Bully SE - Why DON'T Clique Leaders Spawn In Freemode?
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One of the things many people agree on with Bully, is Rockstar missed a LOT of potential with the clique leaders, as they just.... never spawn in freemode, despite the fact there is a lot of evidence that all leaders were going to appear outside of missions, which raises the question - Why? Why did Rockstar sorely underuse these characters?
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I believe that the main characters should atleast have been added to free mode after their plot ends
@soksok6614
2 ай бұрын
exactly this
@SiIhou
2 ай бұрын
Exactly. It makes no sense how after Busting In Part 2, you never get to see Petey again, of course you see him in the ending, but he just disappears
@beuthen8562
2 ай бұрын
@@SiIhou indeed, especially frustrating on console where you cannot mod them in
@justanotheranimeprofilepic
Ай бұрын
Seriously if Zoe gets added in during endless summer why doesn't everyone else except Gary
@RaithCA
Ай бұрын
@@justanotheranimeprofilepic Gary got expelled at the end of the game...
They could've appeared after their respective chapters ended and after the story as that's when peace has been brought to the school
@MarcPare2006
Ай бұрын
You can use Unofficial Enchantment mod cuz all the leaders are spawn after you complete all chapters until Endless Summer
@-rockmusiclover-
Ай бұрын
@@MarcPare2006 No thanks
@ARG_Records
Ай бұрын
@@MarcPare2006No thanks
@MarcPare2006
Ай бұрын
@@-rockmusiclover- well pwk you then
@MarcPare2006
Ай бұрын
@@-rockmusiclover- well get a life
One of my favorite tricks is to throw Gary in the trash right after the first cutscene.
@Journey_to_who_knows
Ай бұрын
You can also drag him to a toilet and do the animation lol
@14ev5
Күн бұрын
I never tried that on him , i always fight him 😂
Wait until Bully Kiwami with the Gary everywhere addition.
@cynderdragon100
2 ай бұрын
"James-Chan!"
@TrippyShasta
Ай бұрын
Lmao omfg
@xxtesticlexx2688
Ай бұрын
"Gotcha now Jimmy-Chan"
@Imtrane15
Ай бұрын
I LOVE Yakuza 😂
@redned4802
Ай бұрын
RGG studio could definitely remake Bully or A sequel. The only thing that would need work is if they can pull off the Western world in A believable way.
But the real question is, why don't any of them appear AFTER the story ends, considering Zoe as a student does?
@geggy310
2 ай бұрын
Zoe appears during the story before chapter 6
@anti-palurdos
2 ай бұрын
as the other guy said, zoe does appear after the story ends
@geggy310
2 ай бұрын
@@anti-palurdos But I've seen Zoe in free mode during chapter 5.
@anti-palurdos
2 ай бұрын
@@geggy310 yeah, that's what you said on your past comment
@alexhodder4918
2 ай бұрын
@@geggy310not in the school tho
2:28 she appears in free mode in the game, I've seen it before. But she is still aggressive to Jimmy even after Revenge on Mr. Burton.
@MaxerV19
2 ай бұрын
Yeah she does appear
@Stupid-Little
Ай бұрын
Everyone knows Zoe appears in Freemode, she will continue to be aggressive to Jimmy until after "smash it up"
@weirdface1846
Ай бұрын
she appears after smash it up
@justanotheranimeprofilepic
Ай бұрын
Yeah she is still coded as a townie so she's hostile until jimmy beats Edgar
it makes sense but I'd still love to see them in freemode at least during chapter 6 :( great video tho
About the voicelines thing, rockstar really loves to put stuff in that you were never supposed to get Like how girls have voicelines for being stuffed in a locker despite them being hardcoded to instantly break out when you grab them Once again in Gta sa main characters like Pulaski and Toreno have voicelines for being held at gunpoint despite the fact that it's impossible to do without mods
I think you make a great point, but overlooked one key issue... Zoey spawns in free-roam after beating the main storyline, and if all the other NPC's did after the main plot was solved, it wouldn't cause any issues! Aside gary, I think all main characters and leaders should have spawned in free-roam!
@FF7TlFALOCKHART
2 ай бұрын
Gary should spawn at blue skies and get bullied by townies 😂
@bullworthless
2 ай бұрын
@@FF7TlFALOCKHART or maybe even an asylum patient in happy volts lmao
@colesteadman8107
Ай бұрын
@@FF7TlFALOCKHART Could've sworn it said somewhere that he does spawn in Blue Skies sometimes in the original version. Not Scholarship or Anniversary.
@BellyChuggy
Ай бұрын
@@colesteadman8107 I might actually try to see if that’s true
4:37 wtf happened to johnny and lola 😂
@TheNathanNS
2 ай бұрын
Puberty
@MaxerV19
2 ай бұрын
Ah hell nah bro isn't 17 he's 43
@AkAymanee
Ай бұрын
@@MaxerV19 bro should be retired by now not in high school
They could unlock the clique leaders in free mode after their respective chapters end, I can't see this being a problem for the plot, in case of Pete and Gary, R* could simply code Pete to not hate Jimmy even after everyone hates him in chapter 5 and Gary was expelled after the last mission so there's no way he can be in free roam
Another I will say. Russell is only clique leader to have conversing lines too during freeroam which I heard Russell was talking some things to clique members whereas other leaders don't have them. they just don't say a thing while their fellow members talks about things.
Bro you still making these videos on this game makes me so happy,there always guaranteed to be good :)
i think it's because you can defeat them before you just do the missions to beat them. But Russell is spawning in freemode tho..
@EstoulsAruta
Ай бұрын
Not everywhere like the rest of the Bullies, though. Russell only appears in certain spots: school car park, entrance gate, and beside the boys' dorm.
In the mission Slingshot is basically the first time when you knock out a Clique leader, in this case Ted in the football field when he is training, is the one with the number 0 and you can interact with him if you fail the mission by letting Mr. Burton see you
There could’ve been ways to get around this. Gary and Pete could have been put into their own cliques. Pete could have been maximum opinion of Jimmy from the mission that they first meet, and Gary could have been maximum until his betrayal. Gary could have only appeared in free roam until his betrayal, then disappear as he becomes the main villain and gets expelled. Might’ve been something to have Gary appear in the town afterwards, with negative opinion of Jimmy. The clique leaders could’ve appeared after their respective chapters. Also odd that other characters don’t appear. Dr Crabblesnitch never seems to appear in free roam. Nor do most of the teachers.
I always found it weird cause in the rare cases you can see them, they have social dialogue. You can spawn Ted by failing Slingshot
@TheNathanNS
2 ай бұрын
Spawn any of them and they all have the same amount of dialogue as any other NPC, lines for being hit, lines for conversing, lines for being surprised by pranks etc
Fact you can use Unofficial Enchantment mod to make all Clique Leaders to spawn permanently after completing Chapter 5 also same for Pete
Im sure i seen Johnny only once during free roam walking from the school parking lot and knocked him out in scholarship edition
It’s so simple what Rockstar should’ve done while you’re playing through the game none of the click leaders or main character spawn. But once you’ve completed the game all the main characters and click leaders spawn in free mode. Rockstar missed a trick there
Yes I’m glad you made this video cause this has always annoyed me after your analysis during the main story makes sense but I wish they was in free mode after the main story I also think Ted should of appeared more in the jocks storyline
Video idea (if you hadn't done it before): Ranking every bully character on a tier list
Great video bro i was always wondering why the Leaders doesnt apear in the main story or after you end it However if they do apear it will make nonsense like imagine beating everyone in the first or second chapter then for you you are the king instantly but for the game you are just beating random npc 😂
I have been debating this tysm for answering it your the G.O.A.T
How can I mod asylum inmates to spawn in free roam? Is there a mod already for that?
There could be a mechanic to make Pete behave nice to Jimmy and Gary behave aggressive, just like the mechanic of when you kiss a character and you will keep 100% respect with him/her forever even if his clique doesn't respect you.
A lot of unused and cut stuff definitely hindered the game in my opinion. I still love the game, but seeing a lot of stuff cut from the game such as dialogue, activities, characters, missions etc. it definitely made the game feel very stale with the dialogue in missions for example over the cut and unused ones in the beta, where they actually have personality in the missions and talked more, rather than 'existing npc enemies', since they aren't like that in free roam as much.
I was never able to get all the pictures for the yearbook, I still needed Gary…
I really gotta get a pc or something. I wanna mod bully and bring back unused content into the game
rockstar could've added a small chance that clique leaders spawn in their respective hideout after their chapters
I seen Johnny at the auto shop area hanging out
I swear Ive seen derby a lot in the boxing area and vincent i think you can find him randomly
Seeing Pete throw hands with Jimmy is absolutely hilarious.
Yeah but, after final showdown ends, it would have made sense to then add the clique leaders to free mode. I would've loved to go and beat Derby's ass Everytime i boot up the game, but instead, bif is the one that ends up getting the beating.
@kanethesevenfootmonster868
2 ай бұрын
You Probably Have Trouble Beating Bif in The Boxing Gym.......
@theanimatinggamer2264
2 ай бұрын
@@kanethesevenfootmonster868 Nope. Bif has trouble beating me.
@TheSultan1470
2 ай бұрын
@@theanimatinggamer2264
@thechosenone2123
2 ай бұрын
To everyone out there, BLOCK this GTA 5 fanboy weirdo named "@anotheryoutubeaccount5259". If you as so much even criticize Rockstar or the overrated dog💩 GTA 5, this whiteknight fanboy will get triggered and try to shame you. He'll be taken care of soon though. Either way, my advice to everyone is to block him so he cant see your comments and wont be able to pester you.
@theanimatinggamer2264
Ай бұрын
@@TheSultan1470 bif*
They could appear in freemode after you beat the game: Endless Summer chapter.
Finally!
Isn't there a code that makes kissed characters have 100% faction with Jimmy till the end of the game irrespective of the clique respect? They could've reused that code with Pete but it's only true for him from the beginning till the end since he's Jimmy's friend from the start.
After chapter 1 Russel becomes a possible follower, we can pay him and he will follow us around in free roam and fight alongside us. Other cliques also have characters that can become followers after their chapter ends, but outside of Russel none of them are the leader of their clique, I think it would had been better if the characters we can recruit to follow us around in free mode were the leaders of the cliques. We may never get a bully 2, but imagine if we could call any friend we made in the story and hang out like in gta 4 and 5, or be like in saints row and they would fight alongside us, making some missions easier.
@kanethesevenfootmonster868
2 ай бұрын
Excelent Idea!!!!!❤❤
@Imtrane15
Ай бұрын
Ain't wrong though,that would have been great!
I love that History Matters reference
@TheNathanNS
Ай бұрын
Finally someone noticed it
they are with gavin
You can see Russell in free roam. He is a clique leader
@FF7TlFALOCKHART
Ай бұрын
I think we all know this 😅
Why would they
@thechosenone2123
12 күн бұрын
Cry kid
I honestly love your videos my guy😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 #BullyFanForLife
They should’ve just made the clique leaders spawn after their respective chapters. Or just in chapter 6. Wouldn’t change much
Keep it up
All the clique’s leaders were misleading playing for the first time
I always mod in everyone possible including the unfinished characters, my rationale being that the inconsistencies you bring up are already present all through the game. I can beat the mayonnaise out of Algie every time I see him and he'll respawn in the next room I go into, as friendly as he always is. I can stuff Constantinos into a locker, go outside and there he is, being as annoying as ever. So does having the clique leaders really make the world any less believable? I get why they did it but if the devs had more time they could've made it so you unlock each character in free roam after defeating/befriending them. And Pete 100% should be in free roam, one of the reasons he feels like such a minor character is how little we see of him, we end up becoming more familiar with the random non-cliques than with our supposed only true ally. It adds something to the world-building watching him get bullied all the time.
0:19 the fuck is ross kemp doing in this game
Well, they could put the faction leaders after you beat them at least (with the exception of gary)
Its make sense for Gary to not spawning in the game, he's planning for something else all the chapters, but the other leaders dont make any sense
As a programmer, the "greeting" from no-clique is pretty much laziness from rockstar.
I was more pissed about Gary and pete these 2 are meant to be your friends and in Gary's case your rival and you dont really see him sadly. It would be cool If Gary antogonized Jimmy but like in rdr 2 you cant really attack people
"Sam?" "Yes?" "There is a small problem with spawning the characters in free roam..." "Does this break the game?" "No, but..." "Great, leave it like that, you still have to code a town shooting for Red Dead Revolver"
On yearbooks
What do y’all think would have happen if Gary never betrayed Jimmy
@TheNathanNS
2 ай бұрын
Sheldon would be the final boss
@Richtofen-gy9cj
2 ай бұрын
@@TheNathanNS I'm gonna kick you in the kneecap
@Lemonbus
Ай бұрын
@@TheNathanNS Young Sheldon 😱
the clique leaders are pretty cool
50 seconds in and the video could have ended.
@TheNathanNS
2 ай бұрын
tbf that could apply to about 98% of KZread videos that ends with a question mark
I don’t get it
What's up with the slowed down creepy music in the background?
why moderators doesnt make a beta verison of bully @theNathanNS