Building an Advanced Magnus Effect Plane
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This is an RC Magnus Effect Plane! Magnus effect aircraft use a wierd aerodynamic effect to create lift. I wanted to build a plane with a cylindrical rotor driven by an electric motor. Underneath there would be a boom with a second motor for forward propulsion along with a rudder for turning. It would be similar to a paramotor. It's not a concept I came up with but there is hardly any info out there on the proportions of a plane like this, how fast the rotors should spin, and where its centre of gravity should be, so I thought I'd learn how to do it and share it with you.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:46 Ad
02:05 V1 Build
03:46 First Test Flights
05:29 Improvements
05:48 Second Test Flights
07:27 Iterative Development
09:30 Final Attempt
12:26 Conclusion
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There's something delightfully unnatural about watching that thing actually fly
@Project-Air
2 жыл бұрын
I’m still surprised the Magnus Effect is that powerful to easily lift 600g of plane! ☺️
@creativitybooth8115
2 жыл бұрын
I am working on a project to drop a plane from space with a weather balloon can you give a plane design with big wings to fit many solar panels as possible
@n.o6889
2 жыл бұрын
@@creativitybooth8115 a glider? Big wing, so many place to fit solar panels
@thirtythreeeyes8624
2 жыл бұрын
@@creativitybooth8115 Man that's a hell of mission to tackle if you don't know about aerodynamics. Also likely super illegal depending on location and prior approval/licensing.
@creativitybooth8115
2 жыл бұрын
@@thirtythreeeyes8624 as I am in india it is legal and there is no airport in the city I live so there must be no problem
Wicked cool. You're basically Alec steel meets Peter Sripol. Solid job on the video, and build.
@jakedevries1455
2 жыл бұрын
And Tom Stanton that's where I heard of project air when they did the miniature bouncing bomb with an RC Lancaster bomber and as soon as I see that video i was like I need to subscribe to project air and his projects have just gotten cooler! And all the channels you said are excellent as well... and yours is pretty cool too 👍 😉
@cosmorito961
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like J is the fan of aerodynamics
@whatelseison8970
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, you should team up with one (or all) of these guys on an ionic wind powered plane! Or maybe realize Tesla's dream of a plane powered wirelessly by a massive DRSSTC. If anyone can do it it's you. If you do the latter make sure get Integza in on that somehow. I feel like he might not forgive you otherwise. 🤣
@tobywebb2112
2 жыл бұрын
Except Peter stripol makes absolute trash and usually breaks it before it can actually function. Hes fine with a mediocre display. But I prefer when people put effort and care into making something work properly. But that's just me aparently..
@Vebtum
2 жыл бұрын
Your brihish and I know that for a fact
Fantastic! I find it fascinating that you've adopted a bit of a "Slave One"-style orientation rather than something with a more horizontal juxtaposition, and I absolutely love it. Great work, sir.
@Project-Air
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Linuxpunk81
2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say it reminded me of a B-Wing, but yeah slave 1 is more accurate.
@adamwolfy4826
2 жыл бұрын
I love the star wars vibe with this thing 👌
@codetech5598
2 жыл бұрын
You are not allowed to use the word "slave" anymore.
@acidxero
2 жыл бұрын
@@codetech5598 You're the only one I see complaining. It's funny how the people most insulted by the notion of censorship so often end up using bad examples of it to passive-aggressively complain.
You should call it: "the flying paint roller"
@IceJoolsstuff
2 жыл бұрын
Senpai noticed me
@sayedmuhammadidrees1453
2 жыл бұрын
More like Wireless Paint Roller.
@shannonm3841
2 жыл бұрын
i was thinking flying toilet paper dispenser or the FTPD
@shikhar3281
2 жыл бұрын
@@shannonm3841 fricking trash police Department?
@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316
2 жыл бұрын
@@shikhar3281 that applies to every police department in our current world system, no need to put an acronym for it.. its already established and just is what it is
Make a fuselage design that is smooth and covers everything and it’s something straight out of despicable me
@loddude5706
2 жыл бұрын
The 'Gru-mman Grassdiver'?. . . (sorry : )
@potatofartsquad
Жыл бұрын
@@loddude5706 Nah, its the Slave-One
10:36 when it starts working and you can hear the happiness in his voice is priceless, Truly little nuggets of greatness on KZread
The aircraft is asserting dominance
@yayayayya4731
2 жыл бұрын
T
@tengkubingit4422
2 жыл бұрын
T
@biko9824
2 жыл бұрын
T
@joeydr1497
2 жыл бұрын
T
@Astraulix
2 жыл бұрын
T
Wow . I haven't watched it fully but I know it's gonna be nice
Just love seeing the failures... and him not quitting. No one that hides failure can really science all that well. You can learn to walk without falling if you're held up and protected... but it takes longer and you learn less. I love seeing someone earn their success. Love the "back to the drawing board" mentality. Much respect.
You don’t have a horizontal stabilizer. You made essentially a flying wing with no ailerons or elevator. Very cool that’s you’re trying to make something cool and seems like you had a lot of fun doing it.
@ledocteur7701
2 жыл бұрын
horizontal stabilisation is provided by the center of mass being far below the center of lift, an airplane style horizontal stabilizer might help tho.
@bryanwachter
2 жыл бұрын
@@ledocteur7701 that’s not really stabilization, that would be balance. Stabilization is active, using air flow to keep something stable. I think your plane could fly if it had stabilizers on it.
@johanhoff958
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the fact is, you made the job really hard for yourself by not just replacing the airfoils of a fixed wing aircraft, but also chucking the stabilizing features including dihedral and empennage. You also induced a counterproductive moment with your propeller position. Nevertheless, you made it fly...bravo!
I love your content. That was a great idea. These magnus effect 'aircraft' are never easy. Excellent work!!!!
Que legal novas intenções surgindo. Parabéns ao Canal 👏👏👏👍
Wow you actually managed to make an rc plane like this :D
Great work as always, as someone who is interested in aerospace engineering I found this really fascinating
Great to see that thing finally flying - looks great. You're excitement says it all!
Its supper cool that you made the correct analysis of the flaws and good corrections that worked! proper application of the scientific method!
Nice job James! Keep pushing the edge. I love your creativity, ingenuity and persistence, that's an excellent formula for success. Love your channel and I recommend to all of my younger engineering friends and colleagues as a good example of how to get things done. Once again, well done!
@Project-Air
2 жыл бұрын
That’s great! Glad you like my videos, cheers
That one was incredible, i love it so much
I felt your elation and was very happy for you. Nice work!
Well done, what a great feeling when a project finally works.
Hey Man, felt a real pleasure seeing u succeed, keep this going on.
Of all the aerodynamic principles out there, the Magnus effect spins me out the most. 😉
One of the most unusual craft I've seen in a very long time. Good job.
Awesome, glad to see it fly at the end !
Man that's awesome! I would recommend making the tubes slightly dihedral to make it more horizontally stable and a fixed vertical stabilizer so it'll move in a much more straight direction. Cheerios!
Great engineering mindset! Just keep going ;) This is an absolutely amazing project. I find that effect still totally fascinating!
Your tenacity is inspiring! :)
Great job on the build, and the video!👍👌 Looking forward to the next installment!!
Seems like a bit of the 'pendulum fallacy' may still be in play. Perhaps a few degrees of 'dihedral' in the axles would help stability in the roll axis.
ah yes flying T post
@stbhcorporation7611
2 жыл бұрын
lol
I admire your persistence. What a result!
Wow well done! Glad your persistence was rewarded... that's got to feel good.
The funny flying T got the thumbs up from me. But it is maybe worth referencing previous Magnus Effect flying craft.
AWESOME
thank you very much for doing this. feels great to see it fly on that last attempt
Thank you so much for showing your whole process. This is a great show of design mind set that failure is not a bad things. I see to many young people give up when they fail thinking they have lost. Failing and failing fast is key to learning new skills you will in time have a massive win. So to those in school or those learning a new skill, if your not failing your not learning anything new. Keep up your great work.
Well Done 😎👍👍
0:40 you're telling me you're Kevin de Bruyne's long lost RC loving brother?
Brilliant job, man. That was a wild ride.
Great job showing off your engineering design process!
Amazing
it might be more stable if u use 2 pairs of "wings" (1 in the front, 1 in the back)
@RobotSquadTech
2 жыл бұрын
ya actually that would help
Never heard of the magnus effect but since you killed it, well done and thank you!
I'm very impressed. The world needs more people like you. Great work!
Amazing i am from indonesia
@loddude5706
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
looks fairly strange that
Brilliant looking craft. Amazing to see it fly.
That's really good work, James! Really well done!!!
Does the speed of the rotors change the lift characteristics? If so, you could have a small "tail rotor" that you vary the speed of as an elevator.
@tomasmackeon8261
2 жыл бұрын
yes indeed it does, faster cylinder rotation makes more lift
Hey man that is pretty freaking cool, I give you a 10/10 for finding a common scientific physics phenomenon that is relatable to almost everyone in all corners of the globe, and exploiting said phenomenon for aviation purposes never before seen!
@chiragsingla.
2 жыл бұрын
Btw, it was used in aviation, and it was not successful, because of the drag, he also had to face it in the video and rebuild his aircraft
I’m just happy for, watching your excitement over your successful flight! Haha. Good stuff.
I felt your happiness! You are truly living, bro. Thank you for inspiring us!!!!
I wonder if there is a more efficent fuselage /body design. I've seen petersripol swap the wings for the magnus rotors on a normal plane design, and i've also seen a video of a drone with four magnus effect rotors on a drone instead of propelers. I wonder if there's a middle ground, wich has both controlability and stability.
@rcbif101
2 жыл бұрын
My most recent design is stable and has landing gear for takeoff and landing.
I like this! Nice catch on the thrust point being too low. Have you tried having the prop be a 'pusher' orientation? I'm curious if that would give smoother air over the rollers to help their effectiveness, or if the thrust from the prop actually makes them work better due to the air it throws over them.
Awesome effort. It was fun to watch fly.
Amazing work flying this thing..cool video
Noob here so pardon me if my question is dumb. Any thoughts on spinning the two drums separately and varying their relative speeds to help manage yaw/pitch? Like I mentioned my understanding of all this is limited so I'm not sure which axis this would impact more.
@williamchamberlain2263
2 жыл бұрын
Roll/bank/turn, or yaw - I think. Pitch would be spinning both faster/slower to vary the reaction against the fuselage.
The "stem" seems to be one of the main breaking points. Could the design be adapted to fit carbon fibre rods? As far as I understand it should get lighter and more durable
@nutmeg8363
2 жыл бұрын
@@cap5856 it doesn't look like that in the video. There is the announcment picture where it has the right texture but in the end he said to PRINT it with more infill
@nutmeg8363
2 жыл бұрын
@@cap5856 yeah ok, the last rod is carbon fibre, but the one before that definitely wasn't
@haydo8373
2 жыл бұрын
@@cap5856 Thank you captain obvious for your redundant commentary
@Project-Air
2 жыл бұрын
@@nutmeg8363 To confirm, all of the fuselage and rotor axle tubes used in the build were carbon fibre. Some were thicker than others.
@haydo8373
2 жыл бұрын
@@cap5856 Your comment was redundant because Nutmeg had already acknowledged carbon fibre had been used in the frame. When he originally suggested the use of carbon fibre he was unaware that it had been tested. Assuming he knows what the meaning of 'moot' is, he would also be able to deduce that his suggestion had already been tested and wasn't useful. Your comment was superfluous (synonymous with redundant) if we assume Nutmeg is capable of the most rudimentary level of critical thought/reasoning.
Excelente trabajo, felicidades, nunca había visto algo igual.
Good job mate! You have to do more with this concept!
wow
Я тоже как ребенок радовался за автора, когда ему удалось сделать это ! 👍
Excellent project!
How about a magnus effect monocopter? Don’t think I’ve seen that done, and your project history is pointing you right in that direction
@NicholasRehm
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, rocket powered too :)
I doubt you will see this comment, but why not use four rotors for stability? If that works better you could even use two motors (L and R) for roll control
good day to random person scrolling down coments :)
@Because-Linux
7 ай бұрын
Hello from 2 years in the future.
@NotOrg7
5 ай бұрын
Ily
@samuzamu
4 ай бұрын
You too!
Very good. You had success that was elusive for the others that had tried the concept.
Wow, amazing you found a good equilibrium on the craft
22 seconds ago
With this smal Diameter you need high Rpm. Usw KFC bucket this works great
I started watching with some skepticism but found myself fascinated. Very well done and I subscribed.
Absolutely amazing 👏 we'll done!!! I'm looking forward to seeing more !!
seventh
Fortnite gliders be like:
So glad you persevered and had success.
Good for you kiddo!! Youre on to something. Thats how greatness is born bro!!
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good at removing fluff and flying! this looks insane and bloody cool. good job sir
For a side project this was bloody amazing!
Incredible! Well done!
Sooooo Good! was (almost) as happy as you when it worked :) Another great video mate
This video deserves more views. Sweet accomplishment dude!
Congrats! That's really quite a contraption. Nice work getting it to fly.
@Project-Air
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Keep developing this concept. It has a lot of potential and is a nice aesthetic change from the standard airplanes.
Fabulous!!! Great effort!!!
The shere, authentic joy at the end and 'keep watching it!!' 😂 just made my day
This was amazing 😍. Something different and not like typical drones, rc planes.
I am so glad you didn't give up because that was crazy- wild. That was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. And now that you've proven that it can be done. Somebody has to take it to the next level. Great job kid-o, and Thanks for hanging in there.
Great stuff :D This concept is a blast !
Great concept congratulations on a great job!
This is genius ! Congratulation for that flight ! :)
This is brilliant, congratulations!
Incredible work James!👌
Nice work. Great idea!
Good effort - really interesting aircraft!
That's great! Brilliant work!
*_Cool build!_*
You're a mad genius. Never stop.
Nice, nice - well done! Thats engineering at its core. Keep it up!