Can Black People Be Racist?
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE RACIST? Karen talks a recent story of being helped at Neiman Marcus... This bleeds into a deeper discussion about Clarence Thomas, and can black people be racist?
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*I'm UNapologetically BLACK at all times, and I treat each situation accordingly!* ✊🏾
@larrywilliams8505
21 күн бұрын
😂😂❤❤❤🌚
@Tongam53
15 күн бұрын
👏 ❤
@Linda-qt8qk
14 күн бұрын
Amen
@notinterested8452
8 күн бұрын
U N
I had a similar situation when I was buying my house. I already had a realtor, who was an Arab-American guy, and he showed my wife and I a few houses, but we hadn't found anything yet. Then I went on one of the housing websites, and I saw another realtor who was a Black guy, and I was thinking, "Hey, why not give the Brother the commission on the house sale." I regretted it the moment that Black dude called me back. Because he acted like I would be wasting his time to show me the house, he was skeptical on if I had the money to buy, despite the fact that my loan was ALREADY PRE APPROVED. I just told him forget it, and went right back to my Arab American realtor. I felt like a complete ass too.
@freeplax17
22 күн бұрын
as my pop says first you pull out the souladex and if that doesn't work you pull out the Rolladex. You give the brotha a shot that's all you can do, doesn't mean the next black man you deal with will be the same.
@michaelmaps2004
22 күн бұрын
No need to feel bad. At least you tried and your conscience is clean. I have been in similar situations where your people judge you first and ended up going with the other people
@tf5655
22 күн бұрын
You could have found another Black realtor. We only get one chance although Arabs enslaved us. Smh
@jenisereedus
22 күн бұрын
Often, we hate us more than wypipo…
@dnel7203
22 күн бұрын
So sorry he blew it for all of the other Black Agents you could have chosen that may have gone above and beyond for you. We realpy have to do better with each other. We expect more but expect the worst at the same time and We rarely extend grace to each other.
When you go shopping look for us first
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
we weren't there when I got there.
@HypnoticHollywood
20 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShow Trump's housing lawsuit was about him not renting to low income people of all races not just blacks because low income people have a reputation for being terrible renters. Black liberals like you racialized that incident just like you racialized Trump's Central Park 5 statements when Trump never mentioned the race of the Central Park 5. Lastly there's no proof Trump said he didn't want blacks handling his money. So instead of fake racist claims about Trump, I challenge you to do a show speaking on the confirmed racist history of former segregationist Jim Crow Joe Biden who was mentored by multiple KKK members like Robert Byrd and said he didn't want his kids in a "racial jungle" and called black youth "super predators". But I know you won't speak on Biden's racist history because you want to keep blacks on the Democrat plantation.
Lamont just has a healthy prejudice. He ain’t racist lol
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
lol...
I had a similar experience, I was in a Michael Kors store and soon as I walked in a nice Asian man ask me do I need help. He showed me different things and I picked one of the bags he showed me, he was so courteous and kind. I was still shopping for a little while, then I walked up to pay for the bag he helped me pick out. The cashier said who helped you, then she pointed to a black man who she had seen me with just before I walked up to the counter. The guy she was pointing to, just ask me did I need any help and I replied no. I could have said yes to the cashier and gave him a commission on my $250 bag, but I didn’t. Since the guy that helped me was not in our sight, I described him to her and she knew who I was talking about. It would have been wrong of me to give the black guy the commission when he didn’t even help me with anything, but the Asian guy did. So YOU WAS RIGHT KAREN! Do not let ANYONE tell you different. 😊
We can be prejudice, but as a people not racist (we don't have the systemic power)...
@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy
3 күн бұрын
So when 300k jobs are created in tech during the pandemic, and 95% go to poc and women, is that not systemic? What about when the VP of Disney is caught on camera saying they aren't hiring White's? Some of the biggest companies in the world are OPENLY saying they don't want white people. Y'all lack morals. And reading comprehension because you can simply Google the definition of racism. An individual that is black can absolutely be racist. There's nothing in the definition excluding blacks. NOTHING.
I've had Black people who missed a good commission just because I am Black. They thought I couldn't afford it, but they were wrong.
😂😂😂this is the best. It's too funny yet true. On a serious note, I believe that one of the reasons we as a people have been able to survive is our ability to do the right / moral thing.We don't want others to judge us by our race so we shouldn't judge others by their race.
@gabrielmaroto18
22 күн бұрын
Because we want America to live up to its promise
@imani6547
19 күн бұрын
Okay, but we live on Earth. We are judged by our colors. I think we all just want fairness regardless of color. Ms. Karen was ATTEMPTING to be fair to the Black woman because she knows the historical and current plight of Black ppl, but in doing so, she was unfair to the white woman. That does not make her racist. The fact that she even had to THINK about leveling the economic playing field tells you so much about the SYSTEM of racism she was trying to navigate. Calling HERSELF potentially racist is proof of how much race has ahold of our minds, even though we are at the receiving end. It is like a victim of domestic violence feeling guilty about slapping someone after they just got punched. This racism thing perpetrated against our people freaked up our psyches. Racism is a problem initiated by white racism. It is sad that she even has to feel this type of guilt for something so simple, but so big at the same time.
@ZZ_The_Boxing_Cat
15 күн бұрын
@@gabrielmaroto18 America is the least racist country on the planet.
@cheeriog9394
14 күн бұрын
it’s always the darker ones that are racist I could never understand that.
Y'all are having TOO much fun. And y'all done got me in stitches from all the laughing. Loved this show!! 🙏🏾🖤💯
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
that's the point of #FoolishnessFriday...my favorite day.
I'm with Lamont!!! I love seeing my black dollars being placed into black hands. Karen you had a spiritual conflict. Not a racist one.
Got me laughing hard... Love all three of you.
LOLOLOL!!!!! You three were foolish for that mess... I loved that segment. Y'all made me laugh more than I intended to.
I'm with Lamont lol 😂
Karen was right in this situation. We can’t be so jaded that we end up being the very thing we are fighting against. The woman did the work without incident…she gets the commission. Lamont 🤣😂 Smizz is an entire vibe 😂🤣😂
@mychann33
22 күн бұрын
Idk if it jaded. Let's discuss higher end purchases... I've walk into Showroom falls just to be totally ignored. So when I look for a black is part of it is knowing, in most cases, I'll be taken seriously.
@sonicarter1108
22 күн бұрын
@@mychann33 not necessarily. If you read the comments further below.. you'll see a gentleman give his account on buying a house and thinking the black realtor would be a better pick and that was not the case. I also experienced a similar situation at a car dealership. All skin folk ain't kin folk
@mychann33
21 күн бұрын
@@sonicarter1108 correct. Them have to be on par to perform to job its not an open pass to provide subpar service.
😂This was hilarious but so accurate🤣
😂"Make sure Ms Theresa gets the commission "😂
I've loved listening to your show for awhile now Karen, and as someone who is not black or white I've been called slurs by people of many different races so I'd say that everyone can be racist on a personal level. I have had two hate crimes happen to me in life due to my ethnicity, one by a white MAGA guy and the other by a black man. I've heard the "black people can't be racist because it's about prejudice plus power" arguement. Maybe there is truth to that on the systematic level, but I'd say on an interpersonal level, yes, everyone can be racist. Though I will say, white supremacy is the biggest threat to POC in this country right now, so defeating white supremacists is priority.
I like that guy Lamont. He thinks like me,and I don't feel bad. This video gets a thumbs up because of him.
@lovelydaye6640
22 күн бұрын
Same here
B1. 100% WITH LAMONT❤🖤💚
This video clip had me laughing so hard. 😂
This was a fun clip 😂
Karen did the right thing.👍🏽
😊 Fantastic Conversation you guys, Keep it going & Big Love from London UK 💖💙🤗🇬🇧🙌🏿🙌🏽🙌🏻
Lamont says B1 fo ever fo ever ever?😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm team Lamont over here! I'm rooting for everybody Black all day everyday!! We're not getting reparations anytime soon, if ever, so why not support each other at their expense?! They did it for hundreds of years and are STILL doing it.🤷🏾♀️
Hollering at Karen and Rod. 😂😂😂 But yes, Karen you were right 24/7 and twice on Sunday.
Definitely a topic worth discussing! I had to ask myself this question frequently, and this is my opinion. The topics of discussion we ought to have are what is discrimination, being a racist, and being racial. These terms can be confusing because of their similarity. All three make strange "bedfellows."
This ain't a race issue it's a right issue. Only two times I won't support my black brothers and sisters, one is Karen's situation and secondly in the case of bad service.
Lamont pulling out all the stops. 😂🤣😂🤣
We can be anything 🔥🔥🔥
Oh, this was truly hilarious. Thank you all for making my day 🤣
Lamont clowning today 😅😅😅😅
@lovelydaye6640
22 күн бұрын
Nope. He's right.
😂 I have to side with Lamont on this one man I probably would've looked out for sis, Karen mentioned that they told her folks wouldn't come to them at all and I've seen that a few times when I go shopping. So yeah I would bless them. Real talk
I love this segment, I smiled the whole time I watched this. The agreements on both sides had me so conflicted. But in the end I had to walk in my humanity and side with the brother who tips and professor Hunter. 😂😅😊 This was highly enjoyable.
I often wonder if non melanated people have similar discussion or do they even care? I seems like they automictically know to stick together.
❤❤❤ there is accountability I’m team Lamont ✊🏾 restitution a natural response “ In living color” Always
It is a self serving greed and opportunism.
Excellent advice.
I had a situation a few years ago, I was buying furniture and a white young man was helping me with the purchase and was very helpful and professional over two days. When I was finishing the purchase a black manager ask me to give him the deal so he could get the commission I thought this was wrong and completed the deal with the young white guy.
My last car purchase I went to dealer staff and emailed the sister and told her when I was coming in worked out perfectly 😅😅
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
different scenario...
Is it possible to be a racist if one is economically disadvantaged? Faith, Hope and Love!
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
hmm...sure. you can impact people's lives and livelihood. Carolyn Bryant wasn't rich and she certainly impacted Emmett Till with her racism.
Lamont is right! Professor Karen acted prejudiced. She was not racist. I choose Black every time. 😂
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
he's not right.
@RickyTricky7
22 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShowYou should do a live show on how Black democrats hate straight white Christian men. Who supports Trump
@hcpalmer
22 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShow - Agreed he isn't correct in this very selfish, self centered stance. It's very simple, if we as black folks don't like it when it's done to us, why would we inflect the same unfairness on others. Truly sickening!!!
@ronjross
22 күн бұрын
Make some distinction between stereotyping, prejudice, discrimination and racism! Discrimination based on race is not racism. Read Neely Fuller! He wrote the book on Racism. "Racism is White Supremacy."
I'm with Lamont + compassion.
We can absolautley be bigoted & prejudice, but we don’t have the legal nor legislative power to be racist.
@davidmolina7543
22 күн бұрын
Touché
@beatsbydizzy8932
22 күн бұрын
facts
@LI-pm3mh
22 күн бұрын
Exactly
@gnuir
22 күн бұрын
This is the most focused and intelligent comment I have read in a long time
@AndromedonThanks
22 күн бұрын
It’s no way in hell we can share the same word for what they did/do to us. I don’t even get why sis saying this.
I’m not black but having grown up with black people I identify better with black people. I’m Mexican and I grew up in the hood where my family was the only Mexican family in the hood. My best friends whom I considered my sisters were black. I love my black brothers and sisters in god. I’m impressed with the black people because they have fought for their freedom and their fight continues. Let’s face it black people are talented beyond measure. I love their food I love their musical talent and I love how hard they fight to be recognized. I listen to mostly black artists. Keep up the fight my black brothers and sisters. I respect all that you are and continuing your fight for freedom and rights because you are deserving of all human being rights. Thank you for your culture.
Yes.
Unfortunately, “like kind ain’t always of like mind”! 🤷🏾♂️
Yes prejudice but not racist 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾vote blue 💙💙💙💙
Its discrimination
I'm always just looking. Untill I find what I want. then I find the person that I choose to help close the deal 🤷🏾♂️
Yes
“When does it end? Who stops it?” Critical questions.
Lamont is a mess
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
a whole mess.
Lamont heard of the Black Tax... 💯
I'll walk around and look first... but I will say there have been times when the other came with great energy and I gave them the sale. And if you provide great service I will trip accordingly irregardless of who you are.
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
isn't that how it should be?
@mychann33
21 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShow it's should. But it's safe to say we are the main ones that aren't afforded that treatment. Agree with both sides because of this... why in this country do we have to be the ones to take the higher road when we have been mistreated the most. Okay I'm back lol. Love the show... I'm a Knubian too.
@mychann33
21 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShow it's that we as a people were held back for so many generations, I think about my grandparents, it almost like we can't afford not to support each other even. But ultimately your decision was right because it wouldn't have sat well within you otherwise.
🗣️Racism is not our problem to fix! -LK 2024 B1
WHAT IS THAT SONG IN THE INTRO 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@hanablemoore8239
22 күн бұрын
Karen intros be fire. All of them. Lol she got that shit on lock.
Racism requires power.... Prejudice does not.
@jacquelinescott8301
21 күн бұрын
Word.
@jacquelinescott8301
21 күн бұрын
There it is in a nutshell.
@magyare10
16 күн бұрын
Well theres a reason why we have terms called "Systematic Racism" that covers the power dymamic... Racism alone doesnt necessarily refer to the power. People are interchanging those things.
@ZZ_The_Boxing_Cat
15 күн бұрын
Bullshit. If you treat me differently, based on the color of my skin, then you're racist.
Wait now, Ms Teresa; I thought it was Ms Ann 😂😊
You did the right thing by giving the commission to the appropriate person but black people can't be Racist. We don't have the power to financially impact the so called 'majority' on a large scale. Just because they say hello and Let Us buy from them doesn't mean they aren't doing racist things on a large scale. Lamont is right about leveling the playing field. Always remember, 74 million!!! Great convo!
The whole “there has to be a power structure” thing is dumb and not a valid definition. Anyone can be racist.
When u spend US green, u should train ur brain to convert that green to BLACK 🎯 …every time. In Prof. Karen’s real life scenario, she was absolutely right to FIX strife created in a commission environment❣️ Again, the wrong was upfront in not preparing to convert a small amount of green to black. BUT 1 penny, 1 nickel, 1 dime at a time financed Black Wsll Street, Lincoln University, 1st banks, insurance company here in NC. THIS time we should function with understanding “the divide & conquer game”. Amen & Amen again.
So when a Black person - woman specifically - says "I do not want to work for a Black person (boss)." Is that racist?
😂. Lamont is full of it.
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
@Mrlamontking is! LOL.
Lamont need Jesus!!!! Karen you did the right thing. The lady may have had two children at home. Great Job Karen.
Do unto others. When does this begin and end? Is there a difference between system and individual? When you felt bad it was your conscious. ❤.
This was a great topic but I'm with Lamont all day 😅
@KarenHunterShow
15 күн бұрын
and you, too, are wrong...LOL.
I think Karen did the right thing based off of the situation she put herself in, because she already accepted the help from the white sales person. In the future be intentional when shopping. Shop black owned and when you are not shopping black owned go to black sales person so they get the commission. Karen you shouldn’t have had the white lady help you without first searching for a black sales person.
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
she was the only person there when I arrived, which you would know if you listened to the actual show on @SiriusXM.
Yes, by the way, you explained it when you were in Neiman Marcus or Nordstrom!!
It may be bad, but I’m with Lamont. If someone else did do the work, I would’ve given them the commission. However, when I can, I try to give work to our people bc just as Lamont said, how navy people won’t go to the sister/brother in that same day?
Clarence Thomas hatred is himself we can be racist I have a big problem with whyte women I’m praying asking God to help me 🙏🏾💙💙💙
Quit playing Lamont. 😂
Your right Karen, Lamont you are too much 😂
Is a conscious reaction to combat disenfranchisement in a system racist or an act of strategic resistance? Being fair when you're on the bottom may not be sensical...definitely not advantageous. "War is based on deception" ~Sun Tzu '''; Might be why we're losing.
The guy with the hat on is always annoying to me.
They have cameras in the store; the store knew who helped Karen. Those ladies would have lost their job for keeping that commission from "Karen",if she had of went to the boss.
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
nah...that would not have happened. I carefully orchestrated, leaving for a period, coming back, etc.
That would be the practice of institutional racism.
To answer the question, Black people can be racist, but in most instances, it's not racism when it involves Black people. For it to be racist there has to be a belief that one's race is superior to another, and there is the belief that the superior race has the right TO DOMINATE the lesser race. The second and most important part is the maintaining of social, economic, and political power of the DOMINANT group in that society. Can Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, or Candace Owens be racist? Yes, because they function as proxies to the dominant White Society. So when Latasha Harlins was murdered by a Korean shop owner, the owner was racist by serving the larger White society and MAINTAINING White Supremacy. The reason why most instances are not racist when they involve Black people is because those non-Black people would never be in a situation where Black people are the dominant group. Dr. Hunter was displaying favorable PREJUDICE toward that Black associate because she was not dominating the White associate or had a belief that her Black race should dominate the white associate. Also what dominant society was Dr. Hunter's actions maintaining or supporting? It would be considered racist if she were working at BET and overlooked the White employee for a promotion and gave it to an unqualified Black person.
I am conflicted. I can applaud your honesty but would not necessarily raise your thoughts to an act of racism . The system would couch it in terms of reverse racism to alleviate the need to look at the overall systems that prepuate racism. Perhaps if there was not an underlying system of racism in employment you would not have considered giving the black person the commission. It is complicated especially when we have a history of non melinated people denying being racist while giving a preference to their own
Racism seems to be another useful tool used in the categorization of the social hierarchy of a universal caste system. Mixed up and blended in with power, wealth and the superiority mindset.
Sorry Lamont you’re Dead Wrong
Discrimination is what most of us display in situations...Imho
Equalizer ❤❤❤❤❤
Treat people the way you want to be treated, regardless of race. I'm mixed and don't know anyone who is racist, unless I am to consider some of my cousins, who are black... just leave your paper bags out of it. lol
Karen is right 😂😂😂
She see's Green = Commission and the Black woman know what is for me is for me Shame on you LAmont
In black majority countries they can. In America and other nations where they are in the minority, black people can only be prejudice. Although often used interchangeably, racism and prejudice have a stark difference as racism pretains to the societal apparatus built around prejudice. If a group has none or limited influence in society, they cannot construct an apparatus around their own prejudice. Therefore, they can not be racist in the technical sense. Any group can harbor feelings of prejudice against other groups, though.
This has got to honestly be one of the dumbest conversations I have ever heard. I’m only three minutes into this and my head is already hurting. In fact, I’m no longer even going to continue watching this. Goodbye.
@selectone-mc5yz
22 күн бұрын
That's from foolishness Friday🤣and I found it hilarious and silly.
wow the answer is yes, we as blacks are sometimes just as racist
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
not just as...ever.
Clarence Thomas is an uncle Ruckus
Thats part of our problem. Why do we have to feel as if we have to always be the moral compass for the nation. This is learned behavior from master. Were a sick people. Its not our job to stop it.
@kirascullark5224
21 күн бұрын
I agree with part of your statement. It's def not our job to carry everybody on our backs!
Black people can be anything they want to be, as long as someone else isn't trying to control their property, their freedom, their story, or their opinions. It would be very strange if Black Americans didn't consider the "a White American or a bear" question.
Well, I gues this answers the question of the title of this post So, Yes!
Many Black people realize how difficult it is For black people. Sometimes we do this because we know the disadvantages black people face in this country. However, you do what you feel is right for you, but don’t judge others by what you do.
I'm disappointed Karen's perspective is not more evolved on this issue. Dr. Claud Anderson explains racism very well...and this isn't it.
@KarenHunterShow
17 күн бұрын
I'm disappointing in you.
@KarenHunterShow
17 күн бұрын
so because you agree with a particular view doesn't make mine wrong...who determines who is correct? I'm so disappointed in how banal and UNevolved so many of you are and have the audacity to come in here and check me. So you read something...do you know how many brilliant perspectives there are out?
@eduardorobinson9190
17 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShow I just recently found your channel and have been quite impressed with your perspective and analysis on a myriad of issues. Forgive me if I seem combative. It's important that we are specific when we speak of racism because history determines who is correct. The truth is always the strongest argument. Anyone can be bigoted, prejudiced, or hold implicit racial bias. To be a racist is to have the power and framework to weaponize that prejudice through legislation and systems in society to deliberately inflict harm. Racism is fueled by economics and represents the largest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen. ADOS, along with other people of the Diaspora, have earnest grievances against their respective governments and to conflate that with name calling or any of the other examples you suggested is in fact disappointing. I love your show and the intellectual thought that is available here. I apologize if I offended you.
Racism requires POWER, so the question answers itself.
We do the right thing ALWAYS. We keep ourselves behind yt ppl. They keep taking because we keep giving. Ijs.
I am another one too, black people can be prejudice, but not racist,we do not have the power to be racist.
@KarenHunterShow
22 күн бұрын
until we do have the power. In this instance, I had the power.
@BighomieRich
22 күн бұрын
@@capoislamort100 it’s obtuse to say power is ‘always’ collective…both can and do exist
@LamontKing
22 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShow you didnt have any SYSTEMS in place where that power was exerted
@seekermel3079
22 күн бұрын
@@KarenHunterShow Exactly! You were the one with the $$ and a moral person's conscience. That's a powerful combination.
@chakesluv
22 күн бұрын
Yet, as Europeans decrease in numbers and power.
Hey, this is the part I taught my offsprings, give us a try, and if it does not work, try another, and another. We must give more than one try prior to jumping to the other side. Not to say some situations will occur where the person who serves you satisfactory may be the other side. Treat them the same way, as anyone, just don't search them out. As an entrepreneur, I have been dismissed for someone else to get the commission of listing a house for being the wrong color. They said on the phone, they did not want an agent of color. (This was in 1979). Still a strong memory. I never ask for, but will browse until I can approach who I am targeting. Many times they run circles around us in terms of sales, because our own won't shop or deal with us.
@CKing-uf4tu
21 күн бұрын
Karen Hunter, this is Lamont's mom, lol. I heard this part a day late. I have bee too busy to listen like I want to. But I have the number.
I think we need a standardized definition of racism. Racism is the ability to deny an entire group of people something they need or want. You are talking about prejudice, not racism. Racism requires a power component.