American Navy (retired) wife here. The difference between us and Fergie is that we are not dealing with the separation of deployment alone. We are either near the base with other wives in the same position or we’ve gone home to be with family. I’m sure it must be harder being the only one around in the deployment situation.

@gerrywrafsimmons7542

26 күн бұрын

Well said, fortunately Princess Catherine was extremely lucky in being with Prince William when he was stationed on the island of Anglesey. Where they could enjoy each other's company in the first stage of their marriage. Some Military Wives are not as fortunate.

@lloyannehurd

26 күн бұрын

Canadian Army wife here (Retired). Thank you for your thoughtful perspective. All spouses of all ranks need to be considered. Hers was truly a unique position. I met her by accident once on a base. I actually felt like she, at least for a moment, was one of us. I just don’t think she knew how to form a support group for herself or even was able to because of who she was. Isolation has many faces.

@tracieh215

23 күн бұрын

@@lloyannehurdwhich “her?” Catherine?

@lloyannehurd

23 күн бұрын

@@tracieh215 No, Sarah.

I have a lot of sympathy for Fergie listening to this. How awful to become a royal wife and be left all alone. Then become a royal mother and be left all alone. Given her personality she was bound to get into trouble.

The difference between the late Queen's pregnancies and Fergies is that Elizabeth had her mother, father and sister with her. She wasn't completely alone whereas fergie was. Most Navy Wives live where their husband's ship is based and can socialise with other Wives.

I honestly felt terrible for Fergie being subjected to ridicule for her pregnancy weight gain. She probably made the mistake of thinking that she was eating for two (adults), but maybe she also did some comfort eating sitting home alone missing Andrew. I've never been a fan of Andrew, and after hearing how insensitive he was to Fergie following Beatrice's birth, I like him even less. How wonderful it could have been for Fergie to recuperate at Queen Noor's vacant home, recover from popping her stitches, bond with her new baby and spend some blissful time with her husband before he left again for sea. Her decision to go off on a royal tour with Andrew and leaving six-month-old Beatrice at home to rekindle her relationship with Andrew may have signaled the beginning of the end of their marriage. Thanks for another great chapter review, Shauna. I look forward to your next installment!

When Sarah was a Weight Watchers ambassador she said she believed she was never going to lose the weight, that she had lost control. In the 90s and the 2000s, she cut out sugar and stuck to a straightforward exercise regime to achieve a very slim figure. Sarah said, "It took courage to deal with her weight because every time there was a 'Duchess of Pork' or 'Fat Frumpy Fergie' headline, they didn't have any idea they were reaching to the depths of her soul". It is hard to feel sorry for Sarah over the past 20 years, but this name-calling was a form of bullying that wasn't fairly dealt with and frankly was not good form. Also being compared to a rather unhealthy Princess Diana was always unfair.

Mischievous girl! I think her life with A cannot have been easy. I find him too arrogant and self-serving.

@ajune583

26 күн бұрын

May I add...Pompous and a bit of a narcissist, who like Harry wanted to be #1!!

I always thought that the press treated Sarah terribly when she was pregnant

@01denese

21 күн бұрын

Yes, but it's not healthy for a woman to gain that much weight

The press were really cruel to Fergie ,even my husband said how bad the press were and he wasn't a royalist.

Yes, leaving your 6 week old baby to go on tour makes you a bad mother. And now she's the victim.

I remember Fergie slipping when she left the hospital. I was appalled by Andrew's behavour, as he just looked at her & did not help her up.

@pma475

19 күн бұрын

Yes I felt the same and I did think she was being sweet to want to show her newborn to the gathering.

The two consenting adults by the pool I thought were Fergie and her financial advisor-Johnny enjoying her toes🙈I haven’t worked out the other mystery though. It may be something that has never come to light …

@graphiquejack

26 күн бұрын

Yes I assumed she meant there was a bigger story than her affair that was being ignored or wasn’t known. It probably would have been one of Diana’s affairs, or maybe Chuck and Camilla. But Diana cheated first so maybe it’s about her. I can’t imagine any of the other royals being ‘a bigger story’ than her scandal. The press by that point weren’t very interested in the elder royals, and people knew about Margaret’s wild times and Phillip’s alleged philandering. The only other thing I could think of is maybe the Queen’s alleged flirtation with Porchie… but I don’t think that was anything more than her being flattered or maybe a little crush that went nowhere.

@govictoria-cd7kx

26 күн бұрын

I agree, the two by the pool are Fergie and her friend/adviser. So basically, Fergie was saying that she was having her story of the pool disaster scene played out in public when someone/something was going on with someone else that was a much bigger story. I think it was Diana, there are some really juicy stories that others have alluded to, but no one has come out and said directly.

@rachelstephen6816

26 күн бұрын

I agree with the consenting adults being Sarah and John. I took the threat to the monarchy to be Diana's cooperation with the press/Andrew Morton, even though that's not exactly Buckingham Palace. It would have been too obvious if she had said Kensington Palace.

@SassySar

22 күн бұрын

Yes surely it’s Sarah and her financial advisor.

I do think the entire York clan was much more in the Harkle camp pre Megsit than they are today - well the ladies. Beatrice seems to have fallen off first - I’m excited for her if what River reports is true that Charles is giving her a trial run as a WR, I’ll be looking out for her at a garden party this summer. I feel she’s really matured with her marriage to Edo, she seems to be keeping much closer to the London/Windsor based side of the family recently, and I’ve grown to like her. Eugenie, I’m still skeptical about, though she also seems to have distanced herself somewhat - I think in her case her hubby’s career when he was promoting Casamigos was too tied to Soho House and the MAs of the world, not sure since he’s changed lanes. I think Sarah’s always just chasing whatever keeps her relevant and in the papers. Adding, I do think some of the members of the RF “the monarchy” becomes a far too personal thing - particularly those not in the direct line. They envision their importance as far larger than it actually is. Both the current “spares” seem to have been infected with this sense of over inflated self importance to the monarchy as a whole - Harry & Andrew.

I really hated the way Sarah was treated by the media. It was appalling. I felt so sorry for her. What an awful experience for a young mum.

The good royals using the bad royals sounds like something a bad royal would say🙄

@kerrywilliams.5342

26 күн бұрын

Exactly

@Anna_Key

25 күн бұрын

And as Richard Eden says, if they uncovered a bad Royal story and IF the Palace gave them a good Royal story... they would publish BOTH!

I think I read that there is an indoor pool in basement of BP that Diana used frequently.

I can sympatize with the popping of the stitches! My first baby was 9 lbs 3 oz and presented in a breach position. The doctor used forceps to turn him and pull him out. I had the epsitomy from hell. I caught a cold in the hospital and coughed so hard, I popped every stitch! No, they can not restitch - you have to heal from the inside out. Lots of tub soaks.

@bpapso

26 күн бұрын

Yes, been there done that. And the healing process was very itchy! Lol!

@suemcdermott2947

26 күн бұрын

You poor soul. All my belated sympathy

@kathrynriggs2489

26 күн бұрын

@@suemcdermott2947 Thank you, lol. So glad my baby birthing days are long over!

@suemcdermott2947

26 күн бұрын

@@kathrynriggs2489 mine too yay

@kathrynriggs2489

26 күн бұрын

@@suemcdermott2947 I don't think they let this happen anymore. This was in 78 but to be honest, no one checked me until my Mom went out and gave them hell in her RN head of cardiac cath lab voice and then this got moving!

Anne was mostly at Gatcombe Park, children had been packed off to boarding school by 1988 when Beatrice was born, Laurence equerry from 86-88, seems difficult to imagine it could be those two. More likely one of Diana’s many amores. Seems odd Diana would cut Fergie off about verrucas! Much more likely she was worried (terrified) about that ‘hint’ in the book and afraid Fergie was dangerous for her. Curious I wonder had D lived how long it would have taken for the truth of her ‘affairs’ to come out and her toppling from her pedestal. Fergie was DEFINITELY dangerous to Diana

This chapter adds another layer to Sarah’s personality. From your reading, it appears she has ADD or ADHD because she is always on the go, busy, inappropriately energetic, unfocused, and annoying. Perhaps her excessive drinking was self medicating behaviour to take the edge off her boredom, her ADD or her depression. As well, how awful to be married or to be pregnant and not be with your husband. The beginning of her marriage sounds terribly lonely. I find it telling that it took a while before the couple found a house in Windsor to nest in. Sounds like neither Andrew or Sarah understood how to build a family because they lived in Buckingham Palace as if they were living separate lives. As well, the pressure of having her appearance or weight mocked in the press must have been awful. And as far as the press having to always go create a good vs bad Royal I can see that storyline in the Catherine vs Meghan; Elizabeth vs Margaret; William vs Harry and so on. It is a journalist’s easiest plot device isn’t it? Right now I’m beginning to feel a void in the stories being reported in that Catherine is off the radar. Who shall fill in the gap? The tabloids are still putting forth Harry vs the King but that’s getting boring. Back to Fergie….this chapter makes it easy to see why she ended up having affairs.

Shauna. I have recently read a novel loosely based around Princess Grace of Monaco. I was surprised the term ‘spectacle’ Was used apparently by Grace Kelly to describe her wedding and that she often wore beige as her statement colour. Similarities? Perhaps she is not only following DOW but Princess Grace.

Shauna, I'm with you. I am finding this book as captivating as The Housekeepers Diary. I could listen to your recap of each chapter all day. You have a captive audience. I have to giggle a bit, because it's like we're a houseful of little kids waiting for our bedtime story! Also, I love your interviews. All of your guests are on my favorite list. Can we submit the names of some other KZreadrs we love as suggestions to interview? Of course, they would be only at your discretion, and some will be much easier to accept than others. I loved your talk with all of them so far, but Andrew Gold is one of my favorites. He is close to my son's age, so listening to him is somewhat comforting as I miss my son so much. Could we send you some questions for some of your upcoming guests? However, you probably like the surprise element in introducing them. Wouldn't it be a hoot to land HG Tudor! If anyone could do it, it would be YOU! You made a good call on Kitty Kelley's book. That looked more like a university textbook! Looking at how large that book it would give me a panic attack. Thanks for all, Suzanne in Texas!

I've always had the opinion that there has to be people behind the senseless behavior of the disastrous duo, "advising" them for the next PR stunt /grift etc. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens to be "the York's". 🤔🤔

@thevintageread

26 күн бұрын

Yes I wonder…

I doubt the late Queen ever used the word 'vulnerable'!!

I think she means the courtiers decide they don't like a certain royal, and then do all they can to sandbag that royal, even if it means negative press about the monarchy.

I would caution anyone to take Sarah's book with a healthy grain of salt, in the same way most people regard Spare. There is plenty of documentation online of Sarah in that era taking off by herself with Steve Wyatt's social circle and other invitations for weekends/vacations, etc. and leaving the children behind when they were still quite young. She liked a drink, but she had other longtime habits, as Kitty Kelley mentions in her book. That may have been something that added to her up and down emotional state, her unpredictable behavior in public, and her reactions to what was going on around her.

I think the “poolside” passage you were inquiring about relates to the toe sucking photo between the Texan and Fergie herself. When she references the “real” story the press missed, I think she’s talking about courtiers tipping off the press about her and the Texan’s whereabouts (which enabled the toe sucking photograph). She contends that in doing so, a staff member of the palace “undermined the monarchy itself” (in reputation and thereby existence). Such a fan! Thanks for another great video.

Oh well, Sarah's left us on a real mystery. I hope someone in the know from those days can shed some light, I'll not be able to sleep for a week trying to nut it out. Such a cryptic clue! Thanks, Shauna! Who'd have thought Sarah's book could be so interesting and intriguing?

probably something to do with prince phillip, hence his immense dislike for sarah and banishment from the royal household whilst he was alive…total supposition of course

@PetsTalkTarot-lc3hs

24 күн бұрын

I thought the same thing!

Well Shauna I haven’t a clue about who the two by the pool may be, but someone was suggesting troublesome ‘spares’ . All the spares have been problematic Margaret was terrible trying to undermine the Queen, Andrew spoilt rotten and said on several occasions that he would have made a much better Heir to the throne than Charles, and Harry is a spoiled selfish idiot.

It is very curious, Fergie shows such acute self-knowledge and awareness, then turns that on its' head and behaves like any other yobbo.

@pamelacox540

26 күн бұрын

With someone so completely self-involved as ol’ Fergs, it helps me to see that person by their behavior v their yapping. If you look at Fergie that way, her behavior has always been remarkably consistent (and so thoroughly at odds with how she talks about herself). Fergie has a degree in gaslighting.

@flyonthewall8122

26 күн бұрын

​@@pamelacox540 I wonder what HG Tudor would say about her.

@ongjanette

26 күн бұрын

​@@pamelacox540 I was wondering too... Was it all just a fiction of the press? But you're right, Sarah had been consistent with her actions in public and this new layer of self-awareness may be a mere projection she wanted of herself.

@argosz8046

26 күн бұрын

@@pamelacox540 I love that phrase "a degree in gaslighting".

@margaretlovecchio8316

25 күн бұрын

HG Tudor has said Andrew is a narcissist, I don’t think he’s said whether Fergie is a narcissist, a normal or an empath

The consenting adults at the swimming pool were definitely Mr Toesucker and Sarah herself, surely. As to those harming the monarchy, I'd guess she's alluding to some of the higher courtiers?

@debrawhite751

25 күн бұрын

Yes. My thoughts exactly. The courtiers actually run the monarchy and Fergie and Diana and Harry hate them. I thought immediately that the couple by a pool referred to herself and her financial advisor.

I have always suspected that aunty Sarah had quite a bit to do with the whole Megsit situation. I lived in America and made money weighless(remember). Maybe not directly.

As a product of a 'Naval' marriage I can tell you my fears of abandonment started young. I went from hiding behind my mums skirt each time this strange, but very nice man would visit with presents of dolls in native dress from all over the world to screaming when he suddenly wasnt there.

@thevintageread

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@Mom2Aiden08

26 күн бұрын

That’s a sweet story. ❤️

@itsmesam1967

26 күн бұрын

@@Mom2Aiden08 thanks, just thought Id share the other perspective of a navy relationship lol. I didnt see my dad on a regular daily basis till I was around 6. Lots of pro and cons. Then we emmigrated yo Australia! Gosh that was 50 years ago now... wow.

@swissuz

26 күн бұрын

Military child here...and yes, even though we lived abroad, my father was still TDY very often. That left my mother to fend for herself with three small kids in a foreign country. By the time I came around, we had landed in Paris for four years. Too bad I was too young to understand we were in such a beautiful place to live. I still have memories of it being like a fairy tale land. I still see things through Parisian eyes. Hot chocolate and croissants for breakfast and yes, Daddy returning home always with a foreign collection doll. I still would have preferred him to be at home all the time.

That colir of red is beautiful on you, Shauna!! Thank you for the video...wish I could donate because you deserve it! One day I will!

Lovely dress Shauna....red becomes you,

I heard that Sarah and the York girl are very friendly with sharkle. I wonder if their given information about Royal family .

Ive never got 7 glasses of wine from a bittle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@gwae48

26 күн бұрын

HIGH FIVE 😂😂😂, just thinking that.

@grainnelambert881

26 күн бұрын

@@gwae48 👋 😂😂😂

@thevintageread

26 күн бұрын

😂 😅Standard glasses x

@grainnelambert881

26 күн бұрын

@@thevintageread 😅😅😅😅 good night

Agree with you re hotels. Surprised am enjoying her book.has to be your reading and discussion.

@margaretmckee7710

26 күн бұрын

Yes I remember reading it some years ago but enjoying this much more x

Maybe two consenting adult were princess Anne and Queen's Equerry Timothy Laurence (now husband of princess Anne)

@anneballantyne3766

26 күн бұрын

That’s it for sure! 👍

@Anna_Key

25 күн бұрын

That's a good possibility, but that's no longer a secret. It must be something that is not widely known.

@knittedfingers4869

25 күн бұрын

@@Anna_Keyit’s no longer a secret now but at the time would of been. They did get married in 1992 so time line does match up

@bridgetmclaughlin6198

22 күн бұрын

That wouldn’t have been a bigger threat to the monarchy though. Needs to be someone closer to the throne.

@Anna_Key

22 күн бұрын

@knittedfingers4869 thanks. I thought Sarah's book is more recent than that. It has to have still been a secret at the time she wrote the book. 🤔🤷🏽‍♀️

The only thing I can think of with a swimming pool would be princess Margaret and Roddy Llewellyn but no idea if the timeline fits

You have wonder should she drinking alcohol when pregnant or after pregnancy..

I really don't get the idea of "bad royal good royal" going through the press. While the press has been invasive and pushy at times, it does seem that they played on existing prejudices and stereotypes of actual events. It clearly isn't fair to complain about a pregnant woman's weight or call her ugly. I have never liked any celebrity story where the focus is to call someone "ugly", because that's subjective. But unfortunately, Sarah did indulge in a lot of food and alcohol in front of people, and she seems to be saying that she indulged more when unseen. Sarah does make my skin crawl at times.

Diana was buying candy and Fergie was boozing it up. Different stories.

@gwae48

26 күн бұрын

Would have picked an evening with Sarah.

@happytoday333

26 күн бұрын

​@@gwae48same.

Sounds like she spent to much time wallowing in self pity, instead of really doing something that could help her through that time. Self absorption. Thousands of women have husbands in the forces that experience exactly the same circumstances , but they get on with it. I’m struggling to feel too sorry for her. She was her own Worst Enemy. I did feel it was grossly unfair the horrible names the press gave her. Sorry I’m not being very nice in my opinion Shauna. I do enjoy your reading of it tho. Thankyou so much for all the pleasure you bring to us.❤️🌻

@dianehoag682

26 күн бұрын

Agreed! I went through my first/only pregnancy while my husband served in Viet Nam (helicopter pilot). My parents & sisters were great support, but even receiving mail was sparse that year-long trial. Get on with it.

@PS_testing321...

11 күн бұрын

I think that is why Prince Philip disliked her, he didn't do self pity and always said it's not about you, remember that.

My girlfriends husband was in the Navy. She lived in a navel house down the coast. I've never seen so much bed hopping and divorces in my life. Hard life and lonely for alot of those wives.😢

@01denese

26 күн бұрын

There's an Air Force base in my town and the amount of drink is incredible

Anne and Lawrence

Okay, here's my theory about the remarks about "two consenting adults by a pool" and a purportedly "missed" story that might threaten the monarchy. She's trying to set up another juicy book. Others have intimated that they have stories they haven't yet shared which would be damaging to the monarchy (drama-ceto), and Fergie does write a few books hither and thither.

@PetsTalkTarot-lc3hs

24 күн бұрын

Maybe it was a veiled threat to someone inside the monarchy.

At times I feel sorry for her others she gets on my pip. I wonder what the untold story is....will have a long think❤

Phillip and Diana😂. She went to BP almost daily for a swim and I read Prince Phillip swam naked with Charles and Anne. Skinny Dipping? I'm kidding although I do think she may be referring to Prince Phillip.

While it is interesting. I do not think a royal should write a book and spill on private affairs. That is very tacky. I also think she was her own worst enemy. Control yourself. You had chefs that could make delicious healthy food. She had a responsibility to present herself better. And not waddle around all self indulgent.

She's a bit pathetic comparing her going on a tour, to the Queen, and Queen mother. Their position for attending, as Queen, and wife of the King, are a bit more important. It would have been quite understandable if, not even Heir, but Spares wife sat it out, after birth. Excuses if you ask me.

I think her generation ended the silent wives club. However, having everything taken care of after a baby would be dreamy.

@KatherineSpinks-cu9io

26 күн бұрын

Omg if I’d had any help after my first born I would have loved it! Instead I was alone with my newborn 10 pound baby with NO help. I was bruised from my hips to my knees (pushed for 7 hours). Every blood vessels in my eyes were burst & bright red, couldn’t see any whites of my eyes. The bad part: no one told me what my eyes looked like. When I went to the restroom for the first time after delivery, I looked in the mirror and began to scream hysterically! The RNs ran in and just couldn’t believe that no one had warned me!!!! Much respect for all mothers! Happy Mothers Day y’all.

Princess Anne and Timothy Laurence by the pool at Buckingham Palace?

@MellyBooHoo

26 күн бұрын

But how this would undermine monarchy tho?

@Diovanlestat

26 күн бұрын

Lol, never thought of that one. 😅

@pennywynn8716

26 күн бұрын

@@MellyBooHoo First divorce of one of the Queen's children?

@MellyBooHoo

26 күн бұрын

@@pennywynn8716 not really as this all happen earlier that year - divorce in April, toe incident in august. My thoughts are more of with Diana as someone mentioned she used to use the pool in the basement there.

@krishnavyas313

26 күн бұрын

​@@MellyBooHoo Anne was married and Timothy was staff member. If their affair was made public that would end up in divorce which happened in 1992.

Its Diana and Hewitt, everybody new about Charles and Camilla and Diana was the future Queen

It was very short but |I am ill so want to go back to bed - every cloud ......😂

@thevintageread

26 күн бұрын

Oh get well soon Jackie xxx

Great read Shauna. I got home from hospital with my first and hubby had invited 6 people to dinner. Think my mum was going knock his head off lol

Hello everyone 👋

@janscott7565

26 күн бұрын

Hi Tammy!

@SkyeandsSummer

26 күн бұрын

👋👋👋 Hello Tammy from Scotland

Oh Shauna I’m listening on my lunch hour and I’m laughing to myself hysterically like an idiot!😂😂😂

Love that coral colour on you, Shauna…..I wonder if you have ever had your “colours “ done….I did, back in the ‘80’s, and I was a Spring, I think…..I think you might be a Spring, too! Love your channel, Sandra

Hi Shauna another great broadcast, you ask if the odious couple read Sarah's book. I seriously doubt that but I'm bloody sure she read Andrew Morton's book on Diana from cover to cover, wrote the Script, took the Lead Role and is awaiting her Oscar, just saying.

Hiya Shauna ~ This was a good chapter. What year was it when the clue was happening? Please, accept my apology for not being nice in your live chat this morning. I woke up, hit the head, put the coffee together to “cook”, came back into the bedroom, picked up my phone & was delighted to see you posted a new chapter….but when I opened it….I thought, Oh, what fresh hell is this?😁 I have never seen a Live quite like it. How the heck did I miss the notification? What’s the time difference? Which time zone, of Australia do you live? I’m sure people from different time zones & countries were delighted to live chat with you! If I had come in at the beginning, while having my coffee, I’d be delighted. I don’t usually communicate until I’m halfway thru my coffee. I made it with 2 shots of espresso. I’m following a trial over here so, there’ll be no time to nap. Back to Sarah ~ If we knew what year it happened maybe we can figure it out?, the identity of the Royal? Thanks, again, for the new chapter. I like Fergie. I do NOT mean to make this a conspiracy theory. About the leaks, it wouldn’t surprise me if Andrew shared gossip with Fergie, who in turn, shared it with the 2 girls. And, they talked to H&MM. Thanks, again! Patty fm Philly.

Ok Shauna I’m learning that I can’t listen to your show at lunch because I laugh so hard I can’t digest! 😂😂😂

My second son was born while my husband was in the middle east. Yet, I understand what you are saying... it is still sad and lonely, palace or not.

My USN dad was at sea six weeks before I was born when a hurricane downed a big oak onto our newly rented house in Norfolk. My brother and sister were 2 and 4. A good neighbor got our house fixed before his own. Dad came back, but his ship soon left again, so I was almost born in a taxi. The last 5 decades, many if not most military first marriages fail after a few years.

I think she might be making insinuations about the rumours surrounding certain members of staff. Possibly Michael Fawcett? However, because she describes them as consenting adults, it gives me a sense that she's describing a homosexual relationship, not rape. So perhaps she's insinuating a royal family member was having an affair with member of staff. Who knows?!!

@krishnavyas313

26 күн бұрын

I think maybe she was talking about princess Anne and Queen's equerry Timothy Laurence who is now 2nd husband of Princess Anne.

@Ronnie-lu7uo

26 күн бұрын

​@@krishnavyas313mm🤔, though neither were residing in BP? Edward was not married then 🤔

@krishnavyas313

26 күн бұрын

@@Ronnie-lu7uo As Queen's Equerry Timothy Laurence spend so much time in Buckingham palace.

@Ronnie-lu7uo

25 күн бұрын

@@krishnavyas313 Of course 😎, that makes sense. If correct, they were v in love and still are. 🥰

How sad that the monarchy staff are playing the houses against each other. But then why is there not a meeting and get them thought and tell them to get this out. Very unprofessional people.

I was very surprised that Princess Anne participated in the Royal Knockout. I remember reading that Diana wanted to be part of it but Charles forbade it.

Diana used to swim at the Buckingham Palace pool, but that was early in her royal years, I think. But perhaps she had an assignation in that pool?

Did you say 14 glasses between two bottles of wine? I have glasses that hold 1/3 of a bottle 😂 well, you know what they say, everything is bigger in America 🍷

@thevintageread

26 күн бұрын

😂💕

Is there a swimming pool at Buckingham Palace? Two consenting adults by the swimming pull - I assumed she was referring to the toe sucking scandal and how they used that hide what Sarah believes is a bigger scandal. Having experienced H&M gas lighting, this may be her trying to gas light the situation.

@rosemarymurlis-hellings8138

26 күн бұрын

Yes. BP has a pool.

If she was a bad mother, Andrew was also a bad father

I think everyone thought Sarah ought to be thin, stylish, poised and polished like Diana and because The Duchess of York was a bit tomboyish and thick-waisted she was an easy target for the media's cruelty; it really was unfair.

Surprisingly, this book is making me judge S harshly - whereas before I held her in regard because we all know it's not easy living in a goldfish bowl. In this book it's so obvious that S thinks everyone should love her just 'the way she is ' - which is a fake people pleaser - that's not being genuine when you use it as your DEFAULT MODE for all your social, personal & professional interactions- at the end of the day this chronic manipulation! And you know what? Who gives a toss if you're called Duchess of Pork - when you've been fine wineing & dining at t best establishments in London & globally! But of course, S wants her cake & to eat it too 😂

People pleasers would always feel that they are MORE acrutinized. Or at least that's how i would interpret her "feeling the tension whenever she walked into a room"... who's to say it's not just her feeling it. But then the way that pans out is it becomes self-prophetic when the awkwardness is aggravated by self-consciousness wch in itself is a gaffe-magnet. For some reason, the way Fergie describes herself in her book, she comes across as very self-aware and caring, but in everything that the public had observed of her, not just strictly reported, but i mean real witnessed actions and interactions with the public, she can be oblivious and crass and uppity. I have no doubt she can be charming whenever and to whomever she wants to be, though.

While she's missing Andrew, he doesn't seem to be making it up to her on his return. He was just as selfish on the honeymoon after the wedding. Sarah also seems to be her own worst enemy, taking on work, when she didn't have to, whatever the reason was. The reason she could take on the work, is because of the help available to her in Nanny care. I'm not feeling as sorry. She should have known the press were like vultures then, that they'd pick on her baby weight after birth. Comparing her to Diana, and other Royals women.

Love your book review.

Doesn't tell us anything new about Andrew, don't you think...anyone who has major tantrums with the staff about the order of his teddy bears placed on his bed...hmmmmm. Mememeee-Andrew and people-pleaser Sarah, a recipe for disaster unfortunately... Andrew did not have the selflessness needed to help Sarah gain a healthy confidence in herself....and she never learned to stop mugging for the camera for a few laughs and act with decorum

I do think the press picked on Fergie...and sometimes she earned it !!

I'm not sure if I have missed it, whether it is still to come or Fergie has 'forgotten', but I happen to know an Officer who was ranked higher than P. Andrew in the Navy. He was at sea with him and told me that PA used to be extremely annoying. I'm informed that when the ship was going into a port, PA would ask others to swap shifts so that he could disembark and meet Fergie who would fly there in advance. I'm sure that many of the crew would have loved to fly their wives around, and to add insult to injury, PA wouldn't carry out his part of the deal! With regards to the "By the pool" comment, I have a feeling that I know who it concerns. The clue is in the 'consenting adults'. It is common knowledge in the gay community that one member of the family had explored 'other aspects of their sexuality' before settling down. I can't say more than that as it will break a confidence.

I think she was referring to herself in the pool. And as bad as that was it was unintentional. In her mind it wasn't as bad as the stunts Diana pulled intentionally!

I really do feel sorry for Sarah in this chapter. Everything she went through during her pregnancy and directly afterwards to Balmoral. It does seem the hounding was unfair.

Prince Philip was known for his dalliances. Apparently, the Queen wasn't oblivious to that. I think it's possible that Fergie is alluding to Prince Philip as the one who's "undermining the Monarchy itself".

Sounds like Fergie is talking about headline news about herself and friend’s affectionate poolside behaviour, and a much juicier story at Buckingham Palace being ignored.

Why on god’s green earth would Phillip want to undermine the monarchy?

I think she could mean the two consenting adults by a swimming pool were either her and Johnny Bryan in 1992, or perhaps her and Steve Wyatt who she first met in 1989, and there was a photo in the newspapers of him and Beatrice , who was about 2 yrs old, and it looked as if the photo had been taken by a pool as she had on a pair of swimming trunks and it was then if I remember correctly that the story broke that Fergie and Steve were having an affair.

Sarah did not have anyone to help her after Beatrices birth from her own family, no personal support.

I saw an interview with Sarah Ferguson on TV recently where she claimed she barely met Meghan, only twice. I imagine Meghan either studied Fergie's book for useful taunts or get them secondhand hand from Beatrice and Eugenie.

The difference with the Queen going on tour It was work. She didn’t really have a choice. The government sent her. Also the Queen Mother was home and the two children were very close to her.

Did they read the book. Hell yes. Megan always looks for a good angle. She studied the family more than anyone who has written books on them. She pieces together her narrative by doing this. Her study got her Harry. And keeps Harry

Phillip and Penny.😉

Might have to get this one & read it. I was around during all the wild child days & am neutral about the youthful indiscretions of both Fergie & Diana. They weren't saints & didn't pretend to be. I made enough foolish mistakes of my own. Good convo below about service wives & coping mechanisms, what wasn't as available for Fergie. Their compassion brought me up short. Blessings! Jackie in upstate NY

One of my brothers was life time Navy , my sister n law often was the one keeping the home ship running at home ! Not always easy ! I can feel for Fergie … still have issues though with many of her choices !

Yep, I agree with Sarah about a kitchen ❤veggie omelettes homemade eggs Benedict are better than the ones we’ve had on cruises 🚢 2:59 I never liked her that much, but you’re making me more sympathetic with your coverage of this book 📖

Okay, Shauna, you know what you need to do, right? Contact Sarah & do a KZread interview with her & ask her who she was talking about. I'm sure she'd love to talk with you!!

@thevintageread

26 күн бұрын

I doubt it, but thank you!

I always felt that Sarah Ferguson was given a bad press when she put on weight, they were really nasty, 😥it was her way to fight the pressure

I think the two consenting adults would have been her and the Texan wouldn’t it?

That colour is fab on you Shauna ❤

Hi Tammy 👋

There was a heated pool then, at Buckingham Palace, that Diana used regularly.

I think the two consenting adults she is referring to are herself and Bryan. She seems to be saying that the press were making a big deal over their shenanigans, when their was so much more important things happening at the Palace which were potentially more damaging to the Monarchy.

@thevintageread

16 күн бұрын

Yes of course! For some reason I was thinking of the Pool at Buckingham palace 😂

I'm enjoying this series which I didn't expect. I'm not a fan of Sarah but the insight and the hurdles she faced should be seen with empathy.