awesome!

great info. please show us how next time, wasnt sure how to hook it to the batteries. Thanks

Hey, great idea. I have some welding rods in my car by accident, but I would had never thought of doing that if you did not mention it. I will have to get some old batteries and try it out to see how well it works.

Hey schnazzy tip there! Thanks for sharing.

engineer 775 i manage a welding shop and this is beyond cool this old farmer that works with me told me he did this with tractor batteries i was prett skeptical until now thanks this is cool

6011 welding rod A coat hanger would work too.

it's total prepping brother ,...thanx for the details ...always heard about it ...even seen it on "the colony"...but i never got the 24 volt detail...thanx this is good info :]

this is survival wrenchin great video topic hope you do more of these!

If you use a piece of fence wire between the two batteries, then you can control the Amps by varying the length of the steel fence wire

The Jeep Club of Arizona saved my butt out in the dunes using this welding method on a tie-rod.

i`ve seen a belt driven welder on ebay that could be mounted to the engine pulley system that may be a good addition to a bug out vehicle

we do allot of welding that way in when we are in Zambia. We all so use the quick connect ends for a forklift so we can disconnect the battery from the truck then connect a modified pair of jumper cables to the connection and then we weld. Its crude but it works when your 50 miles from anything. When we go back Im going to mount a connector on the front and back bumper so I dont have to pull the batteries out anymore. Love the videos God Bless

I'm thinking of making a welder out of an old lawn mower as the power source and run an alternator and use that for welding.

That's a sick jeep

good idea thanks for sharin 775!

dude i love the idea and want to know how but you never showed what to connect to what, all you showed is what i needed, would you please go into more detail when you have time, iv never thought about this and seems like a really good thing to know fully instead of just guess work at what to plug to what

Very good idea... i think i am going to add a battery or two to the toolbox in my truck, and connect it to the alternator through a switch... what amperage should the switch be?

That's pretty good information. Will you do another video on how your batteries are wired together and show us how it works? Thanks, you guys are great. I watch all you videos and like all of them. Love the pedal powered charging station too.

@nadeanmathison5529

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Daisy chain negative and positive are connected and the welding rod on the positive of the one battery with no wires and the ground to weld and not fry you to the other battery that has the negative free of anything.

great info ...thanks...

nice good info thanks

Interesting idea, although my son will remark on the penetration depth of a 3/32 rod. For some vehicles load via a #6 tied to the bolt of the battery clamp. Alternator on these vehs fed through the 00 coming via the starter. Disconnecting the starting battery while running, will cause these vehs to stall immediately. My VW has a starting battery, plus 2 aux batteries to run the fridge and camper. I added high current Anderson PowerPole connectors which make pulling them out, a breeze.

I've heard about people rigging a secondary alternator into their pulley group that does nothing but act as a welder. Avoids having to pull the battery and gives you current for larger projects. I've only heard about it, but have never seen one. Maybe build something like that.

Sweet jeep.

Car battery weld is a neat idea - one worry I have about your scheme is the part about removing the battery WHILE the vehicle is running. The battery absorbs voltage spikes, etc. and removing that while the engine is still running could EASILY fry the engine control computer, charging system, etc. Likewise leaving the battery connected to the vehicle's electrical system in any way could induce voltage spikes from the welding operation into the vehicle's electronics. I'd personally say remove the battery with the engine off, try to conserve power when welding - understanding you are taking chances of not being able to restart. One could do a little welding, pop the battery in the truck and run the engine to recharge, then take it back out to do more welding, etc. until the job is done.

It is not documented, but it is rumored that welding in the field is one reason the military switched to 24v in the M38 jeep and other vehicles of the Korean War era. I've met more than one soldier who has told me I can weld with my jeep.

@MrDrichey - normal wire of 3/32 or 2.3mm would 'fuse or melt'- yes. However, welding rods are coated to provide a flux & slag/debris coating the weld, which also prevents immediate oxidation of the 'melt' between all parts & the electrode...so a cleaner, uniform & contigeous weld can be achieved. The overall / sustained wattage ( volts x amps = circa. 1875w) will only cause fusion of wire of a certain diameter, as the resistance is inverse to ts CSA.

That's old wives tale the plastic battery case will not ground out no matter what it sitting on.

good video if you are welding using dc power you might get better results with 6010 which is better for dc welding the 6011 is for ac hope it helps more but you are right both methods will work great job !!!!!!!!!!

Sure, care batteries can deliver up to 500 amps, for bigger ones -- but the circuit resistance limits a 24 volt welder to between 85 and 100 amps with 3/32 rod. Wire in one more battery (36 volts) and you can go up to 5/32 or even 3/16 rod and 150 amps or so, if you need to weld heavier metal (you'll need more cables, too, of course).

We used 1/2 inch copper plated carbon rods to weld battery terminals together. [2 inch wide terminals]

Thank you very much, I've recently become interested in developing my welding skills for prep purposes, my first real project will be a gasifier, I'm in the research phase. Here are a couple of dumb questions from someone with no experience. what could be used if you don't have a welding rod? If you're not traveling with someone else, you only have one battery, is there a way to boost the battery to make it hot enough?

He does say "in your bug out vehicle", and any vehicle you intend to use as, and prepare to be a BUV, should always have a few extra batteries charging while running. They serve for many things, besides these emergency repairs, also for light, and other emergency gadgets. In many minivans (which make excellent BUVs, if 4WD) have space under the floor, where extra seats would fold into, that fits a couple extra batteries. Connect them to a charger, and you got plenty power, always.

For battery welding after making your 24v (series) connection between the two batteries put the positive (red +) clamp to your work and the negative (black -) clamp to the welding rod, it is just backwards then what you think and it does work better!! It is DC electrode negative welding. A 12v battery by itself just won't work, not enough voltage! Always disconnect the battery cables on the vehicle that is being welded on! And since you have TWO batteries and jumper cables you can put the batteries together (parallel) connection to jump start the vehicle at 12v! Having Dual batteries in a Bug out or back country vehicle is always a great idea and simple to do.

If you leave the car running without the battery, you can damage the alternator and other electronic part.

have to have 2 batters to do this 12 VDC will not work. i tested out this idea a while a go with my M35A2, can also build youre own arc welder with alternators

If you didn't have welding rods would wire work? Even twisting multiple layers of it to be thicker, stronger?

THIS LOOKS SAFE.

Good tip! This is why I never buy cars that have an auto trans. If you have a manual you can at least bump start it and get going.

You spoke about using (2) 12v batteries in series. What I am interested in (based on other comments also) is whether or not the same repairs could be made with a single 12v battery. The only vehicle that I own that has 2 batteries is my superduty ford diesel which is not the ideal bug out machine. Thank you!

@nadeanmathison5529

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If you are doing small welds like electronics lights radios, or welding batteries. One 12 voltage will be ok but you need a second because the power control is not on the lines or batteries you spike once you can blow the battery and fry yourself or damage your object needing the weld So the second battery works for spikes and as a secondary measure of protection

@staym925

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12 volts wont be high enough voltage, and won't get good welds, unless your very thin metal, using two batteries is better, also using two batteries will give you a deeper weld, won't be as hard on batteries and allows you to weld for a longer duration. when welding with batteries, clamp positive to work piece and negative to stick. One important issue is, you should carry two batteries in you BOV, if one goes bad, you have a back up.

Most welders are converting to DC any way ( depends on what you are welding & the model welder you have ) . I WOULD NOT unhook the battery on a modern car while running. It's finr on this old jeep, but not advised on the newer stuff.

its not the body i worry about its the frames getting rusted out ive looked at about 6 older jeeps and thats the main problem with them my wife and i have been thinking about taking a road trip south to find 1 with a solid frame

If your looking for a cj dont worry about the body. They make fiberglass bodys that can be installed in a weekend. All my cj5 body panels are fiberglass front to back. Never ever worry about the body again def worth the 3k

Use 6010 6011 is more for a/c welding 6010 welds the same way with the back and forth or weave motion it should work better but who knows

Check ebay and craigslist. They are out there just have to look everyday. Being here in the mtns of pa I looked for 5 months before I found my rust free truck. Its hard finding a 10 year old truck that doesnt have some bit of rust but I was lucky enough that the laster owner took very well care of it.

I thought pulling the batteries while the vehicle was running was a good way to blow the alternator. Is that not correct?

Be careful about sparks around DC batteries. The fumes inside the battery case can be explosive, I'd do this with long cables away from batteries. I've exploded a battery by accident, and it will get your attention. Battery acid all over the area.

nickels today are the same as they ever were in terms of metal composition

My not work with today's nickels, but older ones it's at least more plausible.

lol im also looking for a older jeep but everything up here is just so rusted out

This is obviously a "desperate measures" type of activity. Shorting out a battery (which is essentially what you are doing) could cause the battery to fail 'spectacularly'. Do the welding in short bursts rather than all at once. Removing the battery from a running vehicle can cause the Voltage to spike very high and damage components. If the car is a manual transmission consider bump starting it instead.

I have a 150 dollar welder ( Chicago electric ) that plugs into the truck....it burns up the 80 amps... price out to new batterys 100? 130 bucks?

Be careful. Pulling the cables off a running car can cause the alternator to surge blowing out the regulator, diodes and with computers can blow them. My family had an auto electric shop for 70 years. You can do this with anything running a generator. Its an old farm trick to se if your tractor was charging.

Do you think three batteries would make the weld a little deeper?

@staym925

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it will, but then your playing with more power then what's needed, it also will burn your stick up faster, so you will have to weld a lot faster and might not get as good penetration.

Yes...more McGyver stuff.

some vehicles wont run without battery

Thanks, but that still didn't answer my question.

man I want that CJ. would you consider selling it......Please? lol

It is pretty cool that you would even take the time to do this so appreciate that a lot! but I have seen much better explanations that were done in under 3 minutes and included a demonstration on how to wire everything up and take the battery out. You talk a lot but don't actually show how it works. In future vids it would be a lot better if you demonstrated whatever you are talking about. Hope you appreciate some constructive criticism.

just bring a spare battery--it only takes 5 minutes to hook it up in series

Now i'm really scared of car batteries.

The answer is that 24 volts works and 12 doesn't. Do I babble to much for you? : )

So...lol funny story I live 100% off grid husband gone so me alone 8 miles from anyone and the nearest paved road. I have my 4 year old with me and 5 miles to go my passe ger tie rod breaks and well if I had a welder handy lol wow thing girl would have fix it enough and not Leave her 2011 F250 in the desert to get to her broken down honda suv(Trans was slipping I know what I'd wrong with it) so we get home the biggest storm is headed for us the next day I can't go faster then 28mph in the honda. And I have to drive to Dayton Nevada for the part. (Bottom passenger upper tie with pin) get thr part from my brother in law (owns a shop he's a mechanic) get the part let my daughter run around a little and we get back just to have every store closed not good at all. I go up the hill to my place sleep and go down to the truck very early get the part on to get this find the lower piece twisted and I had to crawl in the wheel well (mind you it's jacked up) the truck slipped off the jack due to my 4 year old jumping in the truck. Ya where was I at...ya my shoulder was given a f-you tap by the F250 for leaving it in the wild. Got it fixed but sadly I am a girl that didn't have all her tools with her. Lol yep had to figure out a few fun things on my own and MacGyver my way home with rope, bailing wire, an open door and a turning colors shoulder with numb fingers as the swelling won't stop. I get home change my greasy, muddy, and now arm in a sling self to the door and we have a total white out. I have been stuck home alone for 2 months with a 4 year old, great truck that I fixed on my own no help at all, my suv is still 2 miles away (I am worried someone will take it or light it on fire) I have gone through way more since and lost over 20 pounds due to shoving my truck out of snow 4 times and mud 3 times. The 4th time I was stuck for over 7 hours. I had broken chains and no welder. So I get to make one like I made my own sets of chains

was a little bummed out that there was no demo - if you want a video that shows a demo weld search KZread for "8tHJ0NSjZnM" - the username is WheeliePete

really then why is it that the few times ive accidentaly left a battery on the ground over night they were always dead the next day?but if i stick a board under them no problems.i think im gona go email mythbusters.

Shouldnt have them sittin right on the ground need a piece of wood under them so they dont ground out& drain

Tons of people are asking the how to apply this idea due to the lack of details of actually showing and doing this so I found a very good video that answers the dozen questions not answered by engineer775. Go to youtube member sewerzuk and he has an awesome video that actually shows how to do this PV5oLPLUzrM

Please get a tripod. It's enough to get you motion sick.

an australian bloke who lives in the outback and done a lot of travel videos also done a survival one which i haveon DVD. he showed how to do this back in the 1980's. the name is jack absalom. there is a website jackabsalom. xom. au which is about him

No amperage control = useless. Most car batteries have about 250-300 amps, and that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much for most things.

Hello: After seeing your shop welder I knew your welding experience. I have a sears AC-DC I got in 1983 maby I use 6013 or 6018 rods. I did not go to school for weiding, just for around the house. I bet the rod you use is the trick to it. I did learn not to weld in damp grass. I know you are lol now..You would never know I have a Degree in Electronics and Electricity. bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly = color code

First off , go back to whoever you got the jeep from and sue them ....Welding Tie-rods is illegal .....but being a welder , this video did make me laugh ...thanks

It just ain't true. :)

I get you can weld with batteries. You told us for 6 minutes. You left out the how

Six minutes of tease. Show me the money!

Allot of talk ..but I didn't see any welding

@clarenceingalls1

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yeah thats right a lot of talk lol !!!!

WHAT A WASTE OF TIME, HE DIDNT EVEN WELD ANYTHING.

This video does not deliver....

You do NOT show how to hock up the batteries together, Like on some other videos i have seen - So, Thumbs Down on this one !

Sorry, this is a terrible video. Perhaps you could have filmed the welding? Why record this in the dark anyway? Puzzling effort.