‘Most expensive form of new power’ nice slight of speech… nuclear delivers the cheapest cost per kWh to consumers. Renewables: cheap to buy, produce very expensive electricity

@johnhoyle4401

2 ай бұрын

QAnon energy policy 101. From QAnon straight to the Liberal Party.

@user-pj5ub5cp9k

2 ай бұрын

What's a "slight of speech"? Do you have any evidence that nuclear power is so cheap?

@aaronaaron6569

2 ай бұрын

​@@johnhoyle4401👈DH101😊

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

@@user-pj5ub5cp9k he doesn't but if he says it often enough it becomes magically true

@polarbear7255

2 ай бұрын

@@user-pj5ub5cp9koh I don’t know… maybe from all the countries that do use it and their costs per kWh. Go look it up yourself. I don’t have to spoon feed you.

the reason reactors are so expensive and slow to build is because of excessive legislation. if the government wasn't so incompetent nuclear wouldn't be so expensive. there is numerous examples, Japan built a multi-reactor plant in 6 (correction 39) months for a fraction of a new fossil fuel plant.

@galacticnemesis366

2 ай бұрын

Isn’t it amazing that those who profess a desire to save the planet for some reason don’t wish our country to have cheaper more reliable emissions free nuclear energy? An energy technology that has already been proven to be the cheapest, most reliable, longest lasting, most cost effective, safest, smallest footprint, least environmental impacting, base load energy option around the world. Every country that has included nuclear has the cheapest most reliable energy anywhere in the world and they are thriving and prosperous. What’s behind the Greens denial of these facts? Why don’t they want humans to thrive? Perhaps the Greens believe it up to them to decide who suffers and how many people should be removed from this planet in order to maintain their funding. 😎👍👊🇦🇺

@decem_unosquattro9538

2 ай бұрын

Link to to a reactor that took six months to build?

@MJS-lk2ej

2 ай бұрын

@@decem_unosquattro9538 my bad, it was 39 months, (3 &1/4 years), which is why it was so cheap.

@decem_unosquattro9538

2 ай бұрын

@@MJS-lk2ej name of reactor?

@decem_unosquattro9538

2 ай бұрын

@@MJS-lk2ej Name of reactor and date it came online?

Labor are still living in a 1960s nuclear age.

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

The LNP have painted themselves into a corner with nuclear, at first they were hoping that SMRs would be the silver bullet but that fell into a heap as we predicted. So now they HAVE to go conventional which is far too slow to build and way too expensive as we have been saying all the time. And since the LNP started this farcical distraction solar has halved in price and so have batteries (as we kept telling you they would). Very funny.

@decem_unosquattro9538

2 ай бұрын

Most of the inhabitants of Fukushima AFAIK are not living around the area of their 1960s nuclear reactors. If you feel that way I suggest you move to Fukushima there are plenty of vacant homes that are fully furnished. The Japanese government say its safe to live there ! Enjoy ! 😉 It's extremely quiet and peaceful! There is tonnes of free food although the used by date is probably way past the used by date.

Small ones don't exist? American company has them in the size of 30ft cargo containers, submarines ect, what bs. Edit, the cargo style can power 300k homes, was designed specifically for disasters eg after hurricane Katrina

@footbru

2 ай бұрын

Can you please provide links to these american companies that are producing reactors in 30ft containers? (Which are produced in 20ft and 40ft, just BTW)

How about lifting the ban on coal-fired power stations. It's cheaper and very reliable. Hundreds of them are built by other nations, and we will be exporting coal to many of them for a very long time to come. It's insane for us not to build them here instead of wasting precious time and money on renewables or nuclear.

@johnhoyle4401

2 ай бұрын

Industry are voluntarily shutting them down, because they are not viable compared to renewables.

@HellHound.933

2 ай бұрын

​@@johnhoyle4401 Renewables are not Viable. Throwing $42,000 to $48,000 per turbine per Year in maintenance and you think thats viable. Where are you getting the Cranes. The Crane Operators. The Electrical Engineers. And if the Maintenance is NOT done they then have to be replaced. Toxic Crap to landfill and the cost of New Turbines. You Loons really have NO IDEA.

@user-zh5ri2fx8t

2 ай бұрын

@@johnhoyle4401 That's because there's no point trying to keep old ones going forever. They are well past their use-by date. Building new ones with modern technology is more efficient but still not competitive enough against the heavily subsidised renewables that can't replace baseload power. Enjoy the tide to hell sucker!

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

coal is already going broke competing against renewables, and if we go for fossils our exports will be hit with border adjustment tariffs

How long and how much have we already spent on renewables ?

@johnhoyle4401

2 ай бұрын

Why not ask QAnon, the source of all far right lies and conspiracies?

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

Not enough, do you want nuclear power in 2045? You better get a wriggle on. What do we do in the meantime?

@HellHound.933

2 ай бұрын

​@@rattusfinkus Use Coal and Gas. Simple

@oldnutta7611

2 ай бұрын

​@@rattusfinkus COAL and GAS

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

@@oldnutta7611 border adjustment tariffs, more expensive than renewables and global warming. It will never happen

Keith's right, what's the fear in lifting the ban if it's supposed to be so expensive vs renewables. Like he said, let the private sector do the math as to which is more viable.

@johnhoyle4401

2 ай бұрын

With the Liberal Party throwing tens of billions in subsidies to something that will be many billions over budget, and a decade late, you can easily guess what energy companies would want.

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

Overseas the private sector said no to nuclear, nuclear generation dropped last year

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

Overseas the private sector said no to nuclear, nuclear generation dropped last year

@HellHound.933

2 ай бұрын

​​​@@johnhoyle4401 Throwing $42,000 to $48,000 per turbine per Year in maintenance and you think thats viable. Where are you getting the Cranes. The Crane Operators. The Electrical Engineers. And if the Maintenance is NOT done they then have to be replaced. Toxic Crap to landfill and the cost of New Turbines. You Loons really have NO IDEA.

@jonathoncalabrese2035

2 ай бұрын

Wef doesn’t want nuclear

How much energy do you use to make one solar penal and how much energy do you get out of a solar penal.? GO NUCLEAR AND COAL VOTE ONE NATION.

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

The LNP have painted themselves into a corner with nuclear, at first they were hoping that SMRs would be the silver bullet but that fell into a heap as we predicted. So now they HAVE to go conventional which is far too slow to build and way too expensive as we have been saying all the time. And since the LNP started this farcical distraction solar has halved in price and so have batteries (as we kept telling you they would). Very funny.

When in doubt call your opposition "nutters" great debating may be labor needs a mass debate

Go "noook-leear", keep gas/oil/coal and tell Bowen "he's dreamin'"🤣🤣🤣

labor sure likes to shift the blame for their own mistakes.

Have a look at Finland’s brand new Nuclear power station. Clean energy.

REFERENDUM. Hundreds of Thousands of Australians spent decades fighting nuclear in this country, which is why 'no nuclear' is enshrined in law.

Cry little chickens, cry.

@polarbear7255

2 ай бұрын

Cry little protein, cry. Nuclear is coming princess, it is inevitable in Australia. Suck it up😂

OLKILUOTO 3 nuclear reactor cost $18 billion. Bare in mind that this price was when it would have been cheaper to build. The Bulgarian mafia was involved in its construction (allegedly) They blackmailed the welders. Were the legal cost incorporated into the governments costs? The debacle created a legal nightmare. Areva fought over liability of cost blowouts with Siemens. I see the cost blowout of the French built Flamanville 3 reactor apparently its estimated to be 5 times 5 x its initial estimated cost at a whopping 31 billion. They blame "optimism bias" as the culprit but I think it the tenderer knows its going to be mighty expensive they just want to win the contract. I dont know how taxpayers wont be paying for nuclear power. No way insurance companies will be on the hook to pay for nuclear disasters. AMERICA created the Price Anderson Act to absolve insurance companies of any responsibility lest their be a major nuclear disaster. The truth is still hidden to some extent on nuclear power. We're not a major nuclear power. We don't really have the experience of running fullscale nuclear reactors. It doesnt make sense to build small modular nuclear reactors. If you're going to build reactors you build it full size. The nuclear pundits keep saying nuclear is clean energy. Sure you can't see the emissions. Is it really clean? You need diesal to mine Uranium ore and that should be taken into consideration. Also the toxic processes of refining Uranium ore into uranium pellets should also be factored into the equation. Nothing is truelly green energy even solar and wind turbines. Solar panels are inefficient at producing electricity on a scale thats needed for cities. I've always been sceptical of pro nuclear pundits because they always lie. Our wisest choice would be to just build more coal plants. That would be sensible and rational.

Well just have a look at Germany at the moment closed nuclear and coal and someone blew up the gas now how is that looking thats Australia future

@rattusfinkus

2 ай бұрын

Germany is doing well now with massive renewables roll out, keep up, you're a few years behind

@polarbear7255

2 ай бұрын

@@rattusfinkus😂 lies and misinformation again RF? Germany: shuts down nuclear, now reopens coal stations and burning wood. Has the highest emissions and highest consumer electricity prices in Europe. Classic own goal.

Even if the Nuclear option becomes economicly viable, it's at the very least a decade away from being available to generate power for Aussies. Menawhile, hard working aussies can't afford to pay their power bills. How about we talk about how to generate affordable, reliable base load power now when it needed.

Still cheaper than Snowy 2.

The LNP have painted themselves into a corner with nuclear, at first they were hoping that SMRs would be the silver bullet but that fell into a heap as we predicted. So now they HAVE to go conventional which is far too slow to build and way too expensive as we have been saying all the time. And since the LNP started this farcical distraction solar has halved in price and so have batteries (as we kept telling you they would). Very funny.

@polarbear7255

2 ай бұрын

Except we now have no choice. Renewables have utterly failed to replace coal on the grid or provide any meaningful emissions reduction. Nuclear is cheaper for consumers and has a median build time of only 6.2 years. Do you ever get sick of being so wrong? RF the renewables zealot: blind ideological faith in a failed technology.

Lol.. I live in the Hunter valley most months and no one I know supports a nuclear reactor anywhere in Australia.......☢️

@Father-Grandfather

2 ай бұрын

That's because you never leave the basement to find out dunnyboy 😂

@Prognosis__

2 ай бұрын

Too late, Labor is done next election…we might be able to get adults back in to Canberra

@HellHound.933

2 ай бұрын

I doubt if anyone talks to you. 😆

@polarbear7255

2 ай бұрын

That’s funny, most people i speak to support nuclear energy in Australia. You need to get out more

“Let the private sector along with other bodies do the maths on this.” Yeah right, Wola. Why listen to the science of the costing and leave it to a market that wants profit? I know, lets ask NuScale Power what "the maths on this" are? :I