I'm sure callers like this are also amazed at how a river can follow a state border perfectly.

@astroartie1872

2 жыл бұрын

And you know what? - I was born on my birthday!!! What a coincidence. I fell so lucky - can't happen to many...

@_Somsnosa_

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jordillach3222

2 жыл бұрын

🤣👍

@bernieflanders8822

2 жыл бұрын

And that water fills those potholes so perfectly on the road when it rains 😂

@PauloBarreto15041964

2 жыл бұрын

Do you believe we have this amazing river here in Portugal who follows exactly the border of 2 regions who are "Minho" e "Douro". Smart river hein? How does he know with 100% certainty were the border is?

"So ... you're pitching this as a serious call?" Lmao

@thatsjohn3938

3 жыл бұрын

Pull yourself together

@captainscarlett1

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, the caller is probably dead serious. Like children, the mentally challenged must be indulged in the hope of educating them. Even atheists may think that they have a moral duty to at least try to help these people. I'm not very patient and I admire the moral courage of the hosts to try.

@teresaamanfu7408

2 жыл бұрын

Has Victor seen evidence of the edge of the universe? We have mobile phones that can take pictures and videos these days. Has anyone gone to the edge and taken a picture that shows like, look, yeah! I am at the edge of the earth. Has that ever happened? Is there any evidence of this so called flat earth?

@Ematched

2 жыл бұрын

@@teresaamanfu7408 but, duh, the "government" won't let you get close enough to the ice wall to get pictures.

@lucasterable

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ematched well, try at least! Unveil the conspiracy! :P

"Wow, this hole in the ground fits me so perfectly," said the puddle, "it must have been made for me."

"Once your brain is flat it never grows back." I liked the way the presenters addressed Victor's flat earth absurdity.

I've always wanted to go to a flat earth convention. So I could be the smartest person in the room for once in my life.

@a.l.michael6240

4 жыл бұрын

I wanted to do that too, but I don’t think I would be able to hold the gig up for long lol

@theveganwujeeta

4 жыл бұрын

Did you try sitting in a church?

@RoseNoho

4 жыл бұрын

God must love stupid people, he made so many of them...

@kc6201

4 жыл бұрын

Some really intelligent people are still religious. I don't know how they do it.

@sashavandeven1043

4 жыл бұрын

You will be disappointed, because the people that speak at those conversations are pretty smart and make a lot of money of it 🤥

"I used to think I was superior because I was a vehement ant-theist, then I worked out being a flat earther made me feel even more superior and annoying"

@atme7513

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like if he was an atheist... he was a gnostic atheist.

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

It would appear that he is primarily a vehemencist, of no identifiable belief. Friend Unavailable is correct, lovely Tracie's question is perfect.

@petermirtitsch1235

3 жыл бұрын

@@atme7513 he was never an atheist. All these loonies say that.

@MrCool-lo3ls

3 жыл бұрын

@@petermirtitsch1235 yep, its always "I too was an atheist.. bah blah.. But then an arrow to the knee.. blah blah.. and then it made sense" Same stuff all the time. Just like claiming to do your research without doing it.

@TMPreRaff

2 жыл бұрын

you were an ANT-THEIST?

The scary thing is that this person is not alone. There are thousands (maybe millions) of people like him. And they vote.

@notreallydavid

11 ай бұрын

UK here. American-smart is as smart as smart gets, but American-stupid-and-proud-of-it has lots of exponents. How do they all function in society?

@pallejensen9484

9 ай бұрын

Juat goes to ahow how broken ur school system really is. Probaly thanks ro evagelical christians that would like to get prayers back into puplic schools just as well😂 Thank goofy 76% of my contry denmark in some sort of nonbelivers

@ixion025

8 ай бұрын

and carry guns

@skullduggerysmiles8393

8 ай бұрын

If the earth is flat, where is the edge.

@skullduggerysmiles8393

8 ай бұрын

If the earth is flat, where is the edge.

"When I'm sat in a car going 70mph, it doesn't feel like I'm going 70mph, therefore I'm actually sat still in a chair."

He sums up flat earthers pretty well. Just denies everything that proves him wrong.

@truu-dl8rp

4 жыл бұрын

Typical of a stupid flerfer.

@neologian1783

2 жыл бұрын

Which is just another way of saying he sums up the credulous "certain without good reason" family of human beings which includes and encompasses any number of irrational and unjustifiable beliefs like flat earth and god belief. Make your claims without evidence or justification. Ignore all things contrary. Act superior in your superior understanding and knowledge. (and appear foolish to the rest of us)

@stevenswitzer5154

2 жыл бұрын

The difference between you and Galileo is nobody is putting you weirdos in house arrest or killing you for heresy

@yy3hh

Жыл бұрын

all while saying "do the research" but never shows the research because he knows it will be debunked immediately

“The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you.” - Neil Degrasse Tyson

@louistournas120

4 жыл бұрын

Being super "intelligent" isn't a requirement to survive. Look at all the bacteria, zooplankton, phytoplankton, amoeba, yeast, plants and the rest of the animal kingdom. Human intelligence is an accident, which is also often used to destroy itself. How ironic.

@velkylev4217

4 жыл бұрын

@@louistournas120 human intelligence is not an accident. Lol . There is millions of different creatures that evolved different sets of gifts that help them hunt , defend or whatever. Accident just happens , evolution makes creatures evolve certain way that fits that creature and its environment. And thing like intelligence needs millions of years to happen , that's not an accident. Also ability to fly , make webs , be extra fast , make poison or any other gift that other creatures have is not a requirement to survive . Every creature simply does what it can with what it has and the rest is just a nature doing its own thing

@velkylev4217

4 жыл бұрын

@@louistournas120 another thing , intelligence is not destroying us , we are growing in numbers and also evolving mentally really fast . We took over the entire earth and soon the solar system. Maybe will even create things that will make us gods . I understand why you would think that, we are in the most important step of our existence now , it is little bit messy, we are stuck between the horrible and amazing. But once we evolve and get through this we'll be one of the most powerful creatures of our galaxy

@louistournas120

4 жыл бұрын

@@velkylev4217 : Agreed.

@davids11131113

4 жыл бұрын

That’s 1 great quote!

“I can’t feel it spin.” “The horizon looks flat.” “There’s a global conspiracy to hide the flatnessn of the Earth.” Oh yeah. You’ve done your research, guy.

@ltcolvandeleur4728

3 жыл бұрын

He did, there is this KZreadr that used big words that he did not now the meaning that sounded intelligent so he must be true.

@CronoXpono

3 жыл бұрын

Lol it’s a big shift of the burden of proof. Prove it’s flat or piss off.

@_-AB-_

3 жыл бұрын

You can't feel x-rays, but it works. Victor is a case of highly abusive parents, to neglect a child's education is so wrong. What he needs to do is ask himself how often his intuitions are correct on average.

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

@@_-AB-_ When Newton fled from the plague in London, he figured out the difference between constant velocity and acceleration, and even the fact that Kepler's equations accounting for Tycho Brahe's amazingly accurate naked eye observations, could be accounted for by planets constantly being pulled towards the Sun, but in curved paths.

@_-AB-_

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertrogers2506 keen observations and honestly approaching a problem does help.

I'd like to put all flat-eathers on a rocket with the following condition: If the Earth is flat, the rocket will return and you can rule the world. But if Earth is round, rocket will not return until you find a single flat planet in the entire universe. Agree?

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

Too expensive!

@BluePhoenix_

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertrogers2506 nothing is expensive enough for that!

@ededdneddy988

3 жыл бұрын

They have to comeback otherwise a new generation of flat earthers will rise

@denverarnold6210

3 жыл бұрын

Have them dictate trip's trajectory so we can see how spectacularly they fuck up.

@sjoerd7227

3 жыл бұрын

Where can I make a donation to contribute?

Wait.... quoting Neil Degrasse Tyson when Neil himself said that the fact that flat earthers exist is proof that our education system has failed...

@jessiehill703

5 жыл бұрын

Spanking fred .him saying the fact that flat earthers exist is proof our education system has failed. he might of ment failed to indoctrinate them hmmm.......

@adamgrotto8163

5 жыл бұрын

@@jessiehill703 Everyone knows exactly what he meant.

@Graeme_Lastname

5 жыл бұрын

Another option is that he is just plain stupid and no education system could have helped.

@jessiehill703

5 жыл бұрын

@@Graeme_Lastname religion is a tool a stepping stone to get past anger and hate or annoyance towards another along with many other great things that science is just now is beginning to explain but has always been. everyone has the ability to be what you think is intelligent even if they don't have the words or ability to express it

@Graeme_Lastname

5 жыл бұрын

@Jessie I agree magic can fix anything except for the lack of magic.

It's amazing when one guy can make you feel that humanity has made no progress in the last 2000 years...

@Longtack55

4 жыл бұрын

Why 2000 years? This guy is pre-Neanderthal.

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

@@Longtack55 The only thing that the Neanderthals lacked was written records. Perhaps they had a huge level of mentally carried culture. Didn't they do quite well for thousands of years?

@Firedrake1313

3 жыл бұрын

I've been trying to decide if it's possible that Victor might be a new mutation: Homo Stupidius.

@daverobertson623

2 жыл бұрын

@@Longtack55 because he's religious, so that's where his world view comes from.

@Longtack55

2 жыл бұрын

@@albertrogers2506 agree. They were dominant.

The hosts are remarkably polite and respectful to the nutty caller.

7:46 "Do the research yourself." Translation: "Seek out ideas that fit your worldview and reject ideas that don't." Got it.

Flat earthers' evidence: "because it looks flat."

@alanwilson4860

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know about you but the part of the world I'm from isn't even flat it's hilly lots of ups and downs lol. You can't argue with these people.

@albertrogers2506

4 жыл бұрын

"because it looks flat, or even bowl shaped" is better evidence than "because the Bible says so".

@albertrogers2506

4 жыл бұрын

@VIII Maus Better informed, but I grant this one's stupidity.

@emberblack8706

4 жыл бұрын

"i DoNT fEEL iT SpiNiNG" sigh....basic, elementary school science.

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberblack8706 Here's a weird fact: The Michelson-Morley experiment was designed to tell by optical interferometry quite exactly how fast this planet is moving through the "luminiferous æther". Since it gave zero results at both the solstices and the equinoxes, astronomers and physicists concluded that there was some flaw in the reasoning. Perhaps objects shrank as they were moving forward? Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity explained that, but its expansion to a General Theory predicted "gravity waves", which have been discovered by LIGO installations, Laser Interferometric Gravity-wave Observatories, so sensitive that if the æther had not been dismissed, it would detect the planet's speed of spinning motion, and prove it zero, implying that the Universe revolves round us!

Why would you trust educated minds when you have Victor from Brooklyn, whose done the research. lol!

@LoveScreamTrue

5 жыл бұрын

I laughed. I really shouldn't have. It's night time.

@TCLucas40

4 жыл бұрын

Or Eric Dubay, Nathan Thompson, Nathan Oakley, Gigantor and the rest of the Flerfs. That is their "do your research".

@ralfhaggstrom9862

4 жыл бұрын

@Nec Ro If any .........................

@martinkuliza

4 жыл бұрын

LMFAO.....Comment of the month

@alanelse1389

4 жыл бұрын

I dont think i will ever be able to get my jaw back of the floor after this one 😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

“Everything was made specifically for me to get to where I am now so trust me when I say I know everything, and everyone else is lying” - Victor; Random Psychotic Narcissist

@feedingravens

Жыл бұрын

That is (my definition of) classic cult ideology. My slogan makes me RIGHT and all others (who knew so much more before my slogan became the irrefutable Truth) are WRONG.

When you come across a flat earther it's best to just walk away.

@thenaturalmidsouth9536

2 жыл бұрын

And quickly....

@royroy3

2 жыл бұрын

Just don't fall off the edge 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@lepetitprince2188

Жыл бұрын

It is.

What is really miraculous is the patience Tracie has.

@starlaminde8436

2 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised she dealt with him s long s she did

"So I finally found proof that the world is designed!" "Cool, what is it?" "Well first we have to assume that the Earth is flat." ...

@davemwangi05

4 жыл бұрын

who are you?

@foilhattiest1

4 жыл бұрын

@@davemwangi05 the one who knocks

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

A proof that requires a questionable assumption is like saying you believe in the Flood because Jesus did.

"I was just like Christopher Hitchens!" Victor, you're nothing like Christopher Hitchens

If there is a God, this guy is rock solid evidence that he makes mistakes.🤔

@lightbeforethetunnel

Жыл бұрын

And yet not a single glober can show scientific evidence verifying the Heliocentric (globe) Earth over the Geocentric (Flat) Earth. Usually what you guys forget is that scientific evidence must be independently verifiable.

@El_Guapo509

Жыл бұрын

@@lightbeforethetunnel You are a great example of Dunning/Kruger effect.

@Charlie_Loves

Жыл бұрын

@@El_Guapo509he took something he knows so little about and made it look like he knows it completely. Im glad you responded this way.

@samara1815

Жыл бұрын

@@lightbeforethetunnel it IS independently verifiable, being too dumb to conduct an accurate experiment does not mean its not verifiable

@lightbeforethetunnel

Жыл бұрын

@@samara1815 Bull5hit. You're claiming to know things you don't know. What you're doing is assuming it's independently verifiable without actually independently verifying any of it... You're simply believing whatever you've been told to believe by mainstream academia, governmental agencies, etc. How do I know this? Because I have independently verified it... as have MILLIONS of others, now. And Earth's surface demonstrably does not curve.

Flat earthers make creationists seem brilliant by comparison.

@sadbutitstrue2323

5 жыл бұрын

Yet, both are the stupidest on the earth.

@mpcref

5 жыл бұрын

same people probably.

@germanvisitor2

5 жыл бұрын

Watch the King Crocoduck vs Kent Hovind debates. If you squeeze them YECs slip into the mindset of a flat Earther.

@StratMatt777

5 жыл бұрын

Flat earthers are flat earthers because they are creationists who take the bible literally. 2,000+ years ago the common understanding was that the earth was flat and that the stars were "Attached to a firmament" which was held up by pillars on each end of the flat earth. Yeah. Really. I know the Bible well and have seen them cite this stuff. Confirmation Bias is an amazing thing!

@jilliansmith7123

5 жыл бұрын

Sad but it's true: I think flat eartherism is stupider; the ancient Greeks devised methods that proved a globe; they keep begging, "Why not TEST it?" when it's been "tested" from here clear around the planet. Didn't some earlier civilization also devise ways to show and know it? Didn't the masts of the ships disappearing last during Columbus' days indicate it was spherical? Doesn't the same thing show it today? Haven't they ever been on a mountain or in a plane? At least creationism is based on imaginary things...a global/flat earth dichotomy is all around us in reality! Dumber to deny real evidence than to imagine some is there but it's being withheld... OK, both dumb, but I think flat earth is dumber.

Tracy: "You're pitching this as a serious call?" Eddy: "Yeah" *Face palm*

@spicecrop

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah like they are pitching Gender dysphoria.

@JamesRichardWiley

5 жыл бұрын

Wasting our time.

You guys were far more patient than I could be with this.

"If you throw out gravity ... " what we should have heard next is 'click'

The reason you don't feel the Earth rotate is because YOU ARE ROTATING AT THE SAME SPEED AND IN THE SAME DIRECTION!

@heronimousbrapson863

5 жыл бұрын

Waltham 1892 Exactly. We can't feel motion. What we feel is acceleration; a change in motion, either a change in speed or a change in direction.

@Waltham1892

5 жыл бұрын

@@heronimousbrapson863 Its the simplest application of Einstein's theory of Relativity. To an observer in space we are rotating at fantastic speed, but to someone on the surface of the Earth we are stationary.

@Waltham1892

5 жыл бұрын

@@BenWilson24 Thank you for the elaboration.

@gamingnscience

5 жыл бұрын

Waltham1892 you don’t even need Einstein for that. Pretty sure Newton had that already figured out.

@Waltham1892

5 жыл бұрын

@@gamingnscience possibly true, but Einstein put the correct interpretation to it.

Cannot believe theres a guy in 2018 seriously debating if the earth is spherical or not.

@ernestmac13

5 жыл бұрын

Look up the Dunning Kruger Effect, it explains how individuals and groups who lack actual knowledge of a subject; mistake their uninformed view of the matter as knowledge, and how the more firmly they hold this view the great to the degree they feel they poses actual knowledge. This covers so many areas we deal with in society, from false views on, the poor and poverty, to superstitions and religion, to political views not founded on fact but on what people think they know. Add to this human xenophobia, and the desire.for control and power; and we have the foundations for much of the social ills with society and around the world. This is why I feel it is important for Atheists to learn the valuable tools of Formal Logic and if possible Symbolic Logic, critical thinking skills, etc, so we might not develop such flawed reasoning as is behind the Dunning Kruger Effect. As we learn more about such aspects of human psychology, I think we will see, religious, spiritual, supernatural, etc, beliefs as far less benign.

@carlpen850

5 жыл бұрын

@ Social MM... you're absolutely correct, I couldn't agree more. I've seen the D&K Effect in action many times... also I've never viewed religion as benign, to me it's the dark side of human tribalism, it promotes arrogance and uses it's political power to dominate others.

@OzFPVflyer

5 жыл бұрын

Its got nothing to do with the earth and everything to do with their religion.

@wispa1a643

5 жыл бұрын

@Wōtan I've actually debated it for real with a friend. So not all are troll's.

@darrylsmith3102

5 жыл бұрын

Ramnath Bhat Yup?. See, Before the internet you had no clue as to how many Screwballs and Wingnuts reside on this round ball. The innerweb now allows you to see and Witness the mental REALITY of the inhabitants of this ROUND planet

Neil de Grasse Tyson : "you may not see the curve! Flerfs : " Neil said... " Neil : " The earth is curved" Flerfs : "Neil's a lying NASA shill" Pick a side fellas!

@elsadolan3962

3 жыл бұрын

I love the word Flerfs!

"What is intelligent about a flat planet?" - excellent question, should be asked more!

I love that Tracie, who isn't even interested in this question, still completely destroys the flat earther, in original ways, without even having ever thought about it.

@teresaamanfu7408

Жыл бұрын

Victor is not interested in the truth. He just likes to feel superior.

with matt this conversation would've ended before it began

@Steve52344

4 жыл бұрын

With Matt or any of a million other people, except these two who obviously know NOTHING about astronomy or cosmology, this caller would have stuttered and evaporated in seconds. For one thing, everything does NOT revolve around the Earth, but Tracie and Callie could come up with it. Thumbs down for them.

@Ace_T

4 жыл бұрын

Steve52344 I think they were more just agreeing for the point of the argument to see where it’d take him

@ploppysonofploppy6066

4 жыл бұрын

Much more entertaining with these two.

@americanpatriot8426

4 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Fermé And you’re done!

@calliewright2174

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ace_T you're correct here. I'll be honest and say that when I went on TAE I had zero clue I'd end up arguing with a flat earther, haha. I really just wanted to hear the depths of this dude's ignorance and exactly how the hell someone can seriously say the things flat earthers do

Victor, if you feel that you have solid evidence that can be independently verified, then feel free to write a paper stating your evidence and submit it for peer review like every other scientist has done to get their hypotheses reviewed.

@CodeLife_12

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but the problem is that those people don't believe in scientific institutions. They think we are all being paid by the government to keep this massive lie going.

@lightbeforethetunnel

Жыл бұрын

The mainstream scientific community rejects all research conflicting with deeply held beliefs such as the Heliocentric model. They are human too and, largely, react in the same dogmatic way the Atheists in the video reacted with. This is evident by the fact we have large groups of highly qualified scientists and topographers forming independent groups so they can be allowed to verify that Earth's surface doesn't curve in every independently verifiable way imaginable. To see 7 years of such scientific experiments, type in *Convex Earth* and watch the documentary. Every experiment is fully documented, shown step-by-step, and independently verifiable.

"Do your own research" = "Willfully misunderstand things in the same way I do"

Victor owes me several minutes of my life I'm never going to get back...

@DaviesMartinezBeats

5 жыл бұрын

@ben bowman - That tit, that breast of man OWES me....

@nin_ten_do_yo

5 жыл бұрын

Several minutes ? imagine being victor.....

@DaviesMartinezBeats

5 жыл бұрын

@@nin_ten_do_yo - LOL!

The ancient Greeks proved the earth is round with a freakin' stick!!!

@Insideoutcest

5 жыл бұрын

With just trigonometry

@peterconway6584

5 жыл бұрын

Thus demonstrating that the FE caller is dumber than a stick.

@theredblurb132

5 жыл бұрын

@@peterconway6584 Dumber than a guy thousands of years ago staring at a stick. Trying to use it to explain a sphere. When you can easily accomplish the same thing standing on a dock watching a ship mast go under the horizon.

@h.w.6563

5 жыл бұрын

They actually didn't prove it to be a sphere, because they had only two measurements. Make it three (or more) measurements and the results can only be accounted for by the earth being spherical. You know why they didn't try to prove it to be a sphere? Because everybody knew that already back then ;) Erathostenes calculated the circumference of the earth (roughly), though.

@jeffmilner8740

4 жыл бұрын

@@peterconway6584 a stick is useful

It time to remove the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out

"You need to do the research." Every flat earther says this same thing. What they're really saying is; "You need to watch the same KZread videos I watch."

@rickojay7536

2 жыл бұрын

And somehow lack basic knowledge of physics , 😂😂

Tracie is the clearest debater I have ever heard.

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

It's a funny thing, I think that she's beautiful, although I wouldn't call her "pretty".

@SailingJasine

3 жыл бұрын

She can destroy any caller without being rude like Matt often is. Pure class.

@mihalispsychedelicrealeyes1284

2 жыл бұрын

@@albertrogers2506 she's drop dead gorgeous

They handled him very well. Instead of arguing/debating flat or globe, which is useless with flat earthers, they debated his reasoning.

I'm amazed that his heart and breathing function when he's got so little horsepower in his head.

I love listening to the "do your own research" crowd. They couldn't cite a research source if their life depended on it.

If you drink enough you'll feel the earth spin😳

@jameslamere740

5 жыл бұрын

In the interest of science , I have conducted this experiment many, many times .

@Caspero68o

5 жыл бұрын

Me too😵

@michaelwarner7311

5 жыл бұрын

Sometimes when I get high I feel the earth moves separately from me

@kcflick6132

5 жыл бұрын

I can conclude this. Iv peer reviewed it myself and tested it. I got similar results. More testing encouraged

@jaymusic9039

4 жыл бұрын

Too funny

When I was in pilot school, USAF Williams AFB, class 71-03, on the first flight on the T38, the instructor flew us to 50 thousand feet where the curvature of the earth was obvious. But no flat earther would be smart enough to qualify for that.

This back and forth discussion reminds me of mine with my wife about how cars work. I've been working on cars most of my life, taking engines, brakes apart and put them back (as a hobby, I earn my livelihood as an Electrical Engineer). But I've never won yet.

“And when u go flat u never go back” I lost it 😭😭😭

@francelaferriere6106

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's gone, alright...

"Do the *research*" Research? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

@CarlosLopez58

5 жыл бұрын

I know what "research" means in Flatland: it means: Search "flat earth" in youtube and/or Google hour after hour, day, after day, and swallow what appears if it's crazy enough.

@TheAndnor

5 жыл бұрын

exactly. They are like parrots. I made a bingo game with the most typical things flat earthers say on repeat. I then talked to a flat earther and it took 2 minutes to get a BINGO! some exemples are: "do your own research" "water doesnt curve" "Nasa lies" Antarctica treaty" "Spinning ball" "1000mph" "Gravity is just a theory" "the bible says..." "Sheeple" "Nasa means decieve" and "horizon is always eye level"

@Tippy2forU

5 жыл бұрын

Research is the problem. What are they using for their research? You can debate a religious person all day but if they only have their book to research and that book has flaws, they have nothing else. There is no scientific additional material to religion. There is scientific additional material to science all day long. When they say, " the earth is the center and the moon, stars and sun were made for the earth only", that tells me it is religion. That cannot fathom that we are on earth and at this point we can see the moon, stars, sun, etc. How do they know that there isn't some being looking at the same shit we see on some other planet? We are not the end all be all. There are greater beings with more knowledge on another planet that we haven't found. Religion is man made to keep the masses who believe in check.

@andrewfrank7222

5 жыл бұрын

He means searching KZread.

@cedrichartz6426

5 жыл бұрын

Their research is on KZread

"Niel degrasse tyson says you can't see the curve at that altitude" You can't say his entire field of study is lies and then turn around and use him as a source. That's cheating.

@johnhammond6423

4 жыл бұрын

Niel degrasse tyson is right. You need a fairly wide field of view (ie 60 degrees) and a virtually cloud-free horizon to see the curvature at 35,000ft What you are seeing out of the small passenger window is just a slight distortion caused by the window.

@Crazalus

4 жыл бұрын

john hammond You can get a much larger fov than 60 degrees by looking out a plane window.... I mean, you only need 30 to each side of the centre and you’ve got the full 60. Get close enough to the window, and you’ve got past that.

@stevenbryant4718

3 жыл бұрын

That altitude is.... 34,000 feet, 24,000 feet, 14,000 feet, 4,000 feet, 400 feet.... say when. Flat earther, have you even been on a plane?

@korbendallas5318

3 жыл бұрын

Not at all. If two propnents of an idea give contradicting explanations, it's fair to point that out.

@erikd6124

3 жыл бұрын

The hosts can't use Neil and claim contradicting observations at the same time. Same shit

This dude would have fit in really well in ancient times.

Sometime I wonder how things got this bad, and then I remember people like Victor can vote.

I know this guy, he's been on lots of flat earth debunking channels, it's Wonton, he's a raving lunatic.

@Robeebert

3 жыл бұрын

Wonton never gets old, as a mockery of his name. Woton, however, never learns no matter how much evidence or argument is provided.

@ToxicTeemoOCE

3 жыл бұрын

I knew I recognized that voice.

@franciscosustek7249

3 жыл бұрын

He sounds like one.....

@yuuseir3391

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a raving lunatic indeed,

@douglasdavis8395

Жыл бұрын

@@franciscosustek7249 - I thought he was the dog that saved Hollywood?

"When you go flat, you can't go back! " 😂😂 Classic!!

@invisibledave

5 жыл бұрын

He should have said, "when you get a lobotomy, you can't go back."

Greatest interview ever!!

All you need to prove the earth is not flat is a telescope. The fact that you can't stand on a east coast beach in the US and see the west coast of Africa is irrefutable proof that the earth is not flat. You just have to have the mental capacity to understand what you're seeing.

my favourite part was when he said "you can't see the curvature of the earth" the the other bloke jumps in and says "actually i fly a lot and i see it all the time, i'm not being smart i'm just saying I'VE SEEN IT MANY TIMES" then flat earther says....."nah... you're mistaken" LOL

@flatearth9140

4 жыл бұрын

YOU CANT SEE IT FROM A PLANE !!

@flatearth9140

4 жыл бұрын

@Paul Simon McCarthy lol WRONG !!

@flatearth9140

4 жыл бұрын

@Paul Simon McCarthy LOOK IT UP

@flatearth9140

4 жыл бұрын

@Paul Simon McCarthy YOU UNEDUCATED PEOPLE MAKE ME LAUGH !!

@jonathanconnor7920

4 жыл бұрын

@Jay Right?! 🤣

The flat earth society have members all around the globe :)

@huggysocks

4 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing not in Antarctica.

@artje123

4 жыл бұрын

Good one ;)

@MrYodin

4 жыл бұрын

@@artje123 lol

@MrYodin

4 жыл бұрын

excellent coment

@pags86

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

Victor is an example of why abortion should be kept legal.

Let's put Victor on a ship headed to the edge of the earth and watch his confidence.

@fritzhaselnuss7852

Жыл бұрын

do you really want to waste millions of dollars on somebody like him? I usually dont say this but he simply "isnt worth it"

@douglasdavis8395

Жыл бұрын

@@fritzhaselnuss7852 - "Here, there be dragons!"

"I used to be a type of Hitchens anti-theist!" Kid, you have never even been close to anything Hitchens.

@psychicandice

4 жыл бұрын

Neil Breen at least he died doing what he loved 😄

This lady, when she gets going, just steam-rolled over the FE/Createon. "Get out of my way you little cretin!".. Tells him what's what and then moves on with her life leaving him questioning his existence. Love her! Tracie Harris

I lived for fourteen years in the quite beautiful vicinity of the Mourne Mountains of Northern Ireland. the tallest of these, Slieve Donard, overlooks Dundrum Bay, and you can climb from the beach to the summit at about 2500 feet. If there are a couple of large floating objects near the horizons of the beach and the summit, the farther out one can be invisible from the beach, and visible from the summit. The only possible explanation is that the seemingly flat ocean curves downwards in the distance.

He's right. "Once you go flat, you can't go back." Because you've demonstrated that you're incapable of properly evaluating empirical evidence.

If another Flat-Earther comes to talk to me, I will flatten him.

@ShangZilla

5 жыл бұрын

Stop it's hammer time!

I've recently heard victor on flat earth debates and he is the absolute epitome of dunning-kruger!

@acason4

2 жыл бұрын

Wotan… 😆

@douglasdavis8395

Жыл бұрын

@@acason4 - But THEY ignore the fact that it ISN'T a debate! They strawman a 50 - 50 tug-o-war, when it's more like 99.99 - 0.01.

Flat-earthers don't want facts, they want ATTENTION.

I came back to watch this again because it's so funny 😂

Mother Earth doesn't appreciate these people calling out her flat chest

@guytheincognito4186

4 жыл бұрын

She's not flat though. Lol

@chadrasmussen6127

4 жыл бұрын

Heheheeh

@albertrogers2506

4 жыл бұрын

In "The Age of Reason" Thomas Paine asserts that he believes in God, and that he does not believe in either Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, or Turkish religion, and that both the Hebrew and the Greek Scriptures are insufferably insulting to the Creator of the world we live in!

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@davids11131113

3 жыл бұрын

And where I live at 10,500 feet, it's not flat at all here it's all up and down the sun only shines about 6 hours a day between the mountain tops.

This is the guy who you move further away from on the bus.

@Smith1980

5 жыл бұрын

this is the guy that preferably rides their own short bus

@atheistgenocideinthebible1102

5 жыл бұрын

THE SCIENCE MAKE US THE PEOPLE, THINKINGS PEOPLE, NOT THE Bible!!! The Bible is a MIlitary Book of Violence and Genocide, thats all!

@atheistgenocideinthebible1102

5 жыл бұрын

BRAVO TRACIE!!!

@Rangerman9404

4 жыл бұрын

How far can you really move on the short bus that he rides on

@ferox965

4 жыл бұрын

This guy lives where the buses don't run..

I love when don jr calls in.

Victor is the best! His calls are always immensely entertaining! 😂

"Until you've done the research" ???? And ask most flat earthers what their research involves and they will start sending you links to KZread Videos by other flat earthers!! Why don't flat earthers get their "research" peer reviewed and published in a well respected Scientific magazine?? Duh!

@paleemperor5379

5 жыл бұрын

Research for flat earthers mean listening to their claims and believing it. That's what they think research is. Watch youtube videos made by flat earthers, don't fact check them, never listen to counter arguments or anything just believe it.

@RickReasonnz

5 жыл бұрын

Peer review? Are you CRAZY? They're part of the conspiracy! They will lie and hide the flerther research, duh!

The internet has provided a platform for idiocy.

@shawnmolupe6627

5 жыл бұрын

buloc verteth big time 😂😂😂

The world is round as evidenced by....*checks notes*.... everything. Caller: You're just trying to trick me.

Love that the guy was on about Galileo, conveniently forgetting that the church put him under house arrest for the rest of his life, because believing that the Earth orbited the Sun was heresy.

"When you go flat, you can't go back". This is not good news for breast augmentation surgeons.

@kUNCHRIS

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahaha

@dodumichalcevski

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@CronoXpono

2 жыл бұрын

😳 😂 how did I miss this comment Lmfaoooooo

"I was the Christopher Hitchens type of atheist" ... blasphemy: using the name of Hitchens in vain.

@louistournas120

5 жыл бұрын

@Darth Wheezius : I don't think that Hitchens was strong on science. However, he was very strong in religious debates.

@clorofilaazul

4 жыл бұрын

He could have never been a Christopher Hitchens type of atheist. He's saying that just to try to convince us that it's possible. What a stupid guy. But there was one thing he told which was very funny: "once you go flat, you can´t go back". And... guess what... He's true! He achieved such a stupid degree that he is unable to go back!

@clorofilaazul

4 жыл бұрын

@Darth Wheezius "Traits not normally seen in the conspiracy theorist". Absolutely.

@brendanshiels2971

4 жыл бұрын

Hitchens wasn’t anything special. Small minded and terrible debater

@guytheincognito4186

4 жыл бұрын

@@brendanshiels2971 Whatever helps you sleep at night lol.

One of my favorite debunks of flat Earth is how the Earth's shadow casts onto the moon. A sphere is the only object that casts a curve at any angle. If the Earth is flat we would see a thin line shadow once in awhile. Done. You don't need to talk about satellites, curvature, gravity, however obvious those things might be.

It's like listening to two adults talking to a 4 year old , and the 4 year old explaining why there is monsters under his bed

Sane person: Just show evidence...flat earther: but but but NASA

@apachechief8815

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Mercer NASA admitted earth photos are fake

@staceypool2318

4 жыл бұрын

@@apachechief8815 , no! NASA said because the earth is so big that they don't have satellites able to take the picture(s) of the whole earth.

@anamarte9859

4 жыл бұрын

Apache Chief stop taking words from your behind and clamining NASA said it

@apachechief8815

4 жыл бұрын

ana marte Kinda like that suspenders guy takes 8 inches in his ass

Traci makes the most sense when she tells the caller to ask geologist, physicist, astronomers, astronauts his concerns

The ancient Greeks actually did the math to prove the planet was round.

Astronauts on ISS: "so, how long do we have to lie?"

There is no point to talk to someone claiming the earth is flat nowadays. He is out of his mind.

@truu-dl8rp

4 жыл бұрын

No his mind is just stupid.

The heliocentric model was first proposed by Copernicus who had his book banned by the Catholic Church, the original flat earthers

@coco_bold

5 жыл бұрын

The heliocentric model was first proposed by a Aristarchus of Samo long time before Copernicus Sorry, Also the Catholic Church never was flat earther, that's a myth, it was against the Heliocentric model because it contradicted Plato and Ptolemy's Geocentric model.

@Alvi410

5 жыл бұрын

Grogery 1 In actuality in the middle ages the Inquisition hunted down flat earthers. Believe it or not the Church was far more smart back then. They praised knowledge and observation and were very, very, very wary of individuals that with no form of knowledge or education started claiming truths to the masses. Things changed radically after the overall populace become better educated and started undermining their overall power so they started reacting more violently. But never in recorder western history after developed scientific civilizations (greeks to say it quickly) we believed the earth was actually flat. Nobody believed columbus because he presented a globe far too small than what the greeks had predicted. And he was actually wrong. Long story short: the church in the would actually be far more sensible than today. One of the pros of the Catholich church is that they embraced the evolution theory, the big bang etc because they are not completely bat shit insane and know that god is something unrelated to a book.

@grogery1570

5 жыл бұрын

@@Alvi410 The Catholic Church excommunicated Galileo after he discovered a comet. The problem with comets is they moved through the crystal spheres that supported the planets and stars, according to the church. These spheres were the "firmament" the same thing Mark Sargent uses to make his flat earth not completely insane (unsuccessfully)

@Alvi410

5 жыл бұрын

Grogery 1 Man i know. I was talking middle ages. Dark ages to be more exact. Back then they were sensible. But the world around them was batshit insane.

@roqsteady5290

5 жыл бұрын

@@Alvi410 Well they may not have been flat earthers, but they didn't accept the heliocentric model - rather they thought that the earth was stationary and everything revolved in relation to it and persecuted people for claiming otherwise and they burned Bruno for suggesting that the stars were other suns, not pinpricks of light in the firmament. So no they were not that smart at all.

The best evidence against Intelligent Design is Victor from Brooklyn.

I like the way he tries to use Galileo as an argument to support his stupid ideas. What he doesn't realize is that Galileo used science against religious superstition whereas flat earthers do exactly the opposite.

"The rotation of the earth is what causes it to be round". Nope. Gravity causes the earth to be round. Rotation causes it to be a slightly oblate spheroid.

For a while flat earthers were a source of much amusement but now it's getting to be a serious and worrying problem.

@thewiseowl8804

Жыл бұрын

Are you still worried?

Once the caller admitted he was a Flat-Earther, you could bet money that whatever he said about the existence of a deity was gonna' be completely irrational illogical horsesh*t🤣🤣

The Earth is not flat because if it were, cats would by now have pushed everything off the edge.

@CyberBeep_kenshi

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

True flat-earthers are in need of psychiatric care. If they can believe that, they might just believe they can drive through a crowd without hitting anyone, or walk off a bridge and just float on by.

@darrylsmith3102

5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Hunt They also "BELIEVE" a Human walked on,... (Now Get This!) On WATER!!...

@scaletownmodels

5 жыл бұрын

Probably safe to test in a creek, probably not off the deck of a cruise ship.

@jonnie106

5 жыл бұрын

Worse than that, they just might believe that driving through a crowd is EXACTLY what their deity wants from them... fast path to a guaranteed serene afterlife, at the expense of complete strangers being killed/mauled by a car, truck, plane, sword, stone, rope, gun, bomb, acid, fire or the Iranian homosexual favorite... fall from a ten story building. Thankfully, unlike other ridiculous beliefs out there, flat earth belief brings us chuckles, elevated blood pressure levels, frustration with humanity and a head-scratching disdain for educational systems. But no one is attacked or murdered for it.

@netherwake1

5 жыл бұрын

thats really an absurd claim

@thomasluczak2868

5 жыл бұрын

or vote for trump and think it's a good idea.

your senses huh? when you are in a train getting up to 100 mph you feel your body accelerate. when you are already traveling at 100 mph you dont even notice it. not only that but you can stand up and walk to the back of the train. am i walking faster than 100 mph? i dont understand how the whole "the earth is going so fast. why dont we feel it" ? argument.

@thepuzzler3347

5 жыл бұрын

On point

@GSatiFan

5 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

@jonnie106

5 жыл бұрын

Flat earthers conflate 'moving' and 'acceleration' as essentially the same thing when in fact they are not. When they're sitting in a car travelling at 100 mph they believe they feel the car 'moving'. All their other senses chime in as well, to give them a clear picture of what 'moving' at 100 mph 'feels like' (they include engine sound, relative speed of stationary objects, wind noise, lateral acceleration through turns, etc). These observations don't support the 100mph speedometer reading they see as much as they'd like. The truth is they're only feeling the constantly adjusting values of acceleration. Very little of what they feel, is the result of the speed value on the dial. Driving over a moderate depression in the road at 60mph, results in minor acceleration values in all directions (not just the forward one the car is in). You bounce and sway a bit, as the shocks/struts work to absorb that acceleration. Then as briefly as it began, the bounce/sway subsides... as long as the road ahead is clear and unblemished. By crossing the same depression in the road at greater speed of 120mph, even greater values of acceleration are observed. So therefore, MPH is a 'thing' when considering evidence of 'motion' or 'moving'. Flat earthers are very, very married to this observation. So when astrophysicists tell them the earth is spinning SIXTY times faster than 100MPH, they expect everything they 'feel' at 100 mph to be amplified times sixty! This is where their brains go on strike, critical thought gets voted out, they consume a Jovian, globe-sized glass of Dunning-Kruger and they become the better than the rest of us, 'woke' flat earthers, smug and oh so self-assured. SMH

@Lepidopray

5 жыл бұрын

One popular youtube uses the "my senses tell me the earth is not moving" argument. In a separate "experiment" he brought a level on an airplane as some kind of bizarre "proof" that the earth is flat. I couldn't make it through his video, so I don't know how he reconciles that one doesn't feel motion when sitting on an airplane travelling at 400 mph in non-turbulent air.

@robertbrownjr2123

5 жыл бұрын

But its weird in a way, because if the train stops , we don't...not until we hit something.

Damn it all, after defeating the Spanish Armada, Francis Drake in his ship "The Golden Hind" sailed around the world. According to the sun, he was continually going in the same direction. His course was therefore a closed curve that "encircled" the Earth.

I love the random quote from Neil Degrasse Tyson 🤣🤣🤣

If you'll believe in a Flat Earth you'll probably believe anything.

@ralfhaggstrom9862

4 жыл бұрын

They do ...............

@SigmaUrash

4 жыл бұрын

That's the idea...

@chucheeness7817

4 жыл бұрын

not really. conspiritards tend to NOT believe anything contrary to their beliefs. If it's from experts, etc but they'll believe ANYTHING that some bloke in youtube says that acknowledges them.

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. If you live in Babylon or Kansas the Earth seems remarkably flat. Flat Earth believers do so in defiance of what well travelled people, or those with even a 2500 foot mountain top overlooking a sea (Slieve Donard, Dundrum Bay of the Irish Sea) can actually verify, that the 'flat' sea curves downward at the horizon. Without such enlightenment, the Biblical Flood, originally described in Babylonic cuneiform on baked tablets, is quite plausible. For people enlightened by either the Greek Eratosthenes, two or three hundred years before the Roman destruction of Masada fortress and the Temple in Jerusalem, or even Drake's voyage in the "Golden Hind", it is utterly stupid. The invention of the barometer showed that if the mass of the entire atmosphere were water vapour, there wouldn't be enough to a raise the oceans 10.3 metres. Ice sitting on land and in the mountains is more than that but not enough to rise above where it's sitting!

He says that he can tell by his senses. Doesn't he realize that his senses can be fooled?

I was THE most Atheist, Atheist thats ever Atheisted!!

My favourite response to Flat Earthers is that if the earth was really flat, capitalists would have taken full advantage of it by building resorts all round the edge including great big swings so you could swing right out over the edge.

@avishevin1976

2 жыл бұрын

But they did! But they are reserved for use by the ultra-rich who are all part of the conspiracy. Duh. The better retort is that if the Earth was flat, cats would have knocked everything off by now.