Camelback Drill Press Gears 2: Cutting Gear Teeth on the First Gear

Camelback Drill Press Gears 2: Cutting Gear Teeth on the First Gear
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  • @Hoaxer51
    @Hoaxer51 Жыл бұрын

    Something satisfying about seeing a gear cutting video, I guess it’s just the precision of the whole part.

  • @Cavemannspace
    @Cavemannspace Жыл бұрын

    I can see runout in the arbor shaft, like watching a jumping rope. You might want to set that shaft between centers and check the runout in the center. Fine video as always!

  • @VoidedWarranty

    @VoidedWarranty

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought the same thing. Worth checking, but it might just be the spacers running out

  • @ellieprice363

    @ellieprice363

    Жыл бұрын

    This type of setup always runs out due to the accumulation of clearances. The long shaft has some runout. The cutter bore is slightly larger than the shaft. The cutter OD is not perfectly true with the bore, and the bushing the shaft runs in has some running clearance. All of these tolerances cause cutters on horizontal shafts to run slightly eccentric.

  • @brand-x7049

    @brand-x7049

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ellieprice363 Along with all the spacers that may not be square and parallel - I've seen perfectly straight arbors pulled into a bow from one bad spacer.

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ellieprice363 Ellie, thank you for taking the time to explain the process. Very patient of you! Every damn time Keith or a number of other machinists on KZread use a horizontal mill, there are the "experts" that have to be reminded of how things work in the real world.

  • @Cavemannspace

    @Cavemannspace

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ellieprice363 Thanks.

  • @UKDrew
    @UKDrew Жыл бұрын

    This was so cool... Would really love to see you machine a Herringbone gearset.

  • @ChristianHunt-qw2ki
    @ChristianHunt-qw2ki Жыл бұрын

    I think that your arbour is slightly out of true, hence perhaps the uneven cutting? You can see the out of true in the video. Try rolling it across a flat surface to check and you could apply the Keith Fenner straightening method?

  • @petegraham1458
    @petegraham1458 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work as usual, I enjoy following along it’s nice to see old equipment being kept in repair and in service still functional!

  • @artszabo1015

    @artszabo1015

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes Sir, very well spoken.

  • @timziegler9358
    @timziegler9358 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely wonderful job on making that gear! Best wishes.

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын

    Good morning Keith. I am having coffee watching this. Cheers ☕️, everyone watching. Very nice work, outstanding. Very interesting series. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.

  • @tomnorman5461
    @tomnorman5461 Жыл бұрын

    22:12 Your Arbor Press looks like it needs to be leveled Keith, the gear looks great...you the man!

  • @llapmsp
    @llapmsp Жыл бұрын

    Always like to see gear cutting. Thanks for sharing.

  • @StevenEverett7
    @StevenEverett7 Жыл бұрын

    I truly enjoyed watching you create these beautiful pieces of art.

  • @alt-w7130
    @alt-w7130 Жыл бұрын

    Love how you explain and show the procedures.

  • @jackpledger8118
    @jackpledger8118 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice work Keith.

  • @williamgamache2882
    @williamgamache2882 Жыл бұрын

    Thanx for the video ! Always a pleasure to learn from you. Please keep up the good work and I am looking forward to the next.

  • @GeorgeWMays
    @GeorgeWMays Жыл бұрын

    Super video. You have turned a Good Friday into a really good Friday. Thanks. It's appreciated.

  • @paulkinzer7661
    @paulkinzer7661 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video, showing the use of tools and tooling I can only wish I had!

  • @joewhitney4097
    @joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын

    Turned out great for the first gear. Thanks for sharing.

  • @walterplummer3808
    @walterplummer3808 Жыл бұрын

    Good morning Keith. Looking good. Thanks.

  • @mdlanor5414
    @mdlanor5414 Жыл бұрын

    As always, excellent machining job making this gear

  • @OldIronMachineWorks
    @OldIronMachineWorks Жыл бұрын

    Very nice Keith

  • @normesmonde5332
    @normesmonde5332 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Keith Monday’s experts abound

  • @TheAyrCaveShop
    @TheAyrCaveShop Жыл бұрын

    Good looking gear Keith....Enjoyed !

  • @paulcooper2897
    @paulcooper2897 Жыл бұрын

    Looks great! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks for sharing

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. FAN-tastic job.👍

  • @roylucas1027
    @roylucas1027 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting video. Thank you.

  • @Tammy-un3ql
    @Tammy-un3ql Жыл бұрын

    Nice work

  • @s.m.aggies7220
    @s.m.aggies7220 Жыл бұрын

    Great work of making a gear, fun to view and learn, a thank you..... :)

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @johnb6763
    @johnb6763 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @johngreatorex1234
    @johngreatorex1234 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Keith. I live in the UK so I will probably never be able to get to any of the meets you go to so it is unlikely that we will ever meet which I feel is a shame for me. I just want to say that I have been watching your channel for a long time now and I enjoy them very much but, also I have noticed how well you look at the moment. It’s good to see. I wish you well and I will continue to enjoy your posts. Best regards. John Greatorex. Derbyshire, England.

  • @eastcoastwatch672
    @eastcoastwatch672 Жыл бұрын

    As a former jet engine mechanic, like you, we didn’t reuse bolts or cap screws as they were already stressed and stretched from original torquing.

  • @johnkey1682
    @johnkey1682 Жыл бұрын

    Looks nice!

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 Жыл бұрын

    thanks Keit

  • @samhendrix378
    @samhendrix378 Жыл бұрын

    Good job

  • @donteeple6124
    @donteeple6124 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent job Keith. After watching the vid numerous times, my eye picks up what I believe..... is that its NOT the cutter itself that has the run out, but the cross bar instead that appears to show a 3/4 thou to 1.5 thou runout/oscillation.....its clearly visible in many of the longer full frame sequences......its just enough to show a rhythmic up and down oscillation of the bar. Excellent excellent job as usual despite this minor problem....... Don

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 Жыл бұрын

    KEITH, GREAT JOB AND GREAT VIDEO...LET'S GO TO WORK...

  • @TonyHammitt
    @TonyHammitt Жыл бұрын

    Thoughts going back and forth between "geez, that seems like overkill" and "somehow those gears got chewed up". I hope the future of the drill press is better than its past...

  • @melshea2276
    @melshea2276 Жыл бұрын

    Good Morning Georgia!😊

  • @SPDLTD
    @SPDLTD Жыл бұрын

    Tisk Tisk Keith, 10-32 is a #21 drill. Just giving you a hard time ☺ Great video as usual!

  • @grantnichols6765
    @grantnichols6765 Жыл бұрын

    Great content as always. I know video can cause optical illusions such as wheels moving the wrong direction, and color differences on a rotating object can make it look like it is wobbling even if it is not. That said it does look like your arbor is bent which would explain the excessive amount of runout you were experiencing from that cutter.

  • @chrisstephens6673

    @chrisstephens6673

    Жыл бұрын

    Not criticising him but moving everything closer to the body of the mill and taking out some spacers and shortening the arbour would make things stiffer.

  • @LeonardRoberts

    @LeonardRoberts

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Chris Stephens was thinking somewhat the same idea, seems there is a potential for an error with each small spacer, even if had larger spacers might reduce error possibilties and stiffen the arbor shaft.

  • @chrisstephens6673

    @chrisstephens6673

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LeonardRoberts I was thinking of fewer spacers and moving the end bearing and support arm inwards. Also move the dividing head over a T slot, providing there is room.

  • @VoidedWarranty

    @VoidedWarranty

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@chrisstephens6673on mine the whole shaft doesn't fit though the support bearing, only the end. Still for a little cutter like that I suspect it's fine. Sounded like it was cutting nice on the last pass.

  • @chrisstephens6673

    @chrisstephens6673

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VoidedWarranty the over arm is adjustable for length surely.

  • @wizrom3046
    @wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын

    At 9:27 when the lathe slows to a stop, it looks like the hub is very off centre compared to the lathe setup? Looks like about 40 thou off? Wasn't it important to get the gear concentric to the bolted hub?

  • @buckinthetree1233
    @buckinthetree1233 Жыл бұрын

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe too slow of feed rate can cause a cutter to sound non concentric because the cutting teeth don't maintain contact throughout the cut.

  • @tsirron
    @tsirron Жыл бұрын

    Good morning

  • @davidapp3730
    @davidapp3730 Жыл бұрын

    The clearance holes should have been all the way through the steel gear blank with the threaded section in the cast iron. It sounded like you only did the clearance deep enough for the counter bore. You could use an end mill bit to do the counterbore.

  • @greeceuranusputin
    @greeceuranusputin Жыл бұрын

    Should also oil the back side of the broach where it rubs the shims. I expect there's a lot of friction there.

  • @douglaslodge8580
    @douglaslodge8580 Жыл бұрын

    Nice job Keith.

  • @georgeescaped6035
    @georgeescaped6035 Жыл бұрын

    looks to me that the arbor that the cutter is on might be a little bent to make the cutter seem to be off center. looks like no problem with all the other work!!

  • @51ubetcha
    @51ubetcha Жыл бұрын

    Keith, how did the helical cut timing gear for that engine work out? Did it work ok on the engine rebuild?

  • @sleepib
    @sleepib Жыл бұрын

    37 is prime, so aside from that the next hole patterns you could use would be 74 or 111 holes.

  • @tacticalrabbit308
    @tacticalrabbit308 Жыл бұрын

    Question that heavy cut one side could that be so you have a relief cut for chips to clear out? And how do you cut internal splines to make a coupler for two shafts?

  • @WilliamTMusil
    @WilliamTMusil Жыл бұрын

    Hiya Keith

  • @SciPunk215
    @SciPunk215 Жыл бұрын

    You would think by now Keith would have every single size of every single drill bit... but there's always another.

  • @thepagan5432
    @thepagan5432 Жыл бұрын

    I was surprised to see you cutting the gear while locating on the outside diameter. The gear does not have to run concentric with the outside diameter, but with the bore. I spent 50 years working in the gear and gearbox industry. However if noise and vibration is not an issue then what has been made is adequate.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Жыл бұрын

    Nice!! 🙂

  • @terrywright3359
    @terrywright3359 Жыл бұрын

    I know you can always work around and get the depth you need but it looks like you arbor the bent on that gear cutter. May want to check it with a dial indicator if the runout bothers you.

  • @silasmarner7586

    @silasmarner7586

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't understand the 2nd half of the first sentence. and on the 2nd one, WHO may want to check it.. blah blah.

  • @Rorschach1024
    @Rorschach1024 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a timing component between the two gears? Does it matter where the teeth start?

  • @ruben_balea

    @ruben_balea

    Жыл бұрын

    I imagine these gears are from the feed mechanism, if so the worst that can happen is that the lever/wheel/crank used for manual feeding ends up resting at a slightly different angle...

  • @seancollins9745
    @seancollins9745 Жыл бұрын

    I need some splines cut on some transmission parts, this something you would be interested in ?

  • @MHolt3573
    @MHolt3573 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure if he has said before but once he is do e with cutting a new gear does it have to be heat treated.

  • @davesublette7447
    @davesublette7447 Жыл бұрын

    I noticed you used cutting oil to cut the gear teeth, but not when drilling and tapping the holes. How do you decide when to use oil? Also, do you recycle the cuttings from the various metals and machines? Thanks....

  • @stumccabe
    @stumccabe Жыл бұрын

    It looks like there's excessive runout on that arbor - is it straight?

  • @arimadx
    @arimadx11 ай бұрын

    Its funny how many people quote tom lipton. Hes an intelligent fella!

  • @KG-yn9qi
    @KG-yn9qi Жыл бұрын

    Losing weight👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 hope health stays well for you ! Yes we can tell!

  • @PhilG999
    @PhilG999 Жыл бұрын

    @16:20 or so. Is it just me but does that arbor look a little bent? I know with the spacers that might be an illusion... 🤔

  • @brianroberts4349
    @brianroberts4349 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like the arbor is bent?

  • @therealme613
    @therealme613 Жыл бұрын

    You ever gonna lag down that arbor press to the concrete?

  • @lukemeisenbach1964
    @lukemeisenbach1964 Жыл бұрын

    When in doubt, make it stout out of things you know about.

  • @bobbyvance6622
    @bobbyvance6622 Жыл бұрын

    The new broach area looked to be narrow. Was that acceptable?

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    Жыл бұрын

    He said in the video that the 3/8th key fit perfectly. What is your bitch?

  • @youmanskids

    @youmanskids

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paulcopeland9035 it looks off to me too. just an observation

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like the OD and ID are not concentric.

  • @glennstasse5698
    @glennstasse5698 Жыл бұрын

    Sure looks easy when Keith does it!

  • @stefanobertelli2650
    @stefanobertelli2650 Жыл бұрын

    You've got quite a bit of runout in the IDs of that assembly, isn't the gear supposed to be running true with respect to the id?

  • @flyingmaniac3827
    @flyingmaniac3827 Жыл бұрын

    lost a few pounds Keith look good on you man.

  • @johanea
    @johanea Жыл бұрын

    Hm, you seem to be more skinny... Good stuff and right way forward!

  • @isverque74
    @isverque749 ай бұрын

    01 volta 03 furos no crivo de 37 furos.

  • @MortimerKadaver
    @MortimerKadaver Жыл бұрын

    Lathe chuck - MADE IN POLAND ☺

  • @charlesmiles9115
    @charlesmiles9115 Жыл бұрын

    😛😛😛😛❤❤❤🦾🦾🦴👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @craigulatorOne
    @craigulatorOne Жыл бұрын

    hub

  • @grntitan1
    @grntitan1 Жыл бұрын

    #20 for a 10-32 in steel? I would have went with a #18.

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    Жыл бұрын

    Drill chart on my wall says #21, so where do you get #18???

  • @grntitan1

    @grntitan1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paulcopeland9035 I got it from the old Cleveland Twist Drill chart on my shop wall. For a 32 pitch #10 in cast iron and steel a #18 provides a 50% thread. That same thread in aluminum and brass, you’d use a #21 for a 75% thread.

  • @rusty1597

    @rusty1597

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grntitan1 50% Thread ??? Who would want that? Throw that chart in the junk.

  • @garybrenner6236
    @garybrenner6236 Жыл бұрын

    What happened to the Stoker Engine?

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    Жыл бұрын

    I knew you would ask about that!! Thank you, my week is complete!!

  • @paulterhaar4218
    @paulterhaar4218 Жыл бұрын

    The old part has al small key in it on both sides. Doesn't the new one need that also? EDIT: I was to quick with my comment. Awesome job Keith!

  • @1903A3shooter
    @1903A3shooter Жыл бұрын

    HOW did you ensure that the second key way was 180 from the first. ?Dave.

  • @ruben_balea

    @ruben_balea

    Жыл бұрын

    The keyways in the cast iron hub guided the broach for the slight cuts in the gear

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you even watch the video?

  • @premierd8988
    @premierd8988 Жыл бұрын

    The cutter is always true ... its the bent arbour that is the problem .....................

  • @premierd8988
    @premierd8988 Жыл бұрын

    The bore is a mile off Keith........ but 'good enough '............... 😉