Almost 10 YEARS later, they are right back where they started.

@9036164689

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Watters hahahahaha sad but funny.

@kchal0

5 жыл бұрын

The really sad part is of all of the big auto makers, GM financially looks the healthiest.

@warnpassion

4 жыл бұрын

@@kchal0 LMAO Next joke please.

@epasternak4206

4 жыл бұрын

Well what do you expect, they sold us out to China. Now look at were we are at today, CCP virus

Wow 10 years later and they are still declining...

@JGM986

4 жыл бұрын

Unions are causing its decline and along with those pensions they are losing money and make cheap crap at high price

@PontiacFan68

3 жыл бұрын

and they always will decline soon Chevy, GMC, and Cadillac will soon be like Buick have only four models in its lineup.

@AverageJoe777

Жыл бұрын

@kira GM sucks at negotiating.

I drive a 1989 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale. It is 30 years old and runs perfect. GM cars are my favorite automobile.

GM killed itself in the 90s when they started making cheap cars out of garbage materials that were merely disposable as opposed to being classic!

@PlymouthNeon

Жыл бұрын

and badge engineering!

Here in Manchester England we had until 2 years ago a main GM dealer (Bauer and Millet). Cadillac - Chevrolet . Great repairs and parts department. Now no more !

I wonder how much of the bailout money supplied by taxpayers went to CEO bonuses, etc; did the government monitored the way they spent the bailout money?

Why am I watching? Cause I just recently found out that, (and I don’t know how I never knew) that shareholders lost EVERYTHING after the bankruptcy and worst of all? They were allowed to issue new stock under the same ticker as if the previous stock had never stopped trading. How did they get to do that? That’s absolutely terrible.

Another episode of "why everyone watches ages after upload"

Gm still cut thousands of jobs in 2018, still owe us for the bailout.

@Thanatos4655

5 жыл бұрын

No Refunds

@josephososkie3029

5 жыл бұрын

Notice how Obama blamed “ poor management decisions” for a GM’s predicament but all through his administration they were selling out to China. China conned us. Obama conned us.

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

@@josephososkie3029, if China made you a lot of money, you'd sell out too

@juanzingarello4005

5 жыл бұрын

No problem. With all their dedication to China while they dump the American worker they can ask Xi for a bailout. Except Xi probably won't give it to them. Hopefully by then, a US president will have the guts to tell GM to shove their request too.

@glenncornwall4331

4 жыл бұрын

Mr.Wellington Von Duke III they paid for everything with interest that is a fact.

To CEO of General Motors In attention to Mrs. Mary Barra Dear Mrs. Barra, I am very sorry to tell you, with all respect, that I find out as a big part of your staff are cheating and lying during their work, as a normal standard. On top of that the Customer Service doesn’t care at all about the customers. This behaivior make me to decide to present this message to the public every day, until I will receive an appropriate answer from a serious person from GM company. The conclusion is that IS VERY DANGEROUS TO BUY A NEW CAR FROM YOUR COMPANY!!!!!!!! Daniel Alon

@raylocke282

5 жыл бұрын

GM,aka Grand Mistake

@Spido68_the_spectator

5 жыл бұрын

@@raylocke282 good one😂

Reliability > Innovation

You know what's sad GM was in bankruptcy once ford none and I'm not a stupid ford lover but Chrysler has been in bankruptcy a un hand countable amount it's scary

@thedrunkendragon8118

5 жыл бұрын

Never mind ford has

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

This video was uploaded back in 2009

That's what happens when instead of thinking innovatively you follow the route of least resistance and move your factories to countries where cheap labour keep you afloat.

@VanquishMediaDE

2 жыл бұрын

That is also what happens when greedy governments want to rob all of your profits to then take that money and give it to welfare leaching poors.

they should have let this company fail

In the 80s,GM spent more on Employee benefits and retirement than Steel per car!! Math is math,just because they are on top in the 50s/60s does not mean that will Continue

Why can't they just make cars that last? Nobody wants to buy a car and have expensive car repairs which are usually unexpected and can wreck your budget so then you end up using credit so then now you'll have another problem.

@turbinatearc7478

9 ай бұрын

Ford is better. They’re now the only Free American Car Company left.

my mom had a 3.8 in a pontiac, my dad had a 3.1 in a buick, i had a 3.4 in a chevy, great engines, great cars....i guess some kind of "deal" was made in 2008 after the bankruptcy and whatever happened quality declined in the usa...I had a 2017 camaro and it had 2 recalls and the transmission shudder...sad...anyway, i just gave GM one more chance with a newer camaro with th A-10 transmission, hope it works out

I bought a 1988 Pontiac 350 Formula, and it was a lemon out of the showroom, and never again an American !

When was this video published

@WallsTCAP

5 жыл бұрын

almost ten years ago

I own a Lincoln Towncar and i am very pleased for over 12 years !!!

@thedrunkendragon8118

5 жыл бұрын

Ew ford product

@Blunder03

5 жыл бұрын

Orange Volkswagenbeetle Enjoy your Hitlermobile

@thedrunkendragon8118

5 жыл бұрын

My grandma has had a bmw for 18 years

@thedrunkendragon8118

5 жыл бұрын

OG I will thank you it's very fun and it's lasted 15 years and only had 1 problem because the battery died!

@TheRealZJE313

5 жыл бұрын

I own and drive my 94Limited Buick Roadmaster that is rear wheel drive.this is what happens when you turn model from back in the day to front wheel drive junk.

Now there’s still a risk of bankruptcy for Ford and GM! Incredible

@turbinatearc7478

9 ай бұрын

I just don’t see Ford going into Chapter 11 anytime soon. I mean, as of this writing, they’re suffering a strike right now, but they’ll get out of it and survive. Ford is the oldest American car company, and has never seen bankruptcy. They’ve weathered many events: the Great Depression, two World Wars, the Cold War, 9/11, Katrina, the Great Recession, COVID-19, and now this strike. They’re so strong, they can adapt to any economic and social environment. They are also the only Free American Car Company left today after 2008-10. As for General Motors and Stellantis, if this strike progresses but Ford gets out of it, those two will probably go bankrupt (again) in the fast lane, and Ford will most likely buy Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep - leaving GMC and RAM in the dust, and FIAT, Alfa Romeo and Maserati would’ve been spun-off into a new company. And Ford’s competitors would be the “Big Three” EV startups: Tesla, Rivian and Lucid. Ford will most likely spin-off its “Model e” EV business, as well as the former GM and Stellantis brands’ EV units, to one of those EV startups. That way, Ford will only focus on one thing: manufacturing ICE vehicles, which is a profitable business for them as of right now. Hopefully, the strike will end, and we’ll see what the future holds for us.

Truth... They've been building junk for the last couple of decades

What you borrowed that and still couldn't get it together 😂 wow

I will never buy GM again

I own a 98 s10 UAW built in the U.S. and always treated me good. Almost 300,000 miles on it parts are cheap and easy to fix. Love that truck. I also think Ford builds good vehicles too. To many nay sayers

Obama and the UAW. Gotta love it!

There is hope! Recently, General Motors shares rose as much as 3.1% and closed 2.1% higher after banks resumed coverage of this automaker (one third owned by taxpayers) with high marks for its strong post-bail out balance sheet and its position in emerging markets such as China, Brazil, Rusia and India. Additionally, JP Morgan foresees a $42 per share target for 2011.

I won't say this was the only reason I stopped buying GM, but it certainly is part of it. The last GM I owned was a 2008 Grand Prix GXP. I don't miss that car at all. I LOVED Pontiac! I had a handful of Grand Prixs before that and loved them but it seemed to me that right around that 2005 to 2007 area, it felt like a lot of GM's parts (specifically interiors) were very cheaply made. Just didn't feel as nice as the earlier year's models. Cheap plastic, wear and tear parts on the car that would seem to fail prematurely. Known transmission issues with my GXP but no recalls ever made. That goes for the ignitions too that they knew were bad but never fixed. For all of these reasons, I will do my best to never own another GM car. They should've axed GMC before they axed Pontiac in my opinion anyway. I know a lot of Pontiac models weren't selling a ton, but then just shrink it to a few models instead of keeping GMC around to basically sell the exact same model as Chevrolet, just a different badge. If they ever bring back Pontiac then, and only then, will I want to purchase another GM. Otherwise it's Chrysler and Ford from here. And yes I know, Chrysler got help from Obama too.

@nwj2468

Жыл бұрын

Well you got that right. I currently have an 08 G6 and it's done nothing but fall apart and cost me money. Just about every component and sensor in that car has failed, and it hasn't reached 150k miles yet. GM won't take any accountability for it, and they refuse to fix the power steering recall a second time even though it still randomly goes out without warning. They told me to take it up with NHTSA, which is pretty much the elf on a shelf for automakers. I've tried numerous times to contact them, and they never get back to me. My wife and I own a Ford and a Mercury, and we haven't really had to deal with them because both vehicles have been great.

7:43 don’t worry, you won’t have to pay a water bill for too much longer

Uhh why am I getting an Encyclopedia Britannica link for 9/11 attacks right under the video?

@cobracharmer6178

5 жыл бұрын

DoctorChained; I think the idea is to blame George Dubya Bush for GM's demise.

She doesn’t look 75 💯💪🏾

@TheRealZJE313

5 жыл бұрын

Cause black don't crack

@iammotley9212

5 жыл бұрын

Because she's one of the chosen ones.

Talks about reliability; Shows Toyota and Honda .

@gregpavitt309

4 жыл бұрын

True that... Facts are facts

Haven't Ya heard? GM cars will be made in China now. Yup. bin hearing that for years now. Some Models have bin made in Canada and Mexico for decades now so why not China. Sad, Very Sad.

@HemiJB91

4 жыл бұрын

Robert Mamarella they tried shutting down the plant in Canada

@ElGuapoDodger626

4 жыл бұрын

One of the many reasons I purchased a brand spanking new Texas Toyota Tundra.

@DMTruckSpotting

4 жыл бұрын

Canada’s better than Mexico

10:00 Am Germany actually

🚫I hope the government stops buying there junk postal trucks !

@macneoh7418

4 жыл бұрын

Was you laid off from Lordstown?

Get engineers to head the company. Make good vehicles and the people will buy them.

10 years later and now they are crying to the government for EV subsidies.

Would be nice if GM would merge with Tesla and call it GM Tesla. To get into electronic cars.

@coochieinspector2125

5 жыл бұрын

they will probably poison tesla

@AmitSharma-re4xu

2 жыл бұрын

@@coochieinspector2125 yep

This was in the same time the sold off a lot of their divisions, including poor EMD.

Next video, The Decline of the New York Times. While they never were great they are now just another National Enquier. To the lady at 2:00, What's a pension?

I have promised myself not to buy GM cars which I have 2, Buick Enclave and an Chevy Uplander. My replacements will be either Cysler Jeep or Toyota. Mary Bara is crazy, she is making sure that GM will no longer be a respectable company.

Germany invented the car actually,, Carl Benz 1885. The "Mercedes" part came after when a friend of Carls who owned one of his cars, had a daughter who was Named Mercedes, was infatuated with it and called it "her car". So her parents (Carls Friends) called it,"Mercedes's Benz and the name stuck.

I own a 1992 Chevrolet Lumina Z34 still have this car with over 260K miles on the clock I bought it when I was 18 Years old. I am 38 now and even though my stomach is closer to the steering wheel than Id like it was is a good car. I've owned really nothing but GMs after a 00Bonneville in college and then a 01 Deville DTS. I loved my cars but with the issues I've had I can see why GM is in the position it is in

Hmm gm needs pay back bail out? O_o

Never saw so many unhappy people for GM!

People need to understand that GM is in business to make money, if something is not making them money, they’ll hey raid of it.

So did the Chinese who bought GM force it to failure or could they not stop the bottom from falling out.....!

History repeats itself

GM made the biggest mistake in selling their diesel bUs division in 1987. Their buses were top notch

They have increased since then

America is not bailing out GM again

Pention what's that they still give those out

Why should they get health insurance paid for by the Federal Government (Me and you), when I have to pay for my health insurance, $0 paid for by anyone else but me. No pension more me.

Interesting. My goodness. Nothing has changed. Our automobile companies are in the exact same boat. Absolutely nothing has changed except that which the government has offered. Even aspects of our government have offered to change directions. Our car companies have done nothing. It is if these Detroit auto companies pretend they are US steel companies. Our steel companies do absolutely nothing to improve. I think we all know how such a situation might evolve.

they will continue making buick in korea

@Trillionstockcom

5 жыл бұрын

Buick is Made in CHINA not Korea and NOT made in Buick City, Flint, MI U.S.A.

GM is no more GM.

who can afford $50,000 to $80,000 dollar trucks!

i'm a very loyal American, I believe in buying American. I'm a veteran. I won't however buy an inferior product at a higher price just because it's built in America. I'm a truck driver, my primary vehicle is a pick up truck, an American pick up truck. My friends drive pick up trucks. My friends who buy pick ups are discussed with the poor quality and unreliability of their trucks. Brand new trucks breaking down within the first couple of weeks. Trucks that have the same faults like cracked dashboards that go on for years, unresolved. I have family members what own Honda and Toyota cars and both are higher quality and last far longer. The same applies to motorcycles. I love my Harley Davidson but friends who ride Honda Gold Wings don't have near the problems I do. I'm begging American industry, please, build a better, more reliable product.

The auto industrie was a desaster for this world. Some things are good even if they bring pain. Build cars that are small lightwight and use less energy. That´s the way. Integrate living into your towns again. Don´t drive that much. My fellow germans are also crazy about cars. This idiotic industrie ends in the next 25 years!

@carlossaldana3962

6 жыл бұрын

pcuimac 8 year + reply

The good GM cars are rear wheel drive and have push rod V8 in them and some of there V6 engine are real good like the trail blazer and GMC Envoy and the Buick rainier and there S10 and GMC Sunoco

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

GMC Sunoco?

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

The Trailblazer, Envoy and Rainier had a inline 6

Toyota motto: "Quality now, business success later" UAW motto: "GIMMEEEE THAT'S MIIIINEEE!!!!"

I blame the old CEO and the stakeholder for bad decisions. You can't blame the union worker. It's started back in 1978. But I gaurteed that with GM closing. The CEO will get big fat bonus for closing. I thought that Trump had magic wan to save jobs. Lol

This report is long on "whats" and short on "whys". Much of the whys can be traced to the unions ripping off the company for decades.

They should export to other countries.

I was gonna buy a new car until Obama force us to buy health care, that was my nice truck payment!

My 2004 toyota tacoma prerunner is been getting all kinds of accessories because it still ran like new. I dont need a new one specifically gm

The sound of the videos is not good

I do not understand GM, especially policies in Europe. They left Belgium Antwerp hub some 12 years ago. They went on selling cars under the Opel brand and some Chevrolets. Then they withdrew Chevy from our market and only kept the Opel brand. Last year they moved their Opel division to France and raised prices. Opel is not cheap anymore and Chrysler is taking over their share. As a result of that you hardly see no Opel cars any more riding. Last week I was In France where their market share was relatively good I thought. I saw almost no Opel cars anymore. For me GM will leave Europe for good soon. I myself have a Opel and quality is good. I do not understand what they are doing. The thing is that GM has an range of brands with which they can operate on our market at very competitive prices. There is an existing and workable dealership network. I guess they fell asleep ...zzzz...zzz... WE NEED NICE AND FINE SMALL AMERICAN CARS !!!! DO YOU REALIZE A CASCADA COSTS 40 K???? THERE IS NO ASTRA GTC ANYMORE !!!! THIS IS AMERICAN KAFKA !!! GM MUST UNDERSTAND THAT GERMANIC MINDS DO NOT NOT NOT BUY FRENCH CARS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GM? HALF OF MY FAMILY SKIPPED TO HYUNDAI ALL FORMER OPEL CUSTOMERS. Give Opel to the Germans like it was before.

The govt...we, the people, should never invest in a car company again. If they fail, they fail. GM pumped out crap for year. They are simply reaping the reward the deserve.

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

That's funny, all I buy is GM I never have any problems

@Trillionstockcom

5 жыл бұрын

@@anthonywebber2211 How about your CHINESE MADE BUICK ?

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

@@Trillionstockcom Like the Buick Envision that was intended for the China Buick Envision US Sales 3o,152 for 2018 Buick Envision China sales 191,029 for 2018 Buy more and maybe they'll make it here

If they had made robust and reliable cars like Toyota they won't died a death like this !

@sixmile2360

6 жыл бұрын

Smart DRC Its an old video. GM is highly profitable now.

@Sephivoiceactor

5 жыл бұрын

@@sixmile2360 thats why its laying off so many folks, right?

@sixmile2360

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sephivoiceactor Unfortunately they are slashing costs ahead of a mega investment in next generation e vehicles and autonomous vehicles. I get it but dont have to like it. I am 3 months from retiring after nearly thirty years as an engineer at GM. My home plant (Poletown) is being closed. I am devastated. The employees at the plant are like family. I understand why they are doing it but it hurts none the less.

@TheRealZJE313

5 жыл бұрын

DRC all the good cars that are Rear wheel drive are robust and reliable that GM make

@TheRealZJE313

5 жыл бұрын

@@sixmile2360 I am a die hart chevrolet man I owen a 94Limited Buick Roadmaster that is rear wheel drive.go tell yo CEO to stop making front wheel drive junk cars.really I mean y did GM turn well known model from back in the day to front wheel drive junk?example 94 - 96impala SS to front wheel drive junk

What about Tesla? Let’s build electric vehicles in North America natural gas cmon let’s get to work again. Subsidies to actual companies that will use existing infrastructure in Detroit such a heartbreak

Right to work state

The truth is they make interesting products but never can sell them. The dealerships and company is too old school. I used to carry a GM card and got points saved. Never did I end up buying a GM product because I never had a feeling the car was going to last. Dont get me wrong I find the Camaro and sports models very interesting but they can never convinced me to own their product. 10 years after bail out and back to square one. CEOs are still overpaid for bad decisions. Corporate America, bah!

Gm is out of bankrupt the new Camaro helped that

@nandernugget

6 жыл бұрын

The government helped with that actually.

@kevin12697

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely wasn’t the Camaro

@philiphoward1731

5 жыл бұрын

The new Camaro is a step in the right direction they should’ve built the Chevy impala with a V-8 engine rear Wheel drive but General Motors is too stupid to do that that’s why they’re building all these ugly little Cadillacs before some wrenches nobody wants to buy the dumb things this should be your big beautiful Cadillacs with big beautiful V-8 engine is

@match328

5 жыл бұрын

@@philiphoward1731 that's exactly the problem you v8 people are too die hard to the v8 engine which led to GM to keep building cars with v8s no one wanted to buy v8s with gas prices going so high which led to people turning away from GM and going to Honda and Toyota. That's exactly why they never built a v8 impala and why you'll never see one again. This isn't the 70s where gas was 70 cents a gallon any more

@anthonykeaveny8860

5 жыл бұрын

And think about this ! GM spent a fortune here in England advertising the new Camaro. When the cars arrived they had Left Hand Steering !! No-one bought them. They could have sold in England, Ireland, Africa, Australia. Japan. with Right hand steering, (I forgot New Zealand where they also used to buy US cars).

This documentary doesn’t deal with the real reasons behind the decline of GM

Should not have changed the good model to front wheel drive junk

@JeepCherokeeful

5 жыл бұрын

AI3xZJE41 YT yes, a significant cause of demise of the American automobile. And the government played a big part.

They should have sold Saab to bmw

Scab company, builds in Mexico and sells to Americans and Canadians. If the VIN starts with a 3 means it is built in Mexico. If it starts with a 3 it is not for me.

@timbrown1947

5 жыл бұрын

Screw Canada

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

@@timbrown1947 Screw you too

@timbrown1947

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony Webber You Canadians don’t deserve American jobs US>Canada Hopefully those Canadians lose their GM jobs

failure, no, think about what gm produced you should be proud what you made

GM is starting to get smart, they are starting to restructure and starting to move into vehicle's that can compete with Tesla. Don't underestimate GM they just need a push in the right direction. Example diesel electric semi trailer eg tractor trucks. Can't keep Saudi Arabia going forever.

don't worry. GM will be a Chinese or Mexican company soon

GMC now stands for General Motors China.

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

Hey stupid we get 2 vehicles from GM China, and GM builds 17 vehicles here in America

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

GM have 37 plants in the US

GM failed because the autoworkers union put their boot on the neck of the corporation and made GM uncompetitive in autos. They could only compete in trucks and luxery cars where profit margins were larger. Lower priced cars were sold at a loss commonly.

@Trillionstockcom

5 жыл бұрын

Not even Close! Union Wages were only 10% of GM Production Costs, and these Careers Provided Great Pay and Jobs with Benefits. Go back to your Minimum Wage McDonalds Job

History

The lady at 2 mins.. " idk what i'd do " Get a degree/trade like everyone else. The postwar, 20th century glory days are over, sweetie.

@radiofreeurope

5 жыл бұрын

The sheer indifference to the years of work that someone has spent is astonishing with your comment

I love it. “Lose my pension “ how about you save a portion of your check and put it in a IRA, like the real world?

@tspenceriii

5 жыл бұрын

franimal007 where r u from?

@marcharris2734

5 жыл бұрын

What a stupid comment

@rickloera9468

5 жыл бұрын

So what you are saying is that it is ok to promise something, like say a pension, then turn around and take that away from the worker because management doesn't know how to manage a corporation. The good news is that the people at the top will be sure to get their golden parachutes. Just saying.

USA didn't event a car. German, Karl Benz did it.

@RADIUMGLASS

5 жыл бұрын

George B. Seldon built a car in 1879. It took 16 years before he was granted a patent, but he filed his patent in 1878 years before Benz.

There smaller pick up trucks

Toyota Tundra is built with more AMERICAN parts than GM's Silverado 1500

@timolson515

5 жыл бұрын

Now that's extremely interesting! Do you have a source for that information that you could post? I'd like to take a look at it. Thank you.

@NMBSUMMER

5 жыл бұрын

@@timolson515 www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/top-10/top-10-most-american-trucks-for-2015.html

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

I don't Edmund's takes into account that there are 2 plants in the US that builds GM full size trucks

I’m loyal to the Chevy Silverado but I hate the culture of GM and the UAW. GM sold out their workers and the UAW made it impossible to remain competitive.

@scottmann4093

5 жыл бұрын

same thing happened to the US Steel industry. The United Steelworkers made it almost impossible for domestic steel manufacturers to compete with foreign steel. Read the book Playing Through the Whistle about the steel industry in Aliquippa, PA and its rise and downfall. Union contracts made firing someone virtually impossible. Gave workers 6 weeks paid vacation every few years and the performance / productivity bonuses were set so low that pretty much everyone got a bonus for simply not being late to work. Paying people $75k for $50k worth of work versus China paying someone $10k for $50k worth of work is a recipe for disaster in any industry.

The Jeep Cherokee and compass are made in India.

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

For other markets you tool, the ones we get in America the built in Toledo Ohio (Jeep Cherokee)and Mexico (Jeep Compass)

@brycmtthw

5 жыл бұрын

FCA builds vehicles all around the globe for local markets. India builds for India. China for China. North America for North America and Europe, Europe for Europe and North America. The only imported car from India is the Ford Ecosport... GM imports cars from China...

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

@@brycmtthw GM have 37 plants in the US, so not all of them

@brycmtthw

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony Webber GM imports the Buick Envision and Cadillac CT6 PHEV from China.

@anthonywebber2211

5 жыл бұрын

@@brycmtthw 30,152 Envisions were sold in the US in 2018, they sell that many Envisions each month in China

Incompetent american car maker is incompetent. :)

The should restructure their business

She retired after 22 years of working. I think we just found the problem.

9:00

@lewkapital1564

5 жыл бұрын

9:21

@lewkapital1564

5 жыл бұрын

3:6666666

@lewkapital1564

5 жыл бұрын

90:1

GM=Great Mistakes

with the rise of tesla, expect worse GM

@Jesseeps20

6 жыл бұрын

ed tyler this is 2008-2009 you liberal headass

@enda0man

6 жыл бұрын

still applies today

@OneManOnFire

6 жыл бұрын

As of today Tesla isn't looking so good

the Host just lets people say what ever they want to he should not be a host push over guy

I will never buy a GM car because of how poorly they run everything.

In fact up till now only GM proclaims a total conversion to electric cars by 2020. Other brands don't do that.