So eye opening, thank you David!

David's knowledge of these different things just scrambles my mind! Amazing engineer!!! Awesome vid David.

Very cool! It shows a LOT about the differences between analog and digital

I’ve got a no tube eq and plugins don’t even come close. I couple it with a bettermaker mastering eq which is also great. Wes for colour and bettermaker for surgical. The pair make me smile every time I put something through my mastering chain 😊

Very informative! Thank you!

At the end of the day, whatever you use, analog, digital, or both, are tools to hopefully create great music. Happy creating.

@LoveMeBack

Ай бұрын

It’s about saving money. Not saving creativity.

@yurijogurtsov8710

28 күн бұрын

this statement doesn't null well with the fact we're all here watching this video

3rd video I’ve seen on this and the most professional engineer covering it.

@trashunicorn2308

Ай бұрын

This!

Ah you beat AP Mastering to it! I was hoping someone would do this. You never fail bro 🙏

Yeah I think the plugin industry is about to face a slight reset with the awareness growing that all digital EQs are able to null each other and this was a great way to show the power of analog

@arnoldwatkins805

Ай бұрын

Full analog studios too expensive.

@RJ1J

Ай бұрын

@@arnoldwatkins805Not with Access Analog and similar services.

@ema6897

Ай бұрын

Yeah so true man people like music because you do a +3db high shelf with the metal box and not the pixel window

@GingerDrums

Ай бұрын

The difference is mainly in the phase shift of the transformers and output stage. Acousitca audio and other impulse response plugs model that... Paul Third actually makes an attempt to explain the reasons for the differences in sound

@dougleydorite

Ай бұрын

@@arnoldwatkins805not true. Take advantage of sales and Slowly add gear over the years. Wes audio often has 20 % off

Isn't this test a bit pointless if without engaging any bands you already have such a big difference? The question is, where is that baseline difference comming from? Added harmonics? Non zero EQ curve / phase shifh even without engaged bands? Without compensating for that (assuming you even can do it), all the rest of the EQ moves kind of loose their meaning because obviously it will never null, even if the actual EQ curve would have by itself. An additional thing, even so, you might have got a better null if you also moved the corner frequency, not just the Q. Different EQs can have different corner frequency definition, especially considering analogue EQs. I really think if the goal is to try to match EQs, plugin doctor helps a lot, you can check for added harmonics, and see how the curves match, regardless of what the EQ interface shows with regards to the frequency, q, gain... All the best! Cheers.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

I promise you no matter what you do you ain't gonna match.

@AlexLapugean

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv I'm not saying I don't believe you, but it would be very interesting to see where that difference comes from. I am very curious about this and nobody seems to address this analitically, showing WHY they don't match, rather than just that they don't. Can EQ curves be so different? I would find it hard to believe you cannot get virtually any EQ curve with programming if you aim for that. Saturation? Most analog EQs have small amounts of saturation, and in any case, if that was the only signifficant difference, you could just use a color box instead. I genuanely want to know, I'm not pretending to know better.

@RJ1J

Ай бұрын

@@AlexLapugean Watch Paul Third's last video, came out today. He explains phase and other factors in analog eqs that make then colour the sound.

@AlexLapugean

Ай бұрын

@@RJ1J I did, But he mostly speaks about different digital EQs, very little about analog EQs. And simple phase shifts would od course cause the 2 signals not to match but they should not really change the signal tone when applied on a mix bus setting. At least that is my understanding, you can add for example an all pass filter which completely flips the phase around a corner frequency and the sound is exactly the same. I treat those that say they can hear phase rotation the same as those that say they hear "better transients and depth" with a $1000 speaker cable.

@AftertuneMusic

Ай бұрын

​​@@AlexLapugean analog eq has all the technical aspects that digital simply can't provide.. Analog eq for eg. Are constantly moving the phase due to the electric passing though, has little difference of the right and left channel again due to their electrical behavior, the color, the harmonics and phase are partially linked to how hard or soft you hit them(harmonics especially), the band interact with each other in a way that's different based on the circuits build, the have transformer sometimes same type of transformer for I/O sometime different for input and different for output.

love this. it must of fried your brain having the goal be a null, and your instinct to make things sound better. i know it did for me just watching it.

It would be nice to see the match using plugin doctor, maybe the tube EQ is enhancing different regions than its showing with the curves. Anyway, nice video, fun to watch.

@trashunicorn2308

Ай бұрын

But he didn't try to match the curves, did it by ear

@Standard.Candle

Ай бұрын

My takeaway is that the inductor-based analog EQ just has more gentle Q than it's reporting. Would explain why it sounds so smooth. Maybe all inductor-based EQs are like this? Or maybe Q3 just has sharper curves than we realize? Plugin Doctor would be another level to this mystery.

Light years away! And this is just one.. Imagine having multiple units like you do. Wow! Thank you for the video

Thanks for the test! As always, great to see your content. It would be interesting to see what Waves Qclone could do there… it would basically clone the EQ curve of the analog Eq… without phase and harmonics obviously.

I would use something like the Bertom EQ curve analyzer VST to match the PRO-Q curve as closely as possible to the analog EQ. Just for fun and curiosity.

AS everyone else said, very eye opening and interesting. Do you think with a non-tube eq the results would be closer? Like with the 5500 or MAAG?

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Not really, no tubes but you get the xformers of the 5500 which are even more colored than tube and inductors on the maag (which frequency and amplitude indicated in the front plate are more of an indication than a precise number)

Great comparison :)Please if you want a fun cheap eq test then the fully balanced douk audio T8 Pro. I use it i love it! I only upgrade was a linear power supply. This 7 band eq is only about 120,- 🎉 every studio should have one really. They should make a 500 serie model of it

Very cool and wow, not even close :D

Great video dave, i think with the Michelangelo the results would be closer but not the same ofc

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Definitely it wouldn't. You don't even have a control for the Q on it and limited control for the frequencies or and filter's slopes

Why not using Plugin Doctor to match the curves ? It would have been more precise and easier.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Because it doesn't matter what you use they ain't gonna match. I trust my ears (especially when doing a null test) and it shows a lot more what the video was supposed to show.

@RutgerS.

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv no one has perfect hearing and everyone is biased. You can say plugin doctor or bertom analyser won't help, but you're not showing it. Actions speak louder than words.

Hi David, I have a quick question. Regarding Bass, 808s and lick stems, in my case the 808s and kick still have some low information below 20hz~16hz and I wanted to clean it , would it be better to use a high pass filter in the stems first or just finish my mix and high pass the whole track in the master? Basically the question is 'cause when I high pass only the kick or 808 stems I also need to align the phase. I was wondering if using the low cut in the final exported song would change the phase of an individual element.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Single tracks. Always. Kick and 808 are not SO directly related that you will affect the phase relationship if you use HPF individually. But if by any chance you feel like you are, bus those two to an aux and clean the aux. SImple.

@nashse7en

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv thank you so much

Thanks for making these incredibly informative videos. :D Needless to say, these two weren't even close to cancelling each other out! And honestly, trying to match analog curves with Pro-Q 3 (which some bright minds out there swear by) is long, strenuous, counterproductive and ultimately inaccurate. To say nothing of matching THD.

Hi David, you switched to JBL near fields now? What do you prefer about them? I never tried them.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

I had the jbls for years. I just edit on them

@MuzdokOfficial

Ай бұрын

​@@mixbustv Amazing studio. 😎But second to the man of course!

Hi David, I have a question. What kind of analog bus eq would you prefer a parametric or a pulltec style ?

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

I don't think you need a full parametric for 2bus. And Pultec style is definitely a choice but semi-patametric would be my choice. Even something like the Empress gives you more than "just" a Pultec, the new IGS 825 is also another choice, Maag if you like that style/sound, even API 5500. These are all semi-par

@Studio22mix

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv Thanks for sharing, I have been looking at the Empress which would fit my budget. The IGS-825 is a beautiful beast but a little too expensive for me now. I also have my eye on the IGS Rubberbands. I think I need to check a store to listen to the IGS options 👍🏼

@Studio22mix

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv Hey David, I listened to the Empress today and I think I'm sold. The mid-band is an awesome addition and the tube-boost and shelving option are sublime. However all my gear is black as it should be imo but this one is going to be the white sheep in the family. Thanks for the recommendation I love this beauty 🔥🔥🔥

use bertom eq analyser, it's a freeware for matching eq. It's impossible to match with phase invertion

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

No, it's impossible to match. End the sentence there.

@IliasPanteliasGR

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv it won't match on saturation, but you could match the eq curve accurately

Would the match eq feature on pro Q 3 work better than trying to do it manually?

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

That function doesn't even work well with digital.. I find Ozone matching better than FF

@astrarivm

Ай бұрын

Just use plugin called Eq Curve Analyser.

What do you say about getting NgTubeEq or the new IGS Tube Eq for mastering?; I know they are different and the price but if you would get one. Best/Mathias

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

I honestly can't answer that. They are both incredible eqs and if I could only get one it would only be a matter of time until I get the other too.

@MR_Cellarpop

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv Understand :)

I will do a design of experiments (DOE) through the Big Six and the Fusion to lock down the EQ going in. G bus too?

Phase shift is also different on different EQs

Doesnt first correct underlying phase rotation of boxtone and proceeds to show phase differences when adding equal eq curves. They will never be identical because of some random elements of the Analogue eq, but you can get a lot closer than that

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Do it. Don't tell.

What I would like to know is if you get two different analog hardware EQ's to null. I would imagine that they would not null because they are designed differently.

🔥

I have the Tegeler Creme, do you think it is also a difference vs plugin?

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

I'm not aware of a plugin version of the tegeler creme. You mean in general? Yes, any analog. I've only heard a few plugins that emulate a piece of analog that are close enough to probably not make a difference. But I'm talking 3 or 4, that's it.

@nocuelatio9798

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv There is no plugin version of the Tegeler Cream, i just have the analog. Thanks!

@aleksamrkela831

Ай бұрын

Lucky!

Did you know that passive EQs use passive components because they have the least distortion (coloration) in electronic design ? Basically their goal is Pro-Q3 in a box. Then why not using a Pro-Q3 in conjuction with dedicated saturation box that offers much more control over saturation needed ?

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Have you ever used analog? Try and you'll get the answer to your question. Isn't it funny though how nobody said anything about better or worse but the plugin crowd has to say something like this (as if even with a saturator or 10 it would be the same). Oh and yes I knew, and I also know that is not the only reason, nor the main one.

@ema6897

Ай бұрын

​​​@@mixbustvYou won't be able to pass a blind test between hardware and plugin. And even when you do it's because you spent 10+ years playing with that specific expensive toy on a high end monitoring setup, after being told what to look for in the first place. There will be no consequences in the enjoyment of the music for anyone. This shit is pointless on a practical standpoint, I understand it helps maintain your status as a professional, just stop deluding yourself and spreading misinformation.

@hahdanghongha7810

25 күн бұрын

you cant even create the same sound with Plugin and Saturation do it then you can say others speading false information

@bakerlefdaoui6801

25 күн бұрын

@@hahdanghongha7810 You must be imagining things. Who mentionned others are spreading false information ? 🤣

3:53 you clicked low shelf on the Pro-Q3 and it still made a high shelf! What sorcery am I witnessing here?

@Arianbn

Ай бұрын

Yeah wtf happened there😂😂😂

@RobertCow

Ай бұрын

have you heard of video editing?

@AVBouncypanda

Ай бұрын

Nah I'm a complete idiot that knows nothing. Oh great one show me the way! The prophet making the most amazing and insightful negative comment on this benign post. Thank you for your generosity and criticism.

I knew the answer but still watched the whole video, very interesting! TY David

The harshness from Pro-Q3 is caused by cumulative calculation errors due to not high enough bits resolution. I encourage you to try the only EQ I am aware of that works in 117 bits (Weiss EQ is a 40 bits EQ in comparison), it's the Kirchoff eq IN 117 BITS MODE enabled + 2x oversampling. Try it on a master if you can, you will be shocked how a calculation error free EQ can sound even when you throw +10db at it on a master. But it's CPU draining...

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Who talked about harshness? 😄 I didn't say anything about that. Also, I can try any digital EQ you can name, it ain't gonna match. It ain't gonna match by adding "a saturator" or 5 , it's just not gonna happen and the reasons should be clear to anyone. This was not to attempt to match because it's not gonna happen. It was to show the differences and give people who can't try analog an idea. How do you "match" the stereo field differences? And how those differences changes based on settings and input and output levels? And why would you even want to go through that pain? Lol imagine doing that while you're mixing

@bakerlefdaoui6801

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv I might have not expressed myself in the best way. I wasn't commenting your video or its goal, but more about sharing that shocking discovery in kirchoff that I thought was a Pro Q3 clone, which sounds MEH in mastering. When I digged in its manual and digital audio physics, I understood why when you click on that 117 bit button on kirshoff, it didn't sound eq was applied even at +5 db, which reminded me the best passive designs like your EQ. My point was with better digital designs, the null test should only show analog distortion differences. Cheers.

Surprised you didn’t use plugin doctor! Would be curious how the plugin version compares too. Along with how much distortion came up. (First comment was before watching video watched it now).

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

What plugin version? The plugin version of what? Also this is music, you match with music not with images

@CreativeMindsAudio

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv for sure! honestly that was my favorite part of this! it was with music not sine waves, still curious how it stacks and what harmonic distortion is imparted. I was mistaken i thought you were using a different analog plugin. misread as weiss audio vs wes audio (my bad as i just woke up). that being said, curious on your take of the whole analog emulations vs pro Q3/stock EQs. also could the tube harmonic saturation be replicated with a plugin after the pro Q3? i doubt it because it's hardware and that's hard to match, but curious how close you could get it with your skills!

Not that it isn't fun, But in real life, I don't feel like trying to match q particular piece of hardware with a plug-in is the right approach. Instead, how to best process a mix with the tools you have. Addressing what it needs directly... And how you'd like it to sound.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

No it's not, that's kind of the point. But sometimes, IT IS the tools.

Knowing that most digital eq can be null'd with each other, this says a lot about having multiple analog eqs. Now I get it!

@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY

Ай бұрын

Wattage, Amperage, & Voltage versus 0's and 1's....LoL W.A.V. typically wins.

Doesn't Pro Q3 have an EQ Match function to do this auto?

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

In theory yes. Now how well it works...

@CaptainProton1

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv Yeah I'm not a fan of Q3, just sounds a bit plastic to me. Most plugin EQ's just have that sound. Give the P450/P455 suite a go by Pulsar Modular I think you might like this release. one of the new bunch of really decent sounding plugins that make you want to work in the box more.

Dave... You did it again my guy! This was a fantastic illustration with the very best EQ plugin on the market vs the newest best analog EQ on the market and how it could not replicate or provide the "sauce" of an analog Eq.... I don't know if you know who Paul Third is I would love to see a conversation between you two on the difference between analog and digital.

God Bless David Gnozzi 🙏🎵 God Bless President Trump 🙏🇺🇸

@Studio22mix

Ай бұрын

David for president 😂😊

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.

No !!!!

Doesn’t this just mean that the analog changes a lot of the phase?

David, you could've easily used 2 instances of Bertom Eq Analyzer and matched them perfectly, while in your DAW. I use that plugin to help me replace my digital eqs with my hardware SSL and GML eqs. This looks a lot more tedious, but I'm still glad that you shared! Oh, yeah.... hardware wins every time, for me.

It will certainly be difficult to match these two EQs, mainly because of all the mess that ngTubeEQ makes in the signal. The THD alone can be quite a lot, so you'd have to measure it first and add some saturator before the Pro-Q3 to get the saturation ratio close. Curve matching would be better done with the automation built into Pro-Q3, as I'm convinced that ngTubeEQ doesn't stick to what the control plugin interface itself displays. Already with these manual experiments you can see that the q-factor in ngTubeEQ is usually much wider than declared. Simply put, these are two completely different tools. ngTubeEQ is a joyful mess. Something like carving in stone with small explosive charges. Lots of fun, not much precision. Pro-Q3, on the other hand, is like a scalpel. It adds nothing of its own, but has terrific accuracy.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

SPL PQ would have all the accuracy, and they wouldn't match either. Actually with the SPL 120V technology the transient response and headroom would be a really bad day for anything compared to it. As for the Wes, I think "not much precision" does NOT fit for this eq, and that's why I picked this one: with digital encoders so precise that you can do 0.15db cuts and boosts.

@MaciejCzub

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv The Pro-Q has better headroom and transient response, by definition. Here I think there is no room for debate. ngTubeEQ can race against other analog equipment but not against a digital algorithm. As for the lack of precision, I'm referring to this control interface. When we compare these displayed curves with the result from Plugindoctor, the differences will definitely be visible. Of course, in mixing this is not a problem - after all, we judge by ear, not by eye. However, if someone had a need to use EQ for some, for example, scientific research on hearing testing, it would be better for him to reach for Pro-Q, not analog.

Yes saturation plugin (Pancz, AA JAM, AA Pumpkin Pro, Arturia Culture Vulture, etc) x digital eq (Pro Q3, Eventine Split EQ, etc.) = analog eq hardware. You nailed it.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

😄 you're funny

@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv It works though. THanks for the shout out.

OK, let’s accept the contention that there are genuine differences in the sound produced by the outboard that can’t be matched by using a plugin EQ. What are those differences? Harmonics, phase, amplitude? It would be useful to know, to better understand what the ‘magic’ actually is. And is the contention that they are not *currently* creatable ITB because algorithms or impulse response-based processors aren’t yet refined enough, or the contention that there is something in outboard gear that inherently impossible to recreate? I accept its complex with multiple components etc. but I’d be sceptical of the latter conclusion unless there is some fundamental mathematical barrier to reproducing the audio wave generated by the outboard.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

You can be sceptical, yet nobody did it yet. That's your answer.

@89hdjdua

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv OK, so what is it, in audio terms, that is the difference that the failure to null is showing? Is it phase, harmonics, amplitude, some modulation of the above, or something else? Is there a way of actually measuring and defining the difference? (Isn’t that where plugin doctor comes in?) Or are we saying that the difference is beyond our current ability to define and describe it objectively? Your tests do appear to show a genuine difference, it’s what that difference is, in scientific terms, that I’m curious about. It is ultimately just sound waves, a physical phenomenon that can be represented mathematically, that we’re talking about so I feel we should be able to identify, define, and describe the difference objectively.

It'd be interesting to see an analog box and its emulation in an as null as it gets test. Doesn't necessarily need to be an eq, can be the black box or whatever.

@RJ1J

Ай бұрын

I agree. Acustica Audio plug-ins emulate real gear with impulse responses, should be able to get close.

Please use plugin doctor.Thank you!

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

To do what exactly? No matter what you use or how much time you spend on it, you ain't gonna match or getting closer

@HeartDrumMachine

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Mayby gain is different not only q.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

This eq is digitally controlled. Can't get more precise than this.

Pro q and saruration, now u gave analog eq😂

@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY

Ай бұрын

Yes saturation x digital eq = analog eq. You nailed it.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Sure you do. And I'm a unicorn.

Try it against London Acoustics Osaka, Tokyo Tube, Prime Studio Caribou or AA Green Ultra. They hold up against or surpass any HW. Fabfilter is the most digital sounding EQ out there, I never got the hype.

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

How much money you wanna bet?

@DVNT

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv well, if you let me work on same stems then I'm down. Doesn't have to be that track. For someone who promotes AA you sure don't seem to believe in their tech. Caribou Lows are HUGE. So, yeah, might have to use a few different plugins but I think I can get a better sound honestly

@DVNT

Ай бұрын

​@@mixbustv point is you already know the conclusion you're going to come to at the end, you're not even trying nor using the best of the best. Make Believe Studios, Pulsar Modular & Kiive are also doing some incredible work now. If you hate plugins so much stop making payola videos, it comes across as really fake & disingenuous. You love your hardware, cool, so stop selling out to plugin devs for a quick buck.

A picture and a painting of that picture will never be equal.. lol

@keithferris9574

Ай бұрын

Some of the biggest mix engineers in the world only use plugins, and they are still producing great results. Andrew Scheps has a very meaningful quote. "The only thing that matters is what comes out of the speakers". You can care a great deal about how one plug-in can't match the capabilities of an equivalent pice of hardware, but no listener cares when they are enjoying a professional recording whether or not expensive hardware was used. Listen to The Blue Hour, a Grammy nominated classical recording that was mixed completely ITB by Andrew Scheps. It sounds absolutely incredible, and without me knowing that he doesn't use hardware anymore, I would have no idea whatsoever. You wouldn't either.

Such a flawed test since 1.0 equals 0.71 on Pro Q3 by design, and it only affects the first harmonic. What's the point in doing the test if you can't set it up? I appreciate the round trip of the converters, but that should be done after in the chain, not before, as the harmonics would be different.

@mixbustv

16 күн бұрын

Such a pointless comment repeating what I literally stated at the beginning, gotta love when they try to "catch you" with a piece of information you just gave in the video lol. Watch again, maybe you'll understand the point of the video. I doubt it, but you can try

@Fwuzeem

16 күн бұрын

@@mixbustv why did you put it at 0.71 when that equals something completely different then?

@Fwuzeem

16 күн бұрын

I'm not trying to catch you out, maybe you have misunderstood that 1.0 in Pro Q3 is the same as 0.71

NFuse - Neve bus - you must review it - best bus going

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Tell the company

@mistermusicenterprise3148

Ай бұрын

Man I made a comparison with NFuse and the real Fusion Hardware. Sorry but the plugin have nothing to do with the hardware. The NFuse Neve .. I can say nothing. But the Silk knob do something nice. But I guess the hardware is miles ahead from it.

@justinb9387

Ай бұрын

@@mistermusicenterprise3148 oh , well if you have the real thing your lucky - im sure it is better - I think its really good - the widener is fantastic - plugs have 1 good thing going for them , you can save , so it means you can spend hours on the track getting it right - with hardware its one take - and obv lots of buses with it - the hardware sounds a lot brighter in the tests i heard on youtube.

@RJ1J

Ай бұрын

@@mistermusicenterprise3148 I agree. I've seen comparison videos and it's nowhere near.

should've used three body tech eq

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Why😆 ? What do you think it would change? Because I can null proq 3 with that.

I am definitely NOT at the level David is, but for me this was no surprise at all. I see a lot of comments on here talking about using Plugin Doctor, possible different corner frequencies, and many other things that could have helped to get a null. Again I am no expert, but no matter what David does it is NOT going to match. The simple fact of the matter is that there is just WAY to much happening within an analog unit that plugins cannot (and probably never will) duplicate, even if using a hardware emulation plugin. Its almost like comparing AI to humans. Every resistor, variable resistor (potentiometer), rheostat, capacitor, inductor, diode, triode, pentode, BJT, MOSFET, JFET, transformer, tube...etc. (you get the idea) adds its own little signature harmonic sound to the source. Not to mention that each of these devices will react somewhat differently to different frequencies, as well as act differently to the exact same frequency at different temperatures. There is more I could list, but again I think I've made my point. Its just to many constant changing variables for 1's and 0's to accurately duplicate. With that said, there are many plug-ins that harware cannot duplicate. Its just the way it is. This just my humble opinion. Awesome video David! Thanks for the comparison man.

@aleksamrkela831

Ай бұрын

Excellent take! Well said.

Dude, you need to change from zero latency to natural phase on prOq3

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

And? How much you wanna bet it ain't gonna make it any closer? Dude.

@henningbortne8650

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv dude 😂 try at least

Match Tomo Audiolabs LISA + Knif SOMA + Oversampled-Spectral PANCZ + Acustica Audio JAM + Acustica Audio GREEN 5 ULTRA against ngWesTube EQ

Waiting for the ITB crowd to be mad lol

We are truly at the "audiophile ethernet cables" stage of cult insanity...

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

Why? You can't hear the difference? Because it's pretty massive, differently from the audiophile cables. And please don't say it doesn't make a difference because mix and mastering engineers live in the world of these type of differences.

Kind of lame really, to try to match an analog EQ with the most clinical digital EQ around. And not even using any analyser is like trying to make milk from water. You can do better than these clickbait videos, really!

@mixbustv

Ай бұрын

You completely missed the point of the video I see. But let's entertain the conversation. This is my bet: no matter what you used you can't match it. Let's hear what you say instead and then we can trying proving it.

@RutgerS.

Ай бұрын

@@mixbustv you could say that if you put all the effort in it, which you obviously didn't. Make a video with some analyser, match the eq curves, match the saturation. You will come very very close to the point that in a full mix no one will hear it. The point is that you really should put some effort in it, but you just wanted to say that you're a cool guy with hardware and hardware is the best.

Plugin manufacturers who sells analog EQ to innocent people. 🤡

The amount of snake oil that's normalized in this industry and the way people like you embrace it to maintain their elitism makes me sick to the stomach.

@mixbustv

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😭😭😭😂🤣 nobody cares. Cheers

@aleksamrkela831

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Don't run your mouth about things you barely understand.

@ema6897

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@@aleksamrkela831 Yeah clearly your glorified knob twister knows everything audio and doesn't vaguely yap without any substance.