Self sustainability of neuvi is insane

Remember that Furina loses a 25% damage buff from being on the field. Then she loses 10% damage bonus for every missing team mate. Then she loses damage from acquiring her stacks slower without a team. So that is -55% bonus damage outright, and probably around another -30% (guessed) from the loss of fanfare. So if she was actually on Yelan and Neuvillette's level solo, she would be beyond broken with a full team.

@dashima

2 ай бұрын

Yep, her true value is with a full team (with any of the other 2 in fact).

@_.lakshyaaa

Ай бұрын

Bro nuevilette just lost his main source of damage his 3 stacks which gives him 42% cd 160% dmg bonus

@user-dh3tu5np6n

Ай бұрын

@@_.lakshyaaa No. It is a 60% max bonus because he is going from 100% (non boosted damage) to 160%. I wouldn't call that his main source of damage, that's a bit of an exaggeration. And he is still doing elemental reactions because of enemy shields and natural elements, so he still had 3 stacks for the fights.

@w444rbv

15 күн бұрын

No with c6 you use maréchaussée And you max fanfare with c6, neuvilette also needs teemates and yelan also gains hp from diffrent teammates so it's around the same loses

@user-dh3tu5np6n

14 күн бұрын

@@w444rbvthe build is shown to be golden troupe in the video. They all scale off HP so no point in noting one of them doesn’t have hydro resonance. And I already pointed out in a previous reply that Neuvilette does not need team mates for his passive because he triggers reactions off the enemies shields and natural element statuses. Then in regards to Yelan, she will hit harder solo because she will be buffing herself with her ultimate-instead of another on fielder.

nice seeing the 3 best 5* hydro characters compete against each other!

@daydream164

5 ай бұрын

also use marechaussee on furina for her c6 bc its better for her c6

Its funny how everyone on the comments is offended about Furina not doing good lol

@Seraph_op

5 ай бұрын

because it wasn't fair sacrificial is strong but her articfacts are legit trash

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

Her artifacts are the best of all 3 of them. If you want, I can show you a 78/290 CV Furina run, but she outright clears even slower than with sacrificial sword.

@TroubleisHere

5 ай бұрын

Because furina mains are cry babies like furina herself

@86soulx

5 ай бұрын

if Furina doing as well as the other two then hoyo made a huge blunder. because at C6 Furina is the best support in this game by far, no one even come close.

@naninun

5 ай бұрын

Hahaha

is yelan mono hydro faster than yelan vaporize ? cause if you look up the speedrun of isilias with c6 furina and yelan it was so much faster.

@mixedmaniac7957

2 ай бұрын

more than mono hydro.... that's probably more to do with how insane of a support Furina is while also maintaining good damage numbers as well.

@Poohbear6

2 ай бұрын

@@mixedmaniac7957moon hydro can run better supports and vaporize is inconsistent

I plan to C6 my yelan too. could you help me clear some things ? - is her C6 as good as they say ? 30-40k per barb honestly doesn't look that impressive - i currently have c1r1 yelan. How many pulls do you generally need to get 5 copies? i will have around 450-480 wishes saved up if she reruns in 4.7, do you think it's enough ? - i see you're still using emblem, how does 2pc 2pc compare ? - how about ER ? or we simply don't care it looks like her teams one rotate everything with no immune phase lol

@dashima

2 ай бұрын

Her C6 is still one of the best in the game, but it'll do less than recent C6 hypercarries (Hyv finally making very good constellations on Fontaine carries). However, unlike on-field DPS/hypercarries, she can be slotted as a support on many teams while still doing very high amounts of damage. It's very similar to Furina's constellation value, except Yelan does even more personal damage but less supportive flexibility than Furina. - It sounds likely, unless you get very unlucky. You should be able to including the refunded wish starglitter unless your luck is very below average. - 2pc2pc will do more upfront damage on barbs and skill, but less damage on burst and hinders er requirements sometimes. - On solo, she still needs a decent amount of ER imo (~160%) but in a full team comp situation she needs much less. Usually her best supports are also hydro units like XQ or Furina who produce a nice amount of energy for her.

How much better would furina perform with Dehya on the team? Like, don't switch to het at all, just leave her on a second slot. Won't her hp drain + self healing help furina indirectly and passively to get more dmg bonus?

Neuvillette it’s best dps in the game

Err Furina with her own weapon instead of a second class 4* maybe?

@dashima

3 ай бұрын

It doesnt clear much faster like you'd imagine, it's occasionally slower. I'll remake this video when I obtain her signature.

why is lower refine sac better than r5? and if so which refine is ideal?

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

R1-R2 is better just because it lines up better with her skill cooldown. At higher refinements, sometimes you'll get an unlucky sacrificial proc when there's ~4 seconds left on skill which essentially wastes the proc.

Neuvillette is role DPS and why you compare with role support

@haris6523

5 ай бұрын

that mean those two are very good consider getting compared to current best dps

@finnthedog5321

5 ай бұрын

These are the most powerful hydro characters in the game. Why not?

@user-hw1ln3ry9q

5 ай бұрын

the c6 of furina has a dps role...and she is not dps so its hoyoverse problem so useless c6...they use c6 for dps as more dps...so why they dont make c6 of support making more support ?? it's dumb move from them.

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

I think she does really well for a character that isn't meant for on field most of the time. People often compare these 3 Hydro C6s as all 3 have very potent C6s. It's worth considering that in team comp runs at the end, she's in both of their teams, simply one of the best buffers for hydro carries.

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

@@user-hw1ln3ry9q it's not a useless c6 are you dumb? it lets her save an entire team slot so you don't need a healer and is free damage literally think and you have the option of running her as a dps

That's insane

to see a character released 2 years ago in patch 2.7 get compared against the latest, greatest and strongest dps in the game makes me happy. Yelan is still relevant! I love her

Look how furina do compare with dps and sub. Amazing, thanks bro ❤

Yelan complete Embelm C6? This causes it to lose a lot of DPS. This happens because its HP is only 30K, which is a very low base for the build to scale the damage from C6 and Skill rupture. Furina using Sacrifice? Wouldn't it be better to use a reload clock and your 5* weapon, preferably your BIS weapon which would have better results, not to mention that you are using support artifacts for Furina's DPS function, the entire time she is on the field you don't get any benefit of 4 pieces of this artifact.

@Poohbear6

2 ай бұрын

Sacrificial is better in this situation because her skill is how she gets her c6 and her 4 piece isn’t just off field it still gives you more when on field

c6 Neuv would take all the fun out of my game tbh C0 is arguably already doing that

Furina c6 could be much better, its burst of continuous damage is very strong but it lacks consistency, it's just a measly 6 attacks... And you have to wait a damn 20 seconds... If instead of 6 attacks, its infusion lasted all the 10 seconds, they would be much better, instead of 10 seconds or 6 attacks... It is definitely not suitable for abyss solo playing, it is strong but lacks consistency.

Yelan was lacking so much energy, she's a beast Solo 😢😢

Why didn't you use the pneuma attacks with furina? I understand that they are her biggest source of damage when you vape her.

@jeffisabeast9

5 ай бұрын

They did use the pneuma normal attacks

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

I did.

@naninun

5 ай бұрын

The dragon won, cry now 😂

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

no one brought up neuvillete? His C6 is still worse because furina is at the same time the best support in the game and even he wants her@@naninun

@naninun

4 ай бұрын

@@avokonkwo cry now?😭😭

Why'd you caped Yelan? Yelan C6 should be using the 2HP-2Hydro. She no longer using the 4 pieces set of emblem for C6 condition😢

you didn't run effectively with the final neuvi comp. you really didn't need the supports to take that much of field time,instead you need neuvi to be on field as long as possible to max out his dps. that's why in your solo run he was far beyond those two but in team yelan was on pair with him. also c2 baizhu would be faster cuz he needn't on field time at all😊

@FrangyRD

2 ай бұрын

The reason why both Yelan and Neuvillette did practically the same time was because he put them in the parts of the abyss where they were only single-target enemies. XD

why my c0 furina does better than your c6? am i dream. from what i remember i have got trash build for furina.

@dashima

2 ай бұрын

Yeah you're dreaming

Why furina have sacrificial

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

Best performing solo weapon for Furina c6, at least in this abyss cycle

@aki7246

5 ай бұрын

@@dashima I sse

@rancepolicarpio7644

5 ай бұрын

​@@dashima where can you see the data?

@user-hw1ln3ry9q

5 ай бұрын

@@rancepolicarpio7644 i think its not about data but he tried a lot of runs using different weapons and sacrificial was his best when solo c6 in this abyss

Neuvellite is a hypercarry Yelan is SS+ tier dps Furina is SS+ tier support The comparison isn't even plausible The neuvilette vs yelan makes sense but furina?!!! Nevermind

@bortprime1

2 ай бұрын

yelan is an off-field support

@ayanobadass949

Ай бұрын

Yes but she was considered the best dps at c6 until fontaine

@farhanmandal6898

Ай бұрын

@@ayanobadass949 she was considered??? Wdym? With neuvi and yelan to compare with, who in the world would consider her a main dps?

Dunno. Furina's teamcomp looks weird

Ah yes, main dps vs subdpses, imagine who would win

@dashima

Ай бұрын

You'd be surprised how many ppl say c6 Furina has the best DPS in the game, over other c6s

next all 3 but on mobile lol

Is that favonious sword 😂

@dashima

4 ай бұрын

No 🤣

at least give your furina a 5 star weapon

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

Sacrificial clears much faster, I did a separate run with her on a couple different 5star weapons and sacrificial does better.

@Seraph_op

5 ай бұрын

@@dashima fair point but golden troupe?... at least make it fair by using neuvillettes set, swapping artifacts ain't hard

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

I'll do that next time! To be honest, my marachausee hunter sets are really terrible, I only have great golden troupe sets right now.

@naninun

5 ай бұрын

Keep cry on a fake archon😂

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

@@dashima no it doesn't key of khaj nisut with jean mona bennett furina clears faster than you did

If giving team for Furina,nevillite and yelan,u will see the faster is Furina

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

The last part shows teams, the fastest clears might contain Furina but Furina dps herself is not the fastest because the setup for vape frankly takes awhile

@user-yuzhe

5 ай бұрын

@@dashima ...i very difficult to reading english nvm i will see video again

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

@@dashima because you used a bad team everyone knows her standard c6 vape team is her jean bennett and mona

Bro forgot to use Yelan CA☠️☠️☠️

@qwerasdf-oy6uo

2 ай бұрын

he didn't. yelan CA is simply to slow to use outside of C6 procs. You'll lose dice throws doing CAs

@Lilithmorningstarq

Ай бұрын

@@qwerasdf-oy6uo nah you won’t I will even make Yelan goes faster at the 5 hit click double R and Yelan animations will reset it will even give you more dice

зачем при сравнении персонажей ставить этих же персонажей в одну команду...

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

Check the ending, I do!

furina canr heal herself while doin dmg so haha...😅😅 well ill say neuv is far stronger than furina (solo) am a furina main but i own neuv also 😊

Latest characters are being too good compared to the old ones. And the gap is increasing to an unfair level!

see how supports are compared to dps😂

تسوق امها معطي فورينا ازق بيلد وتسولف؟ ايه نيوفليت ويلان اقوى بس فورينا مو بهالسوء ، جاب العيد بالبيلد

Nice content! It's so much fun see all Furina's fanboy crying 😅

@savageaf1943

5 ай бұрын

why are they crying?

@lucianapereira7577

5 ай бұрын

@savageaf1943 because people don't accept that Furina did not surpassed the previous hydro dps.

@savageaf1943

5 ай бұрын

@@lucianapereira7577 best buffer with insane dps capabilities that's too good enough tho. nuevi is lore accurate biggest advantage for me is the FLOOD SPAMING AOE. hoyo want to kill yelan for marketing purpose.

@lucianapereira7577

5 ай бұрын

@savageaf1943 yeah I agree she's an amazing buffer I have her on my Xiao team and it's pretty awesome.

@user-yuzhe

5 ай бұрын

The c6 neuvillette will cry in future when the numerical inflation ,but c6 Furina can play until the genshin end lol

hahaha I love how everyone is discussing furina even though it is more focused on buffering and not sub dps or dps itself and yet it is competing with the best dps in the game hahaha

not to be rude but objectively you did a terrible furina showcase in the full teams section

@gamesphoenix1038

4 ай бұрын

Nah he did a wonderful showcase youre just ofended because Furina was outperformed. She cannot compare do Neuvillette on solo showcases its not even close. BTW its on the title this is a solo showcase, I believe youre crying about the team showcase wich youre probably only considering single target (Bosses) wich is the only scenario where furina stand a chance, any multi wave or AOE (this represents 50%+ of the abyss/events) and shes steped on all over again. Furina is strong as fuck but people have to stop dreaming and realise Neuvillete is just above that he is Celestia level.

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

@@gamesphoenix1038 you realize that for speedrun on the bosses, neuvillete's times are way slower than Furina right? This showcase was objectively bad the team was wacky the rotation was bad she has a standard c6 vape team stop lying. 50% of the game is aoe is a joke the only events that are ever hard are the single target boss ones and abyss is like half single target. Also if you are on console neuvilette's aoe damage drops a hefty amount while furina does not change and she can support any dps unlike neuvilette go cope and cry somewhere else while you like neuvilette's boots

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

@@gamesphoenix1038 there are several furina runs where she clears in like a third of this guy's time it's objectively bad stop being mad at me

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

@@gamesphoenix1038 I never even referenced the solo portion why are you mad bruh

@no_game_no_life8884

Ай бұрын

@@avokonkwo💀

Fontaine is to lucky to have 4 hydro archons bro

@dashima

3 ай бұрын

Lady Furina, Furina de Fontaine, Focalors, Regina of All Waters

c6 yelan is better than a full 5 star team with signatures. i rather go for her c6 than option nr.2

@Zenx_KZ

3 ай бұрын

Do u know? when will yelan get return?

@1mol831

2 ай бұрын

@@Zenx_KZ skipping yelan.

@BestKazuhaFan

Ай бұрын

@@1mol831elaborate on who asked? you’re so poor you can’t even get a good character

@1mol831

Ай бұрын

@@BestKazuhaFan I just dislike her design

Poor furina main, getting scam by fake archon

@dashima

5 ай бұрын

But she's an excellent character. On-field DPS especially solo DPS is not her main role but she can still perform.

@RealityCheck0210

5 ай бұрын

c6 furina healer/dps /buffer too broken

@naninun

5 ай бұрын

@@RealityCheck0210 c6😂😂😂

@maximumplayer8849

5 ай бұрын

@@RealityCheck0210 Yea like c6 noelle.

@avokonkwo

4 ай бұрын

there is literally a video up of c6 furina doing asimon in 10 seconds which is over twice as fast as in the video and 5 seconds faster than neuvilette :)