Hey Goodhumans, thanks for watching the first episode of The Verdict! We hope you love it. Also, we’re looking for Production + Post Production + Casting Interns, Development Producer, Product Manager, and Experiences Manager to join our family! Apply on our website: jubileemedia.com/careers

@AveryLeachMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Jubilee I love this!

@SparksFlyAldc

4 жыл бұрын

Hi! Love you guys!

@DavidCeeya

4 жыл бұрын

So much fun being a part of this!! Thank you. ❤

@professionaltaco

4 жыл бұрын

Continue this please

@bradyryan3514

4 жыл бұрын

Please do more of this type of videos!!!

Buzzfeed: Hotdog Facts Jubilee: Deciding if someone should *die*

@johnseena4026

4 жыл бұрын

remember me when your virall 😚👁👃🏼👁🤣🤣🤣

@zg208

4 жыл бұрын

madi posada me too

@DavidCeeya

4 жыл бұрын

You could say we had a bit of a "God Complex."

@DavidCeeya

4 жыл бұрын

@@Scorpionic_ I got into s Twitter argument because of this one guy who was criticizing free speech in Jubilee videos. Its crazy we all should have important discussions

@DavidCeeya

4 жыл бұрын

Buzzfeed ripped off my "I Dated a Guy and a Girl at the Same Time" video and Jubillee invited me to be in their video. I'm not playing favorites but... cough cough Jubilee wins. ☕

“later home he killed his mother,father and little sister” liz: YIKES

@LinasVolodzka

4 жыл бұрын

MOOD

@karend169

4 жыл бұрын

Just thought the same thing.

@TheSreYTK

4 жыл бұрын

That made me laugh so hard

@teagansavage3670

4 жыл бұрын

Troy Bolton voice: *yikes*

its crazy how some of them thought a psychopath would sit in jail and think about their actions

@katara1641

3 жыл бұрын

They really think someone who killed a seven year old child would sit and contemplate his actions, they seem so detached from reality

@Gabi-pn1fw

3 жыл бұрын

sitting in jail is even worse than death, why should we be afraid to set him free? just don’t lmao keep him there and let him go crazy with himself.

@daysandmoon7738

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gabi-pn1fw most death penalties have you wait 20-40 years until your execution date, unless it’s under extremely circumstances. plenty of time for them to think and go crazy.

@Gabi-pn1fw

3 жыл бұрын

@@daysandmoon7738 oh really?? i had no idea

@zzm2405

3 жыл бұрын

@@katara1641 I guess it depends on whether the murder had any empathy or not, ‘cause when you’re overwhelmed by extreme emotions, you might commit extreme actions, look at all the veterans who needs psychological support after they got back to home.

What they don’t understand is that prison usually does not help you return to normal life. The harsh prison life can increase mental health problems and make people more prone to aggression.

@katara1641

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, going to prison and being treated like crap doesn’t make a psychopath love people and start to value life more

@owenbunny4023

3 жыл бұрын

“American prison” kek

@anti-school6771

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes give them mcdonald burger and treat the prisoners like a King and queen Right?

@MappingEagle

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why we need prison reform lol. Look at Norway, where prisons are focused on rehabiliation and prisons succeed in learning people skills for when they get out. When you get out of jail in america for example, tf you gonna do? Nobody's gonna hire a former criminal, especially not one with no qualities.

@keianao6369

3 жыл бұрын

What part of murder was normal to begin with?

The main question is why they all argued with the grandma instead of the other four.

@yolo.kay4191

4 жыл бұрын

Period.

@dageneral6557

4 жыл бұрын

She was easily the most well spoken

@Arisairspace

4 жыл бұрын

She was the unspoken leader of the death penalty “squad”. Her testimony swayed 2 people in under 10 mins

@jasminemandy60

4 жыл бұрын

Because she is super smart.

@aDubStepdrop

4 жыл бұрын

Most stubborn

Why is this literally all millennials and then just one old lady

@Adrieanana

4 жыл бұрын

yes variety in age is needed

@357Dejavu

4 жыл бұрын

Guitar Beginner tips I agree! There needs to be representation from all ages (old enough to be on a jury).

@idratherbewithmycatrightnow

4 жыл бұрын

@@Adrieanana ok boomer

@frostwindsgaming8645

4 жыл бұрын

I mean the freakin old lady was biased cuz of what she went tru... That's not a correct jurry if someone in the jury had a similar experience.

@heysaucemikehere1804

4 жыл бұрын

I'd rather be with my cat right now Lmao How is wanting it to be fair a boomer thing?

*Kills 4 random students* "There could've been abuse, or neglect" *Then goes home and kills his family* "Uhhh.. still abuse and neglect" Like... did his 7 year old sister abuse him or something???

@zederps7118

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think someone that has killed 7 people and injured 12 others could change. I held firm in this idea when i heard this guy killed his 7 year old sister. This just shows lack of empathy and also shows his moral compass is completely skewed.

@kate-zh4ny

3 жыл бұрын

@@zederps7118 personally I feel like it would be worse to rot in jail your whole life. however, I respect your opinion and keep going back and forth myself.

@zederps7118

3 жыл бұрын

@@kate-zh4ny That way I phrased my response seemed like I was pro death penalty but Im actually not. Many of the leading arguments of the people in the jury is that he could change and I disagree with that whole heartedly. I completely agree with you rotting in prison for these type of people are the way to go imo.

@kate-zh4ny

3 жыл бұрын

@@zederps7118 exactly! completely agree with you! I really don’t think there is any rehabilitation for these people

@StarryMidnight

3 жыл бұрын

The part abt killing his family was untrue

Guy: *Murders his family and multiple classmates while also injuring 20 others* Woman: “It’s fine, he can just lead a group in prison and teach others to be better, and learn from his mistake”

@la95921

3 жыл бұрын

He shouldn't be in a prison and be given the chance to "get better". They should've voted death penalty.

@parkerverran9719

3 жыл бұрын

@@la95921 I think you might want to do some more research into how ineffective the death penalty is……

@gamerslatestnews819

3 жыл бұрын

@@parkerverran9719 aman to that

@gamerslatestnews819

3 жыл бұрын

Not true he can change

@gamerslatestnews819

3 жыл бұрын

@@la95921 your wrong

It cracks me up how it’s just everyone vs someone’s grandma.

@swarma_b33f

4 жыл бұрын

That someone died...

@CALLMEKAFOI

4 жыл бұрын

@@swarma_b33f she said her son died I think? not her grandson right?

@Yue_Jin

4 жыл бұрын

Gotta gang up on the smartest one in the room.

@error1186

4 жыл бұрын

JakeOhT 😂💀

@ShiningDarknes

4 жыл бұрын

grandma vs the world

“See, now you’re tripping” *_Me wheneever someone disagrees with me_*

@jj_is_the_goat_2230

4 жыл бұрын

Yo this is so true

@sunnc

4 жыл бұрын

They were really tripping tho

@ajonye

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao that black lady is such a legend

@unnderneath

4 жыл бұрын

I like her, I agree with her and I'm 23.

@ghssop826

4 жыл бұрын

As I read that she said that at the same time

I think they completely missed the psych profile of a school shooter. You don't shoot up a school because you live afterwards. No one thinks they can shoot up a school and just run away. They want to die, it's like suicide, but making shure someone goes with you, making them feel your pain, and making sure you get talked about after you die.

@dumblonde8872

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, death penalty is what they want. Keeping them in prison or a mental health facility to be studied to prevent future tragedies is the right thing to do.

@eb-e2887

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, i’m so glad someone pointed that out

The older woman talking about her son made me so sad :( EDIT: also some people are saying that Cynthia wouldn't have been on a real jury, which is correct; but her insight was really meaningful and powerful

@bwooja2031

3 жыл бұрын

i totally agree with her stance but the statistic he pulled out totally threw me off lmao america doesnt have school shootings because they lack public executions, they have school shootings because they lack gun control

@janed1926

3 жыл бұрын

@@bwooja2031 i agree 100% its not bc we dont have executions lmao

@hep8008

Жыл бұрын

It really isnt. The law doesn't make judgements on your feelings and emotions. She was too emotionally compromised to be an objective member on a panel

@mgs85

Жыл бұрын

@@bwooja2031 that’s not true either, gun control is not the sole reason this is a uniquely American phenomenon

Whoever came up with this should get a raise!

@MabelRD08

4 жыл бұрын

Worddddd!!! (: so good♡♡♡♡

@alialithe1

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks I appreciate it. Infact I've gotten a raise because of this idea. ☺️

@unknown-qk1dy

4 жыл бұрын

@@alialithe1 wait who are you?

@s.9383

4 жыл бұрын

Star it wasn’t his idea:// the real creator that came up with this is pinned in the comments in the next verdict video

@avagami26

Жыл бұрын

Isn't the creator of this video idea the creator of the movie "12 angry men"? That was abt 12 jurors sentencing someone to death, too

Cynthia don’t be playing no games! She called out everyone “see now y’all trippin!” 😭

@brinaechanel4236

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Sanders 😂😂😂😂

@XPXhumble

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Sanders 😂😂😂

@JoJo-zg5df

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 Proven fact black ladies give -50 fucks once they pass the age of 45

@ellam1316

4 жыл бұрын

Alpha -200 after the age of 50

@jonathanthainguyen

4 жыл бұрын

Once her story with her son came out, she should have been dismissed. Her emotions clouded her decisions. You can tell by almost all of her comments.

how is shooting up a school a “mistake” and i agree with the old lady for literally all of these

@littlebearoverlook

3 жыл бұрын

"Sorry Finger Slipped"

@omarespinoza3264

3 жыл бұрын

@@littlebearoverlook bro is friendly fire on

@tmck4138

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong school?

@owenbunny4023

3 жыл бұрын

He put the switch on full auto by mistake, brrrrrrr and missed most of his shot

@zevzuu8491

3 жыл бұрын

Same

i think that they should have been more clear about the definition of the life and death penalty. i think many people thought that the death penalty means you get killed a few days after the verdict or something, but the person who actually committed this crime is 40 years old and still waiting to be executed. so he has been waiting all these years for his exact death, and he knows exactly when he’s going to die. he can still sit around and live decades after the crime.

@hitemwid1t

3 жыл бұрын

Also, it was no clarified what the sentence was. Life or death, for all I know it could 20 years to life. Also death penalty isnt that bad imo, you can always appeal it and have 20 years to do so.

@monkeyman321

3 жыл бұрын

@@hitemwid1t Death is also not so bad either. Sometimes staying alive can be way worse.

@mr.mayorr7793

3 жыл бұрын

@@monkeyman321 do u think someone deserves to live and breathe oxygen after senselessly killing so many people? Don't u think these serial killers deserve to not be on this planet? Idk just asking.

@sndsd4311

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.mayorr7793 do u really think living and breathing are that great?lmao specially in a prision that's worst

@joeymerlis

3 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda surprised nobody elaborated the fact that death penalty is so expensive compared to life penalty, all that tax money gone to waste for a mofo like that?:/

Everybody was comin at Cynthia, like dang. She isn't the only one who thought death penalty was correct

@nashimsheikh4428

4 жыл бұрын

Funny how they were comparing the death penalty and the crime in the same bracket of "murder" Lyk those victims were killed innocently while this guy is meant to be punished ....

@DavidCeeya

4 жыл бұрын

There was so much more footage. I think it appears that way in this edit. We all LOVED Cynthia. :)

@robton261

4 жыл бұрын

@@nashimsheikh4428 right, exactly

@robton261

4 жыл бұрын

@@DavidCeeya well y'all could've talked to the other 2-3 people too

@jackwilliams4932

4 жыл бұрын

Nashim Sheikh exactly a punishment is a punishment not a punishment for a crime is a crime, like he killed 7 people yet some of them were trying to make him the victim. They should have worked with the facts not the possibility’s

Because Cynthia’s son was murdered in a drive by shooting she would have POTENTIALLY not been selected as a juror in this trial

@josoell9123

4 жыл бұрын

correct me if i’m wrong, but aren’t jury members chosen by random in actual cases? i don’t think they look at who has experienced what when they choose the members

@jlarson5392

4 жыл бұрын

jo soell they do, lawyers on both sides are given the chance to reject jurors with personal experience/ bias on the details of the case

@anikparadis7241

4 жыл бұрын

jo soell Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but usually the lawyers get to excuse potential jurors based of their profiles. So usually they’ll excuse anyone with personal biases or that have any experiences that will skew their judgment of the case.

@naydenbear

4 жыл бұрын

@@josoell9123Before becoming a Juror, they go through an interview most of the times.

@Cj-ul2ye

4 жыл бұрын

@@josoell9123 they are, but certain circumstances can bar you from serving, like if you knew the victim personally or stuff like that. anything that can give a bias, I believe

My brain hurts watching them justify a guy killing his family including his small sister and classmates

@elonmiddleton1098

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think anybody is trying to justify it. The person is still going to get punished it’s just them deciding what is most effective for all parties involved and affected.

@ksb-2115

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody justified the shooting?

@calientita104

3 жыл бұрын

Justify, understand, and empathize three different concepts

@darko4046

3 жыл бұрын

@@elonmiddleton1098 yeah but think about it we need to take out the depression in the environment that’s hurting people right

@brndnii7840

3 жыл бұрын

@@darko4046 taking the depression and environment out of it, im sure we can all agree death is an easy way out for an assassin. a killer, psychopath would suffer for 50+ year in a life sentence then have peace at death, while a death penalty would be a easy way out. even then, death penalties aren’t quick, and they take years. they also cost more so it doesn’t seem very good

There’s fates worse than death that’s why I was rooting for life sentence because it’s way crueler but I was surprised to hear everyone choose life sentence because they have so much faith in the U.S prison system being able to rehabilitate a psycho path when they fail to even rehabilitate an average inmate

@Unfiltred_honey

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think his inmate would be safe

@betacuck3145

2 жыл бұрын

@@Unfiltred_honey exactly. Murderers become kings in prison. Everyone fears them, so they don't suffer as much

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

@@betacuck3145 Which is arguably why they should be harsher on inmates (Of course no unnescessary abuse, or abuse in general.).

@mickarivera8793

Жыл бұрын

You have a very skewed perception of what prison life is like. A lot of people who’ve committed the most morally despicable crimes end up getting beat to death or isolated in prison. The exception to this being criminals who have an absurd number of connections.

@SenpaimustNotice

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's way more brutal because it;s like theyre on some kind of prison colony planet in the future where they have to just fight for th rest of their lives ¬Justice Kennedy

Lowkey feel bad for Cynthia cause no one else there was even close to her age.

@resir9807

4 жыл бұрын

Lowkey feel good cuz it let her dominate the discussion.

@Lea-dq2uy

4 жыл бұрын

I disagreed with most of her opinions though

@MaximusTheChosenOne

4 жыл бұрын

Lea cause you’re a millennial liberal

@WetWorm

4 жыл бұрын

@@MaximusTheChosenOne Ok boomer

@MaximusTheChosenOne

4 жыл бұрын

WetWorm ok clown off by at least 30+ years

“Now you’re tripping" Cynthia -2019

@Solidude4

4 жыл бұрын

Timestamp someone please!

@nailaebinger5622

4 жыл бұрын

@@Solidude4 8:04 :)

@io2255

4 жыл бұрын

It's The REAL News she’s great

@Tlove4321

4 жыл бұрын

Lol he was trippin. He made some good points but the statement about raping rapists was silly 😂

@meeeee129

4 жыл бұрын

I staned

Why are they ignoring the fact that his 7 YEAR OLD sister was also killed? a psychopath like him killed his innocent sister without remorse and you think he will sit in jail and lament about what he has done? he is 18 and he knew what he was doing

@its.kaylin.8807

2 жыл бұрын

from the clues im getting i think he is a sociopath- he knows what he was doing, we knew it was wrong but he did it anyway... he wanted to die, he wanted people to feel his pain by dying. he knows.

@elbarto4069

Жыл бұрын

Wait didnnt they say this part was not true

"do we have the right to make that judgement" "I do" I love cynthia

@freshlypainted

2 жыл бұрын

QUEEN

@Random-sk6hm

2 жыл бұрын

She has a conflict of interest and would not be allowed to be on the jury

@hep8008

Жыл бұрын

@@Random-sk6hm try explaining to idiots who react from emotion first. Dont bother

@ashishkumarsharma1323

Жыл бұрын

​@@Random-sk6hm exactly!

@mrbroadwaydork

9 ай бұрын

@@Random-sk6hm doesn't mean we can't love her but okay

"He made a mistake, it was a poor decision, was he in a correct mindset?" Dude he just straight up shot 16 people

@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa790

4 жыл бұрын

It was one hell of a mistake.

@ricocarpenter2189

4 жыл бұрын

True mistakes can be corrected The damage can be undone

@jackseverino2608

4 жыл бұрын

Pumpkin Guts The damage can be undone? How is rehabilitating someone making up for the lives of many people?

@ricocarpenter2189

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackseverino2608 I meant that it wasn't mistake because the damage cant be undone

@CuminDragon

4 жыл бұрын

Pumpkin Guts ok this is extremely well said, did you get this from somewhere?

Yes, an 18 year olds frontal lobe isn’t developed yet. However, an 18 year old KNOWS murder is WRONG

@pizzaandpastaboi549

4 жыл бұрын

Frontal lobe is for long-term thinking like future consequences, etc, not moral standing. I though the girl in the video has explained it to you

@scarlettechloeasmr

4 жыл бұрын

pizza and pasta boi an 18 year is also very aware that someone who murders someone goes to prison. There’s literally no excuse here.

@savannahsmith1041

4 жыл бұрын

a 4 yr old does that was the worst argument ever

@MixedMartian28

4 жыл бұрын

I’m baffled that people think at 18 it’s possible to not understand the severity and likely consequences of murdering people, not only that, but walking into your school and shooting your classmates....like where is the confusion and misunderstanding?

@limeylemon1685

4 жыл бұрын

@@MixedMartian28 I agree.

“Gave him the chance to change.” Like he gave those 4 dead students a chance 🙄

@johnnyenglish1264

2 жыл бұрын

Two wrongs don't make a right

@Masterduel012

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyenglish1264 they do - * - = +

@crator3550

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyenglish1264 murder isn’t wrong because it’s murder. we determine whether murder is wrong or justified based on OTHER factors. murder isn’t wrong by itself.

@johnnyenglish1264

2 жыл бұрын

@@crator3550 Nope. There's no justification except for self defence. Death penalty has been abolished in many countries all over the world.

@mountainwhale8173

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyenglish1264 based^

In the UK we had a school shooting in 1996. Fifteen children aged 5, one aged 6 and their teacher died. We immediately banned guns and we've never had another since.

@patrycja3220

3 жыл бұрын

but having a gun is called a freedom in us smh

@stacyroth8836

3 жыл бұрын

That’s such a sad story. At least the UK banned the guns after it

@brrr7949

3 жыл бұрын

Pistols*

@Kailz

3 жыл бұрын

@Harley Mainwaring US citizens are way too ignorant - US citizen

@hasnainr4957

3 жыл бұрын

Dunablane massacre

Can't believe it started out with "He can still make a positive difference." Guys, he straight up shot 16 people killing 4 of them.

@jess6241

4 жыл бұрын

RIGHT

@cyn0303

4 жыл бұрын

IKR

@c.aa.6241

4 жыл бұрын

He made his impact in one of the worst ways. No coming back from that as in coming back to society. Like it’s crazy how it seem like they want him to be release and get another. Yes, it’s good to be kind, but come on a straight up spree killer, to get rehabilitated and back in society. La la lands minds in that room

@SpazzAttack78

4 жыл бұрын

@Yamel Camel Yeah but at the beginning they didn't know that

@jacytyngirl

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, he did. But over time people can regret things. Yes, what he did was wrong. Extremely. But prison can change people's views. He can share his story and prevent people from doing what he did. Do you not realize that everyone fucks up? His was HORRIBLE. Tragic. He can make a difference. Not in himself, but in others.

holy- this channel’s content escalated

@larrymoonlight2786

4 жыл бұрын

Wdym

@cattram9583

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but I love it

@zzbo2334

4 жыл бұрын

Starlynn in a good way right?

@alejandroduarte7538

4 жыл бұрын

Starlynn I liked your comment and then I disliked because you are at 711 likes

@tayla4366

4 жыл бұрын

damn straight . best youtube channel imo

7:20 I fail to believe that someone who could murder his family would have the same amount of empathy towards the death of his family as normal people...

@electraheart2476

3 жыл бұрын

exactly

@ethankoh6851

2 жыл бұрын

The only way I can defend it now is using "what if" scenarios like "he could have developed mental trauma from abusive parents" which is weak sauce.

I like how some of them assumed he would be in that cell feeling bad for what he did. They don’t know him, he could be sitting there being sorry he didn’t get more kills for all they know

They call murdering 4 and injuring 20 a “mistake” bruh

@Evili555

3 жыл бұрын

U mean murdering 7(4 of his classmates and mother, sister, and father) and injuring like another 12-16. And they are like “oh he’s the victim”

@ravenwaters9514

3 жыл бұрын

@@Evili555 the mother, father, and sister part was made up

@homosapien.a6364

3 жыл бұрын

You gotta know that there are a lot of people who don't own their own brains That why there are a lot of people who decided to go with isis because the grew up in a religious Islamic house

@Evili555

3 жыл бұрын

@@ravenwaters9514 doesn’t matter, the fact they still said he was a “victim” after given the circumstance of that is absurd

@gbgdjakoro

3 жыл бұрын

@Fraser M yes stereotyping an entire religion as terrorists is horrible and idk why anyone would do that, it's quite racist

me: life sentence so he can suffer the jury: life sentence because he can change me: am i evil????

@user-kj2fj8qr9l

4 жыл бұрын

No

@ian-fh1ry

4 жыл бұрын

No you’re not they are for thinking he deserves a future

@isytha5324

4 жыл бұрын

Its because they brought a bunch of millennial who think that anyone can change. Your opinion should have been the opinion of every life sentence person there. I don't know where you live but here in Canada everyone thinks that people can be rehabilitated from murder and rape and every other major crime.

@jameson4548

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@marion113

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I fell like life sentence is worse

“But he will suffer for the rest of his life” what about the families or the friends of the life’s he took that will suffer the rest of their life or his other family members knowing someone of their family killed their own with no remorse

@dumblonde8872

2 жыл бұрын

If someone has no remorse for murder, they are mentally ill and we can study them to prevent future tragedies

@jade4417

2 жыл бұрын

@@dumblonde8872 study them on death row if you want they still should be executed

@celetial3287

Жыл бұрын

they’re gonna suffer whether he dies or not

@0Clewi0

Жыл бұрын

If you're going by practical means the death penalties means a long process of appeals where the families of the victims will need to repeatedly relive the tragedy. Then after the death the response if their deaths help is split.

@athenastemple3804

Жыл бұрын

@@celetial3287 they’re gonna feel better though wouldnt they

i honestly hate the fact that there is a jury sometimes. people have so many different definitions of what is good and what is bad. Your fate truly depends on if that person that has to vote has been affected by something you did.

@diegos5968

3 жыл бұрын

No disrespect but what is a better idea ?

@miikey_lol

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure how it works in America but usually the prosecutors and defendant can choose to not have someone on the jury especially if they a personal experience that may impact their judgement. Juries are in most cases quite reasonable.

@heistgotfame-6952

2 жыл бұрын

@@miikey_lol yeah this happening in jury selection before the trial takes place

@Mica_T

2 жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Jurors only there to dictate whether an individual is guilty or not, not dictate what the punishment is? This essentially makes this a debate about morality rather than concrete evidence...

@tess-ticles

2 жыл бұрын

you arent allowed to be on jury if you have any personal connections to a case lol

I think death penalty is wrong but I hate how everyone was trying to justify the murderers actions and acting like he is the victim

@thereareghosts7100

4 жыл бұрын

I know right!!

@desireedollar

4 жыл бұрын

The the guy who killed those people at the age of eighteen has been in death row for 22 years, he might as well be put in prison for life

@limeylemon1685

4 жыл бұрын

Yes.. all of them acting like an underdeveloped frontal lobe of a teenager gives an excuse for him to murder multiple people..

@saigie3908

4 жыл бұрын

ItsMe Desiree Tbh if he has been on death row for 22 years he might as well die because we all live to die, if u think about it. And he has been thinking about his actions for a long time so he just might as well die. Especially since those lives were innocent ppl.

@constracted7331

4 жыл бұрын

When did they justify the murders exactly?

I would love to see this with a group of high schoolers, millennials, etc all in one group trying to come to a conclusion

@rilyn8934

4 жыл бұрын

middle schoolers would be funny as well

@eeeee1476

4 жыл бұрын

Rilyn Sawyer funny ?

@gabbyseeger4672

4 жыл бұрын

@@eeeee1476 funny ?

@eeeee1476

4 жыл бұрын

Gabby Seeger how would that be funny

@gabbyseeger4672

4 жыл бұрын

@@eeeee1476 idk I'm asking you

It’s crazy to me that some people think that a psychopathic serial killer is gonna sit in jail think about his actions

They were so mean to Cynthia. Wouldn’t let her talk and when she did talk they twisted her words and bullied her

@xxtriggazupxx2423

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why I hate millennials they always think they are right

@moelopez270

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxtriggazupxx2423 I hope my generation (Gen Z) don’t turn out to be even worse.

@xxtriggazupxx2423

3 жыл бұрын

@@moelopez270 same that’s my generation too, and tbh there’s a lot that remind me of millennials

@pottedplantae8085

3 жыл бұрын

@@moelopez270 Gen Z is even worse than Millenials.

@Crankey239

3 жыл бұрын

TBF, she dominated a lot of the conversation and a couple of her arguments were purely based on emotional value despite "focusing on only the facts."

suggestion: when someone is saying something as a fact, jubilee could reinforce that they are not facts

@cristianasilva6127

4 жыл бұрын

because some misinformation might spread

@Semi-AvgKay

4 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about something like popups that refute the misinformation?

@cristianasilva6127

4 жыл бұрын

@@Semi-AvgKay yes, something like that!

@MikaForTheLose

4 жыл бұрын

This is a great idea!

@breea07

4 жыл бұрын

Or people can not be sheep and do their own research.

Are they aware they live in the US? Prison isn’t a rehabilitation here lol

@farenhite4329

4 жыл бұрын

And they’re millennials, ie the people who are hit _most_ by the shitty American policies.

@noone9472

4 жыл бұрын

And in France we don’t have the death penalty and we don’t have school shooters THE GUNS ARE THE PROBLEM not video games not the penalty not social media for fuck’s sake How is it so hard to look at the evidence

@bombasticq1693

4 жыл бұрын

No One i mean y’all used to have death penalty

@polagrabowska

4 жыл бұрын

BombasticQ yeah but they don’t anymore... and that’s the major difference?

@loz5825

4 жыл бұрын

​@@noone9472 Illegal guns are the problem. In my country, the Netherlands, where guns are prohibited. Shooting incidents still happen occasionally. I have read about 4 shooting incidents in the current month alone *(17-11 in Den Bosch, 14-11 in Best, 15-11 A 24yo got apprehended by police at station Eindhoven because of a shooting in October, 09-11 A shooting in Hengelo, 13-11 Police apprehended a 48yo criminal and his 27yo son in Oss. They found guns and drugs. Which they sell obviously).* These are all done by thugs. Who will get their guns one way or another. And in the USA mental health problems is clearly a contributing factor as well. Because of their complicated healthcare system.

I feel the people who say "They will think about their actions for the rest of their life" have a very fairytale disney kiddy perspective on the human mind. It's extremely naive. Psychopaths and even your everyday bully don't go to bed regretting the pain they've put other people through. They literally think that what they do is justified and/or totally fine.

This criminal should get the death sentence. He didn't "make a mistake." He committed pre-mediated murder. That means he thought about his crime (killing his own classmates), planned it out, and made his decision to carry it out. What he did represents who he is, truly.

this episode should've been called: 11 millennials try to persuade 1 boomer

@user-qo7ul3wm1g

4 жыл бұрын

Quinn C we needed more age variety

@mariairivera-acevedo8459

4 жыл бұрын

Results...they don't

@maxwellcorbin4764

4 жыл бұрын

the funny thing is that she instead persuaded two of the life sentencers.

@jellybutter3123

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@areebmasoodi8932

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxwellcorbin4764 yeah I'm happy. I was afraid that everyone has become a softie but this video showed me otherwise.

"Death is easy. When you die, you don't have to live with what you did, but everyone else does. " Wow, I really enjoyed that Olivia's thought

@austinchandler3079

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, he has to live with what he's done, but he doesn't care...so why doesn't it matter? He's not going to feel remorse.

@pinkshinx

4 жыл бұрын

@@haleyl5003 I think we should murder those people to set an example for others who wanna do it again

@Nenk.

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Chandler yea they might not care for what theyve done but they do care where they wakeup how theyre treated and what their life has become , cuz most of the criminals come from being abused bullied and not treated right and from that oerspective its what they despise the most and since in prison no one is gonna talk sweet to you and treat you nice (especially in us) it means their whole life will be miserable

@alissonbate842

4 жыл бұрын

They still sit in Jail for years before they are executed , they live with what they did and the fact that they will pay for it not knowing when but knowing they will

@Nenk.

4 жыл бұрын

Alisson Bate also the fear of being put to death whenever snd not knowing exactly

why did they stop making these?? they were soooo interesting i was hoping for an entire series

It’s kind of strange watching this, living in a country where death penalty doesn’t exist.The fact that people even consider death penalty for me is weird.

@thelemurofmadagascar9183

Жыл бұрын

I also live in a country without death penalty, and yet I support death penalty whole heartedly.

@adem34hz58

9 ай бұрын

clearly something went wrong with you then@@thelemurofmadagascar9183

Dang, one lady said his brain wasn’t developed enough to understand consequences at 18. I knew killing people was bad at like, 4!

@kickasyberg7344

4 жыл бұрын

Understanding consequenses and knowing right from wrong is two different things. Everybody knows you shouldn't drink or text while driving. But what age group do you think does that the most? Everybody also knows that you should always wear a seatbelt. But what age group do you think does that the least? The consequenses for doing something or not doing something isn't considered the same way in teens and young adults as in adults.

@hannahwelch9908

4 жыл бұрын

Kicka Syberg Okay, but surely an 18 yr old knows that if he or she kills someone, prison is the most likely outcome.

@kickasyberg7344

4 жыл бұрын

@@hannahwelch9908 yes of course. But it's just not that simple. Think of it this way. Most people know that they need money to buy things. They know how much money they earn each month and how much money they need to pay their bills and buy groceries every month. But many people still find it hard to have enough money left at the end of the month. For teenagers and young adults this is especially hard, cause they lack the ability to actually imagine the consequences of spending all their money at the start of the month. Don't know if I can explain it any better. Try reading scientific papers about teenagers and the frontal lobe.

@IndiraJauza

4 жыл бұрын

this is the reason why I keep asking myself about nature vs nurture

@redvelvetcakeYUM

4 жыл бұрын

JAUZA I recommend watching “three identical strangers”. They were triplets who were purposely separated at birth for a scientific study on Nuture vs. Nature. They ended up finding eachother at 19 coincidentally. Highly recommend. Should be on Hulu, Amazon Prime.

poor cynthia... everyone was attacking her like she was the only one that wanted him dead... the woman was just tryna state an opinion lmaoo

@meganaxeliar

4 жыл бұрын

She’s based.

@mypeach6735

4 жыл бұрын

@@meganaxeliar You mean biased?

@meganaxeliar

4 жыл бұрын

Jasia Kontodgier Nope

@robcole1629

4 жыл бұрын

@@meganaxeliar What the heck does base mean then? lol I'm curious

@dipjay8590

4 жыл бұрын

you have a deep misunderstanding of what "being attacked means" if you thought she was being attacked.

Cynthia’s closing statements are absolutely spot on; growing up means leaving behind that youthful optimism and becoming more realistic. It may mean having to find that sweet spot between the good and the necessary evil to find justice. I didn’t like the arguments from the life sentence people because they seemed to be almost afraid of revealing any of their Jungian subconscious evils and they were portraying themselves as upstanding people. They made it seem like their entire morality was in question if they chose the death penalty. It’s the Machiavellian lesson that the good do nothing and those who are able to deal with the necessary ‘evils’ are the ones who get things done. I was for the death penalty from the start and I’m glad Cynthia has a good and developed head on her shoulders.

@elianderson3450

2 жыл бұрын

Rehabilitation is a very naive hope, but still if we’re wanting realism, it doesn’t change the fact that life sentence is cheaper

This is the problem with someone who understands mental health only partially. As a forensic psychologist, the defense of insanity doesn't always work, even if the mental health of a convict is questionable, the degree of the crime determines the punishment while noting the other clauses. The construct of the society is heavily based on punishment and very less on restorative justice. Restorative justice works on non-psychopathic personalities. The crime in question was impulsive and disorganized, there are high chances that the person will act on their impulses again under situations of relaxed supervision. Capital punishment is usually considered for intentional, multiple murders not only as a form of punishment but also as a message sent to the society to keep people in line of social construct. Of course then there is the question that who gave you the right to make that decision, murder for murder is hypocritical, etc. But by that logic, there should exist no law, no order and we should live like animals to fend for ourselves, gather our own food and truly live by 'survival of the fittest' argument. Delivering justice is not a mathematical formula where you say, 'Oh, personality disorder? Relaxed sentence.' The punishment is always delivered considering ALL the factors. I've been in prisons and isolation cells of the highest degree criminals, there is no empathy or remorse there, they don't mind the isolation and enjoy the food, water, electricity and occasional books and crossword, do these half baked mental health experts think that such criminals would have a harder time living with themselves in the prison and be ridden with guilt?

"See now you're trippin" -Cynthia

@onemillionpercent

4 жыл бұрын

period cynthia!

@__Cynthia

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t agree

@vgxezo7371

4 жыл бұрын

@@__Cynthia lol

@askmspforums1163

4 жыл бұрын

when was that?

@rachelie0706

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think they were tho. They were just saying that even if it was as a punishment, it would still be murder, which is important to consider.

THIS IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA OMG

@MabelRD08

4 жыл бұрын

I know!!! I just read the thumbnail and went :O Such a great channel♡Ayeeeee

@michyx2732

4 жыл бұрын

indeed

@chadjackson4786

4 жыл бұрын

"i'm for rehabilitation not death penalty...he could change". None of the millenials realize the dude appealed for 22 years before the sentence was carried out. This is typical in the justice system. Death penalty takes sooooo long to actually happen. Best of both worlds for them. He got 22 years rehab and then faced his penalty. Realistically, death penalty should be 1 appeal at most allowed, 1 year maximum. You lose? The sentence is carried out. Saves taxpayers money. Will there be innocents? Maybe. Wanna make an omelette you've gotta crack some eggs.

@Emma-vu3hx

4 жыл бұрын

Chad Jackson you’re a psychopath

@chadjackson4786

4 жыл бұрын

@@Emma-vu3hx nah. if you limit the death penalty to violent crimes that have ironclad cases against the perpetrators, you would have little to no innocent people caught up in the death penalty, especially with the opportunity for 1 appeal. If someone murders someone, on camera, they should not get an appeal. Straight to the chair. Dont waste 40 years of taxpayer dollars to house them for decades of appeals for a crime they clearly committed

old lady is wise. it would do them good to listen when she talks

@Katie-tc1fz

3 жыл бұрын

She isn't wise she's just old some of her points were just false

@Livontheg0

3 жыл бұрын

@@Katie-tc1fz agreed

@peepeetrain8755

3 жыл бұрын

she wasn't really. she used emotional trauma to influence her decision - instanlty dismissed in court. she was clearly wrong in her other arguements also.

@kon12211

2 жыл бұрын

She has built those arguments overtime and it was hard to change her mind while she's probably has thought in plenty of times that death sentence is the key

@Random-sk6hm

2 жыл бұрын

Age isn't always an indicator of being 'wise'. It can however be an indicator of being stuck in old fashioned views which are dangerous and oppress groups. Most young people have much more sense than most old people nowadays.

“See now you’re tripping” LMAO

@keepinitkawaii

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Amelia-yq3nl

2 жыл бұрын

48 years go??

@notgreatnotterrible48years63

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amelia-yq3nl it’s part of my username LMAO

Prison isn’t some nice place where people get rehabilitation, just saying.

@deadmeme1680

4 жыл бұрын

Unless you live in Germany or something

@robertwilliams1650

4 жыл бұрын

That’s why Alcatraz failed because it was that

@unlucky5442

4 жыл бұрын

Here in Norway is rehabilitation a big factor in the prison system. You want to help and rehabilitate the inmates so they won't commit new crimes when they are released. Apparently, 68% of inmates get re-arrested after release in America. Here in Norway, only 27% gets re-arrested. I think most countries in Europe have something similar to that percentage as well. Also, no countries in Europe (probably except Russia) have the death sentence. I think the highest sentence here in Norway is like 21 years, I feel like America give people live sentences for next to nothing. The U.S literally got 2 million people in prison.

@FKAthicccs

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It SHOULD be a place of rehabilitation

@matthewspears6932

4 жыл бұрын

Unluckyness I’ve been to Norway before, you’re prisons look more like a rehabilitation center from the pictures. The ones in America are disgusting.

I just got "ok boomer" energy from all of them towards Cynthia lmaoooo

@morenitomoreno1282

4 жыл бұрын

Marrcoke I empathize with what she went through but she'd just wrong

@yearoldvampire-ee2ff

4 жыл бұрын

Corleone ok boomer

@branklemsp2878

4 жыл бұрын

Morenito Moreno she’s just wrong Because....? Honestly this isn’t something you can be wrong or right on it’s a matter of opinion. And prison does NOT rehabilitate people. Especially not in America. Many times people come out worse and unable to enter back into society. Unfortunately some of them end up commuting suicide or they do another crime and get locked up again.

@aoibhin7120

4 жыл бұрын

@@branklemsp2878 What she said was wrong though and no one called her out on it. The only countries that still publically execute people are North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Somalia... Europe has completely abolished the death penalty and mass shootings really aren't a major problem over there.

@lunchhawx7596

4 жыл бұрын

@@aoibhin7120 The lower mass school shootings can be blamed on gun regulation laws.

I love Cynthia she pulled this together and straight REAL quick

man shooting and killing 7 people people: he can teach people and get better like what is he gonna teach them how to shoot a gun?

@dontruninthehalls3266

3 жыл бұрын

They’re talking about jail like its a fricken community centre... then the prefrontal cortex argument.oh please

" he could stilll benefit everyone in jail by leading a group or ... " bruh have you ever been in jail??

@dillonmartin1096

3 жыл бұрын

He wouldn't even go to jail.

@wardahs.2392

3 жыл бұрын

clearly not

@dillonmartin1096

3 жыл бұрын

People that do something as serious would go to prison and not jail.

@shubydoobydoo3212

3 жыл бұрын

if they learn he wasd a school shooter he would get beat up

@huged_beau

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m saying bruh

I’ve considered myself an anti-death penalty person for a while but honestly I would have voted death sentence

Alternate title Wise grandma preaches to 11 naive youth

@professorhacker9452

3 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@parkerverran9719

3 жыл бұрын

Cynthia said that if the past 4 people who shot up a school are put to death it will make the shooter stop and say is this really what I want to do, do I want to die. However these people are already in such a deteriorating state that they don’t care if they die or not.

@AndreaXV

3 жыл бұрын

She actually was driven by emotions, he would have been removed by the jury in a real trial.

@kitt3526

2 жыл бұрын

cynthia literally had wrong facts though

@NixonLuver

2 жыл бұрын

@@kitt3526 shut your mouth you naive child

Cynthia: "Other countries have less mass shootings because other countries have public executions" Europe: I'm about to end this woman's whole career

4 жыл бұрын

Right? The US is the only western country that still haves the death penalty I really don't understand them

@btxties3940

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah like we don't have death penalty and we also don't have mass shootings🤦🏼‍♀️ how about you start changing your gun laws then you'd realize what difference it makes

@Jem_Apple

4 жыл бұрын

We don’t have mass shootings because we aren’t a country full of trigger happy gun fuckers. Just get rid of the guns and u will notice a very steep drop in school shootings

@leenameer114

4 жыл бұрын

Well I’m African countries like Sudan they have guns illegal but they have execution for someone that killed another so American really isn’t the only world country with execution there are many more countries with execution and I understand yes America does have the worst mass shooting it should be more focused on what the guns do to the people and the mindset it sets it for the people

@carternelson7462

4 жыл бұрын

nicki15710 I first thought you were talking about America and I was like 😕but now I understand

Do they not realize that when your put to death it’s not “easy” you sit on death row for weeks, months or even years before you die. The feeling of knowing your death is coming is more terrifying then sitting in a cell for the rest of your life

@925263

4 жыл бұрын

Sitting in a cell for the rest of your life IS knowing death is coming, and far worse, since you know it'll hurt. (No one with a life sentence dies of old age.)

@pedroalexandre4165

4 жыл бұрын

i agree 100%

@YumiYumY

4 жыл бұрын

It's easy after it happens. He waits for what, 1-2 weeks ? After he's dead, it's over. If you believe he's gonna rot in hell that's something else, but not true.

@onemillionpercent

4 жыл бұрын

@@YumiYumY no. he could be waiting for months or years. death row is not always quick.

@laurenguo3888

4 жыл бұрын

aye agreed. Even the end of the video showed the kid who was 18 is still awaiting the execution and he’s like 40 now.

its crazy how they mentioned that the reason that crimes like this aren't common in countries outside of the U.S is because of public executions but failed to mention that an 18 year would have an extremely difficult time getting a gun let alone a rifle. Thats probably a major contributor to that as well lol.

@hanakoakamoto8919

Жыл бұрын

Let alone way safer countries without capital punishment :-D

@latch9781

Жыл бұрын

Especially given a lot of countries that do public executions are religious fundamentalist nations that also sentence people to death for 'crimes' like homosexuality

Cynthia was on another episode. I want to give her a hug. Her tears broke me.

Should have asked them “If one of those victims was a loved one of yours, would you still choose life sentence”

@Nicolebrooke18

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly I was waiting for one of them to say that. You can say you want someone to “rot” in prison. But they can one day get out, and jail is not a place for rehabilitation. Not even close. Most come out worse. & death is the scariest sentence a person can get. If they aren’t afraid of death, do you really think they are afraid of being locked up? Nothing can be worse than a knowing the expiration date of your last breath. The last time you see, hear, feel, live. That’s scary..

@eonstar

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nicolebrooke18 I disagree, I'd rather die than be tortured indefinitely. Torture is worse than death.

@Nicolebrooke18

4 жыл бұрын

eon star I guess we define torture differently

@Nicolebrooke18

4 жыл бұрын

Respect your opinion though!

@eonstar

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nicolebrooke18 I'm not defining prison as necessary torture. I was just trying to say that there are things worse than death

The countries with the lowest crime levels don’t have death penalties.

@sirlonnaldii9110

4 жыл бұрын

STMB FilipProds you also can’t compare crime rates among countries because they are reported differently

4 жыл бұрын

@@sirlonnaldii9110 yep, but the US is the only first world country with death penalty, the EU is really against it for example. And even if crime rates can vary, murder rates don't and the US also haves the highest among first world countries Edit: western* Singapur and Japan still have it. With the US they're the only advanced countries that havent got rid of it yet but the US murder rate being higher than any other developed country is true, I checked It up and It's like twice the other ones.

@totallyphy2517

4 жыл бұрын

@ false, US is not the only first-world country with the death penalty

@totallyphy2517

4 жыл бұрын

@ you forgot China, Japan, South Korea, and Singapore :)

@nmitchxll305

4 жыл бұрын

@@totallyphy2517 I think calling the US a first world country is a bit of a stretch

These "The Verdicts" are fire!! 🔥🔥I really wish you guys would continue!! 👏

The death penalty isn’t hypocrisy. You’re gonna give murderers the 𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘪𝘤𝘦 to get better? Most infuriating thing I’ve heard. They didn’t give their victims a 𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘪𝘤𝘦.

@janini1232

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think he should get a choice to get better. I dont care about rehabilitation. That dude is spending the rest of his life in prison, he will never be in society again. I think he should spend the life in prison, as a punishment, not to have the choice to get better.

@johnnyenglish1264

2 жыл бұрын

This is a purely emotional argument. Two wrongs don't make a right.

@cheetahhunt8711

2 жыл бұрын

“An eye for an eye will leave the world blind”

@user-lr6eq5fj8v

2 жыл бұрын

😐

@milliewharton7314

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking when they said that!! Why should he have another chance at life? His victims didn’t

almost immediately they went to “HE WAS DEPRESSED!” oof this is why mental health is so stigmatized as only the “crazies” have mental illnesses. but no hate i get why they went to it.

@jesscollins6283

4 жыл бұрын

your fingers, about to type, to your brain: how hypocritical do you want this comment to be? your brain: yEs

@abcdefg2174

4 жыл бұрын

Also depression, no matter how severe, does not excuse mass murder

@calinho7689

4 жыл бұрын

Abcdefg then I can say ‘no actions of a human being excuse murder’.

@re_i_gn

4 жыл бұрын

@@calinho7689 that's not the same thing because depression is not an "action" done by a human being, it's merely a factor that one might assume to be related to what led them to commit a murder.

@martyyymarttt

4 жыл бұрын

Not My Name exactly

"You don't know if there was abuse or neglect.." bruh he MURDERED people

@jardelk5238

4 жыл бұрын

@T Erhhh feel sorry for you tho u r strong af

@neetfreek9921

4 жыл бұрын

T Erhhh Cool, not everyone is as strong as you. Don’t fall into survivorship bias..

@onemillionpercent

4 жыл бұрын

@@neetfreek9921 okay agreed not everyone can be that strong, that doesn't excuse murder. he needed help but to take it out this way on innocent lives is never excusable. and i'm not saying you excused that necessarily, but just saying that not everyone can be that strong isn't applicable to the situation in the video tbh

@yaskikhun7889

4 жыл бұрын

@@onemillionpercent Very true.

@zeniashanze1882

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and he's getting a punishment for it. Doesn't mean they shouldn't consider his situation. They should. That's how a jury works.

“See that? Now your tripping”

They need to stop comparing this case to other cases. No two cases are the same

in a real case, cynthia would be excused from the jury because of her emotional attachment to gun violence

@anonymousvideostar2075

4 жыл бұрын

but she literally said that she asked the jury to not execute her son’s shooter i-

@sana-ns2ve

4 жыл бұрын

anonymousvideostar i’m aware, but in a court setting you are excused if you have anything that might indicated bias! doesn’t matter which way. they want you to be impartial

@Bobo-jy5mg

4 жыл бұрын

sana everyone here was biased... this was a political argument not what should be done according to the law. And according to the law, capital punishment is the result of this crime.

@KennadyKrea

4 жыл бұрын

This is youtube though did you forget? 🤣

@Mh-xe1zh

4 жыл бұрын

Kennady Krea she didn’t...that’s why her first sentence was “if this was a real case “

Why are they trying to make him a victim

@prodxarry

4 жыл бұрын

sky ward even if he was bullied, if you were bullied would you just decide to pull out the ak when it’s not legal to pull out to begin with.

@NoName-cc9cy

4 жыл бұрын

Millennials nowadays

@alyannadelacruz3354

4 жыл бұрын

they don't

@RuhiKarn

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! They cant justify it by saying he was young, were his actions young in any way when he tried to shoot them? no. Should he be treated like a young kid? no.

@kayladeak1010

4 жыл бұрын

@@NoName-cc9cy I feel that's very judgmental.

This series is amazing plz continue

“He could rehabilitate” there is no point to rehabilitating when you’re in prison (possibility solitary confinement because of something that major) There is no point in reforming somebody’s whose murdered somebody, they did it purposely and knowingly, they took multiple people away from their family and don’t deserve a chance for reform. He then murdered his own family and he must’ve known he did something wrong because he fled the scene, there is no chance for rehabilitation from somebody who murdered his classmates, fled the scene and killed his own family.

I remember I did these in school. They were always fun but we couldn't leave until we all agreed on a verdict.

@okok72277

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds even better then I'd just stay there until school ended

@cardiaccoder9622

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no way that would work in my school.

@michyx2732

4 жыл бұрын

dang

@TheEricaKatherine

4 жыл бұрын

So you didn’t have other classes 😂 ?

@breonawarren1507

4 жыл бұрын

We did something similar in one of crju classes but if we couldn’t get a unanimous verdict by the end of class the person was acquitted

While I feel for Synthias loss, her argument that not having public executions is the reason for mass shootings is absurd.

@krissywilliams1714

4 жыл бұрын

peacemaker2039 exactly

@Stella3014

4 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. We are a first world country and this isn’t the French Revolution

@jenn1545

4 жыл бұрын

She just utterly ignored Europe

@mikaylawaldorf4965

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. If someone is mentally unstable enough to make that decision public execution is NOT going to deter them

@aliceulanova9922

4 жыл бұрын

The fact is that people was not afraid when they saw public executions. It is horrible but it was some kind of entertainment

OMGGGG WHERE HAS THIS BEEN?!? Best series ever 👏👏

Bring this back! Loved this series so much

jubilee keeping it coming with that original contnent

@carlosdelarosa5994

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@neeldasgupta2441

4 жыл бұрын

This is based off the movie 12 angry men. Not that original

@mollybea1089

4 жыл бұрын

we already know buzzfeed is gonna tip this off

@zg208

4 жыл бұрын

Selly it’s still amazing content nobody on KZread have done this

@DavidCeeya

4 жыл бұрын

We love fun and fresh ideas!! Yes!

Cynthia added so much to the conversation and I'm glad she was a part of it, but honestly? she would never be on a real jury because of the tragedy with her son.

@larenzgarrett4936

3 жыл бұрын

how would they know she felt that way

@cressmoon340

3 жыл бұрын

@@larenzgarrett4936 They check so the jury won’t be biased on one side let’s say a student was on trial they wouldn’t put teachers in the jury because they work with kids and would be biased towards the

@cressmoon340

3 жыл бұрын

I meant them

@paavanilaldas3227

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, I thought she was really good at bringing the conversation back to the main focus

@paavanilaldas3227

3 жыл бұрын

@@localweeb2924 yeah, I just really liked her personality (despite the fact she brought up a personal situation) and wanted to say something nice lol

Make another! Best episode ever by far.

This is cool!!! Never saw these glad some new Jubilee popped up for mee! 😁

This is an inaccurate mock jury tho because they usually have a wide variety of people in jury cases not 11 millennials and 1 senior.

@derekbitun9621

4 жыл бұрын

goodguynow exactly!

@yappzyt3865

4 жыл бұрын

Derk B ok boomer

@syntext

4 жыл бұрын

Typical juries are "juries of your peers" and are specifically decided by the attorneys in the case - I don't have stats on age (other than that the older you are, the more likely you are to put someone on death row, which may be why you'd see more mixed age juries), but racial stats show that many juries don't include a single person of color on them at all, so the opposite of diverse, really. Ultimately it's all a game of chess being waged by the prosecution and the defense teams.

Verdict: Death penalty Erin: That's not vegan

@sarahsevak3467

4 жыл бұрын

2playlaughgrow AHAHAAHAHAHAHA

@ellielittle6681

4 жыл бұрын

spoilers!!!

@yeehawcowboydan

4 жыл бұрын

ahahag

@finefrenzied

4 жыл бұрын

Damn Erin making her way into everything😂

That woman talking about the death penalty as a deterrent is naive. Her following statements were factually incorrect

Honestly if I was there I would say death, my reason is that they said it was prematidaded so that means the person had time to think about this over over and still did so.

@carolynmiller3254

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody deserves to die tho

@jjjunebug8773

3 жыл бұрын

@@carolynmiller3254 Ok that's how you feel but I can say what I feel

I’m sorry, Cynthia, may your son rest in peace

I wonder if changing his ethnicity or mentioning his religion would have swayed their opinion of his mental health

@kaysummer5217

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Mentally health consideration is only reserved for young and old white people. Never in my life have I heard that argument being brought up for young ethnic killers. Like, they literally have a closer proximity to violence, sexual abuse, mental & physical abuse but no one ever look into their past to show empathy. They are just menace to society, mean, heartless killers, while the white kids are fragile beings that need mental help. 🤷🤦👎

@gaj30

4 жыл бұрын

such a good point!

@ohPAIN

4 жыл бұрын

no one said he was white lmao , you're the one thinking that

@justinlimitededition7457

4 жыл бұрын

There was no info provided about any of that so their decision was not swayed at all

@Freyal

4 жыл бұрын

Kati P. I mean if we are talking court cases, an insanity plea is VERY hard to prove, no matter the ethnicity. How many mass murderers in the past few years have you seen successfully plead insanity? Mental illness can be a leading factor into a crime, yes, however it is not an excuse for it.

i really like this setup...you guys should do more juries

I loved that comment of "if we can killer murderers, should we be able to rape rapists?" As morbid as that is, that question is absolutely hilarious and a very interesting way of putting it.

@supergirllively300

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agreed with this and, the comment where someone says, we shun murder only when the government isn’t the one doing it, I don’t agree with the death penalty only because so many people are wrongly accused, I do however see both sides

I love how the jury is spitting out untrue facts. Australia doesn’t have the death penalty and we barely have any mass shootings.. so idk where they got the idea that capital punishment is a deterrent

@snotterwt

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Like 80% of Europe doesn’t have death penalty and has a lot less mass shootings & other types of gun violence than the USA. The problem is the gun laws, not the death penalty

@miamerton142

4 жыл бұрын

She wasn’t just referring to shootings. She was talking about the crime rate, which does include gun violence, but not only that.

@5secondsofonedirection206

4 жыл бұрын

@@lolad1257 yeah i looked it up too and asia still largely has it. It just shows that socio-economic problems are the main reason for crime

@WolfvineGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Australia also has barely any people, compared to the over 330 million people in USA.

@5secondsofonedirection206

4 жыл бұрын

@@snotterwt yeah only belarus has it

I personally love how Jubilee includes people of all races and ages. It gives such a wide perspective on so many issues and makes for great videos.

@jennalex1150

4 жыл бұрын

Sophia Woods and also that they really listen to the comments and the suggestions

@honeyreally232

4 жыл бұрын

Well that's how juries work, they are randomly selected

@LifeOn18Wheels

4 жыл бұрын

@@honeyreally232 I'm mean...are they really though?

@honeyreally232

4 жыл бұрын

@@LifeOn18Wheels at least in Australia they are. It goes through the electoral roll :)

@xlllNIGHTMARElllx

4 жыл бұрын

@@honeyreally232 No the pool is random, but to be selected for the jury for that trial, they must first be acceptable to the Defence and the Plaintiff. They, in the end choose if they like the juror or not and that can end up skewing the backgrounds of the jury.

Do more of these. These are interesting

I just LOVE the content of this Channel, it really makes you think. Personally, in this case, i was pro Life Sentence, but then, thinking about prevenating with Death Sentence i thought "Better to be safe than sorry" so i switched.