do away with Jets in California one personal Jet equals tens of thousands of weed trimers

@welchsbeanjuice8071

2 жыл бұрын

Rich people control the country. There's no way that'll ever happen.

@john-martin

2 жыл бұрын

The pollution is the fault of the little people.

@baileyhatfield4273

2 жыл бұрын

@@john-martin Grandma mowing her lawn is killing the planet lol

@thewizzard3150

2 жыл бұрын

@@john-martin so says smiley Joe.

@thewizzard3150

2 жыл бұрын

@@welchsbeanjuice8071 smiley Joe flys solo in the biggest and dirtiest plane there is.

I own a landscape business in the northeast. We've demoed most of the poplar electric brands, including the one you mentioned. They are ok for homeowner/very light commercial use. They will not work (as of today's technology) in commercial use, or very heavy commercial use (like us). One of the major draw backs is the battery packs overheat, and need to cool before charging. You have keep a truck running with a inverter, cycling these battery's every 25-45 minutes with the spare battery packs. IMO idling the truck for 7hrs+ defeats the whole purpose. Thanks for your video! and bringing back our nightmare, from earlier this summer.

@IOwnCalculus

2 жыл бұрын

I'd expect that idling that truck with its fuel injection / emissions monitors / catalytic converters / DPF / etc results in far fewer emissions over seven hours than running a fleet of carbureted two-stroke engines for even half that time.

@mikeybhoutex

2 жыл бұрын

Question: Would not a whole lot of batteries solve the problem? Of course, the cost of acquiring enough of the things is one part that's not helpful, then the setup to charge them all the previous night would be very interesting and space consuming, and then I figure the transporting/storage of them about the day is a bit of a concern for where and how... But other than those things, would a lot of extras help? Are the other problems with this idea? Just curious, thanks everyone!

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that insight. I was wondering how this might work in a commercial situation. As suspected, not very well apparently. Thanks again.

@mattmalenda6585

2 жыл бұрын

We can off-set the emissions of commercial gas-based cutters by having home use be electric.

@Swarm509

2 жыл бұрын

@Tech Café I think the Petroleum companies are going to be jumping on that pretty fast if they suddenly see that their profits are going to go down when cars are forced to be sold as EV only. I am already seeing the natural gas companies here in Canada moving towards different products (hydrogen or hydrogen-natural gas mix) to keep up with the tighter energy/carbon requirements the building code and keep pipelines in use and clients paying for their product. I could easily see oil/gas companies doing the same for cars/trucks, especially if they can show they can do it with less environmental impacts then EV (plus keep production all domestic). A lot of our current processes/plants/pipelines/etc could be converted over to something else if the will is there to do it.

I suspect this will result in lots of people "maintaining" and "fixing" their gas-powered garden gear in the way that I have with my grandfather's axe. It has had 12 replacement handles and 3 replacement heads -- but it's still my grandfather's axe 😀

@RedfishInc

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for the past 30 years or so things like small engines have been being built under the concept of built in obsolescence . They are built to eventually fail in a catastrophic manor. Plastic gears driving cam shafts, pot metal components , blocks, pistons, rods and valves made of chinesium. The vast majority of these engines will be unserviceable within ten years of the new law passing. Electric motors will become cheaper as production increases and people will eventually get used to the idea of quieter lawn equipment. Of course having the change batteries every so often might be expensive but probably not much more than re-engining a gas mower. The real question is, will there be enough of the minerals needed to manufacture batteries in mass quantities and will the waste products of electronic and battery manufacturing prove to be just as bad or worse than internal combustion based power plants, from a ecological point of view.

@xjet

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedfishInc Don't worry... third-party companies will step up to the plate with spares - just look at how that's worked for the auto-makers in the past. If there are very real financial benefits to sticking with ICE-powered tools then there *will* be spare parts and people willing to fit them.

@sunbeam8866

2 жыл бұрын

@@xjet Elsewhere here, someone posted "The new law also bans repair parts". So much for 'Right to Repair'!

@sunbeam8866

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedfishInc Don't forget about the 'other' real question. How is our overloaded electric-grid going to charge the millions of battery tools and EVs that are supposed to replace our current equipment and vehicles?

@henryostman5740

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedfishInc Since most of these tools are already made in Chiner, I expect them to be equally reliable to the krappy engines we have now. Question 1 is the CA electric utility system is broken with no effort at fixing it aside from band-aids, how are folks going to charge all those batteries? My Stihl power equipment soldiers on.

That law is like pissing on a Forrest fire.

@baileyhatfield4273

2 жыл бұрын

Pissing gas on a brown out state. Lets mandate electric only in a state where we can't even keep the lights on LOL

@douglasparise3986

2 жыл бұрын

Pissin into the wind

@knowone6214

2 жыл бұрын

LOL.....got that shit right

@TheSkinnny

2 жыл бұрын

We're all set to watch the fire fighters running around with dead batteries in their equipment, looking for electricity that doesn't work and probably started the fire, and getting ready to wait 45 min before fully charged.

@peteranderson037

2 жыл бұрын

Pissing on a forest fire is something that they're used to in California.

I can see a lot of mower shops in Nevada, Arizona and other neighboring states seeing an uptick in business.

@evilblackcat6357

2 жыл бұрын

I foresee a lot of CA small businesses going out of business who cannot afford to switch over their entire inventory at the whim of a bureaucrat.

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

And perhaps a change of business registration from landscapers in CA to other surrounding states.

@tbyoda9475

2 жыл бұрын

Another reason never to move there.

@michiganborn8303

2 жыл бұрын

@@tbyoda9475 Or in my case move out

@averyalexander2303

2 жыл бұрын

@@evilblackcat6357 The law doesn't force businesses to switch over, they are still free to use whatever gas powered equipment they already own or buy second hand for as long as they want. The only difference is new gas powered equipment won't be sold in California anymore, that's all.

If we're going to be forced to go electric everything, then somebody STANDARDIZE THE FRICKIN' BATTERIES. I've had enough of being bled to death by tool and equipment manufacturers that all use their own proprietary battery and charger designs and voltages.

@97I30T

2 жыл бұрын

100% agreed. The same thing needs to happen with EVs too if they’re going to force us into electric cars.

@questioner1596

2 жыл бұрын

@@97I30T, while I agree, it didn't happen that way with engines or transmissions in ICE cars, so I doubt they will be standardized for EVs.

@OvertravelX

2 жыл бұрын

@@questioner1596 Gasoline is the standard.

@pirihern9329

2 жыл бұрын

France is working on standarizing the cords on phones it's a start

@questioner1596

2 жыл бұрын

@@OvertravelX, I was talking about EVs, and in that case, the type of gasoline would be equivalent to the type of charging plug. The battery is a major powertrain compenent, equivalent more to an engine, transmission or even fuel tank. Gasoline is not completely standardized. There are different octane ratings, and if you're talking lawn equipment, could be mixed with oil or not.

Small engine dealers just need to use everything they sale for a few hours first and then sell them all as used. This is NOT where emissions problems are being generated.

I asked a golf course owner once he why I never see electric carts on courses, he said because it takes all night to charge them and by Noon they're all dead.

This reminds me of the issue of rebuilding brick ovens in the steel mill i work at, they are not allowed to build new because of the age so there take them down to a single brick and rebuild them. Gonna be alot of lawnmowers rebuilt with the originals cowl or wheels lol.

@EngineeringVignettes

2 жыл бұрын

I see a resurgence of small engine repairs shops starting in California... Used ICE equipment is going to be _gold_ (in them thar hills).

@SI0AX

2 жыл бұрын

@@EngineeringVignettes The next law will be that repairing ICE will be illegal.

@SteelOfLegend

2 жыл бұрын

@@SI0AX Doubt it anytime soon. Maybe at a federal level in 30 years but too many people wanting right to repair laws so it would take a long while before any outright ban is issued. Even still it wouldn't ever end.

@SI0AX

2 жыл бұрын

@@SteelOfLegend Then the next law will be that refining petroleum is no longer legal? TBH, I think they will slowly kill of petroleum producing by slowing increasing taxes to both producers and consumers until it is no longer economically viable and the industry gets killed, but from what I've heard, gasoline, diesel and jet fuel is not the only thing that industry produces so maybe they would not touch diesel (because food industry depends on it) and just start with increasing taxes on gasoline only to get people to buy electric cars(or hydrogen). Then after that gets set up and the electric semi's become developed enough, they will do the same to diesel fuel, then after that will come aviation fuel etc.

@SomethingEternal

2 жыл бұрын

@@SI0AX No. Petroleum is used in lubricants, greases, solvents, plastics and other applications that are still required by those electric tools and engines (is it a motor or an engine when we're talking EVs? I honestly don't know. From a technical standpoint, you'd think it's a motor. But it's actually whatever car companies decide to call it for marketing purposes, because that's what it'll be defined as technically 5 years down the road when everyone keeps using the term.) So there's no way that a petroleum ban is happening in our lifetime unless our ability to synthesize these things without any petroleum at all greatly increases in scale and cost efficiency. And it's not just that either, but the existing industry who refines petroleum: Do you think they'll be forced to swap their entire manufacturing to synthetic? That would cost, well, more dollars than I feel like guessing at. Don't forget the contractors who do most government construction and maintenance are using old diesel equipment: We won't be seeing them replaced outside a handful of cities pushing a proactive agenda in the next 50 years, either. Purely because cities don't like spending money to salt roads and patch potholes.. They are even less inclined to buy all new excavation equipment. Its number of applications may be reduced in the decades to come. But I don't I will live to see the day when petroleum becomes a banned resource.

What no one is talking about when it comes to the battery powered equipment is what will be done with all the waste batteries. They don't last forever and the ones used commercially won't be lasting very long (maybe 2 years tops). They will also need a lot of them. I read an article where someone tried an electric commercial mower. It was supposed to be able to operate for several hours on a charge. They only got half what it was rated for.

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

I've talked about it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ypd3k5qTntezoso.html

@dmdx86

2 жыл бұрын

Slap a core charge on the batteries that way it encourages people to bring them back for recycling.

@jaywalt1311

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmdx86 PB battery core charges make sense because they are 99% recyclable. Recycling Li batteries isn't easy yet and most manufacturers opt for virgin lithium because of that...

If I was a landscaper I would just go out of state and buy my equipment

@sunbeam8866

2 жыл бұрын

And Cali border agents will be waiting to welcome you on your return!

@glennlurman3514

2 жыл бұрын

sorry bud the manufacturers bow down to cali briggs honda echo stihl have to meet current emission standard CARE/B ? which is set in cali. even the chinese manufacturer to meet this standard.

@speedyme200

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just repairing existing equipment. 🤫🤫

@glennlurman3514

2 жыл бұрын

@@speedyme200 if stihls your thing fs85 trimmers still old school construction. Dont touch modern stihl conc saws fuel injected turds.

California banned me from registering my f-450, Going to outlaw my gaming computer because it uses to much power, Now i gotta buy a new mower.. Yet my POS neighbor can run more lights then a NFL stadium to grow weed!

OK, so landscaping businesses in CA will just keep using beat-up old lawn equipment. I'm sure that'll be MUCH better for the environment than newer equipment. 🙄

@Netherlands031

2 жыл бұрын

cheap small engines haven't changed much in the last 50 years, they're still carburated and therefore can't use a catalytic converter. I don't think it will make much of a difference that companies will use old equipment instead of new. What will happen though is that all the soccer moms going to Walmart to buy weed whackers will buy quiet electric machines, and gradually the expectation of what is a normal amount of noise and smell from lawn equipment will shift.

@davidp8627

2 жыл бұрын

Just like how the EPA has banned new oil refineries. The newest one was made in 1976, and of course keeping old, inefficient refineries is much better for the environment than new.

Governor Newsom awarded U-Haul salesperson of the year.

@scallywag1716

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt. My wife looked at a medium sized uhaul truck from California to Alabama’s. $4,000. This was about 4 months ago. Lol

@SI0AX

2 жыл бұрын

@@scallywag1716 $4,000 to rent a truck? What is the story behind this? I'm in the dark...

@scallywag1716

2 жыл бұрын

@@SI0AX lots of people leaving California; the dumpster fire of a state.

here in Canada, more specifically BC, we're already paying a carbon tax on our fuel, we've been paying this tax for about 10 years now, and our emissions in BC have actually risen, not dropped, so paying this extra tax, really doesn't "help the environment"...it does however, help the govt's "financial" environment....translation, it just goes to general revenue, and is never used to help better things...

@mikepettengill2706

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, tax credits for emissions are also a particularly greivious form of partisan politics snake oil here in the US as well. Al Gore himself started a carbon credit brokerage before he began pushing for laws that required them. Should have gotten run out of town on the bad ethics rail but no one paid attention even though it was common knowledge that he did this. We have gotten used to electing crooks. To quote the original movie Bladerunner "we are stupid and we will die".

@juliogonzo2718

2 жыл бұрын

I figured out dipshits campaign aircraft co2 emmisions. Trudeau and o'tool had airbus a319s and Singh had a 737. They all roughly burned the same amount of fuel per hour and it equated to 7500kg of co2 per hour of flight time per aircraft for the election campaign. They were flying every day for hours. But it's you who needs to change, just ask them.

@MechRider89

2 жыл бұрын

If people had a shred of brain power no one would buy electric powered anything other then hand tools, appliances etc. Electric vehicles will be dumped here and there and everywhere because when the batteries go most people will just go buy a new vehicle. We really need to invest heavily in hydrogen powered engines, they blow electric power out of the water and they're far more efficient then gas or diesel engines with Zero emissions.....

@CanadaBud23

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickg9021 Trudope and FJB. Can't really say that in North America at the moment.

@diegosilang4823

2 жыл бұрын

Carbon tax is tax the poor scheme. Oil companies and billionaires are not affected.

That state can barely keep the lights on as it is. Charging thousands of mowers daily will kill them. Got my popcorn and lawnchair ready for the show over there

@jaysmith179

2 жыл бұрын

Lets go Brandon!

@-oiiio-3993

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't you confusing California with Texas?

@sketchyssk8shop

2 жыл бұрын

@@-oiiio-3993 no. Texas had a 1 in a 100 year storm that froze the equipment. California has rolling bron and black outs year around.

Still mow my lawn with a 1974 John Deere, the mighty 110.

This will be interesting. A few years back, Los Angeles tried to enact a law about using clean fuel ( alcohol ) in landscaping equipment. The cops tried to enforce it. It raised a big stink, and was neutered by not allowing cops to physically check, only ask if the fuel being used was clean fuel. How did this happen? It was challenged on the premise that the law was really a move to harass illegal alien workers ( yes that is the legal term by law).

@baileyhatfield4273

2 жыл бұрын

So they essentially deemed it racist? I mean good that the law didn't go through really, but weird how that card was pulled. I guess its pulled all over.

@derpmansderpyskin

2 жыл бұрын

It's a lot easier to enforce a ban on the sale of ICE lawn equipment than it is to ban the use or operation of ICE lawn equipment, which I suspect is a big reason why this law is written the way it is.

Banning engines, creating ridiculous emissions standards, and driving up the cost of fuel are all part of the strategy to get people to switch to electric. The problem is that in addition to being prohibitively expensive (cars especially), electric motors still don't have the range, constancy, performance, or infrastructure to make their use feasible for the vast majority of Americans.

@jacobvanausdeln1696

2 жыл бұрын

Said the same thing about horses.

@KomotoseKomo

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobvanausdeln1696 but here we are over century later and horses are not banned

@johnrussell4954

2 жыл бұрын

The trouble is they don't give a damn what makes any sense at all. What they want to do is drive the common man out of existence. When you're making millions stealing from the public you can afford to do anything

@KomotoseKomo

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnrussell4954 one thing i dont understand and no one talks about is all the waste, this is just small engines but what if they try this on cars which are still 99% ICE. Millions of cars with no usable parts

@diegosilang4823

2 жыл бұрын

California is run by Berkley pinko liberals, they are power tripping Stalinist.

Rush is the ultimate band for car guys. I remember back in high school, hand cranking my windows and sunroof, listening to Red Barchetta.

@brianrosenlof388

2 жыл бұрын

Rush is just one of the all time great band in general!

@tomcarlson3913

2 жыл бұрын

My last visit to my 47 Olds before getting it out of storage for the summer that song came on the radio. It seemed really fitting.

@bedlamite42

2 жыл бұрын

And the trees were all kept equal by hatchet, axe, and saw ...

@jlr194

2 жыл бұрын

ZZ top is good too

@lsswappedcessna

2 жыл бұрын

Hand cranked windows, yep, that's old school!

Battery production ain’t a clean process, just saying. Good video. 👍👍

@rexman971

2 жыл бұрын

Lol they don't realize that they just see the "zero emissions" perk.

@preciadoalex123

2 жыл бұрын

They would have to use that battery for years to offset, and most will get a new one every season

@Netherlands031

2 жыл бұрын

For the workers using the small engines it's a lot cleaner for their health

@diegosilang4823

2 жыл бұрын

Internal combustion can be powered by renewable sources such as biofuels, methane gas and wood gas. Control freak pinko government don't like that.

@Buckswoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

@@diegosilang4823 👍

It only bans less than 25hp. If you have an old lawnmower that needs an engine, just bolt on a HUGE 25 hp gas guzzling replacement and go to town.

@baileyhatfield4273

2 жыл бұрын

For people who have smaller ride ons with what do they come with? 8hp? 12? Kohler engines, how do you replace that? I havn't seen electric ride ons. You just have to switch to some crappy push mower?

@graywolf2694

2 жыл бұрын

Kubota makes nice engines that are specked for 24hp, just increase fuel flow and you got 25hp

@lsswappedcessna

2 жыл бұрын

@@graywolf2694 welp time to learn how to modify an injection pump and make my tractor roll coal like a truck ricer in July.

I work for a Local Government Authority in New Zealand , we have started using Stihl and Husqvarna battery powered , hedge cutters , weed wackers and chain saws , they work just as well as the petrol powered tools ,

There statement “carb” says that a leaf blower running for one hour emits the same amount of greenhouse gasses as driving a 2017 Toyota Corolla 1,100 miles. I haven’t seen any facts of how they got this information but that’s what the news channel’s in California are saying.

@Marc83Aus

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a corolla drive 1000 miles on a gallon of gas.

@AlexanderBurgers

2 жыл бұрын

Carburated two stroke versus highly optimized catalytic converter fuel injected four stroke, I can see how emissions *other than CO2* might be much higher.

@josephdestaubin7426

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderBurgers Yes, but as you quite rightly highlighted, those emissions are not CO 2 emissions. The CO 2 of a gallon of gas being burned is the CO 2 of a gallon of gas being burned irrespective of the device that does the burning.

@AlexanderBurgers

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephdestaubin7426 There is many more greenhouse gasses than CO2, was the point. The car will basically emit none of them, that's what all the emissions systems are all about. The leaf blower on the other hand blasts out large amounts of unburned hydrocarbons (two stroke oil and often running rich on fuel), NOx and CO (no catalyst to get rid of those) Whether or not the number (1 hour v/s 1100 miles) is accurate, I wouldn't know either without calculations and the data they're based on.

@josephdestaubin7426

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderBurgers This is totally outside of my lane, but as I understand it NOx are not CO 2. That doesn't mean they're not dangerous to human health. But this bill is being sold as a global warming bill and I don't believe the math comes out. That doesn't mean they're not dangerous to human health. But this bill is being sold as a global warming and I don't believe the math pans out. In fact the math is not even close.

Soon kids aren’t gonna know the feeling of starting the lawn mower on the first pull. Shame

@randy206

2 жыл бұрын

Or in most cast the 43rd pull.

@johnstuartsmith

2 жыл бұрын

The last couple of generations never experienced the thrill of maintaining a lawn with a scythe.

@lGuileWilliamsl

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnstuartsmith We could go back to that. 0 emissions from a scythe, and it would look cool. lol

The law is 24HP and smaller, that covers most yard tractors and riding mowers. Repair parts are also banned. Im not sure if it applies to Emergency generators. Nevada, Arizona and Oregon border stores have an opportunity here.

@maxbradley9534

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hearing that I need to engine swap my saw for an old civic engine....

@motormaker

2 жыл бұрын

I see a lot of 25HP mowers in the future for California.

@whirledpeaz5758

2 жыл бұрын

@@motormaker I bet if Harbor Freight can "up tune" their Engines as 25 HP they will sell well.

@17dcolby

2 жыл бұрын

Yes this law also applies to emergency generators it effectively out laws all new internal combustion engines.

@graywolf2694

2 жыл бұрын

Repair parts is banned too? How is that legal?????

Eric made a good choice when he moved out of California.

@rayj33

2 жыл бұрын

he was never in cali dum dum

I recently got married and we bought our first house together. It's a good starter home, but has a rather small lawn. I was used to living on an acre of land with a fair amount of it being yard. I still own an acre that we plan to build our dream home on, but here we are. Point being that this yard is so small, and the space in our garage so limited, that I went with all electric lawn equipment. Those new ego things. I just couldn't justify the gas storage, the maintenance on the equipment, and all the hassle that comes with gas operated equipment with such a small lawn. I'm very happy with my purchases. On a single charge I can cut the front and back yards, using the self driving assist the entire time, and still have plenty of charge to use the weed eater to clean up the edges. Plus, the weed eater came with it's own battery and and edger attachment. And their leaf blower is out of this world strong. I think this is where we are headed, and I low key like it because that leaves more gas for my Vette and my future stoked out 72' C-10.

@TheEbanks7

2 жыл бұрын

Valid use of saved gas

@glennlurman3514

2 жыл бұрын

GM Grass manipulated so it will ownly grow to a set length. theyre working on it.

I grew up in Cali... I'm glad I left. They make everything difficult.

California sure seems to love their government. Do the rest of us a favor, stay there.

Thanks Eric! Keep up the great work. Enjoy your videos.

Recently retired landscaper here. For light use, electric stuff is great. For heavier use situations, gas engines have the power and fuel to keep going and going. Electric stuff is getting better, so in the long run it probably works out okay but it will be painful in the near term.

My primary issue is it's another law that has a "noble" goal, but will have the greatest impact on small business owners and minorities. A law written by the rich and out of touch will often miss the finer points.

Well lets hope it doesnt progress to farm equipment anytime soon. You know, the machinery we all rely on to keep us fed...

How California's electrical production situation? It'll be interesting to see how much this affects electrical demand.

@sunbeam8866

2 жыл бұрын

Especially since they sued and bankrupted PG&E, their own power company!

I'm a tree guy. Some of these ideas are interesting. What I question is, if battery technology doesn't improve exponentially, what happens when a large tree on your property gets diseased or struck by lightning and threatens your house or the neighbors? They may come up with a battery powered saw to put a 4' diameter trunk on the ground but, we have to pile up the debris and leave it on your property because we no longer have the power to move it off site. HOA's and municipalities are going to have to change some of there regulations.

@CanadaBud23

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder whats going to happen once they have a natural disaster that would require a lot of equipment to help get people out. Usually requires hours and hours of constant running for days and days gas powered equipment to save lives. I'm under a bunch of debris and all I can think of is all the equipment is battery powered and weak. Might as well make my peace and say goodbye because that shit ain't coming through.

@fakiirification

2 жыл бұрын

id say 'malicious compliance" suits the case here. "Sorry, i cant clean up this storm damage, batteries dead. You should probably call in some crews from out of state what have the gas powered tools" LOL

Hearing that lovely b18c1 masterpiece in the end will always warm my heart. I appreciate you!

@NSZ-sb6kt

2 жыл бұрын

It's the B18C5 in the R.

@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391

2 жыл бұрын

@@NSZ-sb6kt doesn't he own both... I've owned a gsr the crossover sounds pretty much the same.. theres always that one insecure person that has to try and prove their knowledge to random people on KZread lol that's not sad or anything

@NSZ-sb6kt

2 жыл бұрын

@@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391 Just letting you know, it's a sound clip of the exhaust he put on the Type R not long after he bought it. A Tanabe, I believe

Hey Eric this is bad bad science. It has already been established that the whole of life environmental impact of a Tesla or similar is actually higher than a modern low emission regular sedan type vehicle. As for battery garden gear where does the power for recharging come from the power grid! What is the generation fuel for the power grid? Not sure about Cal but world wide it's mostly fossil fuels of some sort at least in part. This is what happens when you have too many sandal wearers in a society who don't have a proper job and like nothing better to interfere in other people's lives. Bad science -do your own research by all means but let's rub this nonsense out.

Great topic, Eric. Thanks for reporting.

Eric, love the content and love the RUSH reference even Moore. I was able to see them for the first and last time on their R40 tour in Tulsa OK. Keep up the great work and enjoy the holiday season coming up

So two years after this law takes effect there going to be massive landfill fires due to the massive amount of lithium batteries accumulating and bursting. Being that a tesla car needs about 11k gallons of water to keep under control CA in for a never ending drought.

@crazeguy26

2 жыл бұрын

that's a lot of fire suppressant. water on a lithium battery fire is a NO GO looks like it makes hydrogen gas. a normal car battery makes that when charging.

The gas equipment sellers in surrounding states will like this law!

@pedlpower

2 жыл бұрын

@Hector Cortez-aponte-cabrera Good points Hector. You may see State maintenance crews hanging around roadside, waiting for their equipment to charge!

@haydn-db8z

2 жыл бұрын

Because there's no way CA could discourage this by fining people that did that? I would think they could if they wanted to.

@pedlpower

2 жыл бұрын

@@haydn-db8z How can they enforce it?

Hey I'm going to go fell that tree with my battery powered chain saw and 20 battery packs.

@nick00work

2 жыл бұрын

3 electric chainsaw and 20 battery packs later you can finally cut down that sprout that started too bad in the time it took to cut that one another 80 have grown

@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like offing myself im gonna go run my tesla in my closed garage and end it all.

@hopingforthebest1.9

2 жыл бұрын

Electric chainsaws still need bar and chain oil

@richardprice5978

2 жыл бұрын

this has to be sarcastic jokes right? that battery per-charge lasts longer than that

It's absolutely coming for passenger ICE vehicles some time in the future. However, I am a strong advocate for true sustaniability (which is often facilitated by prolonging existing equipment usage as much as possible by using and maintaining it properly), and I truly see no sense in purchasing a new vehicle - the depreciation on top of overcomplicated systems for new cars make them undesirable for me. I will still be driving used cars - it makes much more sense.

@baileyhatfield4273

2 жыл бұрын

Having cars be useless after 10 year and taking SO MUCH MORE year after year, but they will blame us for using the same engine same shell same body same everything. Getting the most out of a product. Scrapping it doesn't help. Creates emmisions scrapping it, and then you have to make a whole new one just to replace it. Throwaway culture and crappy products create this. Buy lets say a cheap spatula, oh it broke 6 months in, rinse and repeat well you're gonna have 120 or more spatulas in a lifetime, vs maybe spending 10 times that price or more lets say even 20 times, and you get one to last a lifetime, only being made once, at 120th of the emissions cost. Junk products, people getting rid of stuff that's still good and just wasteful people is the problem. Don't get me started on how a SUPER EFFICIENT older diesel ect can be getting double or more MPG but is considered worse. Apparently pollution from making the gas/diesel isn't considered. Or how the fuels need to get processed and transported on and on and on.

@faststang85

2 жыл бұрын

@@baileyhatfield4273 its a scam to make people buy a new car every 5-10 years and keep them in debt

@britsfabrication

2 жыл бұрын

@@faststang85 no it's too stop people from driving all together only the 0.01% will have cars that's the plan you'll own nothing and be happy

@AlphanumericCharacters

2 жыл бұрын

@@britsfabrication be happy? They don’t want you to be happy my friend. They want you to die.

The man who tries to stop me and mine from riding our internal combustion Harleys that man had better have his life insurance paid up.

Landscapers will have to have enough batteries to last the day. what many are not talking about is the environmental impact of not only the manufacturing of the batteries, but disposing said batteries when they finally lose their ability to charge or power equipment. It is a great concept, however mass implementation at the scale of California(and nationwide) with such a short timeline may be a bit hasty. I think we have another 10-20 years before production and the power grid to support the increase in electricity consumption can catch up. Side thought: Since small engines are the target, trying to figure out how an ALL ELECTRIC Generator will create electricity?...

@bucharestpunk

2 жыл бұрын

Simple, it's not a generator but a battery storage. There are already a few portable solutions on the market that can cover you for esentials almost a day. For example a refrigerator runs only a few minutes per cycle with cycles far apart timewise. So you can power it with a relatively small battery and invertor. In the case of a blackout you can maitain the heat of a room with an electric heater and achieve a comfortable climate for half a day or maybe a day if your house is insulated properly. It's all about adapting in the end.

@WilliamHollinger2019

2 жыл бұрын

you may be forced to use solor panels and battery back up.

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ypd3k5qTntezoso.html

@jungleking007Channel

2 жыл бұрын

@@ETCG1 I missed this video somehow, but great points!

@cory45x

2 жыл бұрын

I think Jason has some good videos out on this topic. And unlike Facebook/KZread comment sections EE has realistic figures to calculate with

How about all the small shops that make a living repairing and selling these machines?

@nobodynoone2500

2 жыл бұрын

They will do better than ever if they can get parts in a legal way. I worry more for the antique engine hobbiest guys with old hit and miss and other historical small engines that might have trouble getting parts.

I've been using the same plug in lawn mower for over 25 years, it came with this house when I bought it. Works fine, once I sharpened the blade, no complaints.

"He says it used to be a farm, before the motor law." I had a feeling you were going there.

I don't really think that law will last very long because even though I'm not a landscaper, I follow quite a few landscaping channels on KZread and one of the guys actually tried an all electric setup and the batteries didn't last at all, so again California is not thinking things through.

@southerninterloper4107

2 жыл бұрын

"California is not thinking things through." Shocking, I know. And yet...the voters keep voting for these morons who don't think things through. It's almost like they deserve the pain they're being put through.

What they law writers and makers are also forgetting is that firefighters and paramedics use small engines too. Chainsaws to cut firebreaks in forest fires and the saw and jaws of life use small engines for torque on demand to save lives.

YES!! I was about to comment before I started watching with a Rush quote...and here you are! Red Barchetta is one of the great Rush tunes of all time, IMO. You're the man!

I’ve taken soooo many dead batteries to Lowes & HD and dropped them in the “old battery” box at the front of the store. They don’t last that long, are expensive to replace and are dangerous if they swell up or are not disposed of properly. Yeah … let’s do more of this! 🙄

@MechRider89

2 жыл бұрын

hallelujah some one with a fucking brain! there's far too many people in this world with no brain, even with collage degree's its rather pathetic. Lets not even talk about the amount of damage we do gathering and processing lithium for the batteries most things use now a day's. We're not going forward we're going backwards.

@haydn-db8z

2 жыл бұрын

@@MechRider89 "college," "degrees," and "it's"

@johnstuartsmith

2 жыл бұрын

A few years ago I was always throwing away lots of burned out incandescent light bulbs until I replaced all of them with LEDs. A few of them failed early, but they've become less expensive and so reliable that I haven't needed to replace any of them. Power tool batteries are improving, too.

@jimtelford2583

2 жыл бұрын

@@MechRider89 You are absolutely right. Common sense doesn't come with a degree!!!

I live 400 miles north of the U.S. Canadain border, I can't see electric vehicles being mandated here anytime soon. Our long winters will kill battery performance. They have some issues to work out first.

A number of states have adopted CA emission standards for cars but they don't have CA gas and the refineries here don't intend to produce it. It costs about $1 more a gallon and often turns the 'service engine' light on in non CA cars, folks often see CA as the future and if that is true we'll have hell on earth.

As a Resident in North Branford Ct 10 years ago for 30 years, I heated my house with firewood from threes I culled, cut and processed. I had 5 chain saws, a log splitter and in addition, a Garden Tractor, push mower,Chipper, string trimmer and a portable generator. All were gas powered. Never could I replace that machinery with electric powered ones. When I moved to SW Florida 11 years ago I still had a 9000watt generator, Garden Tractor (I bought new in 2011) and a self propelled push mower because the grass had to be cut twice a day and the power went out frequently. I believe some of those items were sold with CA Emissions. I repaired the eqpt myself as necessary. I sometimes retuned the chainsaw carbs because the lean setting lost power. I drove a 1978 Electra 4bbl and and 85 C 10 4bbl on which I did a lean drop carb adjustment every two years to pass the CT State Emissions testing. I never failed a test.

We are still new at this battery operation, are we going to have enough raw materials to produce so many batteries...how about disposing of the old ones. What if they force us to use snow blowers that are battery operated? Batteries won't last long at 5 or 10 below...Not enough thought or testing has been done, seems like people are jumping on the bandwagon without a proven product.

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I've talked about that. Not to mention political instability that may be caused because several nations are competing for the same resources. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ypd3k5qTntezoso.html

ITS MY BIRTHDAY ERIC

@TheAirSofterblaster200

2 жыл бұрын

It’s my dogs 1st birthday today

@tacticaltrioadventure5224

2 жыл бұрын

Happy birthday

@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAirSofterblaster200 👏🎊🎉🙂I'm more likely to help a homeless man with food or money if he has a cute dog.

@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391

2 жыл бұрын

@@tacticaltrioadventure5224 grazie

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

Happy Birthday!

Thanks for sharing.

I'm 1000% for electric lawn equipment guy and extremely happy that CA passed this law. This law is perfect for home owners. However, professional gardeners & landscapers have no business using electric lawn equipments. A small gardener business would need at least 50-100 12ah batteries to get through the day.

Yay more rolling black out for the state, good job.

@MickeyMishra

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about what they were going to do about generators when the power goes out as well

A few years ago they required you to install a exhaust filter for your diesel even if it didn't come with one from the factory. Which was around 15k. My work had a massive diesel generator they couldn't run because of said filter or it was like a huge fine per day.

Even worse is they want to ban generators in a state that can't keep the power on.

Battery technology is going to have to come a long way from where it is now before I give up my gas powered lawn push mower. In my opinion small engines aren't the real issue, yes they are not helping, but there are other places that need more regulation.

@a4000t

2 жыл бұрын

Right, they ignore jet planes/prop planes with no catalytics,boats from china bring their lithium batteries/tesla car parts,etc burning dirty oils...meanwhile they are jet setting across the country on a regular basis as well as going overseas for vacations.

It's our job to be that white haired uncle.

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

So much yes! kzread.info/dash/bejne/ipp4rcqjnLGdiJc.html

Every tool has it's place. Electric(battery or corded) chainsaw is useful when cutting trees not far from home. That being said, if you have to cut a lot of trees a gasoline power chainsaw may have the advantage of time - you can fill it up and pump it up faster than charge a battery. And as far as multiple batteries go you need a lot of them and they aren't as cheap to transport as a liter of petrol. Maybe then the initial cost is higher and it's harder to start getting into the business which promotes monopolies, etc. Electric tools have their problems on a certain scale and it requires a lot of people to hire more on principle than price. Just a random ideas that come into my head for the moment.

Thanks for bringing this topic up, Eric. Personally, the noise from all those things is very upsetting to my kids. So I 'm sure others hate the noise pollution as well. I don't think the landscaping industry did anything to help themselves out here. They could have worked to make these machines quiter on their own. They could have promoted better practices for the industry, but they basically just chose to keep going the way things were. And is the plus of having some grass clippings blown into the street really worth the energy, resources and noise to have that done? I think not. Are 2 stroke motors all that bad? you tell me, but I wont miss being woken up on Sat AM from a leaf blower.

@AlphanumericCharacters

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! Not the sounds of life being lived!!! I hate it too. I also hate when I see my neighbor tooling around in his garage. Which is why I call the HOA and report him when he leaves the door open. Then last week I heard children playing outside! Ridiculous. They were riding bicycles on the sidewalk! It isn’t the sideride it is the sidewalk! It’s a hazard too. What if I walked out onto the sidewalk and the neighbors three year old ran into me on her Barbie bike? Yup! I want a noise free neighborhood where I can’t see any movement! It should look and sound like nobody ever moved onto the street. Oh yeah one last thing! A couple years ago the guy across the street had the nerve to wash his car in his driveway on a Sunday! Other than the obvious eyesore of this activity being so disturbing you should have seen the water in the gutter! Can you imagine that? Water in a gutter! I reported him too. It’s been 27 months and three weeks and I haven’t seen him do it since but I make sure to check every fifteen minutes on sundays to see if he is trying it again. It took him eighteen minutes last time so I think the fifteen minute interval is sufficient not to miss seeing him do it. It’s much easier to monitor the neighborhood for anything annoying now that I have cameras. I don’t have to spend half the day staring out the blinds anymore. And then going from window to window for better angles.

@Network126

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlphanumericCharacters 🤣

@B58_Bless

7 ай бұрын

Bruhh

California is insane, I know I live here. I have an electric blower for my home but I can see why mechanical ones would be needed for commercial use as they go from place to place and would need a shit ton of batteries otherwise. I also owned a portable power generator for when the power goes out. yes there is solar and tesla batteries but $1000 is way less than 20-30k especially when it only happens occasionally and most people are renters not owners anyways here.

@juliogonzo2718

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the generator thing is stupid. Very unstable electrical grid, better ban generators. Makes sense lol your "solar generator" will run your refrigerator for not long. I feel sorry for you guys, and I am living in a Californian style country (canada)

@jaysmith179

2 жыл бұрын

Lets go Brandon!

My biggest question is how Is this gonna affect the commercial businesses having to run around all day mowing lawns and doing all sorts of things and keeping batteries charged.

Then there will be laws against having lithium batteries because it is bad for the enviroment. Might as well get out the manual reel type push mower just like the 19th century. I'm not living in CA anytime soon.

@swolebro

2 жыл бұрын

Don't give them any ideas!

thanks eric for all these information. please keep us updated on new issues affecting the automotive industries. i think they should really get rid of these small 2 strokes equipment.

Great video

Not a landscaper but I’ve been manscaping for years! Not myself, but my neighbor says I’m a natural with sheep sheers when he’s asleep.

Those electric mowers are great on a small perfectly manicured lawn. Anything else forget about it

Waited for my birthday to watch, thanks for the cake!

I swear every day is my birthday because Eric the car guy tells me every time in his videos 👌🏻

Looks like it's time to get some goats to graze the grass down. But, they'll soon give tickets for those goats for emitting methane gas.. Oh, the horror. It never ends... 😂

@slumpnmyrump4986

2 жыл бұрын

In the future we'll have emission devices installed in us to filter out our farts

@sparcnut

2 жыл бұрын

@@slumpnmyrump4986 Who's "we"? They ain't puttin' that slump in MY rump!

@markfurman4386

2 жыл бұрын

Funny funny.funny!

what is generating the electricity to charge those battery’s ? We need to develop new power sources if we are going to battery’s. Does make scents to make power with coal just for a battry

I just read in the bill that there is an "expected availability of zero emissions generators." Oh really? What, an electrically powered generator? Wait a minute, miniature nuclear generators! It would cost thousands of dollars to install solar panels and a battery to replace an emergency generator for a house, and what about the portability of a solar array? They also don't work very well at night. Yes, I was born and raised in the State of Confusion (California). Currently, a low priced ARCO not too far away is $4.35 for regular. We lived in Yuma Arizona for 8 years, and the ARCO we used there is currently $3.25 per gallon. California is also looking at a 2¢ per mile tax on driving. The Southern California SANDAG regional transportation board is considering an additional 2¢ per mile tax.

I expect 25,000 landscapers to show up in Sacramento with their lawn mowers and leaf blowers a revving to demonstrate against the proposal.

About to jam out to the Moving Pictures album after this thanks Eric!! Rock on!!

@timothyball3144

2 жыл бұрын

Just here to post to the first comment I found with this reference. RIP Neil. Edit: I posted this before watching the video.

I get the idea behind it but the market should be the one controlling it. Some handle held equipment have catalytic converters on them now why not let small engine manufacturers come up with a cleaner solution. But vilifying and outlawing one technology is a bit hasty if the long term effects of the of the other hasn't been fully disclosed.

you just got a new sub, just for the reference for my favorite song by my favorite band.

@ETCG1

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

As being in the landscape/lawn maintenance industry, battery powered isn't for commercial use. I know of someone who decided to go electric, he's now struggling. 30k for a commercial electric mower, almost 10k in electric edgers, weed whackers, blowers. 18-20 houses a day, edgers only last for 6 at a time, and charging is a nightmare. This will cause California lawn care owners to buy over state lines and keep on chugging along with gas powered.

Watch 'The Last Chase'. It's a 1981 movie staring Lee Majors that immediately came to mind when referencing the robots chasing down the fossil fuel powered vehicles. It actually fits this topic quite well. If you can dismiss the dated 'futuristic' grainy scenes and appreciate the story that actually starts to fall close to home in these times.

@thewizzard3150

2 жыл бұрын

Lee majors as a robot is that type casting.

I think another important question people have to ask themselves is: Should you trust politicians?

@YoutubeLovesCowards

2 жыл бұрын

Let's go Brandon! Of course you CAN'T

@whirledpeaz5758

2 жыл бұрын

What do you call 1000 politicians at the bottom of the ocean? A good Start.

@Chevy-hw6lw

2 жыл бұрын

Now we’re getting somewhere .

@MarioDallaRiva

2 жыл бұрын

Make sure to vote for (true) car enthusiasts!

@tapps1010

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone knows you don't trust elected politicians. You should trust random, faceless idiots on the internet instead ! (LOL)

when i was 6 or 7 i asked my grandpa if it would be illegal to run an engine one day and he told me no and implied that was a stupid question.

I'm glad you mentioned the song. California legislation has reminded me of that multiple times again here recently. also, good taste in music my man

This week's "digital confection" reminds me of Homer Simpson's favorite doughnuts - pink icing with sprinkles.

@LAactor

2 жыл бұрын

You should look at what he gave you for the #ihatesuvs video 🤔

@sandasturner9529

2 жыл бұрын

Off the wall laugh

In 2035 we won't be able to buy new internal combustion engines here in Cali, it's crazy how we use something that helps create what we have to today and then are quick to turn our backs to it. We should start with hybrids then eventually work our way to all electric vehicles.

@jameshoward2738

2 жыл бұрын

We did start with hybrids and are eventually working to all electric. You could buy a hybrid Toyota Prius 21 years ago (even longer in Japan), then there's another 14 years until California can't buy new ICEs. That's a 35 year transition period in the fastest responding state in the US only. I'm a petrol head, and I daily drive a Challenger scat pack in the UK, but I don't think we can justify a longer transition period than 35 years.

@omar_padilla

2 жыл бұрын

@@jameshoward2738 i understand but as far as the infrastructure at least here in the u.s. goes we're not ready. I don't think that realistically we can be ready in 14 years because you know how human nature is we wait until the last minute to do something. But i do agree that that's the future.

Actually not robots chasing him, but affluent folks in giant futuristic cars called "Modern Safety Vehicles" with drivers who had fun knocking less capable cars off the road. The story of the song was influenced by a short story called "A Nice Morning Drive" - A quote from that story: "It hadn’t taken long for the less responsible element among drivers to discover that their new MSVs could inflict great damage on an older car and go unscathed themselves. As a result some drivers would go looking for the older cars in secluded areas, bounce them off the road or into a bridge abutment, and then speed off undamaged, relieved of whatever frustrations cause this kind of behavior." 🙃

"I wonder if this is a prelude to things to come in the automotive industry." Wow, what an insight you have.

RUSH yes great band seen them thrice and feel lucky for it!

Well...I lived in California most of my adult life....n...yes sometimes I really hate the way the state comes up with environmental laws n regulations that seem to make everything so complicated....but I'm also a truck driver and I have been all over...n I know that even with the outstanding effort the state is making to improve air quality, the major cities in CA r basically choking in air pollution....so I'd have to say at least CA is not ignoring the issue...n u c in other major cities around the US, bcus of geographical landscapes, the air pollution is spread out so that the population isn't as aware about it as the people of CA r....but that's just my thoughts...r/

@FerasAlhawas

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest a lot of Americans drive massive cars and engines just to drive around town which is a big part of the problem

@LuisHernandez-bh8cg

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccox7198 don't think I would bliv u...

@cory45x

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccox7198 yes Hawaii and Alaska are swimming in all that Asia air pollution...

@apctech1

2 жыл бұрын

@@FerasAlhawaslike middle aged men and scocer moms who drive alone but must have the biggest SUV she can buy for the look at me iam a power mom i have status its sickening

According to the Green New Deal, SORE could also stand for small on road engine's.

At this point I'm almost glad this is happening in just California and on such a small scale to be just lawn equipment. I can see certain things functioning just fine off of electric power, such as leaf blowers and Weed Wackers. But for bigger things like lawnmowers or riders... It starts to get sketchy in my opinion. But before California starts to completely ditch internal combustion engines. They really need to get their electric grid sorted out. I have family that live in California they say the power is awful. Rolling brown and blackouts especially in the summer because of all the Air-conditioning loads. I don't think California is ready for all their infrastructure to be switched completely over to electric for at least 25 more years.

Also does not mean that they can’t go to a power equipment dealer outside of California but I wanted to bring them back in and use them it does not affect their use

I see a whole new business popping up next year. Buy used gas powered lawn equipment all over the country and sell it in California.😂😂

@fastinradfordable

2 жыл бұрын

ESP if you want the feds looking for you and you retire to con college.

@saltyboot1354

2 жыл бұрын

@@fastinradfordable the feds wouldn't care, it's a California issue. You can expect CHP to pull you over like they do with guys who go over state lines to buy ammo. God Bless America.

@SilverBullet93GT

2 жыл бұрын

that's how we can reboot the Trailer Park Boys, someone call them!

@benjaminkline4855

2 жыл бұрын

Nope California small engines have different emissions. Several even have catalytic converters. Your not gonna find a lot of that anywhere else in the country

@cullenmiller8170

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminkline4855 I think you missed the point, It's about bringing used pre-emission equipment into California.

The very thing that needs to happen with battery powered tools in order to speed the transition from combustion engines is that they need to all agree on a universal battery pack. we did well with A, AA, AAA, C, D, so why not universal 12V, 14V, 18V, 20V, 48V, and so on. proprietary power tool battery's can pound sand, it limits consumer choice.

As a 30 year rental equipment employee, this is totally expected and not the first attempt to clean up non-road based machinery. Honda has already designed and implemented an electric replacement that goes in place of its most common gas engines (smaller GX series), and Stihl has fully embraced electric machines (which we do rent, and work AMAZINGLY). As you said, it will be interesting to see what comes next, but at some date there has to be turning point. That said, the rule of life is and always has been, "Change is inevitable, adapt or die!" so we will be working hard to flow into this new normal. I myself as our head mechanic am actually looking forward to this change as it will GREATLY reduce the headache that ethanol gas and moisture/storage has wrought upon our small engine fleet over the last 20 years. Also, as with the diesel off-road emission registry system we have participated in for the last 10 plus years, its unlikely to be much enforcement for a while after implementation. The diesel reg. system merely requires us to add newer/cleaner machines while slowly selling off our dirtier one so as to maintain a certain ratio. It was the same 20 years ago when 2 stokes started sprouting catalysts and the 4-stroke MIX machines popped up to replace the majority of pure 2-cycles. There will always be detractors and complainers among enthusiasts ( I myself love hotrods, cars, bikes and machines) but this is business, we still have to work, and survive, and move forward, and learn. There will always be something to fix, no matter how the machine changes......