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@demianthony2728

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I'm seriously considering buying either the 2012 bmw 650i convertible or 2012 audi A7 prestige here I the US but I don't want a car that I'll have to dump plenty of money into in repairs. BMW has 64.5k miles 3 owners. Audi has 106k miles with 2 owners. Which would you advice I buy?

one of best looking bmw ever made

@jondoyle44

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best car on the road bar none.... IMHO

@dhawk718

3 жыл бұрын

@@jondoyle44 totally agree

@brennenlancashire2465

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a 5 series, then a Z4, then a 4 series, I have now got a 6 series Gran Coupe, and as you say it’s the most beautiful of all the BMW range, that’s why they made the 8 series look so similar, because it’s so beautiful,

@IcyBrown

2 жыл бұрын

Timeless design, thats for sure

@toraw4tv1

Жыл бұрын

The grand coup and i8 are the baddest bmw to grace the roads

I'm so glad you mentioned the problem with the driver's seat. I thought I was going crazy as I could feel a slight movement or flick on some corners. No matter how many times I took it to BMW (still under warranty), they kept telling me there was nothing wrong. Three years later, I now learn it wasn't my imagination and it is a common issue. Thanks brother!

@lastone7179

4 жыл бұрын

Adam Stokes brother I swear this is happening to my E90 LCI, so squeaky and rattling seats!

@NinjaWarriorDude416

4 жыл бұрын

so what did you do Adam?

@wholeNwon

4 жыл бұрын

So, you had it fixed under warranty, right? BTW, Adams-Stokes.

@adamstokes

4 жыл бұрын

@@lastone7179 - I'm surprised the bmw technicians don't know about it. Or maybe they do but don't say anything

@Dorian636

3 жыл бұрын

so what should we do if the Teflon grease is not helping?

I own a 640i from 2013. Best car I have ever owned so far. No issues, alot of power with low consumption. In sports mode with manual gear selected it's like a true racing car. I don't know in which countries this is worth 25k but where I am from they cost 45k euro right now with average of 80.000 kilometres. I would absolutely advise this car above the Mercedes and audi

@ArkadyRenko1

4 жыл бұрын

In UK 2013 640i is £12,000 to £14,000.

@lastone7179

4 жыл бұрын

It costs 25k in Eastern Europe and in other countries where they barely have any maintenance and run like shit!

@shawnskates

2 жыл бұрын

I know its 2 years later but would you still recommend?

@ApeNutz

2 жыл бұрын

@shawnskates buy what you can afford and what fits your situation. I have a child now so I swapped to an x5

@Davidf_

2 жыл бұрын

What was its consumption in city?

Wow... you really mentioned everything with this car. I have a 2012 with 124,000 miles 😳. Ever issue I’ve had you mentioned. Really good

@gvidux555

3 жыл бұрын

which parts you changed and how much it cost?

I bought my 2014 BMW 650 gran coupe earlier this year, and have had no problems. I LOVE this 650. It is quiet and smooth around town and on the highway. It has plenty of power on demand for highway performance (450 HP) The design makes it the best looking BMW ever -- full stop! The leather interior is gorgeous and high quality. And the BANG & OLUFSEN Danish sound system makes this a rolling concert hall. I am downloading my favorite audio CDs into the Juke Box which can store 40,000 sound tracks. My friends are all jealous. One friend guessed this was a 2021 BMW. I said: "Wrong Dude! This is a 2014 - and you too can buy a gently used 650 for about $30,000. The price of a Toyota. BARGAIN! You only live once. The BMW 650 will change your life.

Extremely informative! Thanks!!! I may go with the 640i now, and good to know 2013 is a good start point. Good stuff, very useful.

Another great detailed review and useful buying criteria. Thanks

I love your reviews! So much useful information. Great job!

Superb review Bud. Really comprehensive and very informative and helpful prior to a purchase.

I am only 30 seconds into the video and am already smiling and laughing. I can't wait to finish this one. Thanks for making it!

Best review ever!

Probably one of the best review videos on this make and model you covered the real things people want to hear about well done!

You are 100% right about the 20” rims not working well with the run flats. I go through at least one tire every 2000 miles. If you hit a bump, you would swear you ran over a bowling ball! It sends a shockwave through the vehicle that makes you cringe and usually results in a bubble on the side of the tire. I heard changing to non run flats is a huge improvement.

@hondaV6rida

5 жыл бұрын

there's a guy on KZread that made a video "Why I Hate My BMW 650 Gran Coupe" and in it, he discusses the issue with the run flats and his remedy...

@jukkarinta8670

3 жыл бұрын

No matter where you drive, a new tyre in 2000 miles is not normal - unless you have a major puncture that is. Get your wheel alignment checked. I’ve had 20” Michelin PS4S since new, 16,000 km and they have probably similar distance left in them (rears, fronts probably more)...

what an absolutely amazing review. thanks for all the insights - will be looking out for those when going for mine

Contemplating getting it preowned ....good video thanks for the review

Thanks to this video that it cleared all my doubts which had formed by watching videos on other channels and people mentioning some issues and the other person mentioning other issues. I couldn’t rely on that information. Great video keep it up

One of the best videos made on this car for those looking to buy. Thanks!

Very detailed review (especially good tip about avoiding cars with performance upgrades - it’s an indicator of possible heavy driving). Anyone who is in the market for a 6 series, or has recently bought a used one, should watch this video. In my opinion, buyers should avoid the 650i through the 2012 model - I’d only buy a 650i 2013 or later.

I've owned my 2015 640i GC Xdrive for about 3 years. It's been trouble free. Great car for long trips. Only issue I have had to date (beside the seat moving a bit on the frame) is an intermittent "Left Low Beam Fault" message with the Adaptive LED headlights. Turning the headlights off then back on solves the problem. I have experienced this fault 4-5 times since I've owned the car.

One of the very best f12/13/14 buyer's guide on YT. Cheers!

Great review! Very helpful! thanks!

Your videos are always informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work.

Had zero problems in 2 years in my 2013 640d.. a real bargain now

@bradanddonnamccann5212

5 жыл бұрын

I have the same car and concur. Only issue I had was a warped front brake disc. Very unusual and not sure how it happened but replaced now and the car is as good as new. Only thing I recommend is to ditch the run flat tyres it makes a massive improvement on the ride.

@paulmifka89

5 күн бұрын

Do you still have your bmw 640d? Any issues?

Now that's a review!!!

Thax very good and informative video. Keep it up 👊

Excellent review. Thank you.

the video i was looking for!

Thanks for this. Great presentation.

Great job on the video thank you

Unbelievable helpful advice in this Video. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐. Thanks for making. We done sir. 👍👏👏👏

Great video. I have owned two 650i Gran Coupes (i lost the 1st in a flood) and loved them both. The windows are definitely an issue...more specifically the auto-up function. And high oil consumption affected both of my cars. If I can go back in time, I'd buy this car all over again.

@demolisherOfMoney

5 жыл бұрын

Nabad Reynoso currently got a 2018 650i Gran Coupe , and boy does it perform

Would love to see an E63 BMW 6 series buying guide, thanks for the videos!

great information, subscribed

Thanks for the tips, the one at 3:00 I didn't know about, I did it today when changing my oil & filter, and yes there was wet crap built up in there, I could see the dirt on the yellow cover, about half way up it,,,, thanks again

Amazing video well done

This guy does so much research omg thx

great video!

I felt lucky to find a 640 I because around here, most people go for the V8. I was warned against it by a BMW mechanic who told me that the V8s had problems because, since the hood (bonnet) is so low there isn’t enough room for the intake system. So they put those components between the the V8 cylinder banks... where it’s very hot. This leads to a lot of problems. Actually I was delighted to hear that because I am a long-time fan of the straight 6; best naturally balanced engine design. I had an E 36 coupe, straight six for 20 years and loved that silky smooth engine. The only thing I don’t like about my 2015 640 is Gran Coupe is the run flats combined with the 20” wheels. They look great but they’re terrible for the ride. My 20 year old E36 with 16 inch wheels and regular radial tires has a better ride on rough roads. I’m constantly in fear of damaging the rims when I hit a pot hole. A nerve shattering BAM! And I’m sure I have a bent rim. Uncomfortable and nerve wracking.

@smoothone1472

5 жыл бұрын

Do you have any problems with the 640 gran coupe since you bought it?? I'm thinking about getting a 640i gran coupe, I know that the 650 v8 Cylinder will have more problems because it's V8.

@zali9657

Жыл бұрын

Yeah same I'm thinking of getting a 640 any seat problem mentioned in the video

Love u Man U r a life saver thanks

Excellent video

Great video.

wish there were reviews like this to all cars in the market, would make buying way more easier👍🏼

Spot on, Thanks Guv'Na!

Best review ever

640d engine timing chain, tensioners and other parts related to this, should be replaced after 200kkm and oil change should be done every 8-10kkm, otherwise engine failure might occur

Still have my 2017 650. M package. 🔥

most comprehensive analysis

best chanel on youtube 100%

Thanks so much for this review, looking at the V8 650 and seems a fabulous car with wonderful sound. Not quite so sure now but the 650i seems also to be a fairly rare car possibly. Wonderful shape and a real head turner so I am informed.

Great video, I’ve owned a 645i for four years now and have been looking for a replacement. The twin turbo V6 petrol looks a good option.

Ive had mine 6 years, and the only fault was the LHD steering column plastic cover was letting water into the footwell. I drilled a bigger hole into the cover over that and also siliconed the yellow plastic blocker, never had a problem since. I will add mine is the 640d so there was room to get to it from above. I imagine if you have a V8 it would be much more difficult to do

Best car reviews

I like the 5, 6, 7 series alot.👍

What is your opinion of the Ford Focus 1.6 tdci engine and also the Ford Mondeo? Is there any common issues?

wtf...you are a psychic i was just looking at the car foor a couple of months thank you so much... been lookin for CLS, a7, panamera or this 6 series

@jsmabry357

5 жыл бұрын

YOUNG KING he read my mind too! I’m in the same situation

@youngking3969

5 жыл бұрын

@@jsmabry357 im leaning more on the panamera because of the crazy interior.. but the 6 series wins at outside looks

@jsmabry357

5 жыл бұрын

YOUNG KING I heard the Porsche has engine problems

@youngking3969

5 жыл бұрын

@@jsmabry357 v6 too?

@jsmabry357

5 жыл бұрын

YOUNG KING he’s got a video talking about them

What a beautiful car , but I'm still not sure weather to buy this one or the older one with the e62 engine ???Thanks

You are VW of reviews, keep up the good work!

Around how many miles do you typically see problems start too arise?

great informational videos! Keep it up man!

Im at the Cross Road either to buy 640d grand coupe, or porches Panamera or Masrati Diesel here in UK for business use, please advise as don't want to deal with big issues

Found one of these going for £11k and I'm seriously tempted but the fear of big repair bills is holding me back 😰

@immigrant3221

Жыл бұрын

Updates ?

Can you please do a video on the active hybrid 5 and 3? Please

These reviews are hilarious.

640i is a good reliable car love it

Am looking at 2017 640i gran coupe. Only 40,000 miles, good price. But am concerned about costs if it breaks down. Warranties are super expensive. Are these cars a money pit?

I’m debating on buying a 2013 E92 M3 with the competition pack or 2015 F13 M6 with competition pack. Does anybody have any experience or opinions on either of these cars? I’m 6’4”, 275 lbs by the way

Good vid and review i am running my second 640D coupe msport at the moment great car. My advice ditch the runflats and fit Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres. The ride is much more comfortable with these.The front wheel fits the rear as a get you home if you need a spare buy a front wheel and tyre.

@Vica366

5 жыл бұрын

@@norshafiqsuperman9759 hi , i never experienced vibrations above 60 even with the run flats. it sound like you need wheels balanced and tracking set my friend. or maybe you have a cracked wheel thanks to driving over pothole with the run flats.

@YordanHristooov

5 жыл бұрын

Already did 9k miles on my 2015 640d and its brilliant but 1.5 months in atm for EGR cooler recall :D

@misiekeg3

5 жыл бұрын

I had that issue with vibrations on standard m sport wheels... Ive been 2 times in tyres garage in uk to balance them but that wont help. Then finally I found one guy in Poland who checked all wheels and straight them... no issues with vibrations after that... bmw wheels are really good but soft so you can easily damage them on bad roads... especialy 20 inch on low profile..

@boerboel7777

3 жыл бұрын

I did this on my 640D, dumped RF for high end non-RF. Huge difference in handling, comfort and reduction in road noise.

@beeryweery

Жыл бұрын

run flats are fine . . just fit new ones if you buy a car with the factory originals

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 7:24 I just had my EGR cooler replaced at the dealership free of charge as part of the the recall like you said in the video. 2016 640d Gran coupe

@boerboel7777

3 жыл бұрын

Mine too - 2016 640D EGR replaced by dealer under recall in July 2020. I had to top up coolant every 8 weeks before replacement. All went well until last week (March 2021), when *again* I had to replace coolant! So that begs the question, does the problem come back?

@jondoyle44

3 жыл бұрын

@@boerboel7777 I literally just had a top up coolant message yesterday... It looks like we're gonna have to live with it... 😬 TBH it's not the biggest problem in the world I guess, as long as it doesn't get any worse. I'm happy to keep posting progress here. Anyone else have the issue? 🤔

@jondoyle44

2 жыл бұрын

2022 update, I was losing too much coolant so I brought the car to my local mechanic and after quite a bit of searching we eventually Managed to fix a leak. All the leaks were caused by poor workmanship by the main dealer. It begs the question... Was it accidentally poor workmanship❓

Does the 640i has the b58?

Is worth it buying 2016 650i with 20kms done?

Bruh, can you do the guidelines of buying an used Maserati Grand Turismo ? The V8 Naturally Aspirated ones.

@jerrypierre3001

3 жыл бұрын

I'll help you, don't.

Can you do a video for Second Generation (E63/E64; 2003-2010)

you sound like count Dracula

@dhawk718

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Arturo124

3 жыл бұрын

this Dracula consumes machine oil to keep him alive instead of blood

Do a video about E63, please!

Please please please do one for the previous generation :)

Soft closing doors on the 6 may have problems after some time if not treated with respect

Excellent....thank you.

Thank you, I never had a German car before always Japanese ( Lexus, Acura). Thinking about buying 1 . Good info to know .

@1MrErling

3 жыл бұрын

don't!!!

Thanks for this video.. Getting ready to sell our 640D Gran Coupe M-Sport with just under 64,000 kms on it next month..seems like we have been really lucky, just having the driver's seat and harness replaced once.

@mortenstigjohansen579

5 жыл бұрын

Kamikaze Krew did you sell your car? I’m looking to buy one. Thanks

@kamikazekrew3873

5 жыл бұрын

@@mortenstigjohansen579 , No, not yet.. We are getting it detailed and listed next week.. We just had the brakes serviced and are trying to keep it under 65K..

@kamikazekrew3873

5 жыл бұрын

@@mortenstigjohansen579 , I just sent you a message on fb. Cheers! David

@mortenstigjohansen579

5 жыл бұрын

Kamikaze Krew i did not get your massage? Do you use WhatsApp?

@kamikazekrew3873

5 жыл бұрын

@@mortenstigjohansen579 , No I found you on facebook and sent a message.. please check. Under my name David

The only BMW model I personally prefer

how do you think about 2017 m6 coupe? is it reliable?

@markbills4122

4 жыл бұрын

I have one and so far it has been the best car I've ever owned.

Hello, I have a 2014 650 Gran Coupe. Recently I experience a power train failure and the OBDII Ready read a P0087 code fuel rail pressure to low. I was told that the issues are the fuel pressure sensor problem. What do you advice ??

@kielconstantine

4 жыл бұрын

Abbe Perez just replace the sensor with a new one. It's not a big deal.

@Alexander_l322

2 жыл бұрын

High pressure fuel pump??

first two minutes: why the 6 Series is a great car. next eight minutes: why you should definitely not buy this

@Leonardo555ZZZ

5 жыл бұрын

Cars have good points ,,but they are not perfect.

@spudit2003

4 жыл бұрын

I watched the Phaeton video yesterday, this is looking like a way better option!

@wholeNwon

4 жыл бұрын

Veritas

Hi. I’m going to buy a 640d gran coupe from 2015-2016. Now my question is that i go for xdrive of rwd? Because some say that the xdrive have problems. Thanks

@ishalmania

3 ай бұрын

never had any issues with xdrive been driving for the last 6years

is 640d or 640i better, which one is more reliable, and is the diesel any more fuel efficient than the petrol and if so is it worth it?

@Anythingyoulike2013

Жыл бұрын

Diesel is more efficient. That's about it. Everything else is horrible. But petrol on motorway at 58mph will give you 45-50mpg.!

@beeryweery

Жыл бұрын

the 640d has one of the world's great engines

that's why this models are so cheap after few years.....everyone avoids them. Just looked to buy one 2017 but changed my mind immediately after this video!

I will buy 640d M should i worry ? And 6series come with normal suspension ? Or Air ?

@differentcarreview-dcr

8 күн бұрын

if it has more than 200 000 km then yes, no air suspension more informations here: differentcarreview.com/2019/02/16/bmw-6-series-f06-f12-f13/

Hell yes

I paid 3 year old 20k+ miles BMW 6 Series 44k+ from certified dealer. The only problem I had was that the dashboard screen went completely black after a month and it was replaced brand new for free. I have been driving the car for 2 years now and have 0 issue and love it. In fact, the same dealer asked me to trade in car to upgrade for nearly nothing since BMW 6 series demand is really high around where I live. If you are paying 30k for similar car that I have, you are going to have a lot of issues, guaranteed.

@shirazpervez2405

5 жыл бұрын

Question bro, how much was the warranty? I'm debating getting this and I'm wondering if I should get it with a warranty.

@Kevin-bj2tt

5 жыл бұрын

@@shirazpervez2405 Warranty was free for 4 years, they even pay for my Lyft ride back home while car is in repair/service.

Would you recommend buying a 2014 640i with 97,000km and Full service history?

@aDmaNN266

3 жыл бұрын

why not? if you can pay for it why not?

@aDmaNN266

3 жыл бұрын

just make sure it was not serviced bm long life oil changes every 20k miles , if oil was changed frequently then buy it

Can you make a video about 6 series Second Generation? E63/E64? Please, I'm thinking to buy it, but can not find good info.

@Hawthornage

4 жыл бұрын

Avoid, i have an e63 m6 and maintenance is very expensive and not reliable

@leviauman4131

4 жыл бұрын

I have an e63 good power, great sound with resonators deleted, 152,000 miles on the dash (bought it at 120,000), and 2.5 years of owning it all I've had to replace is the headlights.

My rear camera of my 640xd (2015) was replaced 5 times by BMW

4:44 Nice tune, what the title?

great review, lot of info thanks! for the future i'm not sure what to choose: 650i or M6?

@dancoltan5448

4 жыл бұрын

Stick to the bus

You left off the Transmission fluid replacement interval.

@jondoyle44

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point.... what is the recommended interval for this please? I just bought a F06 640d Gran Coupe. 2016... Loving every bit of it so far!!!

@differentcarreview-dcr

3 жыл бұрын

its in the chart at 10:00 60k km

I got a brand new one in 2018. 20000km on it now and no problems at all. Looks amazing, drives well. Not as fast as i would like it to be (640i gran coupe). I would not buy this car again. Very unpractical. Trunk space not big at all. Looks big when you look at it empty. Once you put a little shit it in, there you go...full trunk. Also the interior is very very tight. I`m 180cm, and nobody can seat on the back seat when i drive. If i sit in the passenger seat, both my knees hit the console. 4 Adults on a long ride would be a nightmare! Right now i`m looking at the m550i and 540i M Performance Edition. But at the same time, i`m considering Audi A6, Q8 and Mercedes E class (all 2019) Cheers.

@DerHalbeEuro

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting is the car expensive in maintenance?

@mihainede85

5 жыл бұрын

@@DerHalbeEuro In Nort America BMW offers free maintenance for the first 4 years/80 000km. That does not cover brakes, wipers etc, but all oil changes and filters are covered. So far i didn`t spend any money on it.

@mihainede85

5 жыл бұрын

And one more thing, for those thinking to get a gas engine over a diesel. City driving takes about 13-14L / 100km.

@supersurfer1

5 жыл бұрын

The 640d is the gem

I bought a 2014 M6 competition convertible 25k miles with clean autocheck when should I expect expenses ?

@differentcarreview-dcr

5 жыл бұрын

that depends on the maintenance and how you will use the car so if it's currently in a very good condition then you can do the following things to extend it's lifetime: -change the engine oil after max. 5 000 mi and all the other fluids according to the fluid interval chart at the end of the video -don't rev the engine past 2 000 - 2 500 RPM while it's cold, after warming up you can use it regularly (you have the oil temperature gauge on the instrument cluster so you will know when it's warmed up) -use high quality fuel and use the car on longer distances too -after dynamic driving and stopping, don't shut off the engine right away, you should wait at least 30 seconds to let the turbochargers cool down a little -don't use launch control -if you will change the oil in the gearbox and rear differential then use only genuine BMW fluids with the proper maintenance and care these engines can withstand 90 000 - 100 000 mi without major problems except the oil consumption which can be an issue

@alwaysnever6004

5 жыл бұрын

different car review thanks, you sound very credential, what could be some major engine problems after the mileage you described?

@celiactrunc

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I will follow your advise for sure !

Another common issue is the premature seat wear in driver seat leather...sad my car was nearly new 2015 model with only 20k miles and the seat wear on side bolsters is crazy. 😑

@boerboel7777

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, really bad wear and tear, looks awful!

@BrandanM94

3 жыл бұрын

@@boerboel7777 same here it’s terrible

@Anythingyoulike2013

Жыл бұрын

120k miles on mine and it's like new. Be careful when you get in and out your cars.

@BrandanM94

Жыл бұрын

@@Anythingyoulike2013 mine had bad wear from previous owner me I got our carefully just how it was. I have recently moved on to a 2023 X3M Competition

Can someone explain what are the buttons at the top of the front seats (near the seatbelts) ?

@boerboel7777

3 жыл бұрын

It is so that someone sitting in the back can move the front seats forward or back. Basically the exact same function as the seat control buttons at the bottom, but higher up so its in easy reach.

@itsg4el

3 жыл бұрын

@@boerboel7777 Ok now I got it. It is strange to see it on the 5-doors version as this function is usually in the coupés.

@boerboel7777

3 жыл бұрын

@@itsg4el Yes it is quite unusual. Since the coupe came before the GC, I think they decided to keep this seat button design and put it in the Grand Coupe. Probably more expensive to have a separate production run for seats without those buttons?