Hey, great work! Love the funny 😄 Putting a micro switch with a roller at the top would have been way easier, but welding it on would only have melted it. So now I need those beautiful pants. Didn't know that they could come with one leg shorter than the other, just the way I like em. On fire.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, they keep you warm in the winter! Lol, thanks for the comment!

@fauxque5057

2 жыл бұрын

Two cable stops and a disc big enough not to go through the trigger loop that's already there would have been easier

@dirtysanchez2k

2 жыл бұрын

When your not sure about using a proximity switch in a winch you make a bar with a lever in a pinch . Love the videos!

@4N5W3R5

2 жыл бұрын

was just going to say, throw a hole in the rails run a wire to the original switch and put a micro at the top... like 5mins and done.

@sw6188

2 жыл бұрын

That was my thought as well. Just relocate the limit switch on the motor to the top of the frame where it can be actuated by the deck moving up. A single cable with two wires is all that's needed.

Man, subbed for the the comedic elements.

Enjoy your design-build problem solving abilities. Clever upon clever. I’m good at that too. The greatest compliment I was ever paid was an old guy once telling me I would have made a good farmer. You would have made a good farmer.

Did you consider adding more cross bracing that can act as a ladder in case of power outage while in the bunker?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but if the tray is half way up you would have to get around it somehow. I'm going to add a ladder attached to the wall so you can access it from any point along the lift. Thanks Larry!

I started my working life as a passenger lift engineer and my first thoughts were to add limit switches to the top and bottom. A fun project to follow and once you have nailed a mechanical limit issue it will do the job.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I want to add a "call" feature at the top and bottom later. That will add a relay box and tons of switches.

@brent4adv

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic Don't get carried away. Just have two sets of up/down buttons. Wire them in parallel.

That was a really solid RCR impression at 18:53, Herb!

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex, I love his car show bits!

You are genuinely one of the funniest people on KZread. Keep up the great content!

Can't help but think that simply taking the switch out of the winch housing, extending the wires for it up to the top, and making an adjustable mount and trigger would have solved the problem a lot easier than what you did, however the backyard engineering you did is greatly appreciated by myself and it seems others as well

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

It would have been easier, to be honest, I thought the mechanical solution was going to take 20 minutes. Boy I was wrong. Thanks Southron Jr!

I love this series, it's some quality content.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave, I'm working on the next one right now

Really enjoying watching this project! Looking forward to the next installment.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I'm working on it, thanks Matthew

@arcgisguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic absolutely enjoying every update. I'd bitch about how short they are, but you're busting your ass doing things right, so while frustrating for us, so enjoyable watching it done right!

Your Backyard Bunker restoration is like my dream vacation haha When i watched your first video showing the bunker tour a while back i offered you any help you needed and that still stands as we live in the same metropolitan! Your OCD to craftsmanship is all to familiar to me and i relate on so many levels haha Keep up the great content and let me know if you ever need a hand or want to give a personal tour as i'm dying to see this!

Interesting video. Thanks for posting like your sense of humor. Can’t wait for the install.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I'm working on it! Thanks Rusty!

The commentary is priceless!

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man! Just get's blurted out

Holy crap, as a person that deals with engineers fixing things in my shop, have you thought about using wires to remote the sensing switch? Lets make it harder than it needs to be. Good job my friend.

Just found your channel! Looking forward to watching you fix the bunker up.

This channel is amazing. It's like how to do everything right the wrong way.

"No one likes it when a man is behind you in an elevator cranking it" Okay, subbed, lmfao.

I’d watch these just for the recaps, but oh there is so much more. 😂

Gotta love the paint locker and its contents 😂😂😂

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, I take a deep breath in there when I'm stressed

These videos make my day. When you forgot the word “dry” because of the fumes I cracked up.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jon! I leave the camera rolling for the whole project and it results in capturing subtle things like the fume poisoning!

Does your wife appreciate your humorous commentary? My wife rolls her eyes at mine. I guess she just doesn't understand my comedic gold. 🥺

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

My wife doesn't know what's cool, like my humor, or loud motorcycles, or fire.

,"excellent"great build ,absolutely love the recaps looking forward to the next episode

I don’t know if anyone else gets the Regular Car Reviews references, but I do.

Awesome modification idea for the cable from Henrico County Virginia

Being able to fabricate and mig weld is a lost art!.

If you ever do decide to move the limit switch I strongly recommend that you change to a normally open held closed roller switch. A NOHC switch will usally fail to the open (off) position.

A few laughs and a shout out to AvE. I'm subscribing.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Got to love a bolter video, thanks for subbing Jon, see you in the next one!

Dude, i love your voice over

@petereriksson4405

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I'm almost certain it's This Old Tony doing the voice over

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man!

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Peter, it's me, Tony, errr Herb

A suggestion. We enjoy the project, but think what about the Fall Out shelter? Would it be more interesting to show the work on the shelter each episode, solutions and fabrication?

I wanted out the freezer so I decided to subscribe. Keep up the good vids! Thumbs up 👍🏻 from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

What's up Ed! You're out of the freezer buddy

Mechanical engineering at its finest. Also I am pretty sure you are sponsored by Harbor Freight. I'm a subscriber !

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, if I keep shilling their stuff maybe they'll send me a check!

Your wit and commentary are what make these videos. This channel could be about picking up that gargoyle's #2's and I'd still have bell notifications on.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rappeezy, I appreciate it, thanks for the next video idea!

That's handy of the Ryobi to have the spanner wrench integrated into the handle. Nifty and swell.

Why didn't you put the limit switch on a wired microswitch? Would have been a whole lot easier just running a couple of wires and a switch. If you think back to how to original stop on the winch was you will see why they had a spring on the stop. It takes out all the force on the stop. The way you have it will soon destroy the stop switch on the winch

It's amazing how different minds solve problems differently. For the stops, I'd have used a limit switch, ring cable down to the winch, and soldered directly to the switch contacts. But then, I can't weld soooo 😉

Looks like your having some ups and downs working on that thing...... Thank you...... Goodnight I'll let myself out

Can I just say... I appreciate your sense of humor lol. Keep up the good videos!

@ShaunBMcKinnon

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, had a couple chuckles!

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh! The wife rolls her eyes but I know she loves it!

Not sure if you’ve thought this far ahead, but if you want I can help provide some actual elevator buttons if you decide to get away from the wench controls.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I might take you up on that!, It's going to stay wench for now, But later I want to put call buttons on the top and bottom of the shaft as well as controls on the carriage. Thanks Doug!

@dougbeck1614

2 жыл бұрын

Well let me know, I’m actually an elevator mechanic in the Phx area. Might have some access to some other goodies for your project.

Love your videos 🇬🇧

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wayne!

Excellent.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

I would have just extended the cables and moved the limit switch to the top, but this works, so good job!

I know everyone uses free KZread music... but today is the first time I have ever heard anyone use Abom79 music he uses at the end of his Saturday Night Specials. Nicely done.

loved it

Its a creative way to solve your problem, though you might have saved yourself some metal by removing the switch from the winch and extending the wires to reach the top, rewire the switch up at the top of travel and mount where you need to to be depressed. Also, idea to fix your problem with the arm bending, you could instead of hard mounting the bolt that the carriage runs into, put a heavy spring between do the bolt itself can move when to much force is placed one it. Though you would have to find a spring heavy enough to allow it to trigger the switch but compress when "to much" force is put on it. Or now that I think about it a thick rubber bumper would work as well.

You sir are a fabricator after my own heart 😄

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man!

I just subscribed because I don't do well in cold temperatures.

Spraying a mist of water on your floor also keeps paint from sticking. Old car painting trick. Except here in Arizona with no humidity since the water will evaporate quickly. I can’t wait for you to drop it into the shelter.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot about the mist trick, it helps keep floating dirt out of the paint as it gets stuck to the floor. Thanks Missy!

Good enough for governent work.

Agreed with others, waaay easier to use an electric limit switch.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Or is it?

so i recently started binging all of your bomb shelter videos and i just noticed the regular car reviews joke at 18:53

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Regular car reviews can be pretty funny! Thanks for watching Sillyzombie!

@Sillyzombie666

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic i constantly make fun of cars i see in the rcr voice lol ... I BLACKED OUT MY TAIL LIGHTS SO THEY DONT WOOOORRRK

Loviiiing it

Take the switch out of the hoist and just run extended wires on the outside of the C-channel. Then place the switch at the top of the elevator's travel and viola, you've got yourself a problem that's solved.

New subscriber awesome videos my friend. Just a thought on your victims I’m sure they would appreciate a bit of H&S so it’s had to tell but it looks like the sled could be turned round to eliminate the step down at the top of the shaft 🤔 Just a thought.

Hope that thing will have a battery back up. Just incase you really need to use the shelter in bad weather and the power goes out.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

That's the plan, along with a fixed ladder on the side, thanks John!

@johnjesus971

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic Awesome! enjoying the videos!

Hi, interesting video. Lots of Rube Goldberg here. Definitely use a micro switch to limit the movement. It would be a simple wiring mod to the winch. Also, do you have a plan to lower the elevator during an emergency? Like you're in the shelter and there is a failure of the elevator? Lost of power perhaps?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Backup ladder bolted to the wall, is probably my backup. You could scoot down or up the ladder fairly quickly.

@RobertStoneman

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic We'd need a ladder limit switch encase you go too far up the ladder!

I will jump on you too about the grinder, you need to adj the work table so that it is closer to the wheel. last thing you want to do is record what you say as you have your hand pulled into the wheel and the work rest holds it there. seen that but not done that. You are doing a great job and I look forward to your postings. Have a good time every time.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I will probably replace that grinder soon, it's missing a ton of stuff, all the safety stuff. It was given to me, so it doesn't owe me anything!

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy the videos man!

Couple suggestions, make it to someone can't weld the door shut on you. Or plug your vents either. Someone could easily make you open it up or seal you inside.

Why not rewire the switch to the top? Would have only took a roller lever switch and a piece of wire. Saved you a lot of frustration…

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

That is correct! I thought the mechanical solution would be more fun, and the original idea was done in about 20 minutes. I didn't expect the fiddling to take so long!

@dutchsmuggler8176

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic looking forward to your next struggle;) No seriously, really like to see how you restore the shelter! Hope you do as much videos on the electric, water and ventilation parts.

put a plastic "stop" ball on the cable to depress the switch, once the lift is all the way up.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Not a bad Idea but it uses twice as much cable to make the elevator travel in double cable mode, so the ball would have to go through at least one pulley. Thanks Chris!

@christophermaschek

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, did not realize that it would go through one of the pullies.

They make a cheap and readily available product for this. It's called a limit switch. Would've been so much easier and work better to boot.

Look Very good job in bunker make impressive better

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sam

another good thing about acetone ... steal all your lady's fancy nail polish bottles (empty of course) ... refill them with acetone and give em back to her in a gift wrapped box once a month ... then she thinks you bought her expensive nail polish remover when you just refill from your acetone supply ... she pays 6 bucks a bottle ... and gets a few ounces ... you pay 6 bucks and get a gallon ... for the same stuff

Just move the switch to the top. No wheel to reinvent

Ehm holy overenginering 😅 why not just remove the switch from the motor and extend the wires to a new switch at the top 😅 anyway nice videos 👌🏻

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the mechanical solution would be more fun, and the original idea was done in about 20 minutes. I didn't expect the fiddling to take so long! The roller switch is definitely the way to go! As I modify the system, that may get updated

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Duotronic, if the switch breaks I'll add another lever that rattles a bird's cage who in turn flips a light switch the wench is plugged into.

@peterjf7723

2 жыл бұрын

@@duotronic6451 Was that the Mouse Trap Game? It was a kind of "Rube Goldberg" device, a contraption of overly elaborate mechanisms with many moving parts to perform a simple function.

Make the end of the top bolt spring loaded an you can adjust with the holes finally

Came up a inch short fellas 🥲

Instead of that rod, i wouldve just wired another switch at the top of the elevator in parralel with that switch on the winch, id also want a switch at the bottom which stops it at the bottom of its travel, but i assume that would be harder to implement. I suppose the mechanical solution might be more reliable, and obvious when its broken compared to an electronic solution. More complex tho (imo)

@sw6188

2 жыл бұрын

Where that may come unstuck is the existing limit switch may be a NC (normally closed) type that opens once actuated, cutting power to the up direction. Adding another switch in parallel wouldn't achieve anything. It would have to be another NC switch and it would need to be in series with the existing one.

@leonsutliffe9572

2 жыл бұрын

@@sw6188 ahh yea, i got my series and parralell mixed up yeah youd need it in series, but id argue thats better for safety, as if a wire breaks or a connection comes loose the elevator wont run (in the up direction) but you could also copy the wiring for that switch and put it on the down direction as well, so that you cant lose tension on the rope.

@sw6188

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonsutliffe9572 Absolutely. Given what he wants to do with call buttons and operator controls on the platform, a dedicated microcontroller is looking favorable. It can monitor the various limit switches, operator buttons and motor movement to provide a practical user experience.

Love the solution for the limit switch. Are you going to double the controls so you can call the elevator when someone else is in the bunker or outside?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I plan to triple the controls for the carriage, bottom, and top. I have to wire them in a way that they can't be cross controlled.

Hahahaha, I love your humour! And your videos, both entertaining and interesting/informative...I can't get my head around how that stopper switch works though, both electronically and mechanically unless there's a ball or whatever on the end of the cable, as I believe some do. For the electronic side of the switch, how does it work in reverse if the circuit has been stopped one way-same circuit presumably, as the motor has two outputs (unless three phase, or including an earth)... looking on Ali rcpress, I'm wondering if it's a circuit board piece jargon thing like a capacitor...I'm making a scissor lift for the local museum, thinking drill operated and/or "car key" remote

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

It cuts power to the "Up" circuit. I open her up in the next video (soon to be released). I don't know 100% how it works. A Car Key remote would be better because it wouldn't have a cord to get tangled.

@clevelandexplorer2221

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic aye, thanks :) I'd want another way to control it as well as a remote, it the battery died or whatever. On the subject of cable getting in the way, what if you added idk, a t track or whatever with clips to your remote cable every so often, then mount the remote on the lift fixed or on a rack :) what I'm imagining in a basic circuit for any motor is a one way thing, like a skilextric set going in circles-but if the circuit is interrupted (up circuit for example), but somehow it works opposite ways...on the same circuit...or how could there be another circuit, what if both are triggered at once :s idk haha same as you :p Any changes to your "padded cell" do going, eh? You locked the wife in there or the tax man? :P I think you said you're going to revamp it or something :s

I do hope the electrical hoist will work after a nuke fell :P thats why it had stairs, cant really fail

I think you got caught over thinking the engineering for that limit switch contraption. Would have been super easy to just run wiring up to a new (or reuse the old) limit switch at the top of the lift. Fewer moving parts means fewer points of failure. Just sayin.

In my friends shop, he had his own elevator. Was about 3 foot by 3 foot and was just some angle iron rails with some bearing as guides and a 120v electric winch. A simple on and off switch. It goes to the basement of his shop. It had no safety stuff and was just super simple to operate. Could carry a pretty big load.

@kameljoe21

2 жыл бұрын

Also the controls were just a cable that lowered and raised while on the unit. There was also a up down off switch at the top and bottom that also controlled the unit as well. You could lower the unit down and when the cable was slack it landed and on the way up you could see the markings drawn on the wall for when to stop and when you were at the top bringing it up you stopped when level with the floor. I think there was about 1 foot extra you could go up. The bottom was right on the concrete and was maybe 2 inches off the ground. It was very simple yet needed like 8 or 10 feet above it for the winch and frame. Either way it works out very well. I have also see people use man lifts and they will cut out the floor and dig down to set the man lift in and then build a section frame around the lift to gain access to the scissor lift area. These worked well. Someone I know has one like this in their barn and uses it to moves stuff up and down from their loft area. They have one of those bigger ones that can fit like a standard sheet of plywood on it. You almost can not tell its there as its right next to a wall with a pedestal with the controls on it.

You should patent your fire suppression system and sell it to the forest service.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, drop a giant steel plate on the fire from a helo! First stomp on it in futility, that weakens the fire

Just a thought, but would a couple of rubber bump stops at the top help? the type use on car suspensions systems.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Probably would help, I think real elevators have springs and rubber bumpers. Thanks Pete!

I'm sure others have suggested it but couldn't you have just ran a new switch or put the existing switch at the top of the frame where you wanted it? But hey, this sure was fun!! great video, I was just tellimg my wife and daughter last night that anyone who makes anything on YT knows AVE and his infamous saying "A grinder and paint makes the welder I ain't" so instant subscribe when you quoted that lol.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

AVE is an internet father figure! Limit switches don't grow on trees.

@tomasjosefvela1

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic true, true....it would be cool if they did though.

That switch is depressing 😂🤣😂

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

When I went to edit the video, I thought that too after hearing depress for the 5th time!

You need to include a spring to allow for extra travel of the long rod.. never directly interface with a safety device

To get the spray cans prepped/shaken for painting, there is a much easier way. Grab a 8-12" sawzall blade and install it on the sawzall. Place a piece of thin wood like lathe on the side of the blade and grab (2) 3" hose clamps and tighten the spray can to the shim/blade combo. Power up the sawzall and let it do the shaking of the can. Your shoulders and elbows will thank you.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a funny solution, I will have to try! Thanks Stephen!

@tl1024

2 жыл бұрын

I have done this with separated touch-up paint bottles that you could shake manually for an hour & get no results. Really works.

@stephenstrohacker7863

2 жыл бұрын

@@tl1024 doesn't seem logical but when your arm strength is going, work smarter not harder.

Just found and subscribed to your channel. It looks interesting. Have you seen the Colin Furze channel, he has a series about building a bunker under his garden?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I have!, If I ever move, I will build a bunker in a similar fashion. Thanks Peter!

Dude...I love this elevator series. I need to hire you to make one for my attic here in Arkansas.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, it's a fun project! I've seen people build them for their attic, it makes moving the Christmas tree up and down a ton easier.

@peterjf7723

2 жыл бұрын

A neighbor once made a DIY elevator for his business. He used an electric winch and pulley system to lift a large wardrobe (without a door) in a timber frame. He used it a few times and then the floor of the wardrobe gave way and he broke his ankle.

I would just se electric momentary pressure switch and extend the wires from the box 🙄😁 cost $10 w/ time included

Put a limit switch at the top...

Do you plan on adding back a manual wind so you don't get stuck down there if the power goes out?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Probably a ladder next to the elevator bolted to the wall, thanks Optical Trace

4 minutes into the video scratching my head at why you’re using a couple hundred dollars in steel to activate a switch instead of just relocating the switch.

Nice, well done! Did you ever explain that when the terrorists strike, the nuc goes off, and Putin invades, and you are left without electricity how you get in or out of the shelter?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!, I have power supplies that switch from grid to battery automatically, I'll feature them later. Also a ladder bolted to the wall next to the elevator.

Everyone's saying installing in a micro switch would have been a lot easier. And they are right they also make ones that detect metal

Says 10/32nd. Me laughs in imperial humor.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, you got me! Hand me a 6/8th wrench and let's move on with this project!

@needXC90

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic , I should re-engrave all my wrenches as such.

youtube really did hit you with the recommendations

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

They have chosen to bless me at the moment!

Wonder what he will do if the power goes out when he is down in the hole

Why not just run a thin steel cable to the lever, from the platform - When the cable loses slack, it actuates the lever (from a pulley, to pull the lever down).

Great idea, but what happens when the grid power goes out, emergency ladder, generator?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Backup power supply, I have a couple laying around from an old project. Also ladder attached to wall. Thanks Paul!

Can you give me a link on getting a clamp like you have on your drill press?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I just put it in the description for you!

So what are you putting in your bunker I hope you're starting a food storage

The instrumentation guy in me would have just moved or added a second switch and roller to the top .

Love the channel, but why didnt u just extend the limit switch press button. It is just a switch. Bit of wire and done.

✌️

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

What up Salty

At 8:07, I wanted to swear in Scottish: "FORK!"

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

That was a bummer! I hate coming up an inch short!

@Bjornieman

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic haha, yeah, but before you came up with that 90 deg lever to hit that safety switch, my idea was making a fork-shaped bit to interface with it instead.

I was watching your channel going "That look an awful lot like Phoenix area" Then I saw the trash cans, YUP! Where in the valley are you at??

@MikeHarris1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic lol, I am. I'm just a bit north, was on i17 union, but now 303/jomax, so a ways out. Awesome bunker! I always wanted a house with one. Wife and I are looking to buy land and build our dream home, and both of us want to put in a big bunker and turn it into an under ground movie theater room.

@tl1024

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic another desert dweller. With the Red Green level humor, and the allowance of a metric bolt in the build, I would have sworn you were Canadian.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

Nope not Canadian, I use the bolts I got usually salvaged from something else. I like Red Green.

You are down in the bunker and there is a power loss. Backup plan?

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

A ladder bolted to the wall near the elevator, thanks for commenting Tom!

@tomlangley6236

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbOMatic Sounds good.

To stop this problem. You need two limit switches. The first one has to reduce the voltage with a contactor the second switch stops it. Talk to a elevator company. There is a reason why there is so many controls to run a elevator.

@HerbOMatic

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that, thanks Assassinlexx

@madmax2069

2 жыл бұрын

I take it the first switch that lowers the voltage is to reduce the momentum before hitting the second switch

@assassinlexx1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@madmax2069 Your are right. That's why you ride a elevator it so smooth when it comes to the stop.