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dope design, not sure if I have ever even heard of Cardiff
I grabbed the 156 a few seasons ago and love it! I’m about 185 6”0 and my boot size is 11.5. Watching this video makes me kinda wish I went 153. I usually ride a 159-162 and was happy to downsize but also was scared to go too small.
Glad you like it. We liked it smaller but it's all about personal preference so you might have the right size. If you get to demo a 153, thought, it would be great to hear your take.
Finally, you started bending boards and talking about flex correctly! Because before that it sounded like nonsense. You took the board in the middle, pressed it and said how hard it was between the inserts)) In any case, it was good, because you pressed it and everyone saw what they needed.
Yeah, I never cared too much about how a board flexes in studio vs. talking about how it rides on snow. I should have, though, and will do in the future. One thing, though, @KostyaSanSnowboarding. Please keep it constructive but friendly if you plan to comment here again.
I recommend to test the Burton Fish Mine77 in 156. It has the same shape like the 2006 Fish, with a decent camber. I love it with my 9 boots on grommers and in pow. Give it a try or test it. I think you will love it!
Agreed. I rode the old Fish with camber and that was really fun. Burton just didn't have it for demo. It's hard to come by the late release/Mine77 products though.
How would you compare it to Korua Otto?
Otto is more stiff, much more directional and has much more set back on board for pow. This is much more centered and much more playful.
Perfect review as always ! Seems that you are on a trail of reviewing Jones 2025 boards. Hope to see an update on the review of the Storm Wolf in 158. For the 2022 model you constantly said that you would like to try the 158 instead of the 162. Hope to see a review of the Freecarver 6000 as well to compare with the 9000 :D See ya
Thanks! So rode the 158 and liked it way better for my specs. Cant find the review and footage anywhere...fuck!...sorry. 6000s is coming and so is the Flagship Pro but its not coming next. Soon though.
Nice Blue jacket.
I tested this tent on decent rain ( >3mm rain - 3 to 5 hours ) The top ventilation when its fully open, it works great ! However, the little stick that keeps the ventilation open will touch your inner tent mesh and will veerrryyyy slowly creates condensation on your tent top mesh - Suggested to close your top vent during heavy rain condition. The awning when its fully open during heavy rain. Sideways wind will blow some rain inside your inner tent. Suggesting to close down your awning and not fully open. A partial closure with awning facing down 45 degree works well but if you open your awning 90 degree, chances are some rain will get inside. BA didnt send enough stakes initially. Suggested bring extra stakes and also upgrade your BA stakes as they seemed inferior.
Thanks for your take
If you put that camber profile on the mind expander doesn't that give you the powgoda?
Good question. More similar for sure but each would still have their own personalities with different flexes and sidecuts.
Thanks!
A big thanks right back atcha!
Thank you for the review. I purchased the 164 based on this review. Its nice to find boards with a larger waist width. I am 6'3" 240lbs size 14-15 feet crammed in 12 Vans infuse. Looking forward to it for next season and no more boot out.
Right on. That will be a lot of fun for you. Oh man 12's on 14-15 feet? that sounds like it hurts. with the 164 you might be able to pull off 13's or 14's and maybe get rid of some pain.
Thanks for the review, how does it compare to the Korua Dart with the new camber?
I have the same question, I want to take one of these two boards to Japan
@@marcyotei The Storm Chaser has a very short effective edge compared to the Dart, In my case focusing more on all mountain, pow+carving, I would be leaning Dart. I am sure James would give you good advice for Japan, but they are 2 very different boards for pow IMO, like the SC is a short fat and the Korua is more meant to be ridden bigger.
It really depends on how you ride and your specs. If I were going to Japan, I'd bring the Gentemstick Barracuda, Moss Jellyfish, and Korua Pin Tonic or try other longer Gentemstick and Moss rides if I was riding really low-angle pow. The Dart and Storm Chaser would stay at home. What is your boot size, height, weight? Also what do you have in your quiver now? If you want to do this properly, hit me here to get the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Two very different rides@ANETOKILLE. The only thing they have in common is the swallowtail design. The Storm Chaser rides a little shorter/wider, has a lot less taper (1.1cm less), rides a little less setback. and carves more on the back foot. The Spoon nose has a smoother turn in pow. The Dart rides a little longer. I would ride the 156 Dart and the 152 Storm Chaser as daily drivers for groomers and pow. I'd only size up if it was more for pow and clean groomers only. It has more camber, and drives really hard off the front foot on groomers. It's got a much more tapered/Nose heavy feel in comparison and it doesn't ride well unless you ride that very posi.
Long time coming. Thanks for the review! Did Davey boy get on it? Love to get his thoughts. I have the 159 already at home, so very interested to hear thoughts from big guys!
Thanks! No he didn't. They only had a 152 and we weren't sure about the 157 since he's 40+ pounds over the recommended weight.
Always thought the storm chaser seemed like a super cool board, looks like they made it even better! I agree though, the simple black (and even black and white topsheet) is more fun for me
Yeah, It wasn't a deal breaker but it would have been nice to have.
Thanks for the review!
Burton Flying V was always my least favorite camber profile that they made. I miss their S Camber boards for powder, but they discontinued those in favor of Directional Camber instead which is pretty different. I still have my 2013 Burton Barracuda with the S Camber in a board closet in my house, but I admittedly don’t take it out very often because I have so many other boards with newer tech that I prefer to ride on a powder day
That was such a great board for the time.
@@thegoodridesnow yeah, I love how surfy the Barracuda is, turns off the front foot, yet rides off the rear foot. It’s a real shame they aren’t making new S Camber boards with the latest tech
Have you tried the Moss Jellyfish? You might like that if you liked the Barracuda.
@@thegoodridesnow I haven’t ridden the Moss boards yet, I was considering buying Winterstick, Gentemstick, and Moss powder boards in the upcoming season though. Those are all pretty pricey but seem like they’re worth the money
How does the new force compare to the atlas 21? I have the atlas 21 kazu with the strata ankle straps, are the force still softer?
If you have the new 2021 with rubber in the heal instead of foam it's a big difference. Much more shock absorbent. A little less response but close enough for me not to need more. High back is a little stiffer with the Force too. I recently switched over to the new Force just because I need more shock absorption and I'm not missing the Atlas.
loved the review. i'll definitely buy the 23-24 model, i don't like their new graphics lol. thinking about going 142 as i'll mainly use it for buttering. i'm 5'7 130lbs with 7 boots. would you go for 142 or 148?
You are in between sizes. What make/model/size board do you ride now and how do you like it/how does it feel size wise for you?
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for your reply! right now i'm using a nitro optysim 2022 147. i don't dislike the board, but i don't think it's the right fit for me. i've lost the tail while buttering a lot. i think the size is good, but i feel like smaller would fit me better.
I rode that Optisym a while back. Very fun but pretty soft. They make it in a 149 and 146. Can you tell me which of those 2 you have?
@@thegoodridesnow whoops! all this time i thought it was 147. i just checked, it's 146!
142 Twinpig will do then. Cheers!
Rubbish product. I rode them for 70 days. The toe box disintegrated starting at day 35-40. By day 60 the toe seams were gone. They're not engineered to withstand forces applied to the toe clips. The genesis stepon were just as disappointing - held together by little plastic clips that break, gas pedals that fall off, and hammocks that snap off. I know this is the hardware not the rider because I bought non step on photons and used last season for 60-70 days and surprise-surprise, the toe boxes haven't fallen apart. Junk, but if you like getting a few weeks only, or you're super casual and skid your turns and ride like a nanna these might be OK. Just look at how the hammock is attached - it's two little plastic pegs (that snap) and a pop rivet sent through plastic. If you don't see that is rubbish... Well. Think again when it snaps off and you only have s one season guarantee on that highback. The positives definitely do not out weigh the compromises... And I say this taking my non step on photons from last season and Union atlases to europe for their second full season. The step ons were unrideable failing $#@& by day 60. (rear) gas pedals lost, highbacks snapped off, rear toe clips failing on the first heelside. If you get this system ffs don't get photons, and def not genesis. Loved them for the first 2-3 weeks, until bits started falling off, and then boots started failing.
I am contemplating this snowboard or the mystery edition of hometown hero. What's the difference between the two and which performs better ?
Unfortunately I didn't try the Mystery HTH so it's hard to say unless I actually ride it. I will say that these ultra-light high end boards aren't for everyone. Sometimes you pay more to get less so make sure you are a lighter rider and you see lots of good conditions. Or you are willing to compromise stability in uneven snow for pop. Otherwise you might like the regular models better.
Snowboard content in the summer, I love it! Also makes me mad! I want snow 😆
Ha, preach! --- Ghhhhhh, summer. *Sticks head in freezer / daydreams*
James, you might disagree but to get more float you should've been on the 153 or 155. Your specs are too big for the 150. No wonder it struggled to float. Not fair to compare it to bigger directional boards with set back.
I think you missed my point and I didn't compare it to bigger directional boards. All boards compared had the same or less surface area which is massively more important than length. The 155 pyl uninc is almost the same, but even the 153 Standard Uninc and Standard, which are directional twins with less surface area, have better directional float when using the set-back inserts. So it's not sizing it's just about explaining that this has no real directional float compared to other YES boards readers might be considering. If you watch the whole Pow chapter, you will see I said it's good for a twin but not for people who want to set it back. Lastly, my specs work with the 150 and 153 but not the 155 for a size 9 boot. Just too hard for me to turn. The 150 worked very well on groomers. The 153 would as well but they only had a 150. That's why I compared similar surface area boards to the 150.
Hi, I'm 5'11 boot size 10 weight 210-220 lbs, debating should i get the 160 or 164 dart, or maybe the pencil 164 ? looking for a carving/pow board good for trees maybe manuerable and agile , maybe can do a lil jump
I'd say you are between the 156 and 160. The 160 is a good fit for your weight but the 156 for your boot size. If you want control the 156 would be the choice. If you want more float and speed the 160 would be the call. Only go 164 if you only plan to ride it in super deep pow.
Love the content to tide us over waiting for next season. Just curious, any plans to review next year’s BSOD? Put in a pre order and interested to hear some thoughts if you had a chance to ride it.
Many thanks. Yeah it's in the works but it barely changed. One minor but good thing is it has a better set back on board with a narrower stance width set all the way back. The rest of the ride is almost exactly the same.
Thank you! I rented last year’s and loved so glad it hasn’t changed much :) Looking forward to the video but no rush.
I’ve been riding the custom since the early 90s. IMO, today’s version is a great option for a RAD DAD quiver. Burton needs to up their graphics game though.
Interested in the frontier, im 6ft5 200lbs size 12 boot, riding big mtn/all mtn, steeper lines, trees etc what size board you think?
I'd probably go 167w. That's a good fit for you. 164w could work too if you want more control and an easier turner at the expense of speed and float. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow have you demo'd the Ride berzerker? So far that's my board of choice I'm thinking
yes. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/ride-berzerker-2012-2024-snowboard-review here is my take. I prefer the Jones Frontier better but it's all about personal preference. If you want a super turny board then the Berzerker might work but it can feel hooky if you try to straight.
@thegoodridesnow I base it off who designed the berzerker and his riding preference, ive seen it mentioned a lot of how the bezerker is great for "turning" to be honest
@thegoodridesnow I do appreciate that review, the Frontier I was really considering, fast lines big mountain alpine is in the picture, cheers
Hey James, been following your channel for years and i love your content! I am currently riding the burton skeleton key but find that it is too slow and isn't that quick when it comes to turn initiation (i am 130 lbs and size 9US boots). i'll be heading to Niseko next february and am looking to shop for a new board. Which of the Korua line would you recommend for someone that enjoys a fast and nimble (quick to turn) board that can carve the groomers, but at the same time is a fun board that can powder surf in Niseko's snow condition?
Many thanks! So what is your height and what size SK do you have? Or if you want to do this right hit me here so I can get all the info I need to give you real advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/ . YT is not a good place for me to help.
Sawyer TAP is a great filter. I also have the Dual Threaded MINI, and a bucket adapter kit, as a backup system.
Hey everyone. There is an error in the sizing chapter 0:34. It's supposed to be a 25.8cm waist and I forgot to mention that with a 1.5mm bump on each side of the waist it's more like 25.5mm compared to other boards without a bump there.
Exactly the same shape and sizing as the Indoor Survival, but different core and camber profile. Looks like a much more approachable ride compared to the I.S. One thing, the 156cm waist width is 258mm, not 252, but obviously that includes the Death Grip.
Ah shit! Fat thumbed that in sizing. Thanks for the heads up. With death grip its more like 25.5.
Hi mate thanks for this review! I have the cafe racer from korua am keen to upgrade my ride with more response via stiffer boot and bindings. What would your advice on the boot binding combo be for the CR. I am currently on a burton ruler with union force on it, with +30 +12/15 angles, 19 inch stance as I'm short at 167cm. Love the CR150 really digging trenches now with people hiding in them 😆
No prob. So I think you could get the most bang for the buck with more responsive boots. The Rulers aren't bad out of the box but soften up over time. Going with something more responsive like the Ion or SLX but those cost a lot. The Driver X might be too much but it might work. If you want other boot recommendations hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Glad you enjoyed it James. I'm a little heavier and a size 10 boot but wanted the 154 for park/allmtn and she still rides like a champ. Beloved board in the quiver 🙏 ❤️
I have this board and definitely the best do it all board, park, resort, and powder it can do everything. Just the graphics could be better
One of my favorites. Love this for small, Midwest hills. Oddly, I loved it in slush.
Good to hear and thanks for your take. What size did you ride? What's your boot size, weight and height?
@@thegoodridesnow boot size 10.5. height: 5'10. weight was around 170 then? I think I was on a 158, might have been a '56, Id have to check my notes. I rode the 2024 as well the season before last. I test for a local shop in Michigan and had a couple other guys try it out, even a brand new rider. Everyone loved it.
Thank you for the updated review! The clip at the end is great. The good old days of TGR when only the website was there. Thank you for keeping one of the best gear reviews that we have. Greetings from 30 degrees hot Germany where currently soccer is the only topic 😅
Many Thanks @benjaminsimolka7187!
Really good reviw! Thank you!
Hi, nice review. Any chance you can advise minimal width stance on the inner most binding setup? Cheers
Sorry but I only had the board to review it and don't have that info.
Yo! When are we going to see the review for the new Storm chaser???
Hopefully 1 month or less but if you want to see what I think of it now check out YT Members or Patreon. I've put up several vids and comparisons with the Storm Chaser there. www.patreon.com/thegoodride
I'm 6'5 205lbs usually riding a 166 for big mountain pow cliffs etc, should I look at the 162 version of the excavator? I feel better about a 162 than the 158 Superpig I was looking at, it's scary dropping that much in size for big mtn lines etc
Need your boot size.
@@thegoodridesnow 12/13
Yeah it's hard to know with such limited info but these boards are meant to ride shorter/wider for bigger riders. You aren't heavy and your boot size isn't too big which is much more important than your height so 158 or 162 could easily work in the Excavator. 162 if you are 13 and 158 if you are 12. 158 Superpig is even wider and will feel more aggressive than many much longer traditional freeride snowboards. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow will do, appreciate it
Could 164 for 9 boot size be ok? 190 lbs and 5.7 boot 9 and ex carving good skill. should go for 164 or 159? tnx
159 is a super wide board, so you don't need more at your specs. I'd only go 164 if you want the biggest/widest/meanest carver, have a very supportive/responsive binding and are only going out in clean conditions. I'm a size 9 US, 185-195lbs and 5'10". I've never wanted more than the 159 and it's not always easy to control.
@@thegoodridesnow tnxxx .🫡🫡🫡🤘🤘🙏🙏
Good review. Surprised to see a tent review from you guys.
Thanks. Yeah, we camp a lot, so we might as well.
Great review. In the market for a new boot. This might be it.
Thanks. Hit me here if you If you want to get into it more. I also get the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Love mine
Been looking for a quality review much appreciated!
Many thanks!
I dont recommend sunglasses. Use actual ski goggles. You can get freeze.
I can only wear ski goggles in super-freezing cold conditions, but in normal weather (98% of the days I ride), I can't. They fog up. It's best to have my Goggles in their goggle sock in my backpack. They never freeze or fog up there.
Phenomenal review lads. Smith are legendary. Have the embark, deckboss, lowdown, 4d mag etc and I find myself continuously reaching for them over my vast eyewear quiver 😂 as nothing IMO compares or performs as consistently well. Only drawback here in New Zealand is price. You certainly get the quality if you have the dollars.
Many thanks and thanks for your take.
I bought this board in 163 in the inaugural year of its release for the 20/21 season and having had hundreds of hours with this particular board underfoot, I can tell you that it’s the most intense and aggressive freeride board on the market. Maybe only the Capita Black Snowboard of Death truly competes with it, but this board is even better in my personal opinion. I haven’t bought the redesigned version yet, but I’m planning to grab the 24/25 164W once preorders open up because I think I’d appreciate another half centimeter or so of width as well. I think the thing that most surprised me with this particular board has been the powder performance. I didn’t buy this board for powder days, I have other boards in my quiver for that, but I’ve taken it out in powder several times anyways because I like this board so much and wow, just wow, this board absolutely rocks the whole mountain in every known condition possible! The only thing I wouldn’t personally do with this board is hit rails in the park, it’s not a jibbing board whatsoever, but besides that, it really can do it all and the board sticks landings on cliff drops like nothing else out there 😁
Thanks for your take.
Awesome demonstration and explanation, thanks a lot!
I’m glad I waited to buy one of these until the 2025 preorders opened up. I saw a video with Arthur saying they were working on wide versions and with my size 12’s I really felt like waiting was the right call 😁
I think it’s weird that Burton only made the Territory Manager for 2022/23 and then immediately discontinued it even though so many riders gave it favorable reviews 🤷🏼♂️
Burton does that a lot.
@@thegoodridesnow yeah, but usually not on the boards that got such favorable reviews and sold out so quickly haha
Unfortunately they do. Check thegoodride.com to see all the 1 season boards they made that rode super well.
@@thegoodridesnow interesting, I’ve only noticed them discontinuing the boards that still had enough stock for spring sales in the past. I thought this board sold out prior to March 2023
They are much further ahead than that design/sales wise. Stores are taking orders from Brands almost a year ahead and Brands are planning their line 2+ years ahead. It was already long gone by spring 2023.
Red jacket looking TIGHT !!
That skyline fuse jacket is beautiful
Thanks! It's the best jacket I've ever owned.