's a dud. Just because you wanted him to be the clubs saviour doesn't mean he is.

@Gem2141

2 ай бұрын

A utd fan/Frank admirer and you want him at Liverpool!wild joke

@amputd

2 ай бұрын

Reread my post- “Wouldn’t be happy”

The table always lies. As a mathematician, I love that statement

@rory4605

2 ай бұрын

I got an F in maths at GCSE, Luton are top, right?

@eamonreidy9534

2 ай бұрын

@@rory4605 you missed the point by some distance, come back if it finds you and you have a thought

@rory4605

2 ай бұрын

@@eamonreidy9534 you missed the humour by some distance, come back if it finds you and you have a thought

@eamonreidy9534

2 ай бұрын

@@rory4605 your attempt at humour required a sardonic response. But I understand your confusion

@rory4605

2 ай бұрын

​@@eamonreidy9534 I'm getting there, eventually I will scrape a D grade.

Great episode Do you have link for further brentford content?

Enjoyed this, thanks.

Obviously they can, you don't even need to be a great manager to manage at the top. The real question is whether they can succeed at the top

@JamailvanWestering

2 ай бұрын

Ohh you definitely need to be a top manager but also a top coach

@otto_jk

2 ай бұрын

@@JamailvanWesteringCiro Ferrara Juve, Koeman Barcelona, Lopentegui Real Madrid, Avram Grant and Roberto Di Matteo Chelsea, Brendan Rodgers Liverpool, Niko Kovac Bayern Munchen, every single England manager since Capello. One can very clearly be a mediocre manager and still manage at the top usually it just leads to a flop.

@JamailvanWestering

2 ай бұрын

@@otto_jk or sometimes the entire isn’t fit together properly. Sorry but Koeman is decent rebuild manager, one you hire to trim the unnecessary, one who clears house and with the squad he then had that was definitely necessary. Also under him they actually played great again, especially when he shifted to a 3-5-2 Also a top manager to a mediocre club can cause the same effect. Ancelotti at both Napoli and Everton, Bosz at Lyon, Van Gaal at United, Mourinho at Spurs and United, Conte and Spurs and Chelsea,

Igor Thiago played in Bulgaria not Hungary.

Igor Thiago was playing in Bulgaria, not Hungary.

As a Liverpool fan, I'd love to see Thomas Frank at Liverpool

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Igor Thiago played for Ludogorets Razgrad before Club Brugge, Ludogorets Razgrad play in Bulgaria not Hungary.

I'm tactically un convinced by de zerbi. His football looks pretty and entertaining. Yet it does get him into pretty naive and heavy pastings when he runs into managers who can counter it. For Frank in comparison, his team is always had to play against on whatever state you find it. He tends to beaten due to inferior resources. Rarely due toinferior approach.

Why is this even a question? Is it because he didn't play for a big team or doesn't have a good PR team? It seems that there is a lack of respect for De Zerbi or perhaps a tendency to overlook his body of work. There are even suggestions that Thiago Motta is being considered for bigger jobs over De Zerbi. The prevalence of recency bias in these discussions is quite astonishing.

De zerbi yes and as much as I like Thomas Frank I’m unsure he can at the top level

@tomsmith3216

2 ай бұрын

Why do you believe de Zerbi is more capable than Frank? Honest question: what has he done differently to make you hold that opinion?

The clubs we laud now are just being thorough and professional in an industry that never has been before, they're not geniuses, their competition is just Steve Bruce or someone similar shouting "kick them lads!". I actually preferred those days, the football wasn't monotonous computer aided models but it's not a great achievement to be detail focused than managers who are down the pub! They'll be dozens of managers who can coach a well run club.. but it's personality that counts at the elite clubs, they have 30 coaches, they don't need a manager coaching... They need a big, strong character to run the club. Like we all knew Klopp would be a success! But there's not many around! Neither of these two are big enough to dominate a top top club in though. They'll be swallowed up and sacked.

@tomsmith3216

2 ай бұрын

In a way I agree with your sentiment, but I then disagree with your conclusion. Frank has shown that he IS a big character, capable of moulding a team in his image MENTALLY, but being tactically flexible. de Zerbi has not changed anything about this Brighton team mentally, but he has changed them tactically. And are they actually better off for that? Or are they at a very similar level to where they were before he took over? Plus, most coaching is mental, not technical, and Frank has shown time and again an ability to see something in a player and then get that out of them. It's shown in players like Mbuemo or Norgaard, or Jensen - who has become one of the best midfielders in the league, insane when you think about it.

They already are.

11 to 12 teams are worried about going down? What absolute nonsense, it is not that many. Maybe like between 6-10 teams at absolute most

Already been answered , by Graham Potter going to Chelsea & crashing burning

Ironic Ivan Toney plays for Brentford and the owner is involved in Gambling.

@chrisclassical7

2 ай бұрын

you would wonder why players can't gamble and owners can

@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere

2 ай бұрын

and Toney's full name is Ivan Benjamin Elijah Toney - initials IBET

@mustardegg2

2 ай бұрын

@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere In tears if true

@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere

2 ай бұрын

@@mustardegg2 I'm not even joking. Those are his actual initials

@mustardegg2

2 ай бұрын

@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere I will now always refer to him as IBET from now on

Before Arsenal needed a striker, Brighton needed a striker

Either these managers could become new Man United manager

@JamailvanWestering

2 ай бұрын

Would be a dumb decision

Too much data in football, so much so it's ruining it. Shot on target, possession? Fine. Heat maps, distance run, xG and that kind of stuff? Pointless. Players bought on data and not on talent. What people loved about football is gone.

@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere

2 ай бұрын

that is the most brexit comment about football I've ever seen. Football of today is far better than it has ever been.

@gentleken7864

2 ай бұрын

@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere Football today is not better. It's all about data and stats and less about the talent on show. It's been ruined by money. Clearly it was always a money spinner and has developed as such and having corrupt organisations like UEFA and FIFA at the helm are testament to that. Clearly you never watched players like Jay Jay Okocha, Le Tissier or Bergkamp play because you'd realise that football was rawer at that time and was more about skill than data.

@edu1113

2 ай бұрын

@@gentleken7864 that's just how it is in top leagues now.. your version of football is still around tho.. just much lower division or leagues in the bottom 150 nations in FIFA ranking

@antmanandthecod6073

Ай бұрын

The only people who think football is better now didn’t watch it early 2000s, now there’s more athletes but less talent

Someone there is as sick as a dog, master of coughing

Ok. 3 weeks later, we can say No, they can't.

No, maybe just below the top but not at the top.

The business industry you say? Tell me more. 😂