Your reviews are the best around James so professional and appreciated. Have been watching you for a couple of years from NZ and I just see you going from strength to strength have a great upcoming season mate and thank you.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks man! I really appreciate the good words. Hope yours was as well!

The best review on KZread about Step On series, really appreciate it!

@thegoodridesnow

3 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

great review thank you so much

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I just got the 22/23 Genesis Step On with those exact same photons paired with a Burton Process Camber. I’m loving this setup in Michigan with my young kids (4,7,8), learning to ski. The step on allows me to get in and out quickly to help my younger kids and keep up with my oldest who hops off the chair and it ready to rip. Also, being in Michigan with very short runs, its great to be able to get in and out easily. I still kept my traditional boots/bindings combo for my Custom X in case I get the urge to do something different.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to give us your take.

Great review. As someone who used the step on’s from 1999/2000 these are a game changer. And when you are 51, can’t really push yourself forward and fall regularly these are the way to go. It was really telling how many instructors I saw with these.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your take!

@guillaumeg.5821

2 ай бұрын

Hi, I’m « only » 45 but I confirm your comment. Bought the genesis step on few days ago, for me it’s a game changer, as I’m not really athletic and slightly overweight I had rally difficulties to attach regulars bindings. Now it’s click and go. As mentioned in the video it’s true I find it a bit stiff probably because of the boots being attached to the binding on the back, but I believe it’s a habit to take. Other than that I felt absolutely no difference vs standard bindings, I think there is a bit too much over thinking on the feeling overall, these are great binding, click and go.

@stevef

2 ай бұрын

@@guillaumeg.5821 Couldn’t agree more!

Awesome review man. You did a really good job describing the difference in feel between straps. Really makes me want to try a set but I probably won’t get a chance unless I buy a whole setup, hard to justify. My first snowboard ever had a pair of K2 clicker/shimano steps ins back in the day. I loved just rolling off the lift and bombing runs as fast as I could. Makes me want to pickup a camber board again, I think a custom x and step ins would be a good bombing run setup. Does board stiffness change your recommendation at all for those bindings?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! The First Cut and Step Ons would be a great bomber combo. Stiffness is one consideration but it is also sidecut depth/how a board initiates a turn and other factors when determining the kind of binding you should choose for the board.

if you loosen up your boot just a little, a lot of the stiffness of the original step ons goes away. Just think of your boot as the new binding because your binding is basically one with the boot since they are locked in together. hopefully that makes sense lol

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you brought this up. I should have mentioned that with the new Photon's I went more loose than I normally would. I do that with every new boot as they are very responsive before they break in. I'm also not one to crank down my boots or binding ankle straps even when they are broken in. So yes they are less responsive loosened but still much more responsive than most traditional set ups no matter how you look at it.

@SlingShotKid007

Жыл бұрын

Good point!

@guillaumeg.5821

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely ! I’m doing the same to compensate some of the stiffness feeling.

Great review!

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@SlingShotKid007

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow When you say too responsive / stiff does that mean when you land jumps if you don't land perfectly you will go on an edge?

Thank you James. I have the 2019 step ons and my understanding these are easier to get in and out of and have improved toe hooks. Going to order genesis

@thegoodridesnow

6 ай бұрын

Glad it helped.

great review - can echo your findings as a Genesis / Malavita fan boy now on step ons. Also worth noting, if you get the option to try the Kendo Step On it softens up a notch more, especially laterally... Photon Step On always felt a bit m'eh tbh

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your take and good words. Ha! You read my mind. Burton is hopefully sending me a pair of Kendo Step Ons to test. Cheers!

I love your videos dude! thank you for posting this video. Im going to get the step ons either way but Im at a rock in a hard place on what version to choose. It's between the reflex, reflex x or genesis reflex. Im leaning towards the genesis. I had a question for you when you say the reflex X and reflex are more "responsive" do you mean its easier to whip turns on your toe and heel edge as well as stop and start on a dime ? What binding do you think will be better when doing those things?

@thegoodridesnow

5 ай бұрын

Many thanks! Yes. Kind of like you described edge to edge. I would say all 3 are more responsive than almost any binding out there so lets start with that. For me with the Photon and Ruler's I tried they are too quick and can make some boards feel hookey and sometimes it can skid out a turn too fast for my taste. They are mellowing out the boots and even have the Photon Soft which is very diffrerent than my experience. So if you want a more normal response go Genesis/Photon Soft. If you want something close to hard booting if you pair it up with Ion's go X/Ions.

After being out for a few years, its easy to say these are great, just not for everyone. Its awesome that there is the option. I have some back issues so this was a game changer for myself.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your take!

@theblishknovk

Жыл бұрын

Same for me. Got hit by a car on my motorcycle 7 years ago and pretty much blew my lower back up like a grenade. Just got the step ons because i have a hard time doing the straps. Get ultra stiff in the winter.

Hi James, Sick video. Do you think the step on genesis would pair well with Korua dart 156? Or because of the board stiffness You think the normal step on would pair better? Thanks!

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think the 156 Dart will pair well with the Genesis.

11:33 these “two hole” positions baseplates have one hole centred , and one offset. The offset hole acts essentially as the heel/toe hang correction and you twist the baseplate 180° whichever way needs the adjustment. Still less adjustability than some bindings but atleast acts as the normal 3 hole boot centre options

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your take and bringing this up. I've been testing this more against the old 3 hole re:flex disc and you get more range. Testing against most non-burton bindings' discs there is much more adjustability. I'm finding when helping friends on the lower or higher end of the recommended sizing, this 2 hole 180 degree flip disc barely helps center the binding/boot on board.

Hello James. Thanks for this review. I’m very interested by Genesis step on, do you think that the new boots « Photon soft 2023 » would be better ? (ride all-mountain) Good ride

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

No problem. Haven't tried them so hard to say. Like the concept though.

Great video. Could be cool with the same test but with the Photon SOFT SO boot. and the Genesit SO binding, to see if that helps with the lateral move!!

@thegoodridesnow

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Asked to try those but waiting on Burton.

Thanks a million for this review, wondering if the 23 model bindings still have the same “click” sound problem from earlier models? Looking to upgrade from 2019 vers, but wont bother if same problem still exists??

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good words. They seem to have fixed it with the new design.

Been watching all your step on videos over and over, and I still can't seem to make a decision, so your expertise would come in great! I went with the Yes PYL Uninc per your recommendation (with the Burton Photons), but now I want a pair of step on bindings for them. I'm undecided if I should go with the regular Step On or the Genesis step on. Seems to me after watching both your reviews for the regular Step On and the Genesis is that the regular Step On is going to be a bit more responsive, but the Genesis is a bit more forgiving and comfortable. I really appreciate responsiveness but is the slight loss in responsiveness with the Genesis overall worth it for the greater comfort and flexibility for my med/stiff PYL Uninc, or would you go with the regular Step On for the greater responsiveness? Thanks in advance!

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Dont know what binding yiur riding now, but since its not a step on your going to get a massive increase in response by just going to the gensis. The gensis step on and photon step on are going to turn the pyl uninc very quickly. And like i said, the increase in responsiveness from regular bindings to the step on is so much that theres no need to spit hairs with responsiveness. The genesis will have a better overall feel. Photon step on boot and genesis step on binding

hi i just wanna say awesome review !!! i have re re:flex step on myself, i am wondering if i should get Genesis for my second board. i am mostly doing ground trick ,spin, and ollie on my second board. do you suggest another pair for re:flex or Gensis step on ?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! So the Genesis Step On will match up better with your second set up for sure. It is still pretty locked in compared to non Step On bindings but that is the only option in Step On.

I think you got me at the flex part of the fix. I'm buying this shite right now! My right boot shoe fell apart today 😅 time for Step-On!

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Ha! Hope they work for ya.

@guillaumeg.5821

2 ай бұрын

How has been your experience with those ?

Great review! Have ridden all these, I agree with you. I prefer the responsiveness from regular step on and Step on x.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks Jay!

@floz9718

Жыл бұрын

May I ask what you used before and what your rding style is? thx

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

My full time job is to review snowboard gear so I've used about 200 bindings before. You can read about me (James Biesty) and my riding style here thegoodride.com/about-the-good-ride/

@floz9718

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow Thx but I actually meant @Jay C :D As a longtime fan of your site I know your riding style and preferences pretty well ;)

@jayc3723

Жыл бұрын

@@floz9718 I do all-moutain freeride. Had Step on Ion, Photon, Swath as well as regular SLX with Malaviata bindings. I prefer Step Ons in general.

Just ordered the Genesis without seeing them in person. Loved your review. My only question is the toe hooks on Genesis are now a thin plastic that looks like it will eventually break. The Reflex tow hooks seem more solid and I want my gear to last. Just wondering what other people think about this. Considering switching the the high backs to make my own Super Genesis.

@thegoodridesnow

11 ай бұрын

Thanks. I wish I could give you a take on long term reliability but just don't have enough days on it yet to tell. This also isn't my primary binding. I don't ride Step On when testing boards due to the limited adjustability and the locked in responsive feel isn't my thing. Hopefully others can chime in on this.

Amazing review!! i am thinking on getting both the phantom step on boots and the genesis bindings. My feet is 28 cm long, what size of boot do you recommend? just 28? or maybe 28.5 or 29? thanks in advance!

@thegoodridesnow

9 ай бұрын

Thanks. 28. Burton fits true to size. Go 28 Wide if you have wide feet.

I keep coming back to these and nearly pulling the trigger... And now I genuinely need a new binding set so it's even tougher. My biggest thing is a back injury from nearly 10 years ago now.... I definitely feel simply bending over again and again and again throughout a ride day. But even then I'm not sure the system is ready, or that I am. Really damn tempting though.

@thegoodridesnow

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it will be easier for sure and you won't have to bend over as much or as long. I would see if you can demo Step On somewhere if you can.

Do you have any insight into how the Step-ons compare to the Nidecker Supermatics? (Obviously besides the advantage of universal boot compatibility)

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Lots. Review and comparison is coming very soon. I tested the Supramatic, Step On, Genesis Step On & Clew bindings. I also did same day comparisons.

This is Everett reaching back out to you about those toe clips for the step on bindings. Heard back from the warranty team and they said they have to be sent in to get fixed. Can't send out any spare parts for those unfortunately. Not even our Flagship stores have the ability to order them in and replace them at the store. I get that it's super frustrating, cause I MTB as well and know it's super easy to fix that part. The reasoning is just for liability reasons. I'm on your side where I think it's a little ridiculous of a policy, so I feel for you. Hope you have a good season though, and please hit me up if you have any other questions! Best, Everett W Burton Hybrid Guide Burton Americas

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this.

I have circulation issues in my feet really bad but love ultra response so im wondering if i can keep similar response as my strap bindings without having to crank down so hard on that ankle since the heel is so locked to the highback.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you will probably have more response with Step On. That might help for sure and if you have wide feet try the Photon Step On Wide. That might help you too.

Totally need a side by side review with Nidecker Supermatic 🙏🙏

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

It's coming...just soo damn behind!

Nice review/comparison, thx. I feel like they could come very close to a traditional binding feeling if they managed to make an EST- version with the hinge tech... I hope Burton is working on something like that. I don't know it that's possible though - I guess the boot cannot move too much in the binding to prevent the toeclits to pop out. I suspect that's also the reason why they didn't implement a full EVA footbed in the front but put some hard plastic underneath ot prevent the boot from sinking in too much and might compromise the holding mechanism... I'm not planning on getting on step ons anytime soon - especially since I still have 3 pairs of Adidas boots, which even though far from perfect, they are still the best fitting boots I ever had for my feet). I still follow the advancements of the tech and I'm quite interested in how they evolve... I definately want to test them out sometime to see how they feel. I can see myself ride them in the future when my riding gets more tamed. I can imagine that these bindings could be very comfortable because your feet are not "pressing" against an ankle strap on a toeside turn but "pull" the heelside up. I like alot of ankle support though so it might not be for me but I guess I just have to try them out.. the problem is that Burton boots don't really fit me that well. The biggest news however is that Nitro joined the in this season and is making Step on boots as well - that's awesome. The biggest problem of the system is that your feet have to agree with the few boot on offer otherwise you can forget about it again right away. It's really too bad that other companys like K2 came out with their own system right away to surf the wave again instead of biting the bullet and make boots for Burton's system - especially when their system is clearly inferior to Burton's. Usually competition is good for progression and the consumers but in this case it's just stupid.. if not more boot companys join the step on system, it will fade away again in a few years...

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and contributing to our relatively new channel.

@floz9718

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow Sure, I'm a longtime fan ;) One question: how did you feel about dampness? Do the step ons feel more damp or more lively in comparison to the reflex version?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I forgot to put that in the vid but in the review on thegoode.com I did a write up on shock absorption and dampness. Just about the same as regular Re:Flex bindings. A little less with the plastic on the bottom of the gas pedal but overall pretty close.

@mackakiwinz4353

Жыл бұрын

Being a bit older 54 although in shape and fit and having a full quiver of boards and bindings to choose from I find myself riding my step ons and photons probably 60 % of the time especially when riding shorter groomed runs as the convenience of very rarely having to sit on your ass and all the associated movements I can then put into riding is invaluable 🤙

Bought the Photon/Genesis step on combo, gave them 4 full days in UT. I’m going back to Jones Mercury/K2 Thraxis. Almost immediately I missed the dampness of the Jones/Now bindings. The step one are very harsh and you feel every bit of chatter. I didn’t think the step ons were that precise, they kind of feel like loose bindings to me. My biggest complaint is just the foot fatigue I experienced, going back to the old tried and true.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your take. Yeah coming from NOW/Jones everything feels less damp. At the time I write this, they are the dampest/most shock absorbent bindings we have tested.

Have you found the Genesis give more toe drag then the cartel x/ cartel. I found this with the my older malavita and my wife’s binding that’s similar to the genesis in the past, gave 1/4”-3/8th more toe drag because of highbacks. I have the micro adjust disc for my cartels, don’t normally use toe to edge. How’s durability with new Genesis high back? I Keep reading their breaking or maybe that’s the older highback? Thanks

@thegoodridesnow

7 ай бұрын

I haven't done a measurement myself but heard from people who own both that the toe sticks out a little more with Genesis. Step On Adjustability is almost non existent so there isn't much you can do if you are on the upper or lower end of sizing. A two piece system with a much softer hammock high back isn't as durable but what I found is most break if you bring your foot from behind the binding up and over. Some accidentally step on the high back instead of into the foot bed. That can sometimes break it.

@KGK560

7 ай бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow Thanks ,so your saying the previous reflex gen and the latest reflex gen both give more toe drag? Hammock looks like it sits up higher and not down by the heel cup like the old version.

@thegoodridesnow

7 ай бұрын

I thought we were talking about Gen 1 of the Genesis Step On since that is the review you asked this question on. New Genesis Re:Flex and EST are better than past gen. Sticks out a touch more than other binders but better for sure.

Ia the new Burton Step-On Genesis 2022-2023 color truly white or is it blue-ish ? Thanks!

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Very light blue.

I've been riding the Genesis X EST for some time on a Custom X and they are dope 🔥. I want to try step on but i dont know if these are too soft for my Custom X... What do you recommend? I also dont like the fact that the step ons are not EST... Is there big difference on that as well? Thanks bro 💯

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

No they will work better with your Custom X vs EST's. You will get more response as well as more symmetrical response. You will be able to butter a little better and get more pop with the EST but it is pretty close. See if you can demo them to know if they work for you.

@Neguz305

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the help... Now I dont know if to get the step on genesis or the step ons X.. Im use to a stiff set up and I heard that the step on X respond better on stiff board like the Custom X

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yes the Step On X is more responsive but it's almost Hard Boot responsive. The Genesis Step On is another level up from your Gen X EST's response wise. On a same day test between the Genesis Step On, Cartel X and Genesis Step On nothing came close to the Step On. So in comparing Step On bindings they are all on another level compared to the most responsive strap binding Burton makes. Step On, Genesis Step On and Step On X are all shades of ultra fast and all can easily power or even overpower your CX.

@Neguz305

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow wow ok, thanks a lot brother, that really helps 👊💯

Thx a lot for this review. I'm 43 and I have started snowboard with a hot blast 161 in 95 . With years I've switched to all Mountain FS and I'm still riding a skate banana 2009 and a TRS 2019 with Genesis 2014 "classic" bindings and a pair of Burton Ion 2015... New detail : I'm a father now and I've totally tilted when you stepped out of the lift in a sec... I'm actually at les Arcs station so I totally see the point of Quickness of the step on system. Also, I've quite the FS aspect of the ride too. I've Never let the carving aspect of my ride (hot blast forever :) ). So i was wondering to go through this step on solution with the Genesis step on my boards (banana for the fun, trs for the fitness 😏) or thé "classical step on Burton" and also in case of switching, your advice also on the ION vs photon boots (step on of course). Many thx in advance.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good words! I would go Genesis Step On and Photon Soft for your riding style unless you like stiffer boots. Then go Photon or Ion step on.

@stikmoodood

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow Genesis SO and ION SO ordered ;)

@guillaumeg.5821

2 ай бұрын

@@stikmoodoodso, any update ? Do you like your new set?

@stikmoodood

2 ай бұрын

@@guillaumeg.5821 Yes ! Genesis step on Burton ION SO: stiffer than the normal ion Really fun & secure on the LIB TRS. I didn't try on the skate banana. negative point : the seam on the top of one boot has been cut. I don't know how but it looks like seams are fragile....

Did Burton improve the design of the outer toe hooks 2.0 or do they still break?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Good question. They have been improved and worked very well when I tested them. However, I can't speak to their long term durability.

@AheadInkSMP

Жыл бұрын

​@@thegoodridesnow I've had the Step Ons since the first release in 2017. I get about 20 days in per season. Never had any issues with these bindings.

So I just got the 2023 step on RE:Flex bindings and when I am adjusting the high back for more forward lean, There is no indicator that I can find for what my forward lean is and if they are even and what not.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, like I said in the review, adjustability is very poor with Step On Bindings. I would bring a tool to the mountain and go with what feels best.

@s1k_azure

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow older models use to say ‘F1, F2, and F3’ I’m surprised they just removed it. Kinda makes me mad xD

One thing a also like to know is how this system affects the footprint on the board. It looks like the heel-cleat adds quite a bit of bulk and pushes the boot more forward in the binding while on the heelside - like on most setups - the heelcup is the limiting factor in terms of booting out - at least it looks like that in the videos I've seen. How do they compare to a regular boot - binding combo in terms of footprint?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Great point! So the cleat at it's furthest most point sticks out 1.5cm. That being said the cleat does attach well inside the highback. I don't have a Step On binding to get the exact measurement but it is probably around 5mm. I'll look into it more when I get my hands on another step on binding. 5mm is a good bit in snowboarding so you are right. it does push the boot up more towards the toe side edge than traditional straps. The Photon 9 Wide boot I own is the same reduced footprint as every other Burton boot.

@floz9718

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow I would love to see such a comparison even though with my size 9.5 boots I would be fine on almost all boards but it sure would be really interesting for the guys with bigger feet to see a direct comparison to see how much edge angle/footprint over the board you are sacrificing (if any) if you are going with step ons vs a "normal" Burton binding- boot- combination. I noticed that my Adidas Acerra sticks out more over the toeside even when I only swith between my Cartels (old design) and the Malavitas which have the added "bulk" of the heel hammock and a slightly different highbackshape which doesn't agree with my boots aswell as the Cartels (there is no percievable difference in performance though). So I suspect the step on mechanism at the heel, which requires quite a bit of added material, will add a substantial amount of footprint.

@kaskar

Жыл бұрын

Trick is to use some old Burton 4x4 discs. They fit it the binding but will give you an extra set of holes in the disc for more versatility in mounting.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

@@floz9718 Thanks for that info. Very helpful! The next time I get on Burton Step On I'll for sure try to get regular bindings do do that comparison.

I have the 1st Gen Burton Step Ons. Is it worth upgrading?

@thegoodridesnow

7 ай бұрын

Not if the old ones work well for you. The ride is very similar. It's been more functionality upgrades vs. how it rides. I would say if you want more mellow response then yeah go Genesis Step On.

Any chance for a neversummer hammer review?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Already up and not changing in 2023. kzread.info/dash/bejne/omeGpq9ykaXdgbw.html or the full review on the site. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/never-summer-hammer-2022-snowboard-review

Yo, are you aware of a called jimny or the Midwest Shredder? He's done loads of great reviews of the step ons and answered lots of questions and given hints and tips about them. Well on one of his most recent videos he posted he had taken the top part of the hi back off and says its great and shows you how to do it. Would be good to see and get some feedback from other people thar have tried it, so what do you reckon? Give it a go and see what you think.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

Are these the new bindings releasing Oct 18th this year?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yes

I'm going on a spontaneous boarding trip tomorrow and I forgot to buy the Burton step-on-system AGAIN this year. I am so angry with myself.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

What bindings do you have now?

For someone who likes to bomb and lay trenches - I ride Union Falcors on a Ride Commissioner right now - which setup would you say is the closest?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

I would go regular Step On With Ions. They are more damp than Step On X's. Compared to Falcor's they are way more responsive. It is in-between hard boots and the most responsive strap in boots. For some it's too much and others love it.

Something is different. The comment section is open 😊

@MoritzPilz

Жыл бұрын

Wonderful 😌😊

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Time management is getting better so opened them up. Cheers!

@con5tant

Жыл бұрын

Having the comment section closed really stunted the growth of this channel. Comments provide engagement which increases the algorithm.

I'm a beginner, really. Just a very few seasons. I suppose the step ons are easier to use to start. Am i right? Tks regards

@augustospereira2934

Жыл бұрын

Im a begginer too Fabio, and just bought a step on. The regular step on binding with the Photon. Hope it works

@fabiomab

Жыл бұрын

@@augustospereira2934 Thanks!

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Yes they are easier to get on which is very helpful learning. The extra response can be too much for some learning but overall I think it's a good choice that you can grow into.

@fabiomab

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow Tks!

Would the X be more ideal for just deep carving turns?

@thegoodridesnow

3 ай бұрын

Kind of but its more for those that love excessive response or have a very challenging board to initiate a turn with.

@tribalart88

3 ай бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow maybe the genesis might be more ideal for the Korua Cafe Racer then?

@thegoodridesnow

3 ай бұрын

Maybe but the Cafe might like a more responsive binding depending on your specs. Hard to say because I know almost nothing about you. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

@tribalart88

3 ай бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow all good, just sent you a few details. I already follow your channel with its helpful reviews. Keep up the great work and l guess l’ll be hearing from you via email 🤙

No, you actually still have 3 options in terms of centering the bindings. Try to rotate that disk 180 degrees, and try to mount it. If it doesn't make sense thinking about it, try actually mounting it. You'll surprise yourself. Please know the product well before posting a review.

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing out what I missed.

Something you keep saying is very confusing: “the genesis step on is not as responsive as the regular step on.” However, Burton advertises the genesis step on as stiffer than the original, but not as stiff as the X. Somewhere in the middle. Can you clarify what you mean by “responsive”? Thanks! Edit (Jan 22) - spoke with Burton tech on the phone. The Genesis is not made of the same materials as the entry level Step-on, and if not for the high-back, the stiffness and responsiveness would edge (ever so marginally) toward Genesis. The high-back mesh/cushion creates the comfort that somewhat reduces the response and makes it feel less stiff than the original (and that's why it's rated not-as-stiff on their website). Seems like it's the best of all worlds!

@thegoodridesnow

5 ай бұрын

Not sure where u got your info. Burton rates the Genesis Step On as less responsive on the US site, and nowhere does it say what you just said. Most importantly, I rode all three with the same boot and know what I felt. I like the ride feel better of the Genisis though.

@portlandiego

5 ай бұрын

@@thegoodridesnowawesome - thanks for the reply! you’re my first ever reply on KZread (I’m a noob at interacting like this). I saw the slider on the Burton website and it shows the basic step on stiffer, you’re right. i was racking my brain on where/who told me, and it was the guys at EVO. something along the lines of “the materials of the binding are stronger/stiffer than the basic step on, but the hammock makes it more comfortable” …. 🤷🏻‍♂️ The EVO product description says this: “A step up from the basic Step On, the Burton Step On Genesis Snowboard Bindings are a bit stiffer, adding performance to their outstanding comfort and ease of use.” Sounds like that description may be inaccurate? Those guys do have a lot of Burton reps in/out of the shop so maybe there’s something to that? No idea. I’ve been riding step ons for years on all mountain boards, and trying to buy a new set to put on my Flagship - was just trying to dial in the right one to match the stiffness of the Flagship. Thanks again for responding! 🤙🏼

@thegoodridesnow

5 ай бұрын

They didn't say more responsive but did say stiffer, and that is inaccurate. It happens with big stores. Evo is a great place to buy from, but always try to get info from honest, objective, independent reviewers. It is a step up in terms of design, and like I said, I like the overall ride better of the Genesis vs. the regular Step On. More response doesn't mean it's a better binding. All three Step On bindings are super responsive compared to most strap ins so it's not super important. If you need real advice hit me up here and I can further help. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

Did they do something with the heal play issue or this is the same as the v2? kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXqezLmEpqaqops.html

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

I just tried with mine and there is very little to no play when you weight it down. I tried with 2022 Photon and 2023 Genesis Step On.

My difference I found was while the genesis x strap bindings' buckles failed completely in cold weather with little use the step on genesis had no buckles to fail! So that a plus in the step ons... That said I had to contend with the step on genesis step on bindings losing both hammocks, the rear gas pedals, and the rear toe clip wearing to the point they failed by day 60. So yes, we can compare crap with crap but why would we when Union is a company?

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your take and bummed to hear both models failed on you. Those are 2 major strikes against Burton and that would for sure turn me off on another binding purchase. I personally own and test boards/boots with Union these days but in the past when I tested with Burton (80-100 days a season) I never had issues. I hope others aren't experiencing similar long term issues like you have.

@trex2957

11 ай бұрын

@@thegoodridesnow I just got a pair of strap Burton Photons and going to Courchevel for 80+ days end of year so will see if the photons fall apart. I don't think it's my riding style... They have taken strap boots that are stiffened all over and left toe box an unreinforced double stitched seam. No problem whent he boot is held down by straps... but in step ons ALL forces are applied to that seam because of those rigid toe clips and pull on that seam... I bet (like my strap rulers that are 60 days and like new) the strap photons will last the season without falling apart... I got them with the credit for the step ons so if they fall apart, Cest la vie. An experiment.

@trex2957

3 күн бұрын

So 65ish days on new non-step on photons and they're pretty much like new. Normal wear, they won't last forever... My style is aggressive, I like doing big shifties and I actually carve. No jumps. So yeah, the stepons and photons were ruined in one season. Their non-step ons are good for a second season. Expensive system that's only value for casuals/beginners. There's a reason you can't rent these things... At least anywhere I've gone.

Great video but you are repeating yourself with quite a few sentences, keep it up!

@thegoodridesnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the constructive feedback. Will work on that.