Caller is Christian, Son is Atheist, & Look at the Trees | Dianna - MN | Atheist Experience 21.46

The Atheist Experience episode 21.46 for November 26, 2017, with Tracie Harris and Jen Peeples.
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  • @islandork
    @islandork2 жыл бұрын

    This is the sound of a woman who has just awkward giggled out of every corner she’s ever been backed into, and everyone in her life being too nice to set her straight

  • @yourfinalhiringagency3890

    @yourfinalhiringagency3890

    Жыл бұрын

    The majority of people in her life are drinking the same kool-aid 😢she’s been brainwashed

  • @AlexeiX1

    @AlexeiX1

    6 ай бұрын

    @@yourfinalhiringagency3890 thats the weird thing man, its not, she says her husband and son are atheists. She probably grew up terminally religious though.

  • @zsasizen

    @zsasizen

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AlexeiX1she’s a malignant narcissist. No one knows where they come from or how to get rid of them. Some kind of parasites

  • @lenasr5792

    @lenasr5792

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AlexeiX1 she’s like my mother. She married my dad who is an atheist and my brother and I are both atheists. My mother no longer goes to church nor reads the Bible, but she sees being a Christian as her identity and clings to “the faith”. If you ever challenge her views, she has no idea what to say and just awkwardly exits the conversation or shuts down. And she doesn’t hang out with Christians.

  • @leonsantiago5162
    @leonsantiago51624 жыл бұрын

    I think the hosts' exercise of patience is a miracle.

  • @muveemanone2067

    @muveemanone2067

    4 жыл бұрын

    PHAX

  • @5TailFox

    @5TailFox

    4 жыл бұрын

    Word.

  • @MoneyShot127

    @MoneyShot127

    4 жыл бұрын

    Strongly agree!

  • @hornets06

    @hornets06

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just a few miracles away from sainthood

  • @frank_calvert

    @frank_calvert

    4 жыл бұрын

    >miracle wait a minute...

  • @drfitnessnow
    @drfitnessnow3 жыл бұрын

    “You could never convince me...” That’s the most honest thing she said.

  • @paulsymons1184
    @paulsymons11843 жыл бұрын

    Dianna spoke for an hour without making a single rational, cogent, coherent statement. Absolutely mindblowing

  • @jerrylanglois7892

    @jerrylanglois7892

    2 жыл бұрын

    Par for the course ?

  • @fundirams3240

    @fundirams3240

    Жыл бұрын

    She did say “you could never convince me.” Only coherent statement she made

  • @alaric1170
    @alaric11704 жыл бұрын

    I miss Tracie as a host. She has such clarity of thought and patience.

  • @LoganAddisMusic

    @LoganAddisMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where did she go?

  • @RockMonster1000

    @RockMonster1000

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@LoganAddisMusic There was some drama, and I thought I heard that some people left out of solidarity. Choices were made. Probably still lives there.

  • @LoganAddisMusic

    @LoganAddisMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RockMonster1000 thanks!

  • @tima5033

    @tima5033

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RockMonster1000 solidarity to what?

  • @mikhem1962

    @mikhem1962

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tim A , I believe it was over a disagreement about transgenderism. Could be wrong but it was something like that.

  • @JJGuccione
    @JJGuccione5 жыл бұрын

    “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.” - Robert Pirsig

  • @abc-yr8nf

    @abc-yr8nf

    4 жыл бұрын

    Such a true simple statement

  • @cjalisyas

    @cjalisyas

    4 жыл бұрын

    ADULTS WHO BELIEVE IN IMAGINARY BEINGS ARE STUPID. Good people do good things. Bad people do bad things. But religion can make good people do bad things.

  • @jamtaco2667

    @jamtaco2667

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Well he gave us free will"

  • @caneanukunuku2906

    @caneanukunuku2906

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow. What a quote... Coming from a man that believes we evolved from ape... Tell me then sir, how's the family hanging? You know, seeing that we come from ape. Oh the enemy has been having a field day with him and everybody else who thinks that quote is swavue, beautifully put. Wisdom of this world comes to nothing, scholars too. Just when we thought we all knew the mystery to life... And then nothing.

  • @caneanukunuku2906

    @caneanukunuku2906

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Brad Smith agree!

  • @satchelraidincoming636
    @satchelraidincoming6363 жыл бұрын

    This woman straight up admitted she just decides what is real based on feelings.

  • @zebraimage

    @zebraimage

    Жыл бұрын

    And they literally don't understand why it's wrong. They have zero idea what the problem is. Fascinating!

  • @petitesayo4542

    @petitesayo4542

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, feelings allow you to understand what is good for YOURSELF. Your needs, what you want, what you think, etc. The problem is that they completely mix up what is real for them, a.k.a "what they need", with what is actually real OUTSIDE OF THEM. It's insane, really. Just because you feel love does not mean that it's some kind of entity outside of you. It just means that you feel love, that's all. Just because you want a purpose does not mean that some entity gave one to you. It just means that you feel the need to have one.

  • @cassievining340

    @cassievining340

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SimonLloydGuitar gross. Try to join this millennia.

  • @Perri-Winkle

    @Perri-Winkle

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@SimonLloydGuitarYuck.

  • @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch

    @Dr.HowieFeltersnatch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zebraimage They understand. They are just dishonest people. You will never get them to agree with reality because they are liars.

  • @benderisgreat5059
    @benderisgreat50594 жыл бұрын

    Somewhere in the world, this lady’s son was facepalming so hard.

  • @totokekedile

    @totokekedile

    2 жыл бұрын

    I actually love this video. I come back to it from time to time. It's just so classic her.

  • @Meansnare

    @Meansnare

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@totokekedile please tell me you educated the pastor.

  • @johnsimpson7607

    @johnsimpson7607

    6 ай бұрын

    @@totokekediledoes she still believe in god? How is your relationship with her now?

  • @totokekedile

    @totokekedile

    6 ай бұрын

    @@johnsimpson7607 More than ever. She married a conservative, so she's been getting steadily more extreme.

  • @RaulPerez-jj5jj

    @RaulPerez-jj5jj

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@totokekedile oh wow. I was hoping that she would have started to delve deeper in critical thinking regarding these topics. But you never know. There are many ppl who finally get there. Regardless of any of that, I hope religion hasn't divided you and your family. All the best mate.

  • @mnguardianfan7128
    @mnguardianfan71285 жыл бұрын

    People are ripping on this lady, but what I hear is a mother deliberately putting herself in an uncomfortable position calling this show which challenges her believes, because she loves her son. She handled this call with honesty and humor. This sounds to me like a great learning experience for her and her son. I give her great kudos for putting herself out there like this.

  • @AlexPBenton

    @AlexPBenton

    5 жыл бұрын

    MNTribeFan I agree, but she’s still completely illogical

  • @mwnDK1402

    @mwnDK1402

    5 жыл бұрын

    I forgot about that because of the frustration she made me feel. Thank you.

  • @007speedcuber

    @007speedcuber

    5 жыл бұрын

    MNTribeFan Yeah definitely. I've listened to so many callers that just come on and go "scripture Jesus god did it bible Pascal's wager atheist rekt" and no one learns anything. I think the lady is an idiot but she's a well meaning idiot who wants to understand another perspective and that's respectable

  • @Emanoia

    @Emanoia

    5 жыл бұрын

    iap

  • @kosys5338

    @kosys5338

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yea, and why is her position difficult? Maybe because she has no good explanations or evidence for the reasoning of her beliefs? Atheists don't find their position difficult. I could debate a pastor and not feel like I was in a difficult position, because I could back up what I say with reasoning, logic and evidence. I too give her credit for calling in and putting her ignorance on display for all to see. Faith is a realm of ignorance, there is no truth or wisdom to be found in such a place only ignorance. The path to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant, and the path to Atheist is littered with bibles. Ignorance is not just what you don't know, it is also what you won't know. Her problem isn't that she doesn't know, it's because she won't know. That's why her argument sounds foolish.

  • @alchemicalheathen
    @alchemicalheathen5 жыл бұрын

    This is, hands down, one of the saddest calls. This lady seems nice and well-meaning, but her mind has been so thoroughly poisoned. She can't stay on a subject, answer a question, follow a line of reasoning, etc...

  • @ProfessorBrandt

    @ProfessorBrandt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Huxxy no it’s definitely brainwashing and poisoning. If someone grows up being told, and believing, that every unexplainable thing is attributed to god, versus someone that grew up never even hearing the term “god” (which is practically impossible nowadays) , when both of those people experience something unexplainable, the religious person will automatically gravitate towards god, and the person who has never even heard the term god will not assume some higher power/creator is the cause. the brainwashed will ALWAYS go back to their belief and faith to explain things, because that’s all they know and all they were taught. Much the same if you teach a monkey from when it’s an infant, that a certain sign means it’s food time, and then another monkey that never is taught this, when the sign is shown, the one monkey that was taught will think it’s food time and become excited (even if you don’t feed it), and the other will simply wait for it’s food, disregarding the sign.

  • @surg23

    @surg23

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was poisoned, but it was never a fully functioning brain to begin with.

  • @wernerstapela4616

    @wernerstapela4616

    4 жыл бұрын

    I take real exception to the comments here implying lack of intellect for Christians (or any other religious adherent). That indicates a lack of understanding of the reasons for faith. There is plenty of statistical evidence that the bulk of adherents to a belief were born into it and have grown up in an environment supporting it. So, largely accident of birth and environment.

  • @alchemicalheathen

    @alchemicalheathen

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wernerstapela4616 I tend to agree with you. And that was the spirit (so to speak) of my original post. Religious education/indoctrination can poison an otherwise intelligent person, leading them to change the subject without realizing it, polluting a conversation with red herrings, non-sequiturs, and fallacies.

  • @johniec5282

    @johniec5282

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wernerstapela4616 . I agree, religious beliefs aren't rational to begin with. Small children tend to trust whatever their parents tell them. If their parents tell them there is a god when they are very young ( and don't know better) and later in their lives the community where they grow up reinforce such beliefs, chances are that they will keep that way of thinking through their adult life.

  • @sanemalk9957
    @sanemalk9957 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like Jen's remark near the end about drug addiction was a spot on analogy for this woman. She's hooked on the good feelings she gets from her belief, doesn't put any more thought into it because she's hooked and doesn't see the harm it may cause. Ultimately, she doesn't care about what's true, she just wants her fix. This woman reminds me of those "this is your brain on drugs" commercials. Sad.

  • @Leith_Crowther
    @Leith_Crowther3 жыл бұрын

    “God is everywhere and nowhere.” Well, you’re half-right.

  • @youneedhelp6902

    @youneedhelp6902

    2 жыл бұрын

    Half wrong

  • @grahamblack1961
    @grahamblack19615 жыл бұрын

    This is like watching a game of chess where one player believes they can move their pieces according to how they feel.

  • @asimplewizard

    @asimplewizard

    4 жыл бұрын

    *Slides a pawn 5 spaces diagonally* Your move, yugi boy

  • @flatearth9140

    @flatearth9140

    4 жыл бұрын

    THEY ARE CALLED SNOWFLAKES !! LOL..

  • @ericscaillet2232

    @ericscaillet2232

    4 жыл бұрын

    Graham!!!....not too shabby my bud😉

  • @flatearth9140

    @flatearth9140

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ericscaillet2232 THANK YOU! WE HAVE MEETINGS AND EVERYTHING !!!

  • @johniec5282

    @johniec5282

    4 жыл бұрын

    You could never check mate such a dishonest player.

  • @hannahbuckley708
    @hannahbuckley7084 жыл бұрын

    Tracie is so underrated. She went into BEAST MODE during this call, but didn't get rude or disrespectful. A fantastic discussion

  • @Cyb3riano

    @Cyb3riano

    3 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more. And she's more beautiful every year.

  • @ericmadeoftin8206

    @ericmadeoftin8206

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is the antithesis debate where logic wins out.

  • @ravenvalentine4919

    @ravenvalentine4919

    2 жыл бұрын

    beast mode against what ?? this woman on the call is unarmed with any brain switches

  • @Lisa-rl3ob

    @Lisa-rl3ob

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ravenvalentine4919 😂😂😂

  • @falcoperegrinus82
    @falcoperegrinus823 жыл бұрын

    "If you do believe in God... what harm does it do?" "I don't know, ask ISIS" 💀

  • @jerrylanglois7892

    @jerrylanglois7892

    2 жыл бұрын

    or the taliban ?

  • @shantheman9922
    @shantheman99222 жыл бұрын

    This is a perfect example of why matt's slight aggression and unwillingness to change topics(within reason) is necessary. Every time this caller was presented with a logical argument and asked a direct question, she diverted to something irrelevant, and thus never made any progress. The hosts were incredibly patient, and did a great job of trying to understand the caller and present their side, but instead of nailing down a point they're making, they followed the callers train of thought and never got anywhere.

  • @MstrLAM
    @MstrLAM5 жыл бұрын

    Tracie Harris is incredible. Its a pleasure to hear someone demonstrate such a firm grasp of reason.

  • @Kuswasinnam

    @Kuswasinnam

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Bryson Tiller. I usually hate it when people say "please explain." But please, can you expand your point? Where is the confirmation bias and strawmanning? I thought Dianne had enough space to clarify statements and respond to challenges.

  • @Tyberius1

    @Tyberius1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not only that but I am also very impressed that she had the patience to deal with this caller for over an hour.

  • @JerryInGeorgia

    @JerryInGeorgia

    5 жыл бұрын

    She is very beautiful.

  • @jaymiddleton1782

    @jaymiddleton1782

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kjass Aylo his point (which he explains in another thread) is that the host is using logic, and the caller bases her beliefs on emotions. Because the host deals with the argument logically, rather than emotionally, he thinks it is a straw man because she’s not engaging the argument “on its own terms.” As usual, there is no argument here. Only more apologetics and ad hoc denials.

  • @victorruiz7359

    @victorruiz7359

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bryson Tiller they deify what crushes them and find reason to hope in what impoverishes them.

  • @ArthurKVerusan
    @ArthurKVerusan5 жыл бұрын

    Around 18 minutes she says "I just don't think I could have come up with that on my own". And THAT is something I hate about religion. It minimizes you. It tells you you're this awful horrible sinful being and you're nothing without the Creator. She doesn't remember a time in her life when God wasn't present, aka, she has been indoctrinated since she was a child. This woman is a perfect example of what some atheists mean when they say that religion is child abuse.

  • @JamesRichardWiley

    @JamesRichardWiley

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know this is true but my religion won't let me accept it. I am a divided self.

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    repent or burn in hell forever!!!!!!!!

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JamesRichardWiley Atheists need pycholgical HELP because they are going to HELL chose to do so who in tere right mind would want to be turtured forever in HELL REPENT!!!!!!!

  • @CosmicEpiphany

    @CosmicEpiphany

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hill Billy Are you trolling?

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CosmicEpiphany Atheists need pycholgical HELP because they are going to HELL chose to do so who in tere right mind would want to be turtured forever in HELL REPENT!!!!!!!

  • @ddpyketojourney3937
    @ddpyketojourney39372 жыл бұрын

    I zoned out about 15 minutes in and 10 minutes later I was like, holy shit this is still going, and there’s 40 more minutes of her circular logic. Jesus Christ!!!

  • @MrOpenConversations
    @MrOpenConversations3 жыл бұрын

    "He's in the air, he's everywhere, he's watching us" Sounds like a very capable perve with too much time on his hands

  • @tangocash28

    @tangocash28

    2 жыл бұрын

    And he wants 10% of your money

  • @jkhall9665
    @jkhall96655 жыл бұрын

    At least her son escaped her insanity. Jen and Tracie two of my favorite sane woman. Keep up the good fight. Not always said but you are appreciated.

  • @JamesRichardWiley

    @JamesRichardWiley

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes I wonder if some people are born with a god gene and no amount of evidence to the contrary will make any difference.

  • @russwilson2305

    @russwilson2305

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JamesRichardWiley -I think so. Between nature/nurture -some people are capable of believing things that don't sound true, some cannot. The nurture part was tried on me. It didn't take. Even at 8 years old, I had major reservations. Many kids around me never questioned it, as far as I could tell. No idea why.

  • @hoodatheist5549

    @hoodatheist5549

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@russwilson2305 i swear you are right, my skeptical thinking on god started at 9yrs old nothing made since, like how far heaven was, where is heaven located, what the hell do you do in heaven all day, that was small questions i had that no one couldn't answer. Lol

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    repent or burn in hell forever!!!!!!!!

  • @hoodatheist5549

    @hoodatheist5549

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hillbilly2065 lol.

  • @jeffperkins9837
    @jeffperkins98374 жыл бұрын

    "so anything I like is from god, anything I don't is evil. And the bits of the bible I agree with are true, but the other bits are just stories." Gotcha.

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

  • @TheFirstAtom

    @TheFirstAtom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 What about the Muslim that seeks God with everything they have, yet still come to the conclusion that Jesus was just a lesser prophet than Muhammad? People seek god wholeheartedly, just to come to different conclusions of who this “god” is. Why do you think there are so many religions?

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFirstAtom First of all, Islam did not exist during the time of the Old or New Testaments, so no specific mention was made in the Bible about it. However, that being said, there were lots of false religions mentioned in the Bible, and the Ten Commandments - particularly the first, Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” He was to be the only God worshiped! Deuteronomy 18:18-22 "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him. But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’- when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him." This is how you can recognize the Spirit Of God: every spirit that acknowledges [not only intellectually because we are told that the demons know and tremble at the fact: James 2:19] but publically confesses], that Jesus Christ has come [understood: as God in flesh - John 1:14] And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 1 John 4:2-3 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already." looking at what Islam and other religions believe regarding Jesus. If they reject Jesus as God come in the flesh, the Bible gives them no validity. The Bible says that there will be false teachers who come and mix the truth with lies and that we should watch out for these types of people. God asks in the Bible why people would worship things of nature ( such as trees) why they used part of it for fire and made a image out of the other half and then proceeded to worship the image that they made themselves. The Bible says that the laws given were made so that we could see that we are incapable of following all of the laws and that we are all in need of a Savior. I don't think the Bible mentions any other religions by name, just addresses the ideas behind the other religions. The Bible does address Baal and Beelzebub. In the plagues that God sends to the Egyptian people to get Pharoh to let the Israelites go, he specifically has curses that attack the man made deities of the Egyptians. God is always wanting to show people that He is the One true God and wanting people to turn from their ways of bowing down before false gods. The Bible tells us that the one and only way to salvation is to trust Jesus Christ alone to save us.

  • @xxxod

    @xxxod

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 just shut up and accept that you're wrong.

  • @SNORKYMEDIA

    @SNORKYMEDIA

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 what about the religions that came before yours....

  • @lxoxrxexnx
    @lxoxrxexnx3 жыл бұрын

    I love Tracie's way of logical thinking, and her patient determination

  • @basildraws
    @basildraws3 жыл бұрын

    “This will sound crazy but...” [a] “You’ll think this is crazy but...” [b] “Call me crazy but...” [c] Yeah, ok, we all agree, your god belief is crazy. You win.

  • @marlinperry4250
    @marlinperry42505 жыл бұрын

    This is literally the best video on the internet. I was just like this lady 3 years ago. People who don't run away from conversations like this, usually end up like me. FREE

  • @ladylemon202

    @ladylemon202

    4 жыл бұрын

    The fact that you describe yourself as free now, really shows how damaging religion can be. I’m glad you’re happier now

  • @jamtaco2667

    @jamtaco2667

    4 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the dark side! We don't know everything - and that's ok! *peers into the universe* But we're still looking! I hope you too enjoy this journey through the cosmos without the brain chains!

  • @lisahenry20

    @lisahenry20

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jamtaco2667 I don't know why it's called the dark side. We have cookies! Cookies aren't dark or scary!

  • @jamtaco2667

    @jamtaco2667

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lisahenry20 I've had burnt cookies... hm... The squirrels and raccoons in my neighborhood still enjoy them though ;)

  • @lexcent6271

    @lexcent6271

    4 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations! Feels good to be free and enjoy life to the fullest.

  • @infiniteflame2374
    @infiniteflame23745 жыл бұрын

    Knowledge is a gift from God? I thought it was a curse from God for scrumping his apples in Genesis?

  • @scotspellcloud7828

    @scotspellcloud7828

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol dat logic and then they wonder why I am atheist

  • @tolowreading6807

    @tolowreading6807

    5 жыл бұрын

    Scrumping ? I’ve never heard that before, but I love it 😊👍🏼

  • @Meadhands

    @Meadhands

    5 жыл бұрын

    @castroy64 Maybe watch the last 10 minutes of this video?

  • @Xemwood

    @Xemwood

    5 жыл бұрын

    @castroy64 It’s not about god. Its about his simple minded and usually unpleasant followers not being content with living in a medieval mindset themselves, but insisting everyone else conform to their pointless and backward set of rules too. And any ‘whining’ involved is invariably that of theists when they don’t get their way.

  • @tylernoyes2051

    @tylernoyes2051

    5 жыл бұрын

    Would make a better story if Adam and Eve started crumping for apples.

  • @dougbelford4565
    @dougbelford4565 Жыл бұрын

    It’s always amazing to me that no matter how normal these people sound at first, when you start to drill down into their actual belief system and how they believe God works it always turns out ridiculously crazy

  • @brianleslie7388
    @brianleslie73884 жыл бұрын

    The caller sounds to be a lovely person that has been so thoroughly indoctrinated that she can't find logic or reason, despite it being laid out as a feast before her. She deserves my pity, but not my scorn or hatred. The esteemed hosts are patient and caring in their points... kudos!

  • @diogoappraisal
    @diogoappraisal4 жыл бұрын

    This lady is a prime example of the damage religion does to a persons brain

  • @malfaro3l
    @malfaro3l4 жыл бұрын

    God's love is so huge, he's willing to do whatever it takes to show you that love, like torturing every last one of us for all of eternity.

  • @brucebaker810

    @brucebaker810

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow. That's Really Big.

  • @dandotvid

    @dandotvid

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh and don't forget he refuses to literally show up to give you that love.

  • @mistylover7398

    @mistylover7398

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup pretty much all the religious

  • @jameskelly3745

    @jameskelly3745

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also a loving murderer.

  • @mistylover7398

    @mistylover7398

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jameskelly3745 megatron is LORD autobots repent or parish.

  • @seighartmercury
    @seighartmercury Жыл бұрын

    The amount of patience they've shown in this call truly is incredible. Much respect

  • @mocmocmoc13
    @mocmocmoc133 жыл бұрын

    Now I know why Kenneth Copeland is so rich

  • @FxHnd05
    @FxHnd055 жыл бұрын

    "Most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." - Morpheus

  • @mullm5375

    @mullm5375

    5 жыл бұрын

    FxHnd05 Lol yeah I can see the comparison, maybe I should run into a church with my buds and beat up all the clergy with Kung-Fu, that would be sweet. I guess that the only problem is that when the cops were called I couldn't just vanish into a telephone.

  • @jeremyhughes1509

    @jeremyhughes1509

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Bryson Tiller what is your definition of the word faith?

  • @stevenpochejr

    @stevenpochejr

    5 жыл бұрын

    Man i love the matrix

  • @jeremyhughes1509

    @jeremyhughes1509

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Bryson Tiller what is YOUR definition of the word "faith"?

  • @johnaustin2248

    @johnaustin2248

    5 жыл бұрын

    They will ask to be plugged back in if you removed them...then want to forget and have a nice steak

  • @michaelsauve3848
    @michaelsauve38485 жыл бұрын

    My mother told me when I told her I was an atheist she told me she did not know where she went wrong. 🤨 This what I feel this woman is doing to her son.

  • @r.scottmacleod4564

    @r.scottmacleod4564

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually she succeeded completely by accident...the end result is you and her son figured it out and you both received half of what you are from your mothers....I also am in your category...my father is an admitted pretend Christian, he hopes it can be true but knows he see's no reason to believe it is true. My mother went to her grave believing she was going to heaven.

  • @yichen1273

    @yichen1273

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Sauve this is oddly similar to what lgbtq people go through when they have to come out to their families

  • @MysterX79

    @MysterX79

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought about this problem. My kids are raised without religion - you could say they are raised as atheists, but we are not really talking about atheism every day, so I prefer they are raised without religion. I swore myself, when they will somewhen turn to religion I will not do this crap: "Oh where did I went wrong?". But then I raised the bar for myself. I imagined my son would become for example a Nazi (he is not at all, but as a matter of extreme example I thought about it!) ... I wonder where my trigger point is, when I will say this sentence.

  • @marlinbundo2409

    @marlinbundo2409

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MysterX79 There is no such thing as unconditional love. Just make sure your conditions are sensible. If your son becomes a mass-murderer and never repents, it's okay to say "where did I go wrong." Disown the little monster. But if your son joins that other political party you hate, maybe let it slide.

  • @YoungOddo

    @YoungOddo

    4 жыл бұрын

    TrainerblueTube Same with my mom. Just ask them for a good reason to believe besides some pascals wager bullshit. I have asked over an over again and i still have not heard 1 good reason to believe in anyones god.

  • @dianaarzumanyan9526
    @dianaarzumanyan95263 жыл бұрын

    "Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise there would be no religious people. " -Gregory House This quote is so relevant to this vid.

  • @kennyg6159

    @kennyg6159

    2 жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @KateInTheCity
    @KateInTheCity7 ай бұрын

    This is the first time I've had the pleasure to listen to you ladies. I usually watch this channel because of Forest. I'll say that I appreciate the patience the both of you have when talking with callers. It's the one thing I dislike about Forest in a "debate" environment- that he often cuts callers off through talking over them. I appreciate hearing the callers' full thought before a response. Thanks ladies!

  • @iaminevitable_

    @iaminevitable_

    6 ай бұрын

    Same! This was a very good played out conversation where both sides were able to make their point without cutting each other off or having a time restraint.

  • @dani_is_terrible1198
    @dani_is_terrible11985 жыл бұрын

    She seems so nice, but what she says is SO dumb! My heart hurts listening to her.

  • @mullm5375

    @mullm5375

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dani_Is_Terrible 1 Yeah she seems nice but she's Minnesota nice........which is really not nice at all. I live in Minnesota and I deal with this all the time.

  • @ilkovic8772

    @ilkovic8772

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Bryson Tiller than they should try and give us their definition and as long as it doesn't mean that what they believe is objective truth there should not be a problem

  • @qdog7912

    @qdog7912

    5 жыл бұрын

    she is not very bright

  • @sapienssapiens35

    @sapienssapiens35

    5 жыл бұрын

    she's trying to articulate something much more complex - yeah, schizophrenic delusions.

  • @johnlopperman2161

    @johnlopperman2161

    5 жыл бұрын

    A thinking mind is a waste in many people, the purely functional automatic pilot is enough to keep them going.

  • @fmn2628
    @fmn26284 жыл бұрын

    Wow, miracle is this mother having an atheist son.

  • @ghostgamer75

    @ghostgamer75

    3 жыл бұрын

    her husband was an atheist only reason

  • @teamatfort444

    @teamatfort444

    3 жыл бұрын

    XD thank god for making that atheist!

  • @pnut3844able

    @pnut3844able

    3 жыл бұрын

    The father saved the day

  • @Leith_Crowther

    @Leith_Crowther

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s hardly a miracle that someone bad at defending their belief did not pass it on.

  • @xnoreq

    @xnoreq

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Leith_Crowther I think it has little to do with defending the belief. Ultimately, no theist can defend their beliefs rationally. It's more a matter of indoctrination and power.

  • @TheresAFuckingDuck
    @TheresAFuckingDuck4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine her son watching this, damn that must be embarassing

  • @totokekedile

    @totokekedile

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not really, I know she's like this. I watch it regularly, hence why I'm here responding nine months later.

  • @dstarkspp

    @dstarkspp

    3 жыл бұрын

    he shouldn't be she might learn something.....

  • @johndank2209

    @johndank2209

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@totokekedile this is your mom calling?? is she still christian? did her views change?

  • @totokekedile

    @totokekedile

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johndank2209 She's exactly the same.

  • @pam8264

    @pam8264

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@totokekedile i dont know if youll see this but....did you go to the pastor? if so how was your experience? did it make you consider the possibility of a god or did it drive you further away?

  • @donnyh3497
    @donnyh34973 жыл бұрын

    This is a beautiful example of the contrast between "I'll believe it when I see it" and "I'll see it when I believe it"

  • @cnault3244
    @cnault32444 жыл бұрын

    Christian: "look at the trees" Me: You know, I never thought of that ( pause to look at the trees). You're right! There's no other possible explanation! I am no longer an atheist! You have shown me the error of my ways! I am now a druid! All praise the Green Man!"

  • @youngsterfilms7368
    @youngsterfilms73685 жыл бұрын

    Being an atheist in the south, I'm actually surprised to learn there's official atheist communities... you learn something new every day lol hello my people!

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

  • @PaulBrown-uj5le

    @PaulBrown-uj5le

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 still have zero clue what that means, and stop copy and pasting crap.

  • @nicollasrodrigues148

    @nicollasrodrigues148

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 how do you know when or when not you are seeking with all heart? Feelings are not evidence from God, actually I can feel a better feeling smoking a joint and hearing a good music than when I was in church. My question is, what the fuck the emotion and the feeling has to do with there or not a god? I tell u, absolutely nothing

  • @mystique6068

    @mystique6068

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 that happens, when you think about god whole day and you already have something how would it look like meeting god. And when you have some kind of dream u believe it. Or when u constantly think about it, that thing become true for u.

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mystique6068 When people say they do not know God, it is not because God has failed to reveal himself, or that God’s revelation is not clear enough. Rather, their ignorance of God is something they have done to themselves. They are lying to themselves, trying to convince themselves that God does not exist or that he is obscure, while all the time God is watching them. I Could Place hundreds of Quotations that clearly prove that their is a God in heaven, But as he has stated his handy work is seen in his creation... The Word of God is the only Truth and the only hope to obtaining a peaceful life with the one true living God. It is sharing all the wonderful things God has done for us a saved sinner. Those of us who have grown up in the teachings of the Lord our God have departed our rebellious years, feeling bulletproof and wise in our own understanding. Hebrews 11:1-3 "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the people of old received their commendation. By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible." The word “Faith” means different things to different people and sadly, many people use it as a negative, disparaging term to describe anyone who believes blindly in God. But is this the kind of faith God desires for us to have? Is our faith really to be blind, without true understanding? If you look into the verse above, the writer of Hebrews will point out examples of believers who demonstrated real, saving faith in God. Each example of faith demonstrates trust, based on what that person knew and held as reassurance that God would act according to His promises. The "assurance" and "conviction" of faith is not blind belief, or gullibility, or wishful thinking or feelings. The characters mentioned in this chapter shows that they all had good reasons to trust in God. Their "faith" was not naively accepting fairy tales; it was acting in full confidence that God would do as He had promised, based on those experiences. Faith is so important because it is the means by which we have a relationship with God. This definition of faith contains intellectual assent and trust. Intellectual assent is believing something to be true. Trust is actually relying on the fact that the something is true. Understanding these two aspects of faith is crucial. Many people believe certain facts about Jesus Christ. Many people will intellectually agree with the facts the Bible declares about Jesus. But knowing those facts to be true is not what the Bible means by “faith.” The biblical definition of faith requires intellectual assent to the facts and trust in the facts. We must personally and fully rely on the death of Christ as the atoning sacrifice for our sins. We are expected to act in faith on God’s promises just as Abraham did, but we do that from a position of trust based on all the knowledge we have of God. Abraham followed God’s order based on his faith that God would keep His promise to raise up a nation through Isaac. Abraham had learned that God would keep His promises through a lifetime of walking with God, so this was a reasoned and informed faith. There will be times in our walk with God that we will act purely on faith because we do not have the whole picture, as in the case of Abraham. However this faith is not blind; it is based on knowledge of God’s nature and character, His promises in the Scriptures, and our personal experience walking with God every day. Faith and doubt exist on a spectrum, like light and darkness. As faith grows stronger, doubt vanishes. Let us all place our faith in God alone so that we would be strong in the Lord and ready to battle against the doubts planted by the enemy. Lord, increase our Faith! Galatians 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me."

  • @arthurneddysmith
    @arthurneddysmith Жыл бұрын

    16:02 She really does think that going to a few Christian churches is the same thing as studying various religions across the world. It's staggering.

  • @ianbabineau5340
    @ianbabineau53407 ай бұрын

    There was a woman who went to my mother’s church who was extremely religious. It was her only motivation. She had a severely disabled child (roughly 16-20 at the time of this story). She had never worked and the boy’s father took off before he was born. She was 100% dependent on government support. She decided that god wanted her to have a specific house that was several orders of magnitude outside of what she could afford. She put an offer in (asking price), and then put through the payment. She sincerely believed that god would put the money into her bank account. …. The payment bounced and someone else got the house.

  • @Mehki227

    @Mehki227

    6 ай бұрын

    At least she didn't die. But the people believing their cancer will be cured...because of religion is a special kind of evil brainwashing...

  • @horacebugzapper499
    @horacebugzapper4994 жыл бұрын

    When a caller prefaces everything they say with "this sounds silly, but" I think that means they're more self aware than they are aware. Hehe.

  • @thegoatking9506
    @thegoatking95064 жыл бұрын

    this is like listening to my mom talk about spirituality and how crystals can create magic forcefields

  • @artemis8368

    @artemis8368

    3 жыл бұрын

    Makes me sad that I can relate... I don't want my mother to be like that but I can't just destroy her worldview and make her depressed. I just try to make sure that she doesn't spread it much to other people.

  • @glimmerlarue7382

    @glimmerlarue7382

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like crystals and such, but more so cuz they're pretty xD

  • @benholroyd5221

    @benholroyd5221

    3 жыл бұрын

    They do, the forcefields keep rational people at bay.

  • @iveseen1

    @iveseen1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually germanium crystals have the ability to rectify radio waves and use to be used in primitive radio receivers. These were known as crystal sets. They dont need any power and run indefinitely.l made many of them as a kid.

  • @tybeeislandgoat1402

    @tybeeislandgoat1402

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, I feel for you brother. I can only imagine your pain. I'm sorry.

  • @dmantbo
    @dmantbo3 жыл бұрын

    It’s amazing how many vague ideas this person has to go through life with. It’s also hard to challenge her because it would totally destroy her foundation of who she is... it’s too bad and it also has to do with lazy thinking and not wanting to challenge your beliefs. This is a great episode.

  • @mikealexander2005
    @mikealexander20053 жыл бұрын

    The scary thing is that this woman is nearly a perfect Christian. She has swallowed hook line and sinker everything they wanted her to. No amount of reason or logic or anything will sway her. She'll never know that she's an amazing example of how religion is dangerous and despicable.

  • @johnsperry9494

    @johnsperry9494

    6 ай бұрын

    You can’t reason someone out of something that they didn’t reason themselves into.

  • @JohnVC
    @JohnVC4 жыл бұрын

    She really didn't want to label her son as an atheist, she wanted to call him agnostic, it probably made her feel better about herself that way.

  • @TreesTwisted

    @TreesTwisted

    Жыл бұрын

    I know this is old, but my uncle did the same. My brother called me an athiest (i am), and my uncle corrected him, saying i was agnostic, which i corrected him and said i am an athiest. It then went from "I'll respect your belief" to "i would like for you to come to church with me" (he doesn't even like churches) while also reading sections of the bible (even though he treats the bible as a history book rather than holy scripture). I understand why he did it, but it was weird that me being an athiest was an issue while my brother was pagan and had no issue with it.

  • @fatmikecj

    @fatmikecj

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TreesTwisted I always assume that is because people with different religious beliefs still use the same reasoning and justifications for their beliefs, whilst atheism directly challenges the entire basis of religious belief. When I was a Christian I was quite happy to accept Islam, Buddhism etc as I just looked at it as people interpreting god in different ways, but felt that it was the same god overall. They also have the same core belief of "there must be something more than this" and that's a comfort. Atheism basically goes "nope, this is it" and that's also very scary for some.

  • @Mystrohan

    @Mystrohan

    Жыл бұрын

    She probably FEELS that he's an agnostic, so it has to be true even if he tells her he's an atheist.

  • @user-vn9tp9gr3g

    @user-vn9tp9gr3g

    Жыл бұрын

    RIGHT‼️ If he was listening to all of this… He HAS to be.. utterly embarrassed “FOR her… ‘Cause she doesn’t have sense enough ..for embarrassment to even Register with her. She has No idea that she’s losing the argument.. A lonnnnng time ago.

  • @michaelstreich7734
    @michaelstreich77345 жыл бұрын

    THIS IS WHY PASTORS CAN ASK FOR PRIVATE JETS WHENEVER THEY WANT! LOL!

  • @omqmarisol9003

    @omqmarisol9003

    5 жыл бұрын

    Honestly lmao

  • @bms77

    @bms77

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Streich my dads been a pastor for 45 years and he’s far from wealthy but yer talkin about Benny Hinns of the world lol.. they’re all misled

  • @thetubeinsideyou

    @thetubeinsideyou

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Streich Like taking candy from a baby.

  • @mattgard1496

    @mattgard1496

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Streich 😂😂😂

  • @kosys5338

    @kosys5338

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's right. Religion was born when the first con man found the first fool. The con men have been playing the religion card ever since, with no shortage of fools to feed them.

  • @magicofjafo
    @magicofjafo2 жыл бұрын

    I periodically come back and listen to this call. It's amazing. Tonight is the night I listen again.

  • @diogeneslamp8004

    @diogeneslamp8004

    2 жыл бұрын

    This (the caller) is someone who has never, ever been required to think through a logical assertion rigorously. She’s having a very hard time dealing with the fact that logic and reason, which we privilege as a culture, are failing her.

  • @Cyb3riano
    @Cyb3riano3 жыл бұрын

    You know a miracle? That this person goes about life with such a simple mind....

  • @Logan_Baron
    @Logan_Baron4 жыл бұрын

    "Birth is a miracle" It's a biological event, that we completely understand the process of and it happens 360,000 times a day. I think we're severely lowering the standard for "Miracle".

  • @hypnotoad28

    @hypnotoad28

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would've made an attempt to explain that it is a biological occurence. However, yes, anything that is or can be conceived as "great" by any viewpoint is considered a miracle by most religious people.

  • @jamtaco2667

    @jamtaco2667

    4 жыл бұрын

    Look out! Science is going to disprove more of our BuyBull shit! *moves the goal post* Oh no! They're on to us! *lowers standard for miracles- gives all credit to "god"* ??? The fuck you say? Weren't they just incarcerating, torturing and murdering scientists for the longest god damn time? Now they love the tech we have but still believe they're right about shit they couldn't or can't prove? Why could all these other people see god, moses, jesus etc... but now when it would be in their best favor to manifest their god... they are all leading us to believe their evidence based on feelings and an old book that promotes misogyny, infanticide, genocide, genital mutilation and slavery... The fuck you say?

  • @dylancoleman1921

    @dylancoleman1921

    3 жыл бұрын

    One alleged virgin birth and now all birth is a miracle.

  • @pechaa

    @pechaa

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually, I gave birth to my children at home. All the midwives in my region were religious. I mentioned that observation to a fellow atheist homebirthing mother. She said she wasn’t surprised. Birth does feel like a “miracle.” In unmedicated birth, the mother is naturally flooded with oxytocin and other love hormones. Others present often catch the mood. Maybe what is identified as a “miracle” is an event or moment in which we feel great love, gratitude, or in another way connected to something greater than our ordinary everyday lives.

  • @MaeljinRajah

    @MaeljinRajah

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also I was born two months premature placentaprevia cesarean section or as I call it evidence one God doesn't exist cuz if I wasn't born in the 20 21st century well a medical expert can chime in here how totally f****** dead would me and my mother have been even just born in the 19th century? Yeah, it was a miracle I survived a miracle of science love science I thank the doctors and nurses every day of my life not god. And anyone that wants to claim that I should thank God I would tell you that you're a f****** ingrate right to your face because I'm going to spend my time thanking the people that actually did something not an imaginary f****** friend

  • @tomwatson9032
    @tomwatson90325 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure this lady is very nice, but she is childlike, and not able to hang with the complex arguments placed before her. I'm sure she's happy, but she doesn't have the ability to introspect.

  • @howardroark8553

    @howardroark8553

    5 жыл бұрын

    She's so happy BECAUSE she doesn't have the ability to introspect. My dog is the same way...

  • @ChampionofVardenfell

    @ChampionofVardenfell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not only can she not hang with the arguments, she doesn't even comprehend what they're saying at all.

  • @Zethneralith

    @Zethneralith

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Unless you have faith like a child..." Is Bible verse that bothered me when I was first struggling with faith. Why would a book that claims to be true demand that I "just believe it?"

  • @mikem9399

    @mikem9399

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wouldnt call these arguments complex.

  • @bluellownogreen3331

    @bluellownogreen3331

    4 жыл бұрын

    But 75+ percent of the USA population(man and woman,"and child") will speak just like her, maybe with more brashness or assertiveness or repetitive, over-elaborated B.S. than she's doing , but still, its literally on her level! Did you not hear her say god love is HUGE! If donald T. RUMP's assininity , loserly and traitrous nature wasnt so "Huge", he would have 75% approval rating vs the stunning 40% approval rating which is as stunning as the jerry springer show knowing that his approval rating should be 13%.

  • @geosutube
    @geosutube2 жыл бұрын

    4th anniversary of this episode! I'm very impressed with Tracie's ability to clarify the discussion with reliance on evidence as the test for reality. I'm so happy to have discovered this show in 2005! The entire ACA institution has provided me with a solid foundation for examining my own beliefs.

  • @qyoo620
    @qyoo6202 жыл бұрын

    the "he's not an atheist or anything, he's just agnostic" is strong with this one

  • @halo4176
    @halo41764 жыл бұрын

    "He's an atheist, but he's a good person." Also Dianna: " atheist, they're evil." Gotta love that good ole cognitive dissonance...

  • @markpolice3585

    @markpolice3585

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think that one part was a misunderstanding.

  • @snipercow861

    @snipercow861

    4 жыл бұрын

    That just shows that she’s delusional

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

  • @garethbaus5471

    @garethbaus5471

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 you keep copying and pasting the same useless unsolicited quote and it clearly doesn't benefit anyone or start or continue a useful conversation.

  • @soonerarrow

    @soonerarrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markpolice3585 What, that her husband was a nice person?

  • @paddlefar9175
    @paddlefar91755 жыл бұрын

    Her son is probably thinking, " Damn, I should have told mom not to use her real name!"

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    repent or burn in hell forever!!!!!!!!

  • @attaxiaffxi7033

    @attaxiaffxi7033

    5 жыл бұрын

    How can you be sure that is her real name

  • @PaulBrown-uj5le

    @PaulBrown-uj5le

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hillbilly2065 omfg if that's you in that avatar lol you should definitely be going to hell!.

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulBrown-uj5le WHAT it is and im not gonna go to HELL its you that will go to hell for being an ATHEIST!!!!!!!

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulBrown-uj5le YES ITS ME IN THE PICTURE!!!

  • @soonerarrow
    @soonerarrow2 жыл бұрын

    By Far & Away, this is the best discourse I've seen here. Patience, honesty and basic logic.

  • @krishpatel3156
    @krishpatel31562 жыл бұрын

    If Matt was there, she'd be crying within 5 minutes of this bs 😂

  • @courtneybrown5958

    @courtneybrown5958

    5 ай бұрын

    I thought the same thing! "God is love." So how does that love fit in with God condoning slavery, genocide, and sending at least 3/4 of the current population to Hell??"

  • @cincinnatislider
    @cincinnatislider5 жыл бұрын

    I bet her son found this to be so deeply validating to hear. Wake up, Mom! You deeply hold unreasonable ideas. Because of this, perhaps you should be exceptionally proud of your son for defying your influence and holding the only reasonable position that there is to take on the matter.

  • @jameswest8280

    @jameswest8280

    5 жыл бұрын

    The journey out of religion can be a slow and painful process,especially if you can't come out to everyone. I should know. I don't think I could ever go back.

  • @JamesRichardWiley

    @JamesRichardWiley

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had the same situation with my mom but her devotion to Catholicism and desire for sainthood was so strong that a permanent barrier formed between us. Now, whenever I meet someone like my mom I don't waste my breath after I feel the wall go up.

  • @dreamingrightnow1174

    @dreamingrightnow1174

    5 жыл бұрын

    On some level mabe she is, you know? She married an atheist...

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    Satan rapes homosexual in hell!!!!!!

  • @chrismurray3224
    @chrismurray32244 жыл бұрын

    She’s trying for the gymnastics gold in the next religious Olympics. 🤣

  • @johniec5282

    @johniec5282

    4 жыл бұрын

    She is bad at it though. She couldn't even win a tin medal.

  • @DaviesMartinezBeats

    @DaviesMartinezBeats

    3 жыл бұрын

    With so many backflips, I guess her sport is the High Dive...

  • @newtoatheism5968

    @newtoatheism5968

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s hilarious I’m gonna use that next time someone tells me how great god is God is a made up pervert

  • @sunnydae3914
    @sunnydae39143 жыл бұрын

    Lol I keep yelling “make it make sense lady” at my phone 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @petebetz5358
    @petebetz5358 Жыл бұрын

    You're absolutely right in fact the church I used to attend had a couple who decided they would pray for their child rather than take them to the hospital for an easily curable thing.. the child died the parents are in jail!!!

  • @Cristatachad
    @Cristatachad5 жыл бұрын

    Tracie and Jen do such a wonderful job remaining calm here. As irritatingly irrational as that lady was at times, they both remained calm while continuing to dish out counter evidence.

  • @gusgrizzel8397

    @gusgrizzel8397

    5 жыл бұрын

    She believes she is right. She just parrots words and phrases she's heard in religious discussions and books. "Letting god in" is one of them, and she can't even explain what that means.

  • @kandyhaldeman9971

    @kandyhaldeman9971

    5 жыл бұрын

    Especially after her comment right off the bat about her son being an atheist BUT - he's a good person. Poor kid, jesus h.

  • @jamesjack6769

    @jamesjack6769

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think Tracie is God 😍

  • @victorruiz7359

    @victorruiz7359

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah they are calm. . . I have a bad habbit of laughing out really loud saying "wtf that makes no sense " to theists

  • @mpldr_

    @mpldr_

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@victorruiz7359 I started like this as well but I did that once to my grandfather who was crushed by that reaction. Result: I apologised for my reaction but not what I said. Long story short: you probably shouldn't do that it's just impolite and usually prevents the other person to think about anything but your reaction. No judgement, just something to consider.

  • @tighecrovetti2844
    @tighecrovetti28445 жыл бұрын

    This poor woman hasn't the slightest idea how to think. Religion has ruined her brain. EDIT: I have a house to sell her, too

  • @madmartigan4077

    @madmartigan4077

    5 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps, a bridge?

  • @hillbilly2065

    @hillbilly2065

    5 жыл бұрын

    repent or burn in hell forever!!!!!!!!

  • @lewisner

    @lewisner

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can sell her shares in my brass mine.

  • @PaulBrown-uj5le

    @PaulBrown-uj5le

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lewisner lol

  • @PaulBrown-uj5le

    @PaulBrown-uj5le

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hill billy hi friend how's hell going? Let me know I'm thinking of going there on holiday, i might even see you there 👋.

  • @jasonfarrar4737
    @jasonfarrar4737 Жыл бұрын

    All of these folks came to religion through their parents. Ignoring the implications of child abuse, one cannot overestimate the likelihood of the children suffering from PTSD in adulthood.

  • @chrisking6695
    @chrisking66953 жыл бұрын

    I think there are truly people who don't understand what internal dialogue is. When they talk to themselves in their own mind they think that it is god. 🤣

  • @fuscinula
    @fuscinula5 жыл бұрын

    I feel for her son.

  • @NoName-fp3jk

    @NoName-fp3jk

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same 😳

  • @totokekedile

    @totokekedile

    4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate it. She's really hard to live with.

  • @arieschic8315

    @arieschic8315

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@totokekedile Damn!! I bet, well at least you're thinking everything through logically and looking at reality. It's ridiculous that christians are deep into this fantasyland of theirs.

  • @phant0mwolf421
    @phant0mwolf4215 жыл бұрын

    "God is real because we did nothing." "What do you mean by, we did nothing" "I don't know, we did nothing, so god" 😀 Ugh... religion sows logical dysfunction in the minds of man.

  • @tedgrant2

    @tedgrant2

    4 жыл бұрын

    It also makes a lot of money, which is a great incentive to lie.

  • @SFlare1
    @SFlare12 жыл бұрын

    Host:"Tell me why ebola breeding is not a miracle?" Caller:"I think there's evil in the world" Goodness gracious

  • @dspondike
    @dspondike2 жыл бұрын

    Found this episode at the end of 2021. Excellent job by the hosts.

  • @Philosophical_engineer
    @Philosophical_engineer4 жыл бұрын

    I love these 2 ladies. They really had high level of patience and they walked through everything logically with the christian lady.

  • @ZephyrusAsmodeus
    @ZephyrusAsmodeus4 жыл бұрын

    "The closer we come to the truth, the more uniform our beliefs should become." That is excellent, exactly right.

  • @paulk9188

    @paulk9188

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ZephyrFluous-If truth is what this world seeked, abortion would be illegal.

  • @ColorMeASatanist
    @ColorMeASatanist3 жыл бұрын

    This is my favorite AXP video so far! The mental gymnastics this caller did was astounding! lol

  • @deanlowdon8381
    @deanlowdon83813 жыл бұрын

    I get the feeling Matt would have hung up 5 minutes into this call! 😂

  • @dienekes4364
    @dienekes43644 жыл бұрын

    _"God is love!"_ -- Yes, god is nothing more than a human emotion. We agree, now let's move on.

  • @lauralahaye7699

    @lauralahaye7699

    4 жыл бұрын

    "God is Love" ... another evidence god doesn't exist ;)

  • @edrick106

    @edrick106

    4 жыл бұрын

    " God is love " ah yes, the love that teaches you how enslave people. How great love is!

  • @thelyrebird1310

    @thelyrebird1310

    4 жыл бұрын

    Okay so we need to love everyone.. ask her if she loves Hitler

  • @dienekes4364

    @dienekes4364

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thelyrebird1310 LMAO

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

  • @paulallen6336
    @paulallen63365 жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe the level of patience Tracie and Jen showed in dealing with that tragic caller. . I mean God bless them ....oh wait 🤔😬

  • @buckiesmalls
    @buckiesmalls2 жыл бұрын

    The mic drop moment should have been when the caller said "we didn't know what electricity was before we could measure/detect it" EXACTLY!! And when we can detect/solve these things of today, they will not be called god/supernatural. She was missing the point if the call.. They were trying to help her better convince her son.. And now she knows why she can't.

  • @dcrapier
    @dcrapier Жыл бұрын

    It always astounds me that people resolve to hold on to a decision made when they were children.

  • @alexlynch8901
    @alexlynch89014 жыл бұрын

    Her son should take a recording of this call to the pastor. He wouldn't need to add one thing.

  • @Gwaithmir
    @Gwaithmir4 жыл бұрын

    “The God excuse: The last refuge of the man with no answers and no arguments!” (George Carlin)

  • @perkeyser2032

    @perkeyser2032

    4 жыл бұрын

    "......-but he loves you!" :)

  • @roder51

    @roder51

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@perkeyser2032 LOL!

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

  • @Gwaithmir

    @Gwaithmir

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loveandfaithfulness4479 I did that with true conviction and an open mind for over ten years and never got so much as a busy signal in reply. Then I started engaging in comparative religious study and thinking for myself and the truth set me free: The Bible is no more than a book of mythology. All gods and religions are the products of human ignorance, fears, hopes and imaginations.

  • @loveandfaithfulness4479

    @loveandfaithfulness4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gwaithmir God is real. Never stop believing God and pray without ceasing. Isaiah 66:1-2 "Thus says the LORD: “Heaven is my throne,and the earth is my footstool; what is the house that you would build for me,and what is the place of my rest? All these things my hand has made, and so all these things came to be, declares the LORD. But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word". Humility is the key to oneness with God. Consequently, it is also the key to oneness with our brethren. God's way of achieving oneness is for each person to be so attuned to God that he is motivated to do everything possible to ensure that the relationship (with God or fellow man) is not only unbroken, but constantly becoming ever closer. Humility is what impresses God. Pride gets between us and God, and without realizing it, we actually shut Him out of our lives. The Bible clearly shows that our spiritual well-being is dependent upon acknowledging, with our lives, our reliance upon the revealed will of God-His Word.

  • @miconis123
    @miconis1233 жыл бұрын

    You're never going to get a clear answer from someone like this because their god is basically a comforting feeling. They want to believe so badly that they'll keep coming back to the belief no matter what.

  • @jerrylanglois7892

    @jerrylanglois7892

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, '' I do believe in ghost, I do believe in ghost, I do, I do, I do...

  • @newwaveknight1
    @newwaveknight12 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit, she literally pulled out "look at the trees." 😂😂😂 Dianna tries so hard to be a whimsical girl character.

  • @reyramirez5710
    @reyramirez57105 жыл бұрын

    This woman is unreachable😞

  • @grosbeak6130
    @grosbeak61305 жыл бұрын

    This lady is all feelings, just feelings, and more and more feelings just feelings. No consistent reason.

  • @totokekedile

    @totokekedile

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tell me about it, it's exhausting living with her.

  • @henrytheman74

    @henrytheman74

    5 жыл бұрын

    If they got into religion through feelings you cant reason them out of it, they need to 'feel' like leaving religion. She see's no harm in believing.

  • @BlacksmithTWD

    @BlacksmithTWD

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Sean Pittaway Obviously she cared more whether he was a good person or not. No doubt she and her husband will teach their son this value too.

  • @garychap8384

    @garychap8384

    4 жыл бұрын

    I actually like her. She seems benign and caring ... and these days, that puts her in the top 10 percent of people on the planet. Unlike God... I don't hang people for their beliefs, I'm all about how people treat those around them. This woman seems loving and decent _(for the most part: she did make one rather bigoted statement that I'm sure she'd never act on)_ It's only when someones beliefs spill over into harming those around them that I have to call it out. Benign delusion is something we all have to some extent... hell, I think I'm reasonably attractive - see? delusions everywhere ; )

  • @BlacksmithTWD

    @BlacksmithTWD

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@garychap8384 Note however that in order to claim "Unlike God... I don't hang people for their beliefs" logically some belief in the existence of God is required. If you actually didn't believe any god to exist, you wouldn't have made this statement. Something that doesn't exist can't hang people for their beliefs, ergo you must be a theist though a rather satanic one if you worship a god who actually hangs people.

  • @AbuctingTacos
    @AbuctingTacos3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine believing something based completely on emotion knowing it's probably not true but it makes you feel good.

  • @LilPitch-
    @LilPitch- Жыл бұрын

    How does Dianna FEEL when she looks at a picture of starving children? Is that God's love? Everything in her life has been OK so far...so she only sees that.

  • @mitrimind1027
    @mitrimind10275 жыл бұрын

    Poor Christian lady, the circular logic just keeps going around and around, and around. We keep revisiting her feelings like a broken record. Holy shit, how many times do we have to keep explaining it? It's almost like her brain is programed to forget what was just talked about every time she comes close to a realization.

  • @nevanderson1164

    @nevanderson1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Comes from living like a Guppy, in the god-fish bowl

  • @gerardt3284

    @gerardt3284

    5 жыл бұрын

    She's bouncing around nodes in her belief structure, too bad they're all based on the same foundation

  • @Zethneralith

    @Zethneralith

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nevanderson1164 Hey, you mis-spelled goldfi-- Ohhhh! I see what you did there!

  • @marxk4rl

    @marxk4rl

    4 жыл бұрын

    As many times as their parents explained to her the religion. Took many years to indoctrinate her. Brainwashing doesn't happen overnight because the brain rejects illogic. Her neural pathways are strong due to many years of indoctrination, can't be broken so easily. Good thing she's willing to try.

  • @mackereltabbie

    @mackereltabbie

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is, that's called antiprocess

  • @onyourface207
    @onyourface2075 жыл бұрын

    Tracie, I want your voice as my GPS, so you can guide me.

  • @fullTimeVeganinOhio

    @fullTimeVeganinOhio

    4 жыл бұрын

    That would be a distraction for me 🥰😍🤩

  • @SoChilledOutGuy

    @SoChilledOutGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    WHY DID YOU NOT TURN WHEN YOU JUST AGREED 10 MILES AGO TO TAKE TURN?! 😂

  • @AztroNut66
    @AztroNut662 жыл бұрын

    Perfect example of a person being able to communicate using a language while not understanding the language they use to communicate.

  • @joelonsdale
    @joelonsdale2 жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful person Dianna seems to be, albeit naive. The hosts were amazing and I really enjoyed the call. Great conversation.

  • @rckli
    @rckli4 жыл бұрын

    “I’ll find out when I’m dead” - YOU FOOL!

  • @rckli

    @rckli

    4 жыл бұрын

    Grasp fear. Say hello Run away. But fearing getting afraid so much it rules your life? Wow.

  • @peterjna12
    @peterjna125 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this! I've been raised Christian, and I'm finally breaking free after 43 years. There are too many inaccuracies in the Bible. Best worldly view is to be kind to each other and accept each other for who they are. Also, I've seen my sister with bipolar get destroyed, while my mother keeps praying for God to heal her. It doesn't work! She could have taken medication, but the condition worsened over time. Now it's too late. She should have taken medication and gone through treatment. Keep up the good work! I will stop this form of mind control and set my children free of superstition.

  • @behaviormatters7415
    @behaviormatters74154 жыл бұрын

    Jen’s last snippet was brutally amazing.

  • @Molly36
    @Molly36 Жыл бұрын

    I am 42 years, clean and sober in the fellowship of alcoholics anonymous. I’m an atheist and always have been but I was so desperate I was willing to do anything and I’ve been sober. There’s so much more to the AA program it’s one alcoholic helping another alcoholic we now have atheist meetings all over the world

  • @OlafsonN

    @OlafsonN

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s awesome t hear. I joined AA early in 2004 but stopped going shortly after because it just wasn’t a fit for me. I became pregnant with my first child in May ‘04 and it literally saved me. I couldn’t have stopped drinking at that time without him. It definitely wasn’t any god.

  • @sunstone6106
    @sunstone61064 жыл бұрын

    Jen, Tracie: miss the both of you very much.

  • @ronwisegamgee
    @ronwisegamgee5 жыл бұрын

    Diane is the embodiment of "feelz over realz." Her feelings even override Biblical scripture.

  • @Ebiru2387

    @Ebiru2387

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like there is some truth to that. :P

  • @cloutfisher7714
    @cloutfisher77143 жыл бұрын

    Tracie’s departure was a big loss for the ACA. I wish they still had her answering calls for Atheist Experience

  • @CaptainDooDoo-ans
    @CaptainDooDoo-ans3 жыл бұрын

    "We have free will"...later on..."there is a higher power we should turn things over to".

  • @teamatfort444

    @teamatfort444

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also “god GAVE us free will” Interesting...