Thanks!

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Thanx so much for your kind donation Sherrilee! I always put donation back into the channel! Awesome!❤❤❤

I saw Fil's video. The fact the Eagle's lawyers haven't challenged him on his findings, proves it. Fil, ROCKS💪

@atreb56

4 ай бұрын

Fil is excellent in his analysis.

@ellenw391

4 ай бұрын

What could any atty for the Eagle's or Henley say?? The vocal waves were virtually identical. All it would do is have it validated in court, when a court agrees it was a pre-recorded vocal. And FAR more people are likely to hear about it then, then those of us wise enough to follow Fil lol ETA and that likely would open the door to countless people who paid big bux for tickets into a class action lawsuit saying they paid to hear live vocals. It could potentially lead to a huge, expensive mess! Especially since Fil proves the point. They would be smart to ignore and pray people don't hear about it

@patrickjohnwoods7816

4 ай бұрын

Jethro Tull - We Used to Know = Hotel California. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2ekra6EcZS8nsY.html

@yrbadself

4 ай бұрын

I saw Fil's video (I have been subscribed to him for years). He does a great job in his all of his videos to show the greatness of so many performers. Love his videos on so many great guitar players, and vocalists. He really tends to be complimentary. Even in his analysis of the Eagle's vocals, he was not condemning, he only showed the facts.

@doonbiz

3 ай бұрын

Henelys performance of Desperado in 2023 was 98% identical to his performance of the same song in 2024. In the studio, it's likely some effects were added to the Henley vocal to make it sound live. Fil Henley of wings of Pegasus is exacting in his song analyzes. All those people who spent money to see the eagles perform live we're cheated by Henley (perhaps others) by Don not doing his job and miming another version of Desperado. If I'd been there and paid, I'd be absolutely livid. Thanks Fil and Wings of Pegasus. And thanks to this channel for joining in, adding an extra voice to the eagles participating in something that should be against the law.

He should file a lawsuit against himself for the unauthorized use of his music in a live setting.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

LOL! Now why did I think someone would tie current events into this circus of a story Sunshine? 😉👌❤

@Thomasmemoryscentral

4 ай бұрын

That sounds as absurd as the time Saul Zaentz sued John Fogerty for plagiarizing his older songs just because John didn’t have ownership over his original catalogue that Saul purchased. He criticized Fogerty for creating songs that sounded too much like himself and even the judge felt confused

@sunshinecoolwater9528

4 ай бұрын

@@Thomasmemoryscentral My comment is made in ironic jest.

@MountainHomeJerrel

4 ай бұрын

Dang dude. Dang.

@gizzy2403

4 ай бұрын

😂😂

And McCartney gets criticized for his current voice. For me, at least he is singing live!

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Spot freakin’ on Martin! ❤❤❤

@mayaram2411

4 ай бұрын

True. At least there’s that. His voice is deffo fading though.

@MrKeychange

4 ай бұрын

I wish he'd rest his voice a little though. The man's compulsive need to work all the time is doing more harm than good.

@CSMuffin

4 ай бұрын

Yes. I just commented on this video and said the same thing before reading your comment...

@patrickhenry4675

4 ай бұрын

@@MrKeychange Three hour concert last time I saw him. That does not help.

If these artists are going to lip sync then we should be able to buy tickets with Monopoly money.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Ooh! Nice burn Don! But also, all so true! 🏆🏆🏆❤❤❤

@abc-yv2js

4 ай бұрын

Comment of the month award

@travisk4215

4 ай бұрын

Is there another kind of money? 😉

@brianforgie7724

4 ай бұрын

​@@travisk4215Canadian Tire money. Its a chain of stores in Canada and they gave you paper money from their chain when you made purchases. Got a whole stack of it.

@BillyO8828

4 ай бұрын

Lip sync or fake "real bands" like Journey with Arnel Pineda. All the same in my opinion. Don't get me wrong...I like Arnel, but it's not Journey. There's a market for these cover or fake bands and so the bands sell it. A lot of rich boomers want to re-live their childhood. Perhaps it reminds them of their first kiss, or first car. I get it. I personally wouldn't go to these concerts. I choose not to reflect back on my teen years too often because I tend to want to go back...and I can't anyway. Life is great right now in my 60s, so I need to enjoy the moment here and now.

Finding out Henley is lip syncing gives me total respect for Bonjovi calling it quits because his voice is too damaged to sing.

@kevin2400

4 ай бұрын

Bon Jovi should of called it quits after blaze of glory

@BillyO8828

4 ай бұрын

Same with Steve Perry. I personally believe that's why Steve cuts his own albums, but never returned to Journey. Steve's voice is still ok, but I think it would become painfully obvious if he tried to sing songs like LaDoDa...that he just can't do those songs anymore. Most of these artists have tons of money, so I don't see why they do this sort of stuff. But hey...it's the people's money and they will fork out hundreds of bucks to see these cover bands. Honestly, I don't understand it, and I personally would rather see a tribute band because they are usually 5x cheaper. But that's just me I guess.

@Harrybollox

4 ай бұрын

BJ used to use tracks . Glad I never went to see them, and I was in a BJ cover band, we were good, no tracks

@bloodybones63

4 ай бұрын

@@BillyO8828 Hotel California is a very good tribute band. They say they are sanctioned by Henley. I've seen them twice, will again. PS, first time, front row, $30, next time 3rd row, $60. ha

@thema1998

4 ай бұрын

When did Bon Jovi say that? Jon hasn't retired from performing... yet! Plus, the band is going to release a new album on June 7. Are they going on a farewell tour? 🤨

After they unceremoniously threw Don Felder out of the band, I never cared to see them play live again. I always loved the Felder-Walsh interplay and when that was gone, it was over for me.

@roadiethegamecat4124

4 ай бұрын

Felder wrote one of the best music autobiographies I have read. "Heaven and Hell My Life In The Eagles". If you get a chance it's a great read.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

4 ай бұрын

@@roadiethegamecat4124 Frey and Henley attempted to sue him instead of combating back in say an interview response. If that is the direction they refused to take, suing Felder proves it right. They tried to throw out his original contract of equal cash to scoop more for themselves

@peternewman3487

4 ай бұрын

My thoughts entirely.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Exactly GoneGoneGone! Exactly! ❤❤❤

@jesse-gz1ri

4 ай бұрын

Same here.

Fil is a master of track analysis.

Thank you for crediting Fil, it's a must see video.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

No problem G! Thanx! ❤❤❤

@brian7193

22 күн бұрын

I am a huge eagles fan and while i hope this is false the video I seen on wings of pegasus site is a well put together piece and knowing how the eagles deal with things I think the fact they haven't had this taken down speaks volumes,now as I said at the start I am a huge eagles fan, and there are 2 sides if the coin. I can understand. That using ba king tracks coukd give the fans a better performance on the night,but I woukd rather hear one if my fave artists performing live on the night with dodgy vocals than have them mime, nowadays fans are not allowed phones etc at gigs to stop videos if shows being recorded,I think it's time that some sort of legislation is brought in that if artists are doing a live tour they should be banned from using backing vocal tapes so the fan's are getting what they pay for especially with ticket prices as high as they are now

It's a Don Henley heritage band. People are deluded if they think they have paid a large fortune to see the Eagles.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Oh I like the Name Rick! The Don Henley Heritage Band! Love it! Sounds like a foundation! ❤❤❤

@christophercripps7639

4 ай бұрын

I guess heritage works because at least one original is left. After that it is a tribute band or cover band unless promoted by the “Eagles” (rock band)* trademark owner. There is a TM & SM owner who can trot out any old live bodies to go so far as to lip synch & fake playing to backing tracks.** *As opposed to the NFL Franchise Philadelphia Eagles LLC which owns “Eagles” Reg’d TM for various sorts of apparel offered for sale in a “different market.” The Eagles of Henley is a Reg’d Service Mark owned by Eagles LTD in Cal. and covers “entertainment services provided by a music group in the form of live performances.” **”Live performances” under TM law is probably classified as a “service” and “live” would seem to include a living body lip synching in front of a living audience. There is probably a Red’d TM that covers the products & goods of music and entertainment distributed on tape, vinyl, CDs, streaming, etc.

@65boogerbutt

Ай бұрын

Part of that falls on their greedy mgr. Irving Azoff (he manages several classic bands, milking it). Pushing them out on the road w/o Glen. For Azoff 30 pcs of silver isn't enough

Any artist who is lip-syncing and/or relying heavily on backing tracks, is committing fraud.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Boom! And spot on Dan! ❤❤❤

@Wyl7

4 ай бұрын

I’d say context is required. A solo musician like Buckethead plays live guitar over backing tracks (the “band”), and there’s nothing fraudulent because he makes no attempt to hide it or deceive the audience. There’s no one on stage besides him, so it’s impossible for anyone to think humans are playing drums and bass live in his concerts.

@circlemover

4 ай бұрын

Not true. The artist is there and performing live on stage even it is lip-synced. Its still a performance. How an artist presents live, is up to them. As it is up to the individual to go and watch the performance. Don't get hung up on using technology and post-production tracks on live performance. After all, the artist makes the music in the first place and produces the backing tracks. Many vocalist have ruined their voices on arduous live tours, after all, they are only human.

@dannyc7839

4 ай бұрын

Depends on the genre. I just saw Gary Numan, and he was fantastic for his age, but his style of music has many layers to replicate live , even with a band. So some are obviously backing tracks or samples. The Eagles on the other hand are known mostly for their vocals and vocal harmonies and acoustic guitars , so Henley in particular deserves to be ridiculed.

@TheBassgoddess

4 ай бұрын

I think if an artist wants to lip-synch, they should inform ticket buyers, so we can make the choice to attend or not. Full transparency is required, or stay home !!

"They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast..."

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Superb Sunset! Bravo! 🏆🏆🏆❤❤❤

@patrickjohnwoods7816

4 ай бұрын

Jethro Tull - We Used to Know = Hotel California. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2ekra6EcZS8nsY.html

All I have to do is walk up to the microphone, and say I’m getting old, but I’m gonna give you the best I got, the people will understand

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Bukkseye Ellsbyr! 🎯🎯🎯❤

@tanduay64

4 ай бұрын

Henley's ego is waaaay too big for him to even think about doing that.

@pedromancenithe3rd

4 ай бұрын

Hmm, not for 250 dollars they won't!!!!!

@connievino4226

4 ай бұрын

Exactly, wow

@deadbang241

4 ай бұрын

People don’t like excuses , especially when they paid good money, they want to hear a great show , like on the recording , only louder . To do less than that , your ticket price would be expected to be reduced.

i want to hear the imperfections, the soul, live. Zero tolerance for lip syncing.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Yeah! Me too PseudoSun! That’s half the fun of watching someone live! ❤❤❤

@christophercripps7639

4 ай бұрын

I am in your camp. I remember the Rolling Stones at the Super Bowl. Compared to earlier live videos quite a bit rougher at the SB. I think Stevie Nicks has kept it fairly real. Compare “Edge of 17” live at Red Rocks or at the Whiskey in the ‘90s (?) to Crystal Visions (Melbourne 2006) or at Chicago: not as sweet vocals as Rumours and maybe auto-tuned but different arrangements. (All/mostly available on YT.) I remember listening to an old Grand Funk RR live album on vinyl (parent’s) which on the jacket clearly stated the recording retained all the grit of a live performance - crowd noise, buzzing, etc.

The "Eagles" haven't existed since their break- up post the Long Run album; only the drama of Henley/Frey. Good post, thank you for Fil's hat-tip.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

BOOM! Well said Tom! ❤❤❤

It's hard to imagine Timothy B. Schmitt playing with the Eagles since '77 and not being a full time member.

@StaronWarner

4 ай бұрын

He is not an original member ,

@StaronWarner

4 ай бұрын

The original members were Glenn Frey, Don Henley, Randy, Meisner, and Bernie Leadon

@RichardBond-dn2fi

4 ай бұрын

Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt both need to grow a spine!

@bloodybones63

4 ай бұрын

@@RichardBond-dn2fi They won't give up that payday & fame. They get paid very well to be sidemen. Henley & Frey never made that Don Felder mistake again.

@sheilamorgan3845

4 ай бұрын

​@@StaronWarner Don Felder was not an original member but he was made an equal partner.

Fil’s Wings of Pegasus channel is amazing, I really respect how he calls out things like this. He has done several things on autotune and pitch correction that also show how as music lovers we are being ripped off. As to the Eagles , I am a huge fan, but I do not see them as a band anymore, it's shameful if Don is miming and sadly now Glen has passed away, it feels like they have become their own tribute act. I would be happy if they recorded another album with the latest lineup and toured with that(with tickets that are actually priced realistically), but I wouldn't cross the road to see them doing what they are doing now. We need people like Fil and yourself to keep getting the message out there regarding how we are being duped, and we need the bands/acts to listen and respect the fans again.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

I so agree with you regarding Fil and his channel Martin! And thanx for your kind words regarding mine brother! ❤❤❤

@HaleysTusk

4 ай бұрын

I honestly don't think it would get the reaction you think it would. Back in the 70s-90s, sure, this would be sacrilege, but have you seen the younger acts of today, the ones people are shelling hundreds to see? With as much dancing and gyrating, you'd have to have ungodly breath control to keep pitch & tempo while dancing all over the place. Audiences today are used to act using backing tracks and probably miming, because they are entertained by the spectacle. Musicality and respect for live music were things that past audiences cared about, not todays' audience.

Kudos for recognizing Fil’s work on this. He’s a great guy with a great channel.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

He sure is Allen! ❤❤❤

I just saw the latest Wings of Pegasus video, in which he uses detailed electronic analysis of Don Henley's vocals for "Desperado" in live performances of the song from 2023 and '24. The Wings of Pegasus guy demonstrated by singing something twice, and showed how the analysis lines differed in his own voice, recorded twice in just one minute. Then, we see that a Don Henley performance from last year matches up almost perfectly with another a year later. Michael, I always like your commentary. I thought of posting a comment on one of your previous videos on backtracking, but now you've got this new one, which is another good one.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Thanx so much Eric! And I agree that Fil at Wings of Pegasus does a great job brother! ❤❤❤

@SuziQ.

4 ай бұрын

Fil just uploaded an update, with more performances, and more examples of his own vocals, and how his don’t match.

@lawrenceadkins2924

4 ай бұрын

But Fil did his demo acapella, so naturally the timing is not going to be the same.

@SuziQ.

4 ай бұрын

@@lawrenceadkins2924 , It was just one sustained note. What point are you trying to make? Don Henley is lip syncing.

Glad you and Fil are bringing this up. Some of these bands just need to retire instead of scamming the fans. The music industry is self destructing and has been for a while. Need to start all over again in the garage/basement and local 50 seater pub! Rock on!

@terrencereardon6374

4 ай бұрын

I rather watch horse racing.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Thanx David! And a Rock On right backatcha!❤❤❤

@brianforgie7724

4 ай бұрын

​@@terrencereardon6374oh ya. Drop a couple bucks on a pony and have some fun. I have spent many a nights at the track.

About 20 years ago when I saw them I was sitting next to the sound booth and was talking to one of the sound guys. They showed me the many racks of computers that kept the vocals in check. Basically on the fly pitch correction. He told me and I have heard it from others that work with him that only Joe Walsh and Schmidt could really do it live at that time and Henley and Frey for several years up to that point had been “enhanced” by processing.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Wow! Thanx so much for this additional information MrSupro! The evidence is mounting folks!❤❤❤

@timpenfield5

4 ай бұрын

No expert here, but DH never had a strong voice, seems unlikely his vocs would hold up so well.

A weeks pay for a lipsync show is a sham. No thanks.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Damned right Aaron! But these folks think they are a vacation! No thanx! ❤❤❤

The Eagles have become The Pigeons.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

LOL! Good one Joe! ❤❤❤😂😂😂

@RealButcher

Ай бұрын

Dead Pigeons.... 😮

I saw the Eagles in 2019 but I worked at the venue so I got paid to see them. Most of the show I stood next to the sound mixer and I'm convinced that this is the best place to view a concert. The sound was like a record. Maybe it was!! I agree that paying for a live performance should mean hearing the artists perform live. I watched Fil's channel a few days ago and the similarities in Henley's performances proved to me he uses recorded vocal tracks.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Spot on James! Well said brother!❤❤❤

For the amount of money they're charging for tickets, the revelation that they're miming is an absolute disgrace. I'll be surprised if there aren't some class action lawsuits filed in the US after this.

Saw the Pegasus segment as well and spot on. Just waiting for a top reporter with guts to own interview Henley and ask him directly about lip syncing.

I hope Rick Beato picks up on this. He hates Henley with a passion.

@petergrewe6923

4 ай бұрын

Haha. I’m sure he has seen it. I ll forward the link to him

@martinsundland7614

4 ай бұрын

So do I! An absolute, egotistical jerk.

@wayne_twentyfive

4 ай бұрын

I wasn't aware that Rick disliked Don so much .. I've seen him be quite critical of Don for being one of the biggest blockers of using his music for reaction videos .. But I didn't know that his issues with Don were as personal and intense as you suggest.

@SS-qo4xe

4 ай бұрын

I would love that too but I highly doubt that he will. Henley has deep pockets and could crush a guy like Rick. Best thing would be for hundreds of thousands of Eagles fans who go to their concerts to simply turn away from them. No one can fight the box office.

@MrChopsticktech

4 ай бұрын

@@wayne_twentyfive Last time I checked, Beato was getting blocked/demonetised because he tries to claim 'Fair use for educational purposes'. Using audio for 'What makes this song great?' is not educational according to the fair use doctrine (Google it). Rick also makes it personal, not blaming the record label, publisher etc. and instead acting like Don is sitting there just waiting for Rick to post a video. Rick has a lot of great videos but needs to learn how to use KZread properly and follow their Terms of Use. He claimed he didn't know how to get in touch with KZread to dispute a claim or something and couldn't figure out how to Google to find a phone number. The guy knows his musical stuff but needs to learn about copyrights and fair use exemptions.

I’m a retired Audio Engineer, living in Thailand. Back in the 80’s I was starting, put in a show in park west, park city Utah, don was promoting his solo record “ building the perfect beast “, Danny Kortchmar, burnin lead guitar. Don utilized something called “ Lyn drums” a sequencer, sampler, for playback of the horn / synth parts on “ Sunset Grill”. My memories of him are pleasant, very fussy- professional. I grew up in Thousand Oaks/ Malibu, so I consider The Eagles to be “ My Band”. I was 23, graduate of “ Sound Master” under the brilliant Brian Ingoldsby/ Hugh Allen. ABC/ Dunhil- Gotham NY/ Scully-Neumann. I saw the first Digital recorder, called “ Sound stream”. 8 bit -4 k. It sounded fake. One particular Engineer, who chose ABC studios, was “ The Immortal Roger Nichols, “who Created those timeless Steely Dan records. Still used by the old hands when referencing Commercial Sound Reinforcement projects. Ahh, the good old days ❤️☮️🙏

It's one thing to transpose your voice to a lower different key because you are getting up in years. But using backing tracks because you can no longer sing at all is complete BS and a slap in the face to your fans. It also reduces your concert to a blatant cash grab.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Spot freakin’ on Gearjam! ❤❤❤

@theoversouls

4 ай бұрын

It's not even backing tracks (like an orchestra or whatever from the record) it's MIMING.

Great that you credited Fil. Some people pass this knowledge off as their own. You're great, Michael, and your presentation is perfect!

Thanks for the shout out, Michael! I figured you would do a video on this, and you did a superb job. The Eagles these days are a joke. Some fans can complain about Paul McCartney's vocals not being good live the past few years in concert (and on his albums) but at least he is singing live!!

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Thanks again for that link Larry! It was perfect timing as I was already researching this fiasco! But you put it all together for me brother! Thanx! ❤❤❤

@therockinsideoflife4367

4 ай бұрын

​@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineGreetings my dear friend Michael. I heard today, that KISS sold the rights and ownership to there music for 300 Millionen Dollars. To a swedish Company. Could you please inform the tribe about it. Your friend from Germany 🇩🇪 Roger

@garymartin1045

4 ай бұрын

Quit wasting your money on this BS. Artist There's a band called Greta Van Fleet. Cheap Tickets better live than these guys or washed up. And you're knowing you're getting a real deal. You will not be disappointed.

@Robutube1

4 ай бұрын

I'm pleased you picked out Macca as an example of authenticity in concert. It is my understanding that he also sings in the original key, although I don't possess the skills to know this for sure. The guy's a force of nature and I feel blessed to have lived at the same time and his former band, the name of which escapes me for now😉.

@MellissaBoomeroftheNight

4 ай бұрын

Canadian, aren't Fil's vids great? I don't catch them all, but love the ones I do. He works so hard. Take care, good people.

I stopped going to see the Eagles once the fired Don Felder, to me they stopped being the Eagles at that point. When Glen passed that just put the final nail in the Eagles coffin.

I find this particularly reprehensible considering what Frey and Henley did to Randy Meisner when he was losing his high notes on his signature song Take It To The Limit.

@CHUMPTYTRUMPTY

3 ай бұрын

Great point. They treated Randy like shit!

@thedude4672

3 ай бұрын

Frey and Henley were/are bullies. If you didn't defer to them, you were persona non grata in The Eagles. Good music, not good people.

@nancyneugebauer9753

3 ай бұрын

I agree! Randy was my guy!!!

Shout out to Fil. He is showing the man behind the curtain. All of these frauds need to be called out. Thank you for picking up on this. Preach brother.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I love Fil’s channel! He’s got a great set of ears Jeffrey! ❤❤❤

@MrChopsticktech

4 ай бұрын

Does he still do music or is it all analysing vocals?

and they say AI is the problem, no, assholes are the problem.

When you’re done, you’re done! How much money do you need, Henley? Bow out gracefully.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

I second you DC! What say ye TRIBE? ❤❤❤

@michaelwills1926

4 ай бұрын

He might have the same problem Dylan has “holding up his end of the bargain with the chief commander”

@DCToonTime

4 ай бұрын

Well, deceit is one of the edicts of the “chief commander”, so this may be so.@@michaelwills1926

@chloenkitty

4 ай бұрын

At this point it’s not about the money, it’s the love of performing.

@DCToonTime

4 ай бұрын

Love of performing? That’s the problem, HE’S NOT PERFORMING! He’s on stage pretending.@@chloenkitty

I watched Fil's video on this subject and anyone who does not think that Henley is lip syncing should do the same. Thank you for this video and your kick a** commentary about what has happened in the music industry (with emphasis on the word "industry"). Most music today sucks because the industry want formulaic sounds.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Thanx so much for your kind words GulfGal! And yes Fil is FAB! ❤❤❤

Fil from Wings of Pegasus is probably the nicest guy I never met. I only found him about a year ago. he genuinely comes across as just real, honest and kind. (recognizing his talent would need more than a simple comment here.) nice guy.

“Underage nurses to take care of his fading frame” 🥊 Dude you know how to throw a punch! 🍿

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Got that one, did ya KingTrance? I just couldn’t help myself brother! 😉👌🏆❤

@agtrst

4 ай бұрын

That almost sounds like a crime. LOL.

@patrickmalone9380

4 ай бұрын

Topless I imagine 😊

@michellemachet-philip2801

4 ай бұрын

Lol

@user-iv5gy3rc2b

4 ай бұрын

Just so none of them overdose like that one at his house. Thought he was going to jail for that but powerful people took care of it for him.

Baby what a big surprise 😂. Oh, excuse me that's Chicago😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Somehow I kinda figured as much Micheal. Great commentary brother ❤❤. Shout to Fil too. He's way cool too.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

LOL! And I agree with you Jeffrey, Fil’s channel ROCKS !❤❤❤

@jeffreyflint6286

4 ай бұрын

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine yezzz indeed my friend.

You hit the nail on the head. No one in the media is calling this out and you have the apathy of the people paying to see these groups. I was hoping you’d mention Fil too. Almost everything is about image now and there seems to be plenty of disposable income for people to pay for these shows just to say they were there.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Thanx User! ❤❤❤

Another thing about the downfall of rock 'n' roll is where's the next generations?? Who's the next Aerosmith, Guns 'N' Roses, KISS, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Metallica or Scorpions just to name a few. There's none, that's why we still have the older bands still headlining festivals around the world. Nobody came to take their places, very few have the same magnitude.

Spot on brother. Would the Eagles let me pay with Monopoly money since their concerts are fake too?

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Oh that’s the perfect analogy IMHO Roy! Spot freakin’ on brother! ❤❤❤

The way Fil breaks down any video is quite frankly amazing. Add to it that he's an accomplished musician himself makes his analysis videos that much more compelling. Fil has made it a mission to point out the state of today's music and the fact that most musicians and / or producers feel the need to mechanically alter EVERY singers' voices is a sad state indeed. As for Don Henley, why would it surprise anyone that he isn't singing. The mans 76 yrs.old touring day in day out was tough at 36. But this should be an eye opener for the fans, not just of the Eagles but of every band. Especially ones from the 70's & and 80s.

Wings of Pegasus looks at the sound waves and makes a case that is impossible to refute but the similarities are undeniable. Big fan of his work.

The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Glenn Frey died. It's been "Don Henley and Friends" ever since.

@Magnetron33

4 ай бұрын

The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Bernie Leadon left. He took that great bluegrass sound with him..Saw them open for YES in 72 and they were great. Saw them 3 yeasr later and they had become pretty boring. Money does bad things to musicians music

@MultiEviscerator

4 ай бұрын

I'd go a step further, They stopped being the Eagles when they "fired" fellow band owner Don Felder. The magic between he and Joe Walsh was lost, because even though Steuart Smith is good at his craft, he is not Don Felder.

@davedavis775

4 ай бұрын

They stopped when they crapped on Felder . Might as well say when Burnie left. Great music with originals plus Joe Walsh. Mid to late 70's . After that who knows . Certainly after HFO

@user-iv5gy3rc2b

4 ай бұрын

...and friends? More like hired hands that do what they're told.

@Magnetron33

4 ай бұрын

@@MultiEviscerator Fingers Felder was in the way of MORE MONEY. One of the most greedy bands ever

Many, many moons ago ELO was accused of using prerecorded strings and other instruments during its "live" concerts. It was proven true and ELO's reputation (for their concerts) was deeply sullied. And then came along that wonderfully talented duo "Milli Vanilli." They had to give back their Grammy because they lip-sync'd *everything!* Now, "artists" have no issue at all charging $ hundreds and $ thousands to do the same thing. Words Matter --》 if it's a live performance, every single bit of that performance had better be LIVE. Otherwise, it is false advertising. But then again, does anything related to honesty matter anymore? [Spoiler alert] NOPE.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Well said NorthWoods! I concur! ❤❤❤

@SuziQ.

4 ай бұрын

Milli Vanilli also had to refund concert goers and album buyers. They were forced to lip sync from day one. They had heavy German accents. I never liked them, but this example is what should happen to Don Henley (refund all lip synced concert tickets).

@OperationNorthwoods

4 ай бұрын

@@SuziQ. If they had actually sung it themselves, it would have been, "Don't blame it on zee rain!"

It's Don Henley playing the songs of The Eagles. Another example is The Who. They should be called Who's Left. Foreigner is also not Foreigner. And the list goes on..... I would definitely rather hear the artist sounding not so good, as opposed to backing tracks. And like the Bible says, the love of money is the root of all evil. You hit that nail square in the head! I personally would not fund their retirement. I would rather go see the James Gang. They are all living, and Joe is about as real as it gets. Thanks Michael.

@kirkullrich4550

4 ай бұрын

In the UK They are known as the two

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Oh God yes! The James Gang! Ya hit the nail on the head CrossRoadCafe! Bullseye! 🎯🎯🔨❤️

@robbhahn8897

4 ай бұрын

Who's Left 😅

@Thomasmemoryscentral

4 ай бұрын

Technically they at least contain Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend for The Who. The guitarist and major songwriter plus the lead singer.

@thecrossroadcafe7291

4 ай бұрын

I don't hold it against Daltrey and Townsend calling it the Who. John and Keith are dead. I heard Roger still sounds pretty good despite being 80 years old. I would have loved to have seen the original Who. I play bass and John is probably my all time favorite bass player . A sonic assault on the ears and probably part of the reason I have so much ringing in my ears. Check him out on Woodstock 99 with The John Entwistle Band. They were just killing it!

Milli-Vanilli Henley...

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

EXACTLY J! Ya nailed it! ❤❤❤

@garymartin1045

4 ай бұрын

Electric Light Orchestra The first real fakes Of concerts. And that's Was. In the 70s.

Henley is pouring his reputation down the toilet - very successfully

@jimilee4609

2 ай бұрын

Henley a nasty bastard ! Ask David Geffen 😂😂

Since Glenn Frey passed away no it’s not The Eagles. They’re my favorite band. I’ve seen them 3 times; 1975, 1976 (the tickets were $5) and The Hell Freezes Over tour. I would not pay over $150 for a ticket today especially finding out Henley is not live but memorex. Henley has become so greedy. Thanks Michael for this video. Glad I didn’t pay $500+ for tickets.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

You and me both Poet! ❤❤❤

@bradcrosier1332

4 ай бұрын

It wasn’t the Eagles after Henley and Frey showed their tiny dicks by crapping on Felder. I’ll pay to watch him any day of the week, screw Henley - glad I pirated his music back in high school, he deserves it more than anyone.

@bobl8183

4 ай бұрын

The Eagles used to be my favorite band until I read Don Felder's autobiography, 'Heaven and Hell.' Both Glenn and Don had reduced their founding members to mere hired hands and cheated them out of millions. True, the music industry is a dirty business, but having also read Tom Petty's biography, I gained much more respect for him who bucked the system and treated his band members with the greatest respect while truly appreciating his fans.

@bradcrosier1332

4 ай бұрын

@@bobl8183 - Yep, I always thought Henley was the biggest douche in Eagles, but after watching the documentary on them I realized Frey edged him out ever so slightly. Genuinely two of the worst people in the country ended up as partners in the same band. I like some of their music in spite of them.

On a pedantic note: the band is called Eagles, not "The" Eagles. We don't stick the in front of other band names: The Iron Maiden, The Nirvana, The Metallica!! Why does just about everyone do it for Eagles?!!

@seanswinton6242

4 ай бұрын

I believe its because the band is named after an animal or object. Like The Rolling Stones, Byrds, The Beatles, The Animals, The Blackbyrds, etc. That's my opinion.

I worked the Don Henley building the perfect beat tour in Memphis years ago as a stage hand and ran spotlight for the show. They were running samples for the background vocals way back then...

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Boom! There ya have it folks! Direct from someone in the know! Thanx so much John! ❤❤❤

@sharonvalentinerex

4 ай бұрын

Yes...

@sharonvalentinerex

4 ай бұрын

No NDA? I signed one...

@OttoByOgraffey

4 ай бұрын

​@@sharonvalentinerexdo tell. What was your relationship with the band?

@sharonvalentinerex

4 ай бұрын

@OttoByOgraffey I sold pro audio gear at a renowned facility. My sales partner there serviced his and Frye. It was completely obvious by what the bought, how things worked. Samplers and compressors. ALOT of money spent for home studios. The two of them were fiercely, and I mean very fiercely competitive in buying. It was very tricky because if the NDA's!!

Thanks for giving credit to Wings of Pegasus. He is an amazing vocal analyst and his methods are scientific. He uses pitch monitoring software to analyze vocals. He has hundreds of vocal analysis videos. He is always kind and fair. He is extremely knowledgeable about music, and vocals and the physiognomy of creating human sound. He is also an amazing musician.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

I agree M0ody! He’s awesome brother! ❤❤❤

Thankfully Elton and his wonderful long term band were playing live on his farewell tour these last few years

If Don Henley wants the crowd to stop texting, then maybe he should start singing

Agree, Fil’s post was spot on accurate and concise. Also feel your frustrations with many of today’s artists Michael. However I would say you’re wrong and should lay off Paul McCartney. He doesn’t go out as The Beatles or Wings. He gigs as the guy who wrote/co-wrote classic songs of our times. Always like your non nonsense posts Michael, keep them coming 😁

@marktrimnell8245

4 ай бұрын

I think the criticism towards McCartney was about ticket prices rather than miming or going out as 'Wings' or 'Beatles', wasn't it? Apologies if I missed something and have got this all wrong. Macca's voice is clearly not what it once was (surely one of the greatest vocalists in his prime, I would suggest, but not over the last 15-20 years admittedly) but at least the fella is honest in concert and gives it everything he has with his fading chops. No miming. Far more credible and honest than the Henley con, I reckon.

Michael your video made me look at recent live Eagles concerts. Yes Don Henley is looking sad, I noticed during Desperado he grasps the microphone with two hands (to hide the lip sync) and is heavily backlit. Maybe whats more alarming is it's taken a few years for concert goers to unpick this fraud. With Kiss it only took a few initial concerts of the EOTR tour for hardcore fans to pull up audio analysis of the concert sound. It revealed every concert was identical, and Pauls vocals never altered. As we all know the EOTR tour went of forever. This revealed to many when Paul was caught away from the microphone yet was clearly in the soundtrack or when the sync skipped a gear and the drumming track drifted from the instruments. It only takes one missed que to reveal the little man behind the curtain running all the smoke and mirrors.

The worst part of all this is when Joe improvises or adds an easy to sing lyric. It almost feels like the improvised lyric was only put there to say to the audience "Hey, this must be live cause that lyric is not on the album".

Fil is literally a genius and extremely talented. He is the nicest guy too. He wasn’t trying to out anyone, he was just presenting facts based on professional opinion and he convinced me. It is like a fingerprint when you sing. It cannot be duplicated like that. With the ambient noise, he really vetted the data. He is a sound tech who is a great singer and musician. Look, if fans pay to hear the Eagles live, they should not lip sync. He was more than fair by saying he could not speak on backing tracks. He also had multiple videos sent to him and considered they could be the same concert. Don Henley had on different shirts. He was Milli Vanilliing the fans. Not cool! Kind of funny Fil’s last name is Henley! I can’t say enough good things about Fil!

I’m fine with an occasional backing track, such as a synth loop needed for a specific song, but lip synching lead vocals is ridiculous. This also removes any possibility for improvisation, since all tracks have to run at a specific time in the song. What if the guitarist wants to play an extra 16 bars of solo? Can’t do it, the vocal track is timed to come in at a set time. I’ll be saving my money for live bands instead.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Well said Charlie! I agree wholeheartedly! ❤❤❤

He is 76 and worth 250 Million dollars I guess he needs the affirmation?

@michaelwills1926

4 ай бұрын

I feel like all these touring acts are part of a money laundering ring for some unspoken purpose. It doesn’t make sense to be on tour at 76 years old. Knowing how the industry works, would not be a bit surprised

@markrushton1516

3 ай бұрын

250 million? bet its more than that

@thedude4672

3 ай бұрын

The ego is an insatiable beast

@TehKaiser

2 ай бұрын

The fans themselves support him. It's clear they want to hear the songs, and then in their own assumption, think the miming is real, because the Eagles=good while modern musicians are bad. The masses really are simply irrational whiny little creatures.

I think they’ve been singing to backing tracks for at least 40 years . Remember the Eagles Live double album from the early eighties and all the re-editing and enhancement

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Good point Taproot! ❤❤❤

@ToddLongwell

4 ай бұрын

In that case, it was merely because they're anal retentive perfectionists. I've heard bootlegs from the tour that spawned the live album and they sound great.

Michael..this is insane..imagine paying a couple hundred bucks and finding this out..should be able to sue..great video👍❤glen

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly Glen! It’s a crazy world out there!! ❤❤❤

There is no way I would pay to see such bunk, and I feel sorry that some find it acceptable to throw away good money on such. 63 here Michael and I try real hard not to play the fool, and it is obvious I am not alone in this, cheers fellow wise one!

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

On to you as well Passion! You are a scholar and a gentleman! ❤❤❤

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Great lyricist, fantastic (in his day, and as per his backing tracks) vocalist, and undeniably good (business) decision maker. Nice guy? Not so much. Man for the fans? Not so much.

Drugs and alcohol take a toll on the body. Drugs and alcohol are the reason for their albums taking so long to be made as they were for what came out. The Beagles national anthem is Hotel California, a song literally about excess. Don Henley literally looks like Burl Ives right now, san the aging grace and charm. He wants to control the narrative and the legacy and he is doing a fine job of it. All those bands are doing laugh tracks I I mean backing tracks and have done so for decades. The Rolling Stones were one of the earliest of the rock bands. Again drugs and alcohol. A while back I saw a video of Eric Clapton given a guitar and he couldn't even form a chord. I could clearly see his hands were trembling and that he had some kind of neurological disorder. Don is like most of these rock stars we avoided od'ing, he wants to live forever. He doesn't want to the show to end. He kicks 3 year olds in the teeth for doing a cover of one of his songs. He goes back to 1970 performances of the Beagles and autotunes the vocals. There is a reason why so many popular musicians do or did an exorbitant amount of inebriants, their success is largely fake, contrived. Not one of these $500 ticket bands hasn't benefitted by payola. Hype alone made most people love them. It was never real in the first place. It was always smoke and mirrors before technologies came along to make the process easier. Very soon they're going to start dropping off like flies in large waves. I think Don will be stuffed and wheel chaired into UMG's dmca room a couple times a month to rally the troops and encourage them to take down channels of people singing his songs in their studio shower with the water running for ambiance.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Great comment here BILLY! I feel an Avatar show coming on! ❤❤❤

@TehKaiser

2 ай бұрын

I think fans feed into him, not the other way around. It's very clear the fans believe he doesn't need to lip, so these perfromances were proof of not lipping, until shown otherwise. Now, you guys cry foul but in reality, it was a vicious, naive, ageist delusion you were operating under. And I have no doubt they still like the performance and just participating in a concert.

That's the link I sent, MN. Fil is excellent in his analyses, explanations, and sincerity. You guys should have a chat! Wild stuff. The Eagle has crashed, seemingjy.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

I thought so J! And again that YOU for the heads up! ❤❤❤

I just saw another video by The Lake Erie Classic Rock Fan, who has compared 8 different videos over SIX years, showing that Don Henley has been lip-synching to the same exact recording over and over. I will not spend a penny on a ticket to see him putting on a fraud performance. I hope that people wake up to how they have been cheated, paying big bucks for what they thought would be an honest live performance, instead of the musician pretending to sing. You might as well stay home and watch old music videos on the internet.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Sorry for the ate reply Eric, but wow! Thanx for this additional info brother! ❤❤❤

@EricSchultz-zs8hz

4 ай бұрын

Hey, as you said, Don Henley is busted!

The Eagles ended when Felder was thrown out......They're nothing without Felder and Walsh. Period.

For me, the Eagles were done when they drove Randy Meisner out and I have not contributed a penny to their coffers since then! If Henley is doing this on Desperado, how many more tracks is he doing it to and since when? I subscribe to Wings of Pegasus and Fil is amazing! He also featured a video of a live performance of Take It To The Limit with Randy that during the “remastering” process had been pitch corrected and which is now on the official Eagles channel. Randy never needed pitch correction and yet they did it anyway… it sucks the life out of a performance.

The "Eagles" and I use the term loosely, haven't been the real band since Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner left the band. Everything is phony these days....

If a band is lip-synching ... then why not their instruments?! It must be SO tempting to just mime AND play to backing tracks KNOWING you'll never sing (or play) a bum note!

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Where’s there’s smoke MD, where there’s smoke…❤❤❤🤔🤔🤔

Fil stated that Don Henley "mimed" his vocal tracks, just a different way of saying lip-synced.

@99somerville

4 ай бұрын

Fil is too polite to say it.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I concede to that ReddRocking! My bad! 😉❤👌

@thema1998

4 ай бұрын

​@@99somerville He almost never uses the words "lip-sync" or "lip-syncing".

@chrishills2427

4 ай бұрын

Here in England mimed and lip sync mean the same thing

This is the end of Don Henley as far as I’m concerned. I hope this video goes VIRAL

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Well, thanx to good folks like you MJP, it’s off to a nice start! Thanx! ❤❤❤

Queen would always play an audio track during the middle of Bohemian Rhapsody live, because there wasn't a way to perform it live. They weren't trying to fool anyone, they would leave the stage while it was playing, and then go back to playing live when that section ended. Totally acceptable.

@SuziQ.

4 ай бұрын

They weren’t fooling anyone. Henley is.

@aquamarine99911

3 ай бұрын

Which is crazy. I have a friend who's the lead singer in a Queen tribute band. I saw them at a local club, and they did Bohemian Rhapsody totally live, from beginning to end. And did a great job. So I never understood why Queen didn't do that part live.

@SuziQ.

3 ай бұрын

@@aquamarine99911 , Wikipedia has a detailed explanation of why they couldn’t do the operatic part live.

@aquamarine99911

3 ай бұрын

@@SuziQ. The point is, I've seen it done to near-perfection in a local nightclub. Live is never perfect, but it's MUCH more interesting to hear musicians give a live representation of their songs than to hear a backing track. Every band changes things live. The Stones had multi-layered guitars on recordings like "Gimme Shelter", and the live version is always an amalgamation/simplification of the various tracks, often with Keith's guitar in a different tuning.

@SuziQ.

3 ай бұрын

@@aquamarine99911 , I prefer a live concert without backing tracks, too. My point was that Queen are not hiding it, and have explained why they feel like they can’t do the whole song live. As long as a band is transparent about what they’re doing, I’m not going to criticize them. I do reject any use of auto tune, because I find it physically painful to hear (as far as I know, Queen doesn’t do that, but aside from this song, I’m not a big fan).

At the VERY LEAST, what should happen is laws should be passed that say that if these bands are appearing in different places, there should be a disclaimer that says "background singers are recorded", "instruments are played at times from recorded material", and/or "lead vocals are from recorded material". If they don't do this, THEN IT'S FRAUD!!!!!!!! You're paying for a LIVE PERFORMANCE! If they're lip-syncing or using prerecorded material, then the consumer should know that so they can make an INFORMED DECISION on whether they want to pay so much to see them. That seems fair!

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

We need a MEMOREX clause Tim! 😂😂😂❤❤❤

I’m sure the Rolling Stones use backing tracks too, I went to see them in concert there were guitar parts playing, but no one was playing them

@rockinvida1960

4 ай бұрын

💯 for sure the Stones are running trax, cuz half the time Keef isn’t even playing anything, and Ronnie Wood is an absolute shell of his former self in The Faces…

I still view Schmit and Walsh as bonafide Eagles. The fact they were never given “membership” into the band is a just a legal technicality.

@seanm3226

4 ай бұрын

“Legal technicality”? WTF?

@lennomenno

4 ай бұрын

@@seanm3226 I don’t know. Isn’t that what all that “membership” hoo ha is ? Like I said,they’ve always been Eagles to me.

@tracystamatakis

4 ай бұрын

Schmidt was not in the Eagles until the last album. The Eagles have a whole lot of albums that Schmidt is not a part of.

@lennomenno

4 ай бұрын

@@tracystamatakis I understand that ,but schmit is super talented and brought a lot to the table. I feel the same way about Don Felder. They will always be Eagles to me … “memberships” or not. 😁😎

@tracystamatakis

4 ай бұрын

@@lennomenno Don Felder is directly responsible for the Eagles success after he was asked to join in 1974. Don Felder composed 100% of the most iconic songs in rock history, (Hotel California) Henley wrote the lyrics, but writing lyrics is the easiest part of song creation. Schmidt’s contribution to that band is minuscule compared to Felder. In fact I would argue that Randy Misner contributed 10 times more to the Eagles than Schmidt ever did. I like Schmidt, he seems like a decent guy, but he is on one album, one album does not make you a member. He has one song on the Long Run. Randy Misner played and sang on 5 Eagles albums. Using simple math, Randy Misner is 5 times an Eagle member than Schmidt. Also Eric Clapton played the guitar on the Song “My Guitar Gently Weeps” is Eric Clapton a Beetle? Clapton was paid for his guitar part, just like Schmidt being paid, Schmidt is not a member of the Eagles, just like Vince Gil, and Joe Walsh. Gil and Walsh are not officially band members. This whole band debate argument is easy, whatever member or members contributed to the success of a band musically is a member.

I can't imagine Vince Gill WILLINGLY duping anyone. Sad times for authenticity.

@paulnick9092

4 ай бұрын

Vince Gill is great. But $$$$$$ talks.

Lastly, I think Don Felder is a way more humble player. He is the real Eagle in my book.

Shame on Don Henley! He’s a disgrace to the Felders! All joking aside, Don emceed a memorial for Randy Meisner. So it shows Don H has a nice side to him.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Like I said in the video William, I am a fan of his! ❤❤❤

Not honestly surprised by Henley lip syncing - he’s a perfectionist so it doesn’t surprise me that he would go to lengths to miming to pre-recorded tracks. That said people paid for live so he should sing live!

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Thanx Dogpd! ❤❤❤

I feel the same way about the band Chicago. They have had so many personnel changes over the years that they don't sound like the same band anymore.

Way back in the late 70's, ELO were accused by a U.S. concert promoter of lip-syncing their entire show...never heard how that shook out.

It was the Eagles that started the golden age of high ticket prices, way back with their Hell Freezes Over tour.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Yes they certainly did FJCRod! Great point! ❤❤❤

I think my wife and I wasted $500+ last month attending the Eagles concert in New Orleans 😢. When I attend a live concert, I expect just that! 100% live singing, 100% live instruments being played. I'm not sure what percentage of the concert was actually live or not, it's just a rip-off and a slap in the face to their lifelong fans. I accept Timothy and Joe, but Don Felder should definitely be there too.

as a baby boomer i have enjoyed many decades of musicians and their true passion to the art, but now it`s passion for the dollar only. the human soul in music is now replaced with AI soul ( NOT ). Music is dead, it`s all been done before. So just play your vinyls,cds and other formats with friends, family or for yourself, as it`s the original pieces, and not accepting second best. only having one original member left, does not give them the right to perform under the originals band name. the sadist thing with folks today in not taking a stand against fake or fraudulent behaviour is " WELL EVERYONES DOING IT ". Thankyou for your honesty Michael.

@TehKaiser

2 ай бұрын

How is it AI soul? Aren't the notes still the same even if the voices change or dies? Next thing up, Beethoven has no soul because only the paper exists and everything played is done by cover musicianss.

Well done Michael. I watch Fil often and he is so spot on and may I add extremely fair. A few points. I'm with you 100%. I hear people say they went and saw a certain group and then I tell them that there's only one of the original members or in some cases none of the original members and they looked shocked. Do your homework people. Also shame on Don Henley for not bringing Felder back.

Great episode Michael, I certainly dislike the fact that so many top bands from yesteryear are out there touring ,charging top dollar with no or very few original members. To make things worse they are now resorting to lip syncing. If they can' cut the mustard, why are they defrauding paying customers and tarnishing the reputation of the original band.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Perfectly said Lex! ❤❤❤

@michaelwills1926

4 ай бұрын

Bob Dylan spoke about “holding up my end of the bargain” with someone he called “the chief commander” which to me is code for Ol’ Scratch

Wings of Pegasus has a new video, in which he demonstrates more with that sound analysis program. He pretty much perfectly sings the same note 3 times in a row, and visually, the line doesn't match at all, due to the imperfections in the vibrations of our vocal cords. He then shows how a recording of Don Henley singing "Desperado" in 2015 (actually live), and it doesn't at all match up with three other recordings in more recent years (which match up perfectly with each other). As you said, Don Henley is BUSTED!

@stephendringus8183

4 ай бұрын

And it was pointed out that the earlier sample was in a lower key...as you get older, you don't typically change to a higher key.

I have been saying the same thing for YEARS now. Especially since Glenn passed away. Henley is a sell-out. When Glenn passed, Henley said, the Eagles are OVER. Yeah right. I saw the EAGLES once live in concert ONLY because it was my first time and they played in my backyard at our arena in Wilkes-Barre, PA. The year was 2005. The band was great and really tight. Glenn Frey was very personable with the crowd as well as Walsh. We had floor seats at a face value of $125.50. We were center to left-center of the stage 14 rows back and the sound and view were perfect. After that, I said to my cousin, OK, been there, done that. And that was IT for The Eagles. But when Glenn passed, I told everyone, Henley would keep going by getting someone to fill in for Glenn and the group would become a big time touring sh*t-show and it turned out, I was 100% correct.

They lost me when they fired Felder

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Me too Dawg! Me too! ❤❤❤

I saw them on the Hell Freezes Over tour, but even then I didn't really feel I saw the "real" Eagles. I was too young to see them in the 70s. I cannot fathom why anyone would go see them now.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Very astute of you Vin! The drama was alive even then! Watch the DVD! Don Henley calling the orchestra guilty of sounding too white! What a freakin’ joke! ❤❤❤

Don Henley's Dirty Laundry being aired. Love it. Sadly, I did not get to see them before Glenn died. I did see them last year with the Doobie Brothers. Had this info come out last year I would have saved myself $275.

You're correct, don't go, the BS will stop. I went to a CSN concert back in 2014 I think it was. While some of the sparkle was gone of course, they sang the songs using their real voices. They had a really great band as well. It was a fantastic concert.

It's not about the price, it's about them lying about it. A live concert which is not live,...I bet you would win if you would sue them. They sold you something you didn't get.

A friend of mine for many years is in an Eagles tribute band. He has always sounded so much like Henley its truly uncanny. We are all getting older now, and just like the rest of us, his high notes are ruff, happens with age. It just does. I sent Fil's link to him. He was furious! Called FIL a Lil weasel. Lol. Swears if anyone can still sing perfectly, it's Henley! 😮 I used to sell pro audio gear in 1998, I knew this was going on with many big time singers, just by the gear they bought, ( in pseudonyms) of course, for their home studios, their production companies, including all touring engineers. We all had to sign NDA's, for certain clients. It's been an industry norm for a long time. Double edge sword really, how heartbreaking to hear them sound awful, as well as knowing what we now know. Some artists don't lipsync. Change the key is a better choice for me! We all grow older. Vocal chords change with wear! Lying for the big bucks, isn't cool. But oh well. I'm gonna say it, Henley has ALWAYS been a music nazi! Wink wink. It IS true.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Great information here Sharon! I’m fine with changing keys, always have been! Thanx! ❤❤❤

@sharonvalentinerex

4 ай бұрын

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine We work with what we got. I use a harmonizer, on stage, the boys can't sing a third up! I don't hide my little friend! She's on a table next to me! If anyone asks, of course I tell them!

Fil does a great job analyzing tracks with that pitch software, glad that someone forwarded his video on Henley. What we don't know at this time is it just Desperado that he is not really singing live, are there other songs and which one are those, maybe all of them on lead.

@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I subbed to him immediately just so I would be notified of future analysis’s on Eagle vocals Randy!❤❤❤

This is why I don’t go to stadium shows. You pay a fortune to look at tiny dots and listen to playback.