Can-Am Outlander 650 vs 850 XMR Shootout | Which One Do You Buy? | Is The 850 Really Worth $2k More?
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Today on Let Dirt Fly, we put our 650 and 850 XMRs head to head in some gnarly mud, on the trails, and even in a drag race! When deciding which of these two quads to buy, there are a lot of things to consider. Do you buy the plush 650 XMR that is awesome in the mud, or do you buy the insanely powerful, aggressive 850 XMR that lets you conquer every mud hole you come across? Find out in this video!
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imagine a 850 calling a 650 a baby over and over again while being a baby itself to the 1000...
It's like everything else. 31s or 30s work until everyone else has them and someone gets 34s. You only need a 570 until someone gets a 650 and goes into a mud hole nobody would before. It's a giant game of keeping up with the jones'. It's just about hitting trails and holes you can do so you have fun.
I sold my 2012 outty 1000 and ordered the 2020 XMR 650 when it came out. I was not disappointed in my decision. It has plenty of power. I just installed halos, and the xmr snorkel riser kit which, I think, looks really good. I don't submarine my bike, so this was what I call a 'last chance precaution mod'. Even though I don't need them, I plan on installing a clutch kit, and some kinda of exhaust at some point. I think the 650 is perfect.
@sethharman3006
3 жыл бұрын
The 650 has plenty of power and can do just about anything you want it to. Great machine to have.
Killed the intro!!!🔥🔥🔥
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Killer video as usual. Thanks
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike!
Looks like fun but all our local woods trails have been totally torn up by disrespectful riders and now many can't be passed by regular riders on regular machines. It's fun as long at you aren't ruining the only trail for everyone to use.
Awesome video guys!
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul
Love the Video... may have to get ma a 650 😂, thanks for the inspiration
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Its a great machine that anyone would be happy owning.
Great video, looks like a great time
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis!
I love the two way microphone as your quadding.
@LetDirtFly
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Great vid!
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks RC as always!
Thanks for another great video... I chose the 650, but I'm not doing mud holes and that stuff, just trails, and backyard rippin and snow play... Also curious what system you guys use for helmet comms etc. it sounds great.
@martinperron7765
2 жыл бұрын
But the drivers in this video the 650 driver was less experienced
Already ordered my 2021 650XMR soooo.....yea 👍😁
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Its an awesome machine! The 650 is getting some bigger tires soon and is going to give the 850 a run for its money!
Just started following you bc I’m thinking of picking up an xmr 650 or 850. I’m from Saratoga NY didn’t realize you were relatively close
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! We hope we helped a little with your decision. If you grab either machine you’re going to love it. We’re actually from the Newburgh area, but this place was only a hour and 40 mins from us which is a easy day trip. Should be a similar ride for you, if not closer from Saratoga. Good luck with the machine hunt🤟🏼
First r Max I’ve seen getttin sun too nice 🤘
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
We want to do a full in depth look at the new R Max. It’s definitely an awesome machine being it has such a short wheel base for a 4 seater.
Awesome videos brother. Keep up the killer content, definitely a new subscriber. Also what's the name of the song on your outro?
@LetDirtFly
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you! It's a new song that Seth and Marshalls band is writing.
My 2020 650 xmr blew the secondary clutch so been waiting on parts. Thanks for the vid guys
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Dang that’s crazy! Are you upgrading to a aftermarket or staying stock?
@Chris-no8qi
3 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly staying stock but if I upgraded probably would have got parts quicker.
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
True. The factory stuff right now is hard to get right now. Marshall is going to be going with a new primary soon and going to shootout of the stock clutching vs a clutch kit vs a entire primary replacement.
@Chris-no8qi
3 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly I honestly just wanted to get it back running and didn’t even think about it at the time been missing so much ride time I only have 500kms on my 2020. I don’t much hit the mud like you guys because most my ride gang isn’t mud machined
@clay_Thomas
2 жыл бұрын
Really? sorry to hear man such a new machine too
What mic setup are you running?
Fun !! I have an outlander 650 🤔
seth needed that cam am power
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Now Marshall is baby brother 😩
I would have been on the live chat at 9 tonight but my wife has me watching below deck at that time lol not my fault
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Happy wife happy life. Lol
There is a very noticeable change in Seth's attitude since he started rockin the 850..hahahahaha!
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
It does things the polaris couldn't. Lol
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
We’ll see how his reaction is next video. We’re breaking the Polaris and CF Moto back out 🤟🏼
Yes I do agree that the 850 xmr needs some kind of exhaust which one are you guys thinking of putting on? Also will he do the ecu flash from wholesaleatv also because they run way too lean from factory.
@sethharman3006
3 жыл бұрын
just ordered the mbrp, and the cvtech clutch for it. flash will be coming soon.
@MrTylerg506
3 жыл бұрын
@@sethharman3006 awesome! Mbrp is a nice one too! 👍😎🤛 it’s plenty loud and not as loud as the yoshi.
@sethharman3006
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTylerg506 from what i hear it sounds great. Just don't want it to loud.
@MrTylerg506
3 жыл бұрын
@@sethharman3006 Oh trust me it will sound awesome! Also it won’t be too loud/annoying. 👍😎🤛
Fire content also man good job 👍 Now I want to see what a cvtech clutch would compare to the 850
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Been looking into it. Might be coming in the future.
@sethharman3006
3 жыл бұрын
the 850 is getting one. just ordered it.
Nice camera!
Liking the new intro
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@Xm_r_word
3 жыл бұрын
Cool to see Seth giving 0 fuc&s and his axles holding up 🤘🏼.
How does the 850 ride compared to the sportsman 570? Thinking about getting an XMR but don’t want a bike that rides like a tank lol
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
OK so the Sportsmans is a pretty cushy ride stock. I had hd springs in mine so the ride wasn't anywhere near as cushy as stock. But the XMR is still stiffer then the Polaris with the heavy springs.
These two options are what I'm trying to decide between right now. I mean the 650 has enough power but my ego says get the 850.
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
There are big differences between them. The 650 is still a great choice. You can check out some of the later videos to see what was done to the 650 to make it more like the 850. I would go 850 if the extra 2k isn't the deciding factor. -Seth
@legowolf22
Жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly Considering the new xmr 850 doesnt have Fox Podiums anymore would the Reny xmr 650 with the Fox Podiums be a more equal value platform? I would just get a novawinch anyways and cvtech reguardless which machine. Now it comes down to 16,150 Fox or 16,500 200 extra cc's.
@LetDirtFly
Жыл бұрын
@@legowolf22 Power is worth the money. I would go 850.
Hey bro I got a 2021 650 xmr and I got 31” outlaw 2’s and I still have problems clearing things. I had 29.5 assassinators and it helped me out with clearing but they’re just too heavy
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Are they true to size?
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the ground clearance issue with the 650 vs the 850 is also the suspension. It’s much softer then the 850 so it sits a bit lower. I’m eventually going to go with Ella suspension which I’ve heard helps keep your ride height much higher without sacrificing ride quality
@CruiseTunes88
3 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly they are true to size
@CruiseTunes88
3 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly nice bro update us when you swap the suspension
I figured a pipe, tune, and clutch would of made up the difference
What intercom system do you guys use ??
@sethharman3006
3 жыл бұрын
lexin b4fm & ft4
" come on baby 650 " Laughs in Renegade 1000
Where in NY are those trails? They look pretty good, I'd like to ride them.
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Atv club near troy. Posted a link on our facebook page
@dsmtsi
3 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly Ahh ok, that's a little far from me. Too bad as those trails look good.
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
In order to ride them you must have the membership for the year. Unfortunately no day passes, but if you lived close enough it’s 100% worth it
Where do you guys ride in New York Bc I’m from ny
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
We are in the hudson Valley. Near Poughkeepsie
Where you get those hats at?
@sethharman3006
2 жыл бұрын
Super clean sent them with some products to try out.
What state are you guys riding in
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
New York
Lol that 650 is real cute compared to the 850
Marshal will have a 1000 next video ;)
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
You never know 😅
Me having a friend 15, 6,3 he needs the 850 but when I got on it I couldn’t even reach the bottom I’m also 15… lol
@LetDirtFly
2 жыл бұрын
We used to use wood blocks back in the day to reach the footwells lol
Bro Skimming the isnt the same as going through it. That 850 would have the same if you actually went through the hole
Where yall riding by Albany ny? im down near catskill
@LetDirtFly
2 жыл бұрын
white oaks atv club in troy area
@dirty_worm_850
2 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly there's a club in troy ? lol . never knew. good vids.
Plus with only a clutch kit your 650 isn’t getting all it naturally aspirated power Cvtech would make a world of difference compared to that clutch kit an your rite ground clearance is king
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Look into the CV Tech. We want to do a clutch shootout. Stock clutching vs a clutch kit vs a entire clutch replacement. Should make for a really cool vid!
5:50 you can tell it’s about the driver and not the atv
Haha “braydon price” that’s the best comment ever.
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
LOL I’m waiting for Seth to start playing bumper cars now 😂 ugh I hope not 😩
@lenn.2907
3 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly now that would be worth subscribing on my girlfriends account too. Haha
🤘850
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir. Its' a beast.
Stock cryptids on that 850 are not 30s either
@sethharman3006
3 жыл бұрын
no they are not.
@jarrellstephens1867
3 жыл бұрын
Any idea why they didn't put true 30s on the 850.
@sethharman3006
3 жыл бұрын
@@jarrellstephens1867 i don't know why they are under sized.
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
I think it was for clearance issues. The “30s” they put on are pretty tight to the footwells and they probably promised 30s to the public, so they had to do some fudging on the tire size lol
@jarrellstephens1867
3 жыл бұрын
@@LetDirtFly thanks didn't really think of it that way. Makes sense. I think everybody would prefer a 28 that's true over a 30 that's a 28.
Just get a 1000 don't even bother with anything less.
@LetDirtFly
Жыл бұрын
1000 isn't for everyone. Personally didn't want the long frame.
Cryptid are garbage tires
@LetDirtFly
3 жыл бұрын
They work great for us and our riding style, but if you follow our social media, we now have System 3 Xm310 and Terache Aztex tires. Keep an eye out for the next video coming soon
Just winch it out lol you fucked up by not having it I 4×4
I wanna get into the quad seen, a Can am, of course. I've been told multiple times to get one. My struggle is what size? I think a 650 XMR would be all I need? But an 850 XMR seems to exceed at the mud holes. I think a 1000 would be way too much personally. So I guess it comes down to budget?
@LetDirtFly
Жыл бұрын
So there’s actually not too much difference between a 1000 and 850. The 850 actually has more torque because it’s a longer stroke. The 1000 is a smaller stroke but bigger piston so it make more power up to. If you’ve never risen a quad before or are newer into mudding and what not, I’d definitely recommend a 650. It’s a perfect starting point. Once you get comfortable, you can do some mods like a tune, exhaust and clutching and you’ll be keeping up with 850s easily. If you’re a more experienced rider I’d go straight for the 850.
@billknight5578
Жыл бұрын
@LetDirtFly Thanks. I really appreciate your imput. Now I gotta find a quad. I like 👍
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