Buster went down and was pissed, he was still in the game and only let it hit 9 so he can get more rest. When Mike went down, he was dazed, stumbling around and looking for his mouthpiece. I guess that plays a huge factor.

@MrGriff305

3 ай бұрын

Buster went down FIRST from a nasty uppercut. He was very fortunate the count was slow and the round was over.

@wasabi5338

2 ай бұрын

@@MrGriff305 No shit Buster went down first, but he wasnt OUT of it. He punched the ground in anger and took the extra seconds of rest, meanwhile Mike was totally out of it, dizzy. The counts were identical but Mike seemed in less shape to continue. Also it was a 10 COUNT, not 10 SECONDS otherwise boxing wont have referees count if it had to be seconds.

@rainerreiter8927

Ай бұрын

But isn't it a fact, that the ref started counting after 5 seconds? 1 or 2 seconds is acceptable, but not 5

@MaccaveliPL

26 күн бұрын

@@rainerreiter8927 it's not a fact, you literally have that show on the video, lol.

@rainerreiter8927

25 күн бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL on the video I've seen 14 seconds

If ur honest with urself, from the time he hits the canvas,it's well over 10

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Tyson was on the canvas for more than 10 seconds. He got a long count. But he was knocked the fuck out.

@tonynewton2845

Жыл бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL According to the rules of the New York and New Jersey boxing commissions, a knockout is not necessarily 10 seconds, but rather a count of 10.

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

@@tonynewton2845 of course. No count is exactly 10 seconds.

@jellyboy123

Жыл бұрын

he could got up a lot faster.

@tonytouch145

5 ай бұрын

It doesn’t matter. It’s a ten count. It’s not an exact science. It’s to the refs discretion. Do you know how many people wouldn’t have made the count if there was a timer as soon as they got dropped?

It doesn’t matter that Tyson’s knock down count was similar or even identical. Tyson would’ve never been knocked out if Douglas would’ve been counted out two rounds earlier as should’ve been the case. My humble opinion…

@MaccaveliPL

2 жыл бұрын

Buster was completely aware and could have gotten up at any time.

@davidfontenot5223

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL He got 13 plus seconds to get up. Why you refuse to understand a knockout is 10 seconds off your feet baffles me. Wouldas and couldas don't matter. Referee and time keeper screwed up. In the beginning the actual ref even admitted it. Then he was pressured and recanted.

@MaccaveliPL

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidfontenot5223 cause it's not 10 seconds. It's a "count to ten". The referee ain't a stop watch. And Tyson got the same count. Everything was legit, but Tyson and his dickriders are looking for excuses why he got schooled by medicore boxer.

@lc3507

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL Don’t listen to Larry Merchant spilling that garbage about Douglas being “completely aware” and Douglas could’ve got up whenever he wanted; just because it looks like someone has their faculties in order, doesn’t mean that’s the case. Compare Douglas’ other knockdowns, does he get up at 9 and three-quarters consistently? I haven’t done that research but I personally I don’t buy he was “completely aware”.

@MaccaveliPL

2 жыл бұрын

@@lc3507 I don't care about Larry's opinion. I can see it.

I'm convinced that the majority of people defending Tyson here have never seen a boxing match that didn't include Mike Tyson.

@MaccaveliPL

10 ай бұрын

They most likely only seen Mike in the highlight videos too.

@ericgatlin6414

8 ай бұрын

​@@MaccaveliPLso the ref can count as slow or as fast as he wants? It's at his discretion? So if you're a boxer and I'm the ref and I don't want you to win all I have to do is slow my count if you knockdown the other guy and speed up when you get knocked down? That's completely fair right?

@msw8966

7 ай бұрын

​@@ericgatlin6414It is part of boxing. You have to accept it. You should know the game before you compete in it. It's the fighters responsibility to know the rules.

@ericgatlin6414

7 ай бұрын

@@msw8966 so the next time you lose some money or you believe your "favorite" fighter was robbed out of a bad decision or a bad stoppage. You remember that's all part of the rules and you have to except it like the rest of us. I know alot of people didn't except the early stoppage in the first Ruddock vs Tyson fight and I honestly think they had a good argument. But they had to get the ref out of the building because people didn't want to accept that outcome. I'm a Tyson fan and I believe that stoppage was too early. It's all easy to except when the ruling goes your way. Let your fighter or team get screwed and see what you say

@msw8966

7 ай бұрын

@@ericgatlin6414 I have been around boxing for over 30 years. I know it's part of the game and I accept any outcome That's what makes the sport of boxing so exciting. I know the rules and I know the consequences of things in boxing so it doesn't bother me anymore. I don't get emotional anymore. Tyson was counted out. That's a fact. He could not continue when he got up and Douglas obviously was aware enough to continue since in the 9th round, Douglas beat the Hell out of Iron Mike. Douglas was the superior fight that night!

It was a good count. The difference is Buster was up and ready to go at 9, but Tyson was out of it. The reff will look at the condition of the fighter more than anything else.

@johnoneill2986

5 ай бұрын

The thing is, Buster should have never had the opportunity to knock Tyson out. He should have been counted out when he had been knocked down previously.

@brolickscholar3083

4 ай бұрын

Tyson had the same count.. Same amount of time. People don’t talk about that. Buster was listening to the count. It’s a 10 count, not 10 seconds. If it was 10 exactly seconds then they’d use a clock with a buzzer or something like a shot clock. You really think those 3 seconds made a difference? Bull shht. He got up and kicked the shht outta Mike. No two ways about it… Buster was rocking Mike’s world the entire fight anyway… You want Mike to win like that? 🫤 Come on man. Give Buster his roses… He was unbeatable that night. You could have put him in there with a Tiger that night. It was his night. He was brilliant… Go Buster Douglas… Don’t take his shine. He’s a man too…

@johnoneill2986

4 ай бұрын

@@brolickscholar3083 yeah, but that happened AFTER Buster's 13 second count. If Buster had been counted out like he should have, he'd have never had the opportunity to knock Tyson out.

@brolickscholar3083

4 ай бұрын

@@johnoneill2986 You only talking about one thing in my response and not the other point I made which is a very poignant detail.. Buster wasn’t knocked out. Buster was listening to the count and taking his time… it’s not a stop watch.. It’s not based on 10 seconds. It’s based on a 10 COUNT!!! He wasn’t even hurt. He got up and got back to business… The business on kickin’ Mike Tyson’s head in… Ain’t no way around that ssA whoopin’. Y’all reaching.. You know it… Don’t take nothing away from Buster. He was beautiful that night.. He put it all together damn near perfect… Respect that man.

@brolickscholar3083

4 ай бұрын

@@johnoneill2986 Who wanna win like THAT anyway? I respect Mike Tyson more for admission to defeat like a MAN rather then make petty, sorry ssA excuses. Trying to blame the referee. Holding his feet to the fire because Mike got the shht beat outta him. Man NO.. 🙅🏽‍♂️ We witnessed boxing poetry that night… Buster put on a clinical boxing lesson. A demonstration of greatness inside of all human beings.. Respect Buster Douglas.. He dug down deep in his own soul and pulled out his best.

The count starts when the REF puts the other fighter in a neutral corner.

@arch0049

5 ай бұрын

Exactly! And when Douglas floors Tyson he immediately backs into the corner so ref can start. Tyson lollygagged.

@TheCambobsherwood

Ай бұрын

Dude but they start counting in their head that’s how it always is watch the fury fights and every fight with knockdowns the Ryan Garcia fight the ref starts as soon as the fighter hits the canvas

@TheCambobsherwood

Ай бұрын

None of that is true

@sadetwizelve

Ай бұрын

@@TheCambobsherwood unless you are in the refs mind,you do not KNOW they start the count in their head. You ONLY know of the count when you HEAR it. The boxers are listening and paying attention to the refs count. The refs count is the one that matters. No boxer fighting a 10 count is gonna be watching for an outside count or arguing that they weren't synced with the outside count.

@TheCambobsherwood

Ай бұрын

@@sadetwizelve yeah and the ref should never give more than 10 seconds refs always do this saving the other fighter stuff it’s so rigged

ref was looking over his shoulders, like, what do i do? count slower ok

Not that it matters but I've stepped through those ropes 24 times before. And the referee inside the ring is "Boss" His count takes precedence! His count is the only count that matters! In the 1940s and 50s ten counts sometimes went 20 seconds. Tyson lost fair & square. Larry Merchant is very intelligent.

@huckleberries9027

Жыл бұрын

Same counts. They both were up at about 9.5 counts. So why did he stop the fight on Tyson?

@black_David_Frost

Жыл бұрын

@@huckleberries9027 Isn't it obvious? Mike was still out of it. The referee helped Mike from falling over again at the count of 10. Y'all simply wanna argue for no reason. Douglas win is etched into History books. It's over with. Deal with it. Adieu.

@danthaman03

9 ай бұрын

​@@black_David_Frostif only I could like your comment more than once.

@astrozoo

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. It's the condition of the fighter that matters most. Tyson was so out of it, he didin't even get the ten count, while Buster was up and ready to go,

Nothing wrong with the count tyson should of went straight to the netural he was so out of it he forgot ,time ref put in neutral corner then had to start count .

Let the ref count as fast or slow as he wants? Nah no way anything can go wrong there huh?

You can tell these Tyson fans never boxed 😂😂

@Aqua.man045

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I mean you cant change something that happened decades ago

Buster wrecked Tyson. Tyson could have had a 20-count and he still was done. Whereas you can see that Buster probably could have gotten up sooner. He is timing his standing-up based upon the count. That is what a pro does in such a situation.

@moseslombe3936

4 ай бұрын

Is that to say Mike was not a pro? Or you just don't know what you are talking about?

@Shane661

4 ай бұрын

@@moseslombe3936 sure he was a pro. But he got so wrecked, as I say, he couldn't have met a 20-count. Like he was knocked into another dimension, crawling on his hands and knees. Buster was waiting the count, and likely could have risen sooner.

@wasabi5338

2 ай бұрын

​@@moseslombe3936Mike was a pro, but he was so fuckin invincible at that point that it was his FIRST TIME getting knocked down, and on top of that he was rocked so he was confused on how to deal with it. Buster on the other hand wasnt undefeated and isnt on the same caliber as Mike so he of course had experience with ref counts.

Buster hits the canvas at 0:21 and the ref is still counting at 0:34...

@MaccaveliPL

5 ай бұрын

What about Tyson's count? I swear people don't watch videos before they comment, lol.

@johnoneill2986

5 ай бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL the thing is, Tyson's count would never have happened if Buster didn't get 14 seconds first.

@MaccaveliPL

5 ай бұрын

@@johnoneill2986 well, the thing is, Buster would have stood up sooner if the count wasn't 14 seconds as he was fully aware, ready to get up by the count of 9 :P was Tyson that way during the knockdown? Nope! He was wobbling like a pair of old man's bollocks looking for his mouthpiece.

@frankie3791

2 ай бұрын

​@@johnoneill2986Don't bother arguing with this dude he said he's rooting for Jake Paul by K.O. 😂

@dhruv412

28 күн бұрын

​@@frankie3791Lol

HBO could be terrible when they had an agenda or were supporting their house fighter. By this point, they were really happy to be able to sever ties with Don King and the tenor of this show demonstrated that.

Count was completely fair and legal..

@ericgatlin6414

8 ай бұрын

So if I'm the ref and I don't want your fighter to win I just slow down the count for the opponent when he gets knocked down and speed up the count when you get knockdown? No way that can turn out bad for anyone right?

@tiniray08

8 ай бұрын

He did the same count for Tyson..count was completely legal in both situations..fact is Tyson got beat by a better boxer.. Douglas outboxed Tyson.. afterwards when Tyson boxed higher level opponents we've seen it wasn't coincidence..he got beat several times (only by KO).He was just the B level king..

@ericgatlin6414

8 ай бұрын

@@tiniray08 Tyson lost. If they both was "Identical counts" like you say that means Douglas lost first. They tried synchronize both counts. But by the time he counted 2 for Douglas he was already on 4 for Tyson. He had obviously delays in between 7-9 if you count by one thousands or mississippis Douglas will be down by a count of 12

@MaccaveliPL

2 ай бұрын

@@ericgatlin6414 Buster beat the count, Mike didn't. Buster won, Mike lost. The end.

Counting 10 seconds like slow motion is a great for the rest.

Excellent video, says it all perfectly. Referee counts are not expected to be in precise seconds. They are not stopwatches. Douglas got up when he had to with firm footing. Tyson tried but was wobbly.

@adfggffffffddffd

Жыл бұрын

not being a stop watch is one thing being off by almost 40% is another and what happen to tyson in the 10th doesn't matter if he should have already won it in the 8th.

@filmcutsbygaryportillo-aut178

Жыл бұрын

@@adfggffffffddffd 40% is B.S. Maybe 5% at most.

@jrwood88

Жыл бұрын

It's the refs job to call the fight if it doesn't seem the man can continue and not only was Buster able to get up without loosing his mouthpiece but Tyson wasn't able to finish because of the bell, there's no rule that says the ref has to count a certain amount of speed and they both got the same amount time in the count, people can cry about it but no commission found the referees count to be against any regulations and for most people still crying foul if Buster Douglas traded places with Tyson and lost the crybabies wouldn't have said a word! Buster knocked out arguably the greatest knockout artist of all boxing history and it made that brilliant artist attempt to win by getting a legit rulling overturned while don king played supa Karen!🤷‍♂️

@itbepoetry

Жыл бұрын

@@jrwood88 (1) BD should have been forced to get up in less time. (2) If BD had gotten up in less time, he would likely have been weaker in facing Mike for the last seconds of that round, compared to the strength BD had in next facing Mike at the beginning of the next round. The result was not fair. BD's very next fight, as did many after, also showed how he didn't deserve to win against the best in the world.

@jrwood88

Жыл бұрын

@@itbepoetry the counts weren't bad and Tyson couldn't hardly stand after his count with his mouthpiece half out and to the last argument the same could be said for Tyson and his comeback losses but both of them were great fighters and neither argument is true and as much as I respect both Tyson got KTFO everyone has a plan till they get hit 👍

Nah! That ref fucked up. Whether Buster would have gotten up is another story.

@arch0049

5 ай бұрын

You have to ensure that Tyson is in a neutral corner. During a knockdown the count starts when the standing boxer is in a neutral corner. Watch the ref cut out of screen to tell Mile where to go. That is the delay in the start. Also, if you head to your corner for water or coaching the count has to stop. Ideally the ref should have both boxers in view. If the red had adjust where he was counting from it would have "robbed" Tyson of more time. Every trainer and boxer knows this. The ref did nothing wrong.

@frankie3791

2 ай бұрын

​@@arch0049Damn you posted this under like 17 comments 😂

That was 10 even with a 1st second delay…the ref shaved a second

It was a long count if you count from when Buster's whole back hit the canvas. Off by 2 seconds..

@arch0049

5 ай бұрын

The count starts when Tyson retreats to a neutral corner, by rules. Not when someone hits the canvas.

@jerrodmecca7745

2 ай бұрын

​@@arch0049true but that's bullshit. Boxing is a dirty sport

@arch0049

2 ай бұрын

@@jerrodmecca7745 Cool you don't know the rules.

Time keeper count a full second when buster first hit the ground.

they gotta do it like k1 kickboxing . THEY DO THE COUNT OVER THE LOUD SPEAKER.

He coulda got up earlier and if the count was faster he would have. Pro move is to take the time down and not rush up. Especially earlier on in the fight. Get ur bearings completely. The bell coming right after def helped recovery but if this happens anywhere else in the round I still think he gets up and wins the fight

The referee is the ruler of the ring. The count is at HIS discretion. Tyson had to be put into the neutral corner, thus forcing the ref to delay the count. At the end of the day, Tyson lost. I guess some people can't handle that and have to cling to decade old excuses.

Anybody here after watching Bobby Browns story of Mike partying all night with him before this fight?

Fair count, I wish Mike won but that just because I like Mike. If I followed or liked any of his opponents I might feel different. Just thinking what about the fans of all of the boxers that Tyson has knocked out that felt the same way we feel about Mike To stoned

@davidfontenot5223

2 жыл бұрын

The count wasn't fair! Are you nuts? He explained it while the video was in slow motion. He was down over 13 seconds. Maybe Buster would have beat the count but he was still down over 10 seconds. Referees and time keepers always speak the same language in most high profile fights because of this incident right here.

@emperorluna6792

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidfontenot5223 he counted slow for both of them

@davidfontenot5223

2 жыл бұрын

@@emperorluna6792 The fight should have been over already. I don't comment on videos I don't watch in full and I was a kid with my uncles when the fight was live. Also, he didn't count slow. He started counting late due to the language barrier. The referee even took the blame initially. The only argument here is that Buster could have beat a fair count. Either way, the FACT remains Buster was down for over 13 seconds before Mike was down for a few split seconds longer.

@user-sg8kq7ii3y

Жыл бұрын

@@davidfontenot5223 The FACT remains that Buster Douglas gave Tyson the beating of his life because Buster was not afraid of Tyson's reputation. Buster went in there to rumble, and Tyson didn't know what to do once he realized that Buster was willing to die in the ring on that night. I've always said that, on that ONE NIGHT, Buster Douglas was the greatest heavyweight fighter in the history of the world. You could have put a prime Ali, a prime Fraizer, Foreman, or Norton against him on that night, and he would have taken all of them out. Buster made a promise to his mama, and there were only two options for him that night: 1) Win the heavyweight title or 2) Die trying.

@ericgatlin6414

8 ай бұрын

​@@davidfontenot5223yeah I agree. Giving the ref his own discretion on how fast he counts. No way that could possibly lead to fixing fights 😂

The time keeper was right soon as Busta's hit The canvas the count should have started

@CALI_BOY_VLOGS

Ай бұрын

No dude

Im fine with jow to fight turned out,that umbeluevable performance by Douglas wpuld have been forgotten otherwise

He got up by the refs count. If the ref counted quicker, who's to say he wouldn't have gotten up quicker.

For those of you grown ass men that dont know how to count official timer starts when his body hits the floor regardless of the ref counting with the glove next to the bell, he stood up at 12 Mississippi HE LOST according to the same rules applied to mike

@CALI_BOY_VLOGS

Ай бұрын

Ref overrides that. He was ready 2 go

12 seconds ,period

@oldschoolboxing6048

Ай бұрын

The ten count was never meant to be 10 seconds kid.

They robbed Mike on that fight. Even with him having a bad day at the office, he still should have gotten that KO easy!

@MaccaveliPL

26 күн бұрын

He got whooped and knocked out.

Tyson would not of gotten knocked out if the ref started counting the moment Douglas went down!!

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

Wouldas don't exist fam. The count was legit.

@flaviusfake271

Жыл бұрын

​@@MaccaveliPLI fell awful for Buster. Winning via referee assistance. 😂😂😂

Referee was within the rules, but his count was 100% slow. In the same fight, his count for Tyson was faster. His job is to count, he knows the difference

@MaccaveliPL

3 ай бұрын

You literally commenting on the video that shows Mike got the exact same count as Buster, lol.

@lafamiliacrew

3 ай бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL watch the count man. The referee is slower than him as well

@MaccaveliPL

3 ай бұрын

@@lafamiliacrew both counts were 13/14 seconds and the video literally shows it, lol. It doesn't matter anyway. Buster was fully aware and would have stood up at 9 no matter how fast/slow the count was. Mike was knocked out looking for his mouthpiece wobbling like a pair of old man's bollocks. Couldn't even beat the slow count he got.

@lafamiliacrew

3 ай бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL not buying it

@MaccaveliPL

3 ай бұрын

@@lafamiliacrew facts don't care about your feelings.

When Douglas hit the mat with his gloves it's an automatic count. Douglas was down for 12 seconds

@MaccaveliPL

9 ай бұрын

Tyson as well. So?

@CALI_BOY_VLOGS

Ай бұрын

Nope other fighter has to be in nuetral corner 1st

And saved by the bell too, this was bs and probably made tyson angrier in life

No matter what people want to think about this count Mike tyson got destroyed, Buster listened to the referee counting and was not out of it at all because he started to get up at 5 seconds and waited like a smart boxer to get the extra few seconds to rest….he would have beat the count no matter what…anyone can see that…..

So the ref can't count as fast or as slow as he wants? So you basically give them power to manipulate fights. Everyone is fine with this as long as its in their favor. "Oh Buster was resting" so? If you're not up by 10 your not up by 10 so you just slow the count just enough he can get up and get out of the round?

@CALI_BOY_VLOGS

Ай бұрын

Tyson is my favorite and this was far. U gotta know boxing. Its the refs discresion other wise they would use stop watches

I never understood why he is looking back there while counting, another refeere could easily have stopped the fight

@arch0049

5 ай бұрын

You have to ensure that Tyson is in a neutral corner. During a knockdown the count starts when the standing boxer is in a neutral corner. Watch the ref cut out of screen to tell Mile where to go. That is the delay in the start. Also, if you head to your corner for water or coaching the count has to stop. Ideally the ref should have both boxers in view. If the red had adjust where he was counting from it would have "robbed" Tyson of more time. Every trainer and boxer knows this. The ref did nothing wrong.

@frankie3791

2 ай бұрын

Yeah even the ref apologized immediately after the fight and realized his mistake it wasn't until weeks later that he tried changing his tune 😂

he could got up a lot faster. tyson was wobbling he was in worst shape

Tyson still made & spent his billion dollars & was the baddest man on the planet. He was the man then & is the man now.

@MaccaveliPL

3 ай бұрын

He's getting knocked out by Jake Paul in July, c'mon. Mike hasn't been the baddest man on the planet since 1990.

@frankie3791

2 ай бұрын

​@@MaccaveliPLJake Paul isn't even a real boxer lol Damn you hate this man 😂

@MaccaveliPL

2 ай бұрын

@@frankie3791 Mike is one of my favorite heavyweights. I just like to make fun of his fanboys, like yourself. It doesn't matter if Paul is not a good boxer. Mike is nearly 60 and he looked awful in his fight against Roy Jones 4 years ago and in his last professional fight, he was stopped by a journeyman. He's getting knocked out.

The bottom line is that Busters count was beyond 10 seconds and well before Tysons count. Tyson wins.....period !!!

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

Nope. It's a 10 count, not 10 second count. Tyson got whooped, stop repeating Don King's crooked excuses. If the count was quicker, Buster would have just gotten up quicker.

@ericdouglass1995

Жыл бұрын

@MaccaveliPL a 10 count of what...... bananas ? If it's not seconds then what is it ? You need to think before you post !! Buster got lucky, Tyson was ill-prepared and the referee screwed up. Buster was a one fight wonder.

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

@@ericdouglass1995 10 count, just a 10 count. Not 10 seconds. Buster stood up and knocked Mike out. If he was a one hit wonder, well, embarrasing for Mike to get schooled by a one hit wonder.

@user-sg8kq7ii3y

Жыл бұрын

The bottom line is that Buster was not hurt. So if the referee counted faster, Buster would have still risen before 10. You act like Buster was so dazed and wobbly that he needed all that time to get up. He did not. A hurt fighter DOES NOT bang his fist to the canvas in disgust. Also, when Buster stood up, he wasn't even wobbly. He stood up quickly and easily. No stumbling at all. Buster said it himself that he was alert, and he picked up the referees count immediately. He said he just took all the time he needed to because that's what fighters are instructed to do. May as well take the time given to you. Now look at how dazed Tyson was when Buster knocked him down. You didn't see Tyson bang his fists in disgust. He didn't even know where he was. He was crawling around trying to get his mouth piece. His head was wobbling all around. He even tried to grab the referee when trying to get to his feet. As soon as he stood up, he was stumbling, so the referee had to grab him.

@flaviusfake271

Жыл бұрын

​@@MaccaveliPLTrue the referee had to go get a coffee before he started to count 😂😂😂

Tyson lost cause he didn't train like he did when he had Cus in his corner. That was an undisciplined version of Tyson.

@MaccaveliPL

3 күн бұрын

Cud died a year before Tyson even won his first belt.

He was still on 1 knee at 10 ...should have been a KO

This was the down fall of the heavyweight division and Mike Tyson they had this planned the whole time Mike won that fight in the 8th round then he got charged with that sexual assault bullshit Mike was the champion of that fight then they threw the man in jail you still champ Mike

@MaccaveliPL

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, they planned it all the way through. They provided Mike and Bobby Brown with prostitutes and coke the night before and forced them to have sex with them and sniff it! They forced Mike to think he take Buster lightly cause he's the best thing since slice bread. Damn, THEY!

I counted 10 seconds and said "1000" in between each number the moment Douglas hit the canvas. He never made the 10 count. But hey like many things in life, boxing isn't fair and that's just the way it goes sometimes. Plus it was amazing that Tyson made it that far into the fight and still put the effort to get up. Still had the fighting spirit considering he was partying and sleeping with Japanese chicks all throughout camp.

@30secondsovertokyo

8 ай бұрын

And sometimes it goes the other way too.....

@UnHolyWible

7 ай бұрын

He was 💯 down for 10 ......

@astrozoo

5 ай бұрын

The difference is Buster was up and ready to go, but Tyson was out of it. It's the condition of the fighter that matters most.

how is this man eligible to be a referee?

@MaccaveliPL

2 жыл бұрын

Regular referee.

@TheDjacob

Жыл бұрын

For real

@thesbleeder2162

10 ай бұрын

Octavio Meyran is one of the best referees to ever do it. If you were a boxing fan and not a Tyson fan you'd know this.

@grammysworld5449

5 ай бұрын

​@@thesbleeder2162facts

My only problem with the long count for Douglas is that the round end right at the end of his count. 2 seconds might have been enough for Tyson to land another punch wich would at least have an effect for the rest of the fight

Copium kills.

People hate Tyson but u have to admit that he won this fight

@MaccaveliPL

28 күн бұрын

In the alternate reality, maybe.

Those last few seconds Tyson was down got counted quicker than all the rest

Buster was WINDING Mike’s shht up all night, man… 😂 Blam!! POW pow pow POW BLAMALAMALAM!!! Unh Uhh!!! Get some!!! Mike was like… 😫😮😧😫🥴 🥊

Terrible count, tyson got robbed and that fight changed everything.. look how fast they counted for Tyson’s knockdown… but it’s boxing it’s usually corrupt… It was almost 13 seconds for Buster

@MaccaveliPL

10 ай бұрын

Haven't even seen the video, have you? Mike got 13 seconds as well. The count was legit.

@xaviervega468

9 ай бұрын

Learn the rules of boxing. The only official count is the count of the referee.

@astrozoo

5 ай бұрын

Tyson was so knocked out he didin't even get the whole ten count. Buster was up and ready to go at 9.

Tyson was clearly unable to continue and Douglas was clearly able to continue but there are still inconsistencies. The "14 seconds" argument is only if you look at the length of time from when the knockdown timekeeper starts to when the referee stops counting. If you look at it from "guy hits ground" to "fight continues" for Douglas and "fight stopped" for Tyson there's a discrepancy. From Douglas on his back to "fight continues" there are 16 seconds. From Tyson on his back to "fight ends" there are 12 seconds and both guys got to a 9 count from the referee. So Douglas DID get more time for the same count. The referee took longer to start the official count for Douglas than he did for Tyson and he re-started the fight slower than he stopped the fight. Again, some of that makes sense. Douglas was clearly in better control of his faculties at similar points in the official count and you can't really say with a straight face that the extra second or two to start the count for Douglas caused that. When a guy is clearly unable to continue you don't have to make sure the other guy is still in a neutral corner or check his reactions etc, you just wave it off. So it can be explained, but it IS a thing. The other discrepancy here is that it's not like the ref had a frame of reference for who was more knocked out when Douglas was dropped. It was the first instance of someone actually being hurt in the fight. He didn't think to himself "let me compare how knocked out this dude looks to how knocked out Tyson will look later." Lots of referees would look at a guy staying on the ground and getting up slowly and not without considerable effort and wave it off, and lots of refs would look at the knockdown timer and pick up where he left off instead of starting over. But lots of refs would do what happened here as well. All in all, everything was within the legitimate rules of boxing and there was nothing egregiously unfair about anything that happened. It's safe to assume that if the referee started Douglas's count at 4 instead of 1, Douglas would've still gotten up at 9 and survived the round given how little time was left but we'll never know, but the ref did nothing wrong in what actually transpired either.

Mike won. Doesn't matter if Tyson's count was the same. Douglas's count came first and he should have lost. Don't want to hear that "he would have got up quicker" garbage either. No way to absolutely know that since the count was bad. Anyone that says different wants to reverse cowboy ride Buster. The end. Facts win.

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

The count was legit. Mike lost. That's facts, everything else is a fanboy delusion. Don King's excuse fortunately didn't fly along the people who know boxing.

@TheSBleeder

9 ай бұрын

Record books say that your boy toy got knocked out.

@KingNiros

9 ай бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL That count was a joke, but if you can't count correctly, that's a you problem.

Larry merchant is bias

@MaccaveliPL

3 ай бұрын

Is the timer biased too? Or the ref who gave both fighters the same count?

@0Shane13

3 ай бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL Go Watch Joe Rogan. buster got more time than Mike.

Mafia shit

Buster absolutely got clocked. And he was so damn lucky the count was slow and then the round was over. But he fought great that night.

@soonerbred22

2 ай бұрын

I mean tyson also got clocked but was still on skates. did you not watch the video. Tyson had the exact same count and but the fight was waved because dude couldn't even put his mouth piece in right lol

@MrGriff305

2 ай бұрын

@@soonerbred22 Yes, but the one who gets knocked out for 10 seconds FIRST is the one who loses. Douglas went down from an uppercut.. He didn't slip or get pushed.

@soonerbred22

2 ай бұрын

@@MrGriff305 you mean ten count. the ref doesn't use seconds

How about 12.8 seconds exactly,,,,,, Tyson won

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

It's not a 10 second count. It's a 10 count. No count is exactly 10 seconds.

@moaningpheromones

Жыл бұрын

If it was ten seconds then you'd get a big digital clock and beeping counter and the boxer would know what the count was from that. I'm 99% certain Douglas would've beaten the count using that too. Boxers use up the count before getting up - watch some fights it happens all the time. The ones doing that could get up right away but they use the count to gain a few seconds recovery. Duh!!

@adfggffffffddffd

Жыл бұрын

@@MaccaveliPL Imagine having such bad timing that when you do a 10 second count you're off by more than 3 seconds. Also they literally have a person who's sole job is keeping track of the KNOCK DOWN TIME.

@MaccaveliPL

Жыл бұрын

@@adfggffffffddffd it's a 10 count, not 10 second count. The playing field was even - they both got the same time to get up. Buster was fully aware, Tyson was knocked into oblivion.

@user-sg8kq7ii3y

Жыл бұрын

@@adfggffffffddffd Get this into your brain. It's a 10 COUNT. NOT 10 SECONDS!

Ref paused even on 9! Looked for a sec an said ok!? But waved it off on 9 for Tyson?! They both was wobbly only difference busta got saved by the bell🤷🏽respectfully had the ref did that for Tyson in the 8TH! It was over

Tyspn got robbed that was 13 plus seconds thats what cameras are for it should be honored.

The examiner making this film needs to get his head examined i count well over 13 counting slow. And as far as tysons time being down thats irrelevant he didnt get knocked down first.