BUILDING BETTER BASSLINES (In Live Eurorack Modular M8)
Today we mess with a very simple patch concept I've been using to squeak out funkier basslines from my modular (eg: not just the same pattern repeating over and over, able to self-evolve). HANDY INFO BELOW:
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Further Reading:
▶ Illustration of the patch:
editor.patchandtweak.com/patch...
▶ Stoichea (Euclidean Sequencers Explained) Video I mention: • Euclidean Drum Sequenc...
▶ Attack Mag article about bass patterns: www.attackmagazine.com/techni...
▶ This modular on ModularGrid: www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/v...
Modules I'm using:
▶ 2HP Euclid: www.twohp.com/modules/euclid
▶ Music Thing Turing machine: musicthing.co.uk/pages/turing...
(But the principles can apply to many other modules of course!)
▶ VMPE Euclidean Circles: vpme.de/euclidean-circles/ (Now in V2)
▶ LS1 Lightstrip: www.sound-machines.it/product...
Other good stuff mentioned:
▶ Thonk Prok Drums: www.thonk.co.uk/product-categ...
▶ ALM MCO: busycircuits.com/alm021/
▶ Tiptop One Samplers: tiptopaudio.com/one/
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Please mr. Mylar keep making this style of video, you kinda came off it for a while.
love the format of this video. in depth showcasing a modular while taking us on a techno journey
"I already had the things I needed to do what I wanted to do. Just think the problem through" BARS.
I feel like pitch changes are more important than gate patterns, because the same repeated pool of notes in the bassline will get boring after a while, regardless of how you play it out rhythmically.
nice jam, my friend. I love this format - mixing a session with a lesson. Great stuff.
I love that you put a lot of care in your video descriptios too. You list a lot of good links and show us patches and your setup. Seriously helpful! Love it!
I love this! It amazes me that I can do a very similar thing to this, but with a completely different process/module set-up (and mean completely different). This is why I got into modular. The creative possibilities are so inspiring. You're inspiring. I need more Turing in my life though.
I'm following you from the beginning, and this is just straight up next level mate! It's just goes to show how much we can achieve when we dive in our modular system and not lose our time searching for THAT module that will make everything happen. And just like a friend used to say "you gotta put the time and make the miles". There's no other way.
Genius. Man, you have no idea how much I adore your videos. Your videos are the most charming, knowledgeable, and accessible modular vids on youtube. I’ve learned so much from you. Thank you.
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bertolt!!! 😘
@ 4:50 😎👌 good on you mate! That’s one of the facets of what makes your vids so fantastic- your willingness to be open to learning on the fly and sharing it. Aces!
I'm appreciating more and more the destructive nature of modular, better tape that moment or it'll only be you that hears it! Very Bill Drummond.
@jwhtn
4 жыл бұрын
Every patch is a sand mandala, existing only in that moment, before I wipe it away. Or at least, before I bump my turing machine and the whole jam just collapses.
@fakshen1973
4 жыл бұрын
It never gives you what you exactly what you want... then comes the moment: "hey that's not bad... actually it's f'ing terrific... I love you Machine-That-Goes-Ping!!!" You've got a pet name for your Eurorack too... don't judge me.
So enlightening, it hurts. Thanks Alex!
Dope! This is really, REALLY useful information! Thank you.
ACE!!! Thanks for pointing this out, think I can get Pam's to modulate itself to do the same!!! Love that you're live jamming rhythms while so clearly explaining what you're doing and why.
Love it. My secret sauce is a Temps Utile Mode, a Noise Engineering Mimetic Digitalis, and a source for clocks and resets. The Temps Utile allows for up to six Euclidean generators. My clock source provides clock and reset to the Mimetic and Temps. I use one Euclidean to advance the Mimetic (N input) and another to alter either the X, Y, or R at specific intervals. The thing I like most about using the Temps for Euclidean is the built in clock multiplier/divider function for each generator. If I'm using the random input (R), I'll let a few notes play linearly before sending a pulse to it. So that way there's always some commonality between each go-round. You can mix and match Euclideans with other pattern generation techniques within the temps, so you can get all kinds of variation. Just fill the Mimetic with notes that work with each other. It's a total of 18HP of goodness and the cost of the two modules isn't too pricey.
Yay! New Mylar! Imagine cutting up with Mylar irl and having a lesson from him - that would be so awesome!
Very nice bass job dude! Thanks for this great explainations :)
This is extraordinarily creative! I'm going to tickle my Turing Machine on Tuesday.
Damn this video took it to the next level with deep synth knowledge!!!!
ACE!!! such an amazing trick, thx Alex
Brilliant vid. Great advice re thinking it through rather than going out and buying a module. Thought as I was watching that I needed the 2hp Euclidean but then thought it through and realised I could do something similar with Pam’s :)
This is sick man!
this was inspirational, thanks mate
Great vid. Informative and entertaining too.
Great video m8, inspired me to try something similar with my pico logic module sending a random gate from the octocontroller and a pattern from Euclidean circles. Worked a treat 🙂
Thanks Mate for this great little Tipp!
Another Creative Solution to Common Problems. :D Liked the use of the Patch & Tweak symbology as well.
Great video. I'd been doing similar things with the Stoichea and a Disting mk4 set in quantised Turing mode but I have to be a whole lot more hands-on to get the variation so your setup works better because of the modulation input on the 2hp module. Nice.
So glad I discovered your channel 👌
Nice video m8. Banging chune.
Came for the bass, stayed for the conducting hands.
Cracking video taught me more about the Turing machine in seconds than months of owning lol
Stellar as usual.
brilliant tunes and technique
The jam in this is so damn good. Also - the patch ideas are exactly what I needed. Picked up a Euclidean circles for my bass voices but now trying to find space in the patterns…
This is fucking awesome. Also you have barely any space devoted to modulation and yet you're still killing it (e.g. the *visible* hands are doing some great work here too)!
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Find the Surgeon - at - schneidersbuero video and watch it all the way through, he actually says something I’ve come to do as well which is that it’s sometimes better to just use your actual hands to modulate - a brain beats an LFO
Been using a similar (in concept) setup with o_C Turing machines and Plonk. Nice!
I had to revisit the comments here because this video is great and led me down quite the rabbit hole of exploring. I have Euclidean Circles and 2hp TM, but I ended up doing something slightly different. Clock > Mutable Instruments Branches > Euclidean Circles > trigger in on Pluck. Turning the probability knob on Branches changes the speed of the clock going into EC which changes the pattern going into Pluck. Sounds amazing!
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Ooh, using Branches to control the clock is a good shout. Need to try that.
LOVE this Cant have Hardware, but built a very VERY similar thing in Reaktor for basses and beats… (sans turing)so watching this was a nice reinforcement of the ideas ive been playing in. Love ya Squoinks!
So fucking dope. Love your beefy jams dude
Love this. Thanks so much. I think you could also cv both cv parameters on the Metropolis too for some interesting variation. AWESOME JOB!
Hey! Nice video, I really appreciate the time you take to explain everything in your patch then the little demo of it ;) BTW I have a question. How do you manage to have your LS1 in perfect sync with everything else ? Got one a few years ago and I had hard times trying to sync it up in rec. mode, even with the jumper set to gate in...
thank you!! you are helping this old dawg learn new trix. Is that V2 and are you using the 6 switch expander?
This is awesome.
Great idea, I have Marbles and a Disting so I'm going to give it a go, thank you.
@jreynoldsish
4 жыл бұрын
Mark McCarthy how did the marbles+disting setup go? I’m just getting into marbles and a brief description of your patch would be rad!
Awesome!!!
Could also achieve that using the output of the Turing as the modifier for the Euclidian Rhythm's on Pamela's New Workout for anyone without the 2hp Euclid :) Lush tunage btw!
@mrsulcus674
4 жыл бұрын
Was just wondering that, in the spirit of "patch it from what you've got" rather than "further empty the wallet" school of synthesis, so I'm glad to have it confirmed!
interesting approach. I might try it with one of Pamela's New Workout channels and modulate E-trig, E-step with an offset.
Easy way to cheat with bass - Pam’s New + WMD Arpitecht Great vid as usual man!
+1 for turing machine. so much fun. Waiting for you or Ben to dissect the sinfonion :p
Thanks for the video. Super useful! How is Stages used on this patch? Do you have 2 LFOs and 2 AD envelopes?
I really dig the chords all being in tune with the bassline, not easy to do in a modular situation.
These rhythms are so dancy!
Nice :) In my mini Modular journey so far I can trig the 2hp Euclid from Roland TR08 and use Pitch CV for notes from the Roland SH01 and have 2hp Pluck play along in the gaps/fills. The 2hp TM just waiting for Tune to turn up so I/it can pluck away to my/itself!!!
Great idea. Instead of buyin g yet more gear, I tried your idea out using one of the channels of PNW in euclidian mode with Marbles modulating the step count, brilliant.
@dev31337
4 жыл бұрын
One other nice thing that you can do with PNW is modulate the gate length to add a little bit more variety / human feel to your patterns.
Nice set-up for this kind of jamming & tweaking. Looks like a lot of fun & sounds very nice. I think the challenge is to have plenty of control without being able to lose control to easily. Quite often with complex patches / set-ups & end up in the 'WTAF is going on here now' kind of place! :-/
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the key balance, what I’m trying to strike - hence using euclidean circles which I can really precisely control and voltage controlled systems for other things!
Awesome sounding jam, whats the voice for the lead that kicked in around 14:03 (is that the MCO or another voice)??
excellent!
Is the 2hp being triggered by a clock from somewhere other than the Turing? This gets at a point of confusion I’ve often had, when trying to trigger gates from some thing like grids, but melody from another module like Rene or Pam‘s new workout that might be operating at different clock speeds.
I keep coming back to this video. I do not own any modular gear but I want more natural and evolving basslines like this. Is there anyway to do this without modular (or a computer). I own a digitakt and have been thinking of using that to randomly sequence my monologue. Is there a better/ easier way to go about it?
this is great! I think you should really look into Qubit Pulsar. I love it for generating random patterns (random mode) which you can change and move around on the fly. My kick channel is usually in Euclidean mode and the rest are just random so I can get very interesting patterns very fast! Its a pain to modulate but I never need to. Once you get used to it its so fast and so powerful for live performances, especially if you like improvising. Unfortunately the videos on youtube don't show its potential. I could make one if you want :)
You da man! Love this shit 👌🏼👆🏼
I understand the Turing modulating the Euclid, and the Euclid giving gates for the bass line, but how is the bass line getting its pitch? Just metropolis pitch to Osc, osc to vca, vca opening with envelope triggered by Euclid?
this is sick, subbed. what module is producing your snare/drums?
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Ta! These tinkers: www.thonk.co.uk/product-category/manufacturer/prok-modular/prok-drums/
I realized that Pamela's Workout has the same Euclidean parameters and you can hit two of them (or once each on two channels) with CV! Might need to get the Turing Machine back in to the rig; looks like I've got just enough space!
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and I totally forgot that when I made the vid!!
I recommend Monome Teletype for all of your generative sequencing needs! I (coincidentally) scripted a quad Turing Machine with Euclidean rhythms for drum sequencing this weekend. Took less than an hour to write.
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
I am really interested in that thing, but I have precious little programming experience (read: none whatsoever) - how easy would it be to learn from scratch?
@DiscoticUK
4 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to see you do a video on the Teletype
@bebop7
4 жыл бұрын
@@mylarmelodies hard to give a trustworthy answer to that Q since I approached it with coding experience. Simple scripts (clock dividers, sequencers, etc.) are about as tough as using a pocket calculator. More involved scripts can get messy, especially when trying to cram as much code as possible onto one line. Come over to llllllll.co if you're interested! Just picture it as "patching with words instead of wires" and you'll take to it quick :)
Hello Mr.Mylar! Moog Mavis could be a better substitute for the MCO in this case?
Pure wtf Major Tom communicating with ground control computer delight.
But, the begining of all. Where is that square wave bassline sound come from? Which one is the vco??? Please.
Hi Mr. Mylar! Silly question, whats triggering the main gate in euclids? From Metropolis? Thanks again for all the amazing videos and extra content!
@juliomontes5525
Жыл бұрын
did you figure this out bro? lol
Trying to recreate this in Reaktor Blocks. Cant seem to find a Euclid block that has a step mod input. Can anyone help?!
Do you recall which modules were producing the kinda acid wobbly part that comes in around 14:00 and what was sequencing it?
Which oscilator / filter combo is making the bass sound?
Could I use those 3 modules with my Behringer crave? To get same rythmic results?
great video, will have to try Pam's Euclidian feature
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Plus you can CV modulate it. Wish I’d mentioned that
Getting some tasty acid there! Looks like it's way more rewarding than checking my emails in Ableton Live...
@redirishmanxlt
4 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha, brilliant!
Great video thanks! i had stuff like this in mind for my rack does anyone know if u can do that turing in euclidian just with pams workout?
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
You totes can.
@tilliinfinity
4 жыл бұрын
@@mylarmelodies THX got to get that thing!
I feel a little dense, but what do your length knob set at in this patch ( i know steps is cranked all the way CCW)
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
I think full CW for 16 step. But you can vary that for busier patterns
Back to this video again. Honestly such a game changer. I’ve been able to reproduce his with an ALA Alan and either Pam Pro (Turing to Euclidean Triggers) or a 2hp Euclid. I’ve had to Sample and Hold the incoming pitches against the triggers to avoid pitch slew. Is this what you are doin here @mylarmelodies ?
@mylarmelodies
Жыл бұрын
Yes, though you can try without sample and holding too - the trick with S&Hing is finding one with reasonably stable pitch when held, Disting is 10/10, as is DivKid’s RND Step
Great idea on using the Touring Machine with the Euclid. I've been developing a patch for sequencing drums and a bassline using a Pico RND(for random triggers) into the dual euclidean pattern generator on the Disting Mk4. The concept is use one euclidean generator for drums, the other for bass, modulating the pulse length with an LFO. I've been struggling with getting things to work the way i want but I think I can apply aspects of your patch to mine to get it all sorted.
@VictorSteiner
4 жыл бұрын
I guess with the Disting as soon as you found a function that you really want to use that needs more than 1 knob you have to get the "real" module. I loved the disting at the start but with more and more modules to learn and know I nearly never use it anymore. Such a shame, but it's the one thing about the Disting that is not perfect (the rest is :P)
@ednasdiscomachine6049
4 жыл бұрын
@@VictorSteiner Disting for a pseudo side-chain is awesome though. I use it a lot! Also, clock delay is great for humanising a drum beat. I actually use mine quite a bit and change the functions too...
@ChuckLeone
4 жыл бұрын
@@VictorSteiner Every module has its limitations, even the Disting. I suppose you could get (2) 2hp Euclids for about the same price and size as a single Disting but then you are missing out so many other algorithms and also possibly drawing more current. Having a really small system, I can not fathom replacing mine with another module - except maybe a Mk5 :)
@VictorSteiner
4 жыл бұрын
@@ednasdiscomachine6049 How do you do the sidechaining?`I never got into that because I don't use mixers but my Quattro Figaro can also do it .. since I'm not into techno I never got to use it .... Disting alone would still be used a lot but I got too much stuff that has too many functions ... PEAKS other mores are something I always have to look up again and again ... Emilie was right about that.
Amazing work and sick basslines! How would you get the euclidean triggers into external gear like a midi synth e.g moog sub37 etc do you have any ideas? :)
@mylarmelodies
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah Befaco VCMC would be good for that!
@gullyman777
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing so many potential possibilities for this *new rabbit hole 😂
Can you explain how the signal path is exactly please! Like which module is first and second and so on ! Huge thanks for this inspiration
I think I must have missed it, but if the 2hp Euclid is controlling the gates (i.e. rhythm), how are you modulating the pitch of the bassline? It kinda sounds like a quantized, very slow LFO or something?
@HiItsCal
4 жыл бұрын
Metropolis was sending pitch cv
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Dean With the Metropolis! More info in this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6KNprRvYcSehKQ.html
I use Qu-Bit's Pulsar. it's too deep, it just simply is, but you can get immediate and near immediate shifting of patterns, which is nice
brillllliant
What is the blinly 3 nob module in the bottom left?
@mylarmelodies
3 жыл бұрын
VPME Euclidean Circles!
The f'ing Turing Machine!
Niiiiiice!
No Plaits Tuner Knob? I inevitably reach for that knob in the heat of the moment and ruin what I am working on. I cannot help it.
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Hah, yep I pulled it off for that very reason...
DECOUPLE the gate from CV - holy shit man.
Nice
Great video! I have a question though. What's the function of the sawtooth wave between the Euclidian out and the VCA?
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@tjelios
4 жыл бұрын
@@mylarmelodies on the patch editor screen (@8:26) the Euclidian out is going to a sawtooth wave before going into the VCA. Can't quite wrap my head around its function.
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Marika Tjelios Ahh, that’s not a saw wave - it’s an envelope generator!! I can see why you were confused, but yeah that’s the EG icon in the Patch&Tweak graphics collection.
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Spot the URL at the bottom and you can go and poke around
@tjelios
4 жыл бұрын
@@mylarmelodies Ah ha! That makes sense now. Guess I have to review that Patch & Tweak chapter! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
Morning dawg. What do you think about using a tool like Grids for basslines?
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually tried it - see earlier vids - and while its good, the patterns are designed for more drummy type things - you need to offset the phase really. I should speak to Emilie about getting different patterns in there
@beathaven303
4 жыл бұрын
@@mylarmelodies Interesting, thanks for the reply. Do you know of any modules that allow you to enter patterns or triggers (effectively 0's and 1's over x number of time) that could be stored in a similar way to Grids? Think that would sell quite nicely!
@beathaven303
4 жыл бұрын
Guess I could use an Octatrack/Analog 4 or something similar.
clever!
Wouldn't you want the Turing machine to be clocked at a much slower rate? The Euclid module from 2hp most likely won't update the pattern until its EOC.
this is precisely the kindof sequencing mentality that got me into modular. i got so tired of having to write very intentional basslines and melodies that almost always end up being boring or repetitive and modular seemed like the best place to break out of that "loop" flow. the only issue for me is acquiring the gear when you're just doing music for fun as a hobby. it's hard to justify the money spent. Mylar, you should take this one step further and run 2 different euclidean rhythm patterns into an and gate or other types of logic gates to get even more variations without doing more work. this is a plan i've had for a while now but i haven't had the chance to test it out since i've only started building my rack. and it takes me months to afford 1 module.
@256k_
4 жыл бұрын
i'm thinking also a way to bypass the need to have something like a metropolis, would be to just run an arpeggiated sequence (from something like a keystep or similar) and then the varying gate pattern generated will pick up different notes from the arp each time, especially if the arp steps aren't whole bar numbers like 4 8 16...etc. you can pretty much make a bassline that never loops with this.
What filter is your bass going through here?
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Tiptop Z2040 which is ♠️
Brilliant. Now, stupid n00b question incoming. What’s the smallest skif I can get if I wanted to just get a Euclidean thing and a Turing thing to get this same shit in my Neutron?
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
A 4ms pod case, or an Intellijel Pallette case! But probably just a tiptop Happy Ending Kit
@madmac66
4 жыл бұрын
mylarmelodies excellent thanks
You should check out Marbles. It does a lot of this by itself. Paired with something like an Event Boss it can do everything you're showing here.
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
Yep I have both (!) 😂
AACCCEE!!