Watch next on Channel 4 Documentaries... ASK THE MASK: 'I CONTRACTED HIV ON PURPOSE' kzread.info/dash/bejne/oHiEq7iihq7Ad7w.html

@MissUnstoppable13

Ай бұрын

Seriously I have to ask, is there anything too degrading deviant and taboo that you wouldn't want to do a documentary on? This youtubes a family thing and this just doesn't feel appropriate for anything other than the dark Web!!

@mallbratgirl_3005

Ай бұрын

@@MissUnstoppable13 pearl cluthcher

@VIncentSunflowers

3 күн бұрын

This doco is just another way to demonize gay men and sensationalize sex. Personal responsibility is everything. "Bug chasing" is all about anger and self-loathing which certainly is not exclusive to gay men and is nothing new. Find someone else to point a finger at.

@VIncentSunflowers

3 күн бұрын

​​@@MissUnstoppable13Don't like it? Don't watch it. There is plenty on KZread for your to watch, Karen.

That’s enough internet for today.

@MrDeano-eu9rg

2 ай бұрын

And yet i bet you did another 2 hours atleast

@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii

2 ай бұрын

you may want to avoid gay topics

@smallbiztaxlady

2 ай бұрын

For the year!

@wozzle1533

2 ай бұрын

Videos like this remind me why Islam will will win

@peaceandlove679

2 ай бұрын

@@wozzle1533 Islam has won. I’m convinced it’s the only group left that has sane normal people today

wow suicidal depression has transformed itself into a fetish

@Monalisa1503

2 ай бұрын

Depravity has amazing depths

@user-fe1gb9uc1t

2 ай бұрын

nothing new in terms of humanity

@anabellepreis1920

2 ай бұрын

It's not suicidal depression, it's a fetish, that then requires my tax £ to treat these si called people

@raoulduke344

2 ай бұрын

Nha, this has been a thing for over 20 years, at least in the US. Saw a documentary on it years ago and the guys wanted to catch it basically for attention.

@ronnygibbon

2 ай бұрын

They're worried about being left out of all the good parties.

As a GenXer, I lost 5 friends to AIDS before I was 23. At least, thats what I tell ppl when I speak about living through the AIDS crisis. The truth is much worse. I actually lost 4 of those friends to suicide due to depression from their AIDS diagnosis. The Westboro Baptist Church added insult to injury by picketing some of their funerals, esp. a high-profile friend. Ppl were so scared in the 90s that they would end their life😞 So, I'm with Nathaniel. Absolutely gobsmacked.😩

@nikicarrie4071

6 күн бұрын

💔

@CEOofWasrael

3 күн бұрын

Lmao that’s based af shout out to Westburrow 😂😂😂

It's dishonorable to all those souls who lost their lives to this disease. Society has really gotten sicker and sicker.

@1stBowman

Ай бұрын

When you say society you mean homosexual men in this instance. We can not call a spade a spade anymore and it's one of the main reasons why society is imploding.

I think this is the most disturbing and bizarre documentary i've ever seen...

@astroboirap

2 ай бұрын

funny af though

@voiletwhitehorse

2 ай бұрын

@@astroboirap sorry!

@UTRipleyxoxo

2 ай бұрын

​@@astroboirapyou might need to see a psychologist.

@astroboirap

2 ай бұрын

@@UTRipleyxoxo why? It's just a bunch of pillow biters into their usual kinks

@spacewardtossah

2 ай бұрын

You havent seen much of the world then huh

The reason south park hasnt been popping for years is cos real life is now more absurd than any south park episode

@Sazkez0030-du7wh

2 ай бұрын

😮 I agree, it actually did sneak up recently, was exactly about this topic

@stampedmetalsword8099

2 ай бұрын

Nah they just ran out of ideas. They're just human.

@melodyhammett9334

2 ай бұрын

Well, watch the latest film, the Panderverse 😂

@f3rny_66

2 ай бұрын

sorry to break it to you, this has been a thing since the 80s at least

@jenniferdaulby5519

2 ай бұрын

Except for the Prince Harry & Meghan episode (his Instagram loving bi*ch wife) - it was bloody iconic & hilarious!

The first guy has to be the worst walking advertisement for Volvo ever.

@YUNGJAX999

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@yungmagik

Ай бұрын

😂

@smiauu

Ай бұрын

Typical volvo driver

@420styletomatoes6

4 күн бұрын

Volvo do make HGV's maybe he misunderstood...

I miss the person I was 20 minutes ago🧍🏽‍♂️

@bobsmith5441

Ай бұрын

😅

@were-all-human9427

28 күн бұрын

well said

@DaysAreForgottenBaby

22 күн бұрын

Same 😣

@Leahmoonbeamflower

4 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 funny.

That guy that wants HIV is a fucking idiot

@Parseenfroo

2 ай бұрын

Literally.

@firefly88887

2 ай бұрын

All that attention, all that sympathy for something that’s been self inflicted, sorry it’s a disgraceful way to behave and almost an up yours to the charities fund raising , money donated to science for research and the beautiful people stolen away from their partners , kids , parents and friends , long before there was anyway of managing it ! When I look back and think of the work people have dedicated themselves to help prolong life and manage HiV this has made my stomach churn !

@richy12377

2 ай бұрын

Big time.

@user-xr2lv4ll6j

2 ай бұрын

In a nutshell, yes.

@alison.b-za

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

The dude who wanted to get HIV doesn't understand the risk, or doesn't care about the risk. He compared the mild influenze to HIV, which is ridiculous.

@astroboirap

2 ай бұрын

get some dewormer he'll be fine

@jcanfixall1585

2 ай бұрын

Actually the guy with his face covered was HIV positive and had been for 18 months...

@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098

2 ай бұрын

He has the mental illness known as homosexuality

@tinacollins9213

2 ай бұрын

I thought that as well

@gregenhersu

2 ай бұрын

Yes, show him some footage from 1980s San Francisco. The atrophy, the Kaposi sarcoma sores allover the face. When the immune system is so weak that the usually relatively harmless herpes virus causes your anus to be totally enveloped with genital warts. Or simple athletes foot turns into untreatable tinea that covers your whole foot and runs right up your leg.

I have been HIV+ for 20 years and my viral load has been undetectable all this time. This means that I can't transmit, and it is because I am VERY disciplined with my ARV regiment. I have never needed to change my regiment and have minimum side-effects. There is ABSOLUTELY no way I will ever stop taking my ARVs just because someone else wants to be infected! I take pride in how I have been able to keep healthy and my undetectable status and it's not okay for someone to ask you to stop your medication. Your body can build a resistance after two weeks, which is before you become infectious, and you can lose your undetectable status.

@blackfishbones

Ай бұрын

Good for you dude

@samanthageach3146

Ай бұрын

I couldn't imagine asking someone to go off ANY medication for my own selfish needs. Especially something that's literally life-saving. Bless you for being open about your status and helping to end stigma. I'm glad you have minimal side effects from your treatment. I hope you continue to stay healthy.

@sharonrigs7999

28 күн бұрын

This would have been magic in the 80's. I was there for the beginning. It was terrifying

@francescozaccaron

27 күн бұрын

I think thanks of medication some people lost the memory of what was hiv and aids…And I really can’t understand this fetish…

@jacquesdurand8148

26 күн бұрын

@@francescozaccaron My ex-partner worked in rural clinics here in Afrika where he saw many people who thought that ARV was a cure and then they became resistent when they stopped taking their ARVs. Often leading to death. It truly is a horrible sight. He would break down crying from what he saw. If people only understood what they are asking for, they would definitely not be asking.

My partner of 6 yrs cheated and was leading a double life. He came home and told me he contacted HIV. I tested negative. I went on Prep because I couldn’t just leave him. His mother had also just died. Every morning having to take Prep was just a reminder of his dishonesty. I found out he hadn’t changed. All I did by supporting him was hurt my mental health. It was honestly like he had died. The man I loved never existed. For me it created huge trust issues and I’ve been alone since

@bw6411

Ай бұрын

Don't let him win and find your soul mate.

@brandonhealy7158

Ай бұрын

@@bw6411i agree, there is someone out there for everyone 😇

@PeterSellers-yw9us

Ай бұрын

Stop talking

@chocolatesugar4434

Ай бұрын

Honestly, you were insane to stay with him. You need to love yourself before true love will ever be able to exist in your life.

@ashotofmercury

Ай бұрын

You deserve better my friend! Hope you're doing better today. ✊🏻🥰

Why can't you acknowledge that mental illness is also at play??

@dw4525

2 ай бұрын

You’re not allowed to say that

@alanarmstrong6460

2 ай бұрын

You cant sat the truth anymore.

@silverkitty2503

2 ай бұрын

I dont think he is denying that.

@Mimix476

2 ай бұрын

Or perversion / paraphilia.

@spacewardtossah

2 ай бұрын

Because its ridiculously easy to go from "its bad mental health to be DELIBERATELY getting sick" and "its mental illness being gay", most of these replies are homophobic too

Very sad to see folk wanting an incurable disease, even worse those willing to 'gift'.

@queenofthebutterflies5212

2 ай бұрын

Suicidal

@VeteranHedonist

2 ай бұрын

It's not a positive thing to do (excuse the pun).

@ghftbh9274

2 ай бұрын

@@VeteranHedonist🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

What about kids doing drugs that can kill them easily during an overdose? Junkies take a much higher risk. Not to mention alcoholics who sometimes die young due to intoxication or liver disease.... As for HIV, current meds can prevent the virus from decreasing life expectancy, up to 100%. Unlike drugs and alcohol that can cause death if overdosed, within minutes, not even hours later.... Junkies and alcoholics disgust me much more than those hiv fetishists because their behaviour is much more accepted than so called "bug chasing". Alcohol and drug chasers are more ill from a mental point of view, in my opinion.

@harrietxo2310

2 ай бұрын

@@VeteranHedonist😭

The story of the guy wanting the cruiser to make his husband positive is so sad, deeply upsetting and I couldn’t imagine putting the person who I love more than anything else ever has literally made me cry at the thought. How could you want to do that? How could you not feel a sense of protection for the person you love? What the hell is wrong with some people 😢

@penultimania4295

22 күн бұрын

because gays don't love, it's what you get when you have males x2 in a relationship, it's just complete deviancy.

It wasn't that long ago that HIV was a guaranteed death and knowingly passing it on was a jail able offence. It is alarming just how quickly society goes from fear, to complacency and then to deviancy.

@Somedude20282

2 ай бұрын

It's still a jailable offence btw.

@dwillbecancelledsoon4086

2 ай бұрын

Bruh these are people who get off on the most degraded unnatural acts. Are you really that surprised they’d turn a deadly illness into a fetish?

@crustinagohard9049

Ай бұрын

Interesting perspective and well said

@kathylennerds750

Ай бұрын

I would hesitate condemning our whole society for a very VERY niche fetish community. Now, what you said however 100% goes for how society deals with Covid now!

@janerecluse4344

Ай бұрын

Bug-chasing isn't new.

The first guy he interviewed seems to have nothing left to live for and no self worth. It's so sad :(

@sdrawkcabUK

2 ай бұрын

He’s in his 50s. No kids, no marriage, probably no LTR. Has probably done everything in life he wants to and is facing 20-30 years of aging. It’s basically a slow motion suicide.

@josepheridu3322

2 ай бұрын

@@sdrawkcabUK Good point. Loneliness will be so hurtful for gays, it is already for everyone else.

@NicholasMorning-ex7ec

Ай бұрын

​@@josepheridu3322 it does suck...better than being hurt tho .illbe a single lez till I pass . That's just life . For me anyways

@HenrikBergpianorganist

Ай бұрын

@@sdrawkcabUK I know people in their 70's or even 80's living their lives to the fullest. If you feel you have done everything in life already at 53 you have way too low expectations of your life. You create your own life. He's a sad case, ready to die at that age.

@sdrawkcabUK

Ай бұрын

@@HenrikBergpianorganist some people are slow burners. Other fast. The reality is his age you are facing 20-30 years of declining health, declining cognitive ability, declining mobility, and declining independence. If you’ve not been financially successful in life then there will also be poverty when you retire. Let others do as they wish, but it makes perfect sense to me if someone assesses that and decides to say no

"Its like the flu" our education system failed them.

@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559

2 ай бұрын

They've been failed by a lot more than the education system...

@SirRandyofcxcheshire

2 ай бұрын

they said that about the black death..

@deadprivacy

2 ай бұрын

Its fashionable. Its a career in itself. The lack of self awareness of "mr destroy the stigma" is stunning.

@ManoharDeka

2 ай бұрын

Education system is corrupted​@@deadprivacy

@Saethyr

2 ай бұрын

​@deadprivacy Not fashionable. He's advocating for education to prevent HIV and telling others with HIV how to cope with it. Having HIV isn't his job, educating people on the risk and treatment is his job.

Anyone that actively seeks out any disease should not be allowed socialized medicine or insurance.

@samanthageach3146

Ай бұрын

Aside from psychiatric care.

@hecutsdown91

23 күн бұрын

Nope. That’s not how doctors work

@bean1sprout

23 күн бұрын

you could say the same about drug addicts or the obese

@thefridge7335

22 күн бұрын

​@@bean1sproutusing food or drgs to cope is completely different than ACTIVELY harming yourself for a ftish

@miseryrat1943

20 күн бұрын

That is just ignoring the mental illness at play.

From what I've heard, this originated back when getting HIV was still untreatable and the stress of worrying about getting it made them think 'well, if I just get it I won't have to worry about it".

@janerecluse4344

Ай бұрын

Seriously, bug-chasing during the full flower of the Plague Years made a certain dark sense. It felt like the Gay Apocalypse. Friends, lovers, family, dying all around you, no end in sight, a president who literally told the CDC not to do anything about it... shit, get it, share blood with your brothers, die together like some sad-ass, lesion-covered Spartans. But now?!

@modupeejemai8026

3 күн бұрын

@@janerecluse4344 now it’s moreso just a fetish BECAUSE it’s treatable so i don’t think it’s comparable to the era in the early 2000s back when everyone thought it was inevitable

This is so disturbing. People actively seeking out people to infect them with a disease that will kill them. That's so messed up.

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

What about doing drugs that can kill them easily during an overdose? Junkies take a much higher risk. Not to mention alcoholics who sometimes die young due to intoxication or liver disease....

@TurboMintyFresh

2 ай бұрын

What is even your point with this stupid comment. Are you you trying to rationalise what these sick freaks are doing?@@Seventh7Art

@PeteWaan

2 ай бұрын

@@Seventh7Art Drugs make you feel good, completely different.

@mendmywings7238

2 ай бұрын

I think the "gift givers" are more disturbing

@dwillbecancelledsoon4086

2 ай бұрын

Gift givers are doing god’s work lol

I lost my best friend to HIV. By the time he knew about it, it had damaged his body and he passed from cancer. He was in his forties & the loveliest person.

@harveyneedleman817

2 ай бұрын

I lost a friend the same way too 30 years ago. It affects me more now than it did then , maybe that's just what age does to you. I am astounded that people would actively chase the bug.

@RedHeadForester

2 ай бұрын

My neighbour lost pretty much all of his friends to HIV in the 80's. He survived several years positive before the first medication became available. I can understand the thrill seeking thing, but it boggles my mind as to why someone would dice with such an unpleasant death for that thrill...

@jjr1728

2 ай бұрын

Was it the good aids or the bad aids though?

@jc5202

2 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry for your loss 😢

@jc5202

2 ай бұрын

​@@jjr1728there's no such thing as good or bad aids.. aids is aids end of story

As a gay man this is why I'm celibate.

@jonnyfendi2003

Ай бұрын

Prep has basically ended this whole bug chasing movement

@onexonesie

29 күн бұрын

@@jonnyfendi2003 I don't trust the long term side effects of prep, and I'm not going to get on medication to have sex. That's absurd.

@UserFriendly-ec6tl

21 күн бұрын

Respect to you

@jonathanlandau-litewski7405

9 күн бұрын

Good lad. I'm a gay man in a ltr and I value monogamy.

@UserFriendly-ec6tl

9 күн бұрын

@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 It's nice to hear that there are normal self respecting people like yourself in the gay community.

As someone who grew up at the height of the AIDS epidemic, this is absolutely wild. I feel like I'm in Upside Down Land. Such strange times we are living in. I can't imagine how difficult it was for the host to do this documentary. Like all of the good work he is doing spreading awareness and destigmatizing this disease is being countered by reckless degenerates chasing a kink 🙁

@christopher9727

2 ай бұрын

This is evil no one can escape God judgment of condemnation if they don't repent of their sins no matter what sin Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

As a person living with HIV and undetectable. My biggest fear is passing it on to others. I have knowing about chasers, but this angers me beyond belief

@melt2947

2 ай бұрын

Bless you ❤

@MrDeano-eu9rg

2 ай бұрын

So do u have a partner?

@breadfan_85

2 ай бұрын

Same here. I didn't have sex for years after my diagnosis out of fear of passing it on, even though I was undetectable basically the entire time. When I finally did start having sex again, I mostly stuck with other HIV positive partners, and always made sure my status was known. And I have encountered chasers a number of times and I always turn them down, and plead with them to reconsider what they are doing.

@mannygecko9596

Ай бұрын

Same. It’s insane. I usually curse them out when they come at me with that gift them crap. Like do they even understand what it means to have this. Yes we can take a pill and be “okay” but that doesn’t make it any easier there’s the mental health aspect of it, it’s a different journey for everyone, or the way it changes social interactions bc there’s still stigma attached to it, romantic intimacy changes bc people aren’t educated enough to understand. Or how the body in general is still affected even though it’s not a death sentence. I can’t, Scotty beam me up bc I’m done here.

@isabellalora6533

Ай бұрын

@@mannygecko9596on treatment is the body still affected of hiv?

This is very disturbing. It is also incredibly offensive to people who didn't intentionally contract the virus.

@absurdbird3556

2 ай бұрын

They just "accidentally" forgot to use condoms then? Or didn't care that much either?

@neongirluk

2 ай бұрын

@@absurdbird3556 Lots of people get it in various ways. People sometimes forget, people are raped, injecting drugs, childbirth all sorts. Keep your judgements at the door.

@absurdbird3556

2 ай бұрын

I'm talking about this man, who doesn't seem to realise it was his choice not to use a condom, every much as these other "bug chaser" guys. Every gay man knows not wearing a condom = risky sex. From another gay guy who's always used condoms and doesn't have any STDs. @@neongirluk

@roygeorge5364

2 ай бұрын

​@@absurdbird3556shitty comment mate - people contracted HIV back in the day from blood transfusions. They got HIV from the Drs they trusted to help them with existing health issues. How was that their fault? If you weren't around in the late 80's early 90's to see this mess, then don't comment. And if you were then shame on you!

@lisatroni677

2 ай бұрын

Agreed and anyone very unwell

I know someone that went and got themselves infected to take advantage of assistance programs. The second he was diagnosed, he went and got himself into a housing program, got food stamps, and applied for disability. He wasn't even sick or anything. He was fully capable of working and paying his own bills. Made me sick because I contracted the virus on accident, worked until I literally couldn't anymore, and when he was pulling this, I was fighting to get better so I could go BACK to work.

@old5333

2 ай бұрын

I understand. But if you are entitled to al those benefits please take advantage of that. Be kind to yourself.

@Nyc99

Ай бұрын

Any benefit is given to people that not going to live past 65. Why would they want some really sick people money, they should be put in jail sick and all, how horrible imbeciles

@chrishenniker5944

Ай бұрын

It’s a sign of how the aims of the Beverage Report have been perverted and distorted. It’s the premise for a black comedy come to life.

@thefridge7335

22 күн бұрын

I mean cant deny that it was a rather clever move

@breadfan_85

22 күн бұрын

@@thefridge7335 I guess, if you don't mind being a leech on society.

"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not yet completely sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

I have a close friend with HIV, he's doing brilliant with medicine but it's not something he chose and to choose this is crazy.

@dstar8487

2 ай бұрын

KZread removing comments on here for what reason I do not understand...

@gazzy9136

2 ай бұрын

I get my comments removed all the time. KZread turned soft like society these days@@dstar8487

@roygeorge5364

2 ай бұрын

​@@dstar8487you tube does it all the time - it's a mass form of censorship. I'm noticing comments like yours everyday regarding missing comments 🤷🤷

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

What about kids doing drugs that can kill them easily during an overdose? Junkies take a much higher risk. Not to mention alcoholics who sometimes die young due to intoxication or liver disease.... As for HIV, current meds can prevent the virus from decreasing life expectancy, up to 100%. Unlike drugs and alcohol that can cause death if overdosed, within minutes, not even hours later.... Junkies and alcoholics disgust me much more than those hiv fetishists because their behaviour is much more accepted than so called "bug chasing". Alcohol and drug chasers are more ill from a mental point of view, in my opinion.

@HillbillyYEEHAA

2 ай бұрын

My cousin has hiv. He got it from his ex who lied about it.

The entitlement to NHS treatment when you've deliberately sought out an illness.... Huh?

@benzobrimzs

2 ай бұрын

That's exactly what I thought.

@zentzu4003

2 ай бұрын

there's alot worse, that's nothing... people do many things for pleasure that knowingly affect their health...

@Everest_Climber

2 ай бұрын

That could also apply to all the people with liver damage (alcohol and drugs), kidney damage (anabolic steroids), plastic surgery abroad gone wrong, diabetes (too many carbs, too little exercise), obesity (too much food, too little exercise). The welfare state needs to have most of the population feeling they need it. How else do the politicians find excuses for all the taxes that they use to feather their nests and to cause wars in other countries?

@gregenhersu

2 ай бұрын

he did pay his taxes though lol

@BlazeCon97

2 ай бұрын

Not defending his stance or agreeing with it, but in the UK you will be treated regardless of anything you've ever done, and will be given immediate treatment if you collapse or your heart rate goes up or down massively

This is not only deeply disturbing, but this will also harm the gay rights movement. It isn't fair towards the majority of gay men that this crazy minority could potentially destroy what they have been fighting for for so long.

@MJ-qb5ph

Ай бұрын

Agree. It is totally narcisstic and solely ego based

@jack_stone

21 күн бұрын

It's not going to harm the movement other than maybe a few grifters having a new toy to play with. Anyone knows this isn't the majority of gay men.

The presenter/creator is very charismatic and intelligent. Makes such a disturbing and difficult topic way more digestible. Kudos to the whole team.

You'd have to feel so worthless to think this way, and have suicidal thoughts but be too afraid to die outright. Your mind would turn suicidal shame into something sexual. The risk would become exciting. Unprotected sex would be an act of deliberate self harm. The idea of being given 'the gift' would suddenly give your 'worthless' life some twisted meaning. There's also the possibility they would adore to be cared for by health professionals or want to be seen as a victim, which makes me think of people who have a similar self-destructive kink about amputating their limbs

@chrishenniker5944

2 ай бұрын

I wonder if there’s something more Freudian about this? The union of Eros and Thanatos.

@iLilith11

2 ай бұрын

Good analysis

@adamhowarth9305

2 ай бұрын

Cos all they want is attention. Such sad losers

@davidvasey5065

2 ай бұрын

Really helps that sort of attitude​@@adamhowarth9305

@bivtheast

2 ай бұрын

​@@adamhowarth9305 what's sad and loser like about wanting attention? We all literally need it to live, just look at what solitary confinement does to people. The world is so incredibly individualistic now it doesn't surprise me we see behavior like this

Strange world we’re living in

@richard7645

2 ай бұрын

Lockdown made us all a little disturbing

@mj.l

Ай бұрын

@@richard7645 and 20 years of neoliberalism, centuries of sexual stigma etc. shit's fucked, people respond accordingly

HIV is one of my biggest fears! This seems crazy.

I remember right after Freddie Mercury died Brian May & Rodger Deacon were pleading on 'This Morning' talk show that "it's not a cool, fashionable disease"

@aporue5893

26 күн бұрын

the 1st thing I thought of was freddie mercury.R.I.P. 😔

I have an autoimmune condition called rheumatoid arthritis which is a lifelong condition once it decides to develop. I have now had it for 30 plus years. It has literally taken my life away, and technically it can't directly kill me though eventually it may get into my heart and do that. This was caused by a malfunctioning immune system, Im on a welter of heavy drugs and a constant round of medical appointments. It breaks down joints and now I can barely walk despite already having had 2 replacement joints. What I'm saying is that conditions like these literally take your life away, please please don't contract a KILLER autoimmune disease deliberately because you cannot imagine the pain and loss. You cannot imagine what it is like for the people who love you. And yes, even having worked all my life and paid into the NHS my contributions to my treatments are a drop in the ocean and I feel that keenly. If you cannot think of yourself, PLEASE think of all the other people you will hurt. Thanks so much. ❤

@rumblzs

2 ай бұрын

I'm sorry for you. I hope your ok.

@elenawilliams32

2 ай бұрын

Your words are obviously heartfelt with brilliant intentions. I hope someone reading your comment takes it to heart and it makes them think about the long term consequences. Also, I sincerely hope that you still manage to find some happiness and joy in each day... And that your pain is manageable as pain is the thief of joy. Take care.

@jameswatson5807

2 ай бұрын

"autoimmune condition called rheumatoid arthritis" wow the first I ever hear of this my grandmother had this for decades, she thought it was being in a cold environment that cause it.

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

Unlike rheumatoid arthritis, HIV today is not even an issue. Current meds can provide a healthy life with zero decease in life expectancy. You literally live like HIV does not exist inside. The only "hassle" is the daily pill. Big deal really.

@briskettacos

2 ай бұрын

​@Seventh7Art That is only true as long as the current supply chain exists. Bear in mind that most medicines are made overseas. A simple supply chain disruption can easily take retroviral medication away, leaving those with the disease in danger. It's not to be taken for granted how fragile our safety is.

Clearly I live a very sheltered life because I had no idea this was even a thing 😳 absolutely shocking

@jaijai5250

2 ай бұрын

Me too, and I’m happy to continue in my sheltered life.

@ToriGee88

2 ай бұрын

You ought to research 'stealthing' too

@Puddleduck1

2 ай бұрын

@@ToriGee88 not sure I'm brave enough 🤣🤣🤣

@ToriGee88

2 ай бұрын

'stealthing' when someone removes a condom during sex without the other person's consent or lies about putting one on in the first place. Stealthing is illegal and rape under English and Welsh law.@@Puddleduck1

After all the MILLIONS who died, particularly in the early days of the virus, this is an absolute ABOMINATION.

@KA-su9ww

Ай бұрын

There sick in the head

This documentary proves to me that anything you think could be a universal perspective that people have (e.g. everyone wants to be healthy and would view a serious disease as a bad thing) just isn't true. People are crazy.

Utterly disgusting 🤮 behaviour

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

What about kids doing drugs that can kill them easily during an overdose? Junkies take a much higher risk. Not to mention alcoholics who sometimes die young due to intoxication or liver disease.... As for HIV, current meds can prevent the virus from decreasing life expectancy, up to 100%. Unlike drugs and alcohol that can cause death if overdosed, within minutes, not even hours later.... Junkies and alcoholics disgust me much more than those hiv fetishists because their behaviour is much more accepted than so called "bug chasing". Alcohol and drug chasers are more ill from a mental point of view, in my opinion.

@AntedianDignitary

2 ай бұрын

Which part? lol

@JayCee-tp2gv

2 ай бұрын

Well they are gay. Why are you shocked ?

@dwillbecancelledsoon4086

2 ай бұрын

Gemorrah needs to be destroyed

@shahee6579

Ай бұрын

The gay bit​@@AntedianDignitary

The ‘bug chasers’ need help. The ‘gift givers’ need to be put on community treatment orders, as they are a risk to themselves and others.

I had a panic attack watching this! ALWAYS TAKE PREP! Can’t trust anyone sadly 😢

@OptimusPrimordial

Ай бұрын

I'm a little ashamed of my ignorance... what is prep? Is that like British for "protection ", like condoms?

@richhhhhh4720

Ай бұрын

@@OptimusPrimordial it's a worldwide thing I believe, it's stops you contracting hiv

@Goldfishfishgold

Ай бұрын

​@@OptimusPrimordial It's medication that you can take prior to s3x that radically reduces the likelihood of HIV transmission. Taking PrEP and using a condom at the same time is practically full proof at preventing the spread of HIV. It's fantastic that science has come this far! If you have the time you should look it up online to learn more

@QEhsyozsqhbj

Ай бұрын

@@OptimusPrimordial It's short for Pre-exposure prophylaxis. It's a type of medication that an HIV-negative person can take in order to prevent themselves becoming infected if they have sex with an HIV-positive person, although I have no idea how effective it is (edit: According to Wikipedia, who have sourced their data from the US CDC, it reduces the risk of transmission via sex by 99% and transmission via drug injection by at least 74%, so it's pretty effective, by the sounds of it).

@OptimusPrimordial

Ай бұрын

@@QEhsyozsqhbj thank you

If you go out of your way to contract a disease like HIV you should have to pay for your care. Choosing to further burden the NHS makes you a complete arsehole. The level of entitlement is ridiculous!

@melt2947

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@sdrawkcabUK

2 ай бұрын

Yes but you could say the same about a chronic alcoholic who’s destroyed his liver or a rugby player with a sports injury.

@Thinkiworkfordelta

2 ай бұрын

Does the same go for physical self harm and attempted suicide ?

@michaeltoner1993

2 ай бұрын

@@sdrawkcabUKthere's not quite the same level of intent in either of those cases though, is there?

@sdrawkcabUK

2 ай бұрын

@@michaeltoner1993 no but there’s an equal risk of getting ill/injured and becoming in a drain on the nhs, for completely avoidable activities. Personally I’d be happy seeing a shakeup of the nhs along these lines though it would be a fundamental change of its ethos ie free at point of use no questions asked. Not sure the British public are ready for that one yet.

Nathaniel reaction to the forum was so upsetting. He is absolutely right . What has humanity sunk too?

@shakeitoff1000

2 ай бұрын

humanity has always been fucked up. the only thing that changes over time is the format of that depravity.

@MrKrusten

2 ай бұрын

Whenever i see stuff like this i get amazed at how much our future will resemble cyberpunk 2077

@jameswatson5807

2 ай бұрын

Humanity did not sink people have always been like this it is just that you did not know.

@Genesisorgin

2 ай бұрын

People have always been fucked up its just now we get to see it

@GangsterFrankensteinComputer

2 ай бұрын

@@jameswatson5807 yup, I knew about gifting years ago, and it was less disturbing than some of the other online communities, I know, that exist. None of it's new, it's just very strange to see people form online communities were they discuss these interests the same way a normal person would discuss current events.

It broke my heart to see you crying. I’m so sorry you had to go through this journey so young…. I can’t imagine. Yes you did the right thing, making this film was necessary…

As a positive guy, this makes me soooo fvkjng sad and mad. Even if the scientists find a cure, it will never be eradicated because of this INSANE animals.

Wow, this literally blew my mind. My eldest daughter who is now 26 became friends with another girl at the start of high school so aged 13, at age 16 this girl was dating a much older man, she chose to lose her virginity to him and he was HIV positive but she didnt know, at age 16 she became HIV positive too, she then not only had to battle that but she became so depressed and suicidal for many years, how ANYONE could want to get or give HIV to someone is unthinkable to me and tbh fvcking disgusting. This young man also brought up a very interesting point, what about the cost to the PUBLIC health systems?? Because while that man can have the attitude that he has paid his taxes all his life so he believes his covered... he clearly has ZERO understanding about who much these medications cost and his "many years" of paid up taxes would cover only a very short period of the healthcare needs he will require and then the burden is on everybody else for his silly choice.

@beckenham2020

2 ай бұрын

How scary for young adults. It can happen just like that.

@anyagee9467

2 ай бұрын

She didn't "choose" to lose her virginity to him. He committed staturory rape.

@fi-train8961

2 ай бұрын

Can you legally have sex with a much older man at 16? That is dreadful that man should be held accountable.

@gfutrhbf

2 ай бұрын

@@fi-train8961 unfortunately, it is legal.

@natv55

2 ай бұрын

​@@fi-train8961 once you are legal (in the UK it is 16) age gaps are not unlawful. Morally questionable yes, but other than that... 🤷🏽‍♀️ let's face it, only a few decades ago young women were marrying much older men with the blessing of their families. In some cultures this is still 'normal' 😑

This was so compassionately done considering the stake the presenter has in the whole story. Really impressive.

@tahsina.c

Ай бұрын

​@@1stBowman No thanks. That shit belongs in the past. We need objectivity not blind compassion but at the same time we dont need the hatred spread by Christian nutters, zealous puritans and other losers. This is the religion that thinks a snake manipulated a woman into causing the downfall of man. Be sensible.

This just breaks my heart for all the people lost to AIDS in the 80s and 90s who didnt know, who didnt have a chance, who didnt get a choice. Stomach churning.

Im a gay male, who practices safe sex... I never even knew this was a THING! It disgusts me!

@peterolley7159

2 ай бұрын

I can’t get my head around this at all , you don’t need to explain that you’re gay ! That’s not your fault i that because obviously there are people that judge others but that stuff that’s going on is outrageous isn’t it 😊

@Nyc99

Ай бұрын

Me either, i thought gay man wouldnt be a slut, he would fall in love, this blew me of planet

So sad but I’m glad channel 4 are shedding light on this. When I used to come across ads on craigslist relating to that “fetish”. It was that moment I knew humanity had sunk to a new low.

@firefly88887

2 ай бұрын

What’s worrying is the people who haven’t consented, e.g that guys husband, or some youngster who is new and naive to the scene, it’s horrifying in that along the journey, without doubt someone is being murdered- is that the aim to see how many people you can murder with your penis ?

@ColonelSanders-xo9hp

2 ай бұрын

This has been going on for over a decade

Too much time on their hands man, if they were in a society where the meds weren't free they would just die.

@captaincorleone7088

2 ай бұрын

They're free only to those that are out of work, otherwise you have to pay for NHS prescriptions in England.

@zannatul23

2 ай бұрын

@@captaincorleone7088 oh yh but in Scotland its free

@truth-hurts3089

2 ай бұрын

Yearly pre paid Prescription cost I assume is much less than actual drug costs y​@@captaincorleone7088

@Sockmatician

2 ай бұрын

@@captaincorleone7088I would like to politely correct you here. All sexual health treatment in England and Wales is completely free, without even the need to pay a prescription charge. This is to make sure that there are no barriers to people being able to get the help they need. HIV meds are completely free.

@tracy_en6372

2 ай бұрын

​@@captaincorleone7088 no, drugs are free if u have got a chronic or incurable illness. HIV and most sexual health meds are free.

dang suicidal depression has transformed itself into a fetish

I really felt for you making this documentary- it can’t have been easy. Thank you for your care and compassion. That makes you part of the healing of the trauma in my opinion.

@jonnyfendi2003

Ай бұрын

You really believe that garbage you just wrote???

To knowingly give someone HIV in the UK amounts to the criminal offence of GBH (not sure if ‘with intent’ implies). It is my understanding that there are certain offences a person cannot consent to being committed on them under any circumstances. Sex with a minor is the most obvious example. Being murdered, assisted in suicide and GBH are some others. These ‘gifters’ are committing GBH every time they pass on the virus and if identified and apprehended, should be prosecuted.

@ColonelSanders-xo9hp

2 ай бұрын

By that logic, if you had COVID and passed it on; you're responsible for deaths too

@pscary1

2 ай бұрын

@@ColonelSanders-xo9hp COVID doesn’t kill every person who gets it. The mortality rate for COVID is less than 1%. HIV left untreated will lead to you dying of AIDS related illnesses 99.9% of the time. Perhaps stick to selling chicken at the drive thru!

@zeldagoblin

2 ай бұрын

No because the intent isn't there. Covid isn't a terminal illness

@Cleopatress_tarot

2 ай бұрын

@@ColonelSanders-xo9hp hence why they said 'with consent'

@JONAYA

2 ай бұрын

A person can't consent to harmful sexual behaviour - R v Brown. So even if the person 'consented' the individual giving them the HIV would still be committing an offence of GBH.

Meanwhile my beautiful friend passed away with cancer,, what’s with it with these 🤡🤡🤡…

@patriciasanderson2171

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. I have a kidney condition, had to have a kidney transplant. I’m not sure I can watch this sick stuff as it makes me angry.

@ingapl4088

28 күн бұрын

I have muscle atrophy, l can't live healthy person life and some people want this horrible illness, it's sick....

I know a gay man who says that the gay community could have done so much to help stop the spread of HIV in the 80s and 90s, but that they didn't because they refused to reign in their sex drives. This film makes me see what he means.

@onexonesie

29 күн бұрын

As a gay man, the gay community infuriates me. They had and still have no foresight. Putting their carnal desires ahead of the betterment of the community in the long run.

That’s just stupid. I watched my cousin fight his HIV for 27+ years before he died at age 53

I feel sad for them. This is a form of self-destruction, like excessive drinking and taking drugs etc. but much worse...It's very likely that they have some kind of mental health conditions or trauma or both

@ThadieusFerris

Ай бұрын

wow sounds like they were betting on heard immunity like with COVID...

@elleandpanatravels

7 күн бұрын

Definitely trauma

Anyone who intentionally infects themselves shouldn't get NHS treatment.

@blueskies666

2 ай бұрын

It’s a crime

@marleyhill34

2 ай бұрын

Where do we draw the line? No treatment for smokers? No treatment for obese people? No treatment for mentally ill people who self harm, or stop eating?

@ecclesiastes1175

Ай бұрын

@@marleyhill34 Those are fair too.

Depression and loneliness is the bigger story here. Self harm isn't exactly a mystery in that context.

I watched men die of this in the late 80’s and 90’s. As a result of the incubation period, they didn’t know they were HIV positive. When it came known how it was spread, it was too late for these men. They died horrific deaths. I note the men interviewed are of the generation who know better.

One of the most upsetting documentaries I've seen... its sick and wrong I feel so bad for all the poor nice normal guys that are now dead or living with hiv that absolutely did not choose to get infected. It seems like every day lately i see something that makes me question the human race totally i just will never understand some people what on earth has gone wrong here

@zeldagoblin

2 ай бұрын

I hate to be "that guy", but I have to say i think it's just too much freedom, excess and indulgence. If there aren't that many frontiers and rivers to cross, people look for more taboos to get a rush. We don't have to lift heavy things much these days, so we built gymnasiums, where we pick up heavy things and put then down again, repeatedly. It's so bizarre. More and more, people are into twisted and sick porn, only fans and Insta nudity etc. I feel the freedom pendulum over swung and the backlash isn't going to be pretty. There'll be a reckoning, fairly soon I fear.

@1stBowman

Ай бұрын

I beg you to turn to Jesus Christ. This world is fast imploding and will end soon. Greed, violence, selfishness, sexual immorality, Godlessness, etc. is being normalised. The list of offences against our creator is almost endless. Despite this He wants us all to be saved and for our souls to spend eternity with Him in the light. To do that you must turn to Him with a humble and contrite heart. I strongly believe that there will be a warning for humankind in the next two years. This will be the last chance for humans to repent and believe. During this warning everyone will see themselves as God sees us. All our evil will become clear to us and we will be shown where we would go if we were to die then and there - heaven, purgatory or hell.

This so disturbing and disgusting. Such people with this behaviour should be isolated from the rest of the society.

@Lucy-el9mm

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree

@stadiumarcadium2351

2 ай бұрын

Sharia is the way.

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

What about kids doing drugs that can kill them easily during an overdose? Junkies take a much higher risk. Not to mention alcoholics who sometimes die young due to intoxication or liver disease.... As for HIV, current meds can prevent the virus from decreasing life expectancy, up to 100%. Unlike drugs and alcohol that can cause death if overdosed, within minutes, not even hours later.... Junkies and alcoholics disgust me much more than those hiv fetishists because their behaviour is much more accepted than so called "bug chasing". Alcohol and drug chasers are more ill from a mental point of view, in my opinion.

@rickysmyth

2 ай бұрын

That's the reason they do it. Don't isolate people. Be good

@BlazeCon97

2 ай бұрын

That's what many places still say about any non hetero people, and many countries did for many centuries. Not excusing spreading this, I think it's wrong too, just saying isolating someone from society means either imprisonment or...they'd have to have entire teams for each person they want to keep from society, all for the sake of preventing them ever being near people

Thank you for making this, thank you for shedding light on this. ❤

Bruh, I don't even like giving people my cold.

Fascinating documentary. Very well spoken presenter who treats the topic seriously.

They say that they want it but who really in their right mind would want that kind of death sentence the world is so messed up

This is so fascinating but also disturbing. Thanks for shedding a light on this. I think it stems from shame and it is really sad for those involved

when he said, “the light is fading, rapidly” I really felt that

@were-all-human9427

28 күн бұрын

and when he said "it's cold", was code for "You're an idiot, I just want to get away from you"

I saw an American documentary on this subject 20+ years ago (here on KZread and it's worth a watch if it's still on the platform "Bug Chasers and Gift Givers I think it was called). The two subjects were so eager to catch the virus so they could get attention from friends, get a little "biohazard" tattoo. When they were told they were positive after going to secret parties they were broken. Absolutely devastated. 20 years ago, it was still treatable there was a time limit and AIDS was an inevitability. Funny enough, I've never heard of any heroin addicts being asked to give someone this virus.

@BlazeCon97

2 ай бұрын

Sorry to be that guy but youtube started it 2006, so it can't have been 20+ years ago

@raoulduke344

2 ай бұрын

​@@BlazeCon97 You're completely correct, my bad. The documentary was filmed sometime between 1999-2002, when the virus was still a death sentence and these poor naive kids basically got it into their heads that it was cool to have. The scene where they get their test results, and it hits them that they've signed their own death warrant was quite sad. But, I mean, what did they expect? I got the date of when I watched it wrong, but the actual Bug Chasers/Gift Givers is definitely over 20 years old.

@SimmyBassline

2 ай бұрын

@@raoulduke344 the doc is called the gift and was released in 2003

@dannycolverson6944

2 ай бұрын

​​@@BlazeCon97Jesus Christ...things existed before KZread and sometimes those things get uploaded to KZread....hence 20 year old documentaries existence on an 18 year old platform. FFS

@BlazeCon97

2 ай бұрын

@dannycolverson6944 awww I'm so sowwy I upset you :)

As a gay man with Positive men in my life I think this is gross!

@ItsSpecialHands

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it must be so horrid and hurtful for people who've been unfortunate enough to get hiv to have to see these fucking knuckleheads going out of their way to get it

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

What about kids doing drugs that can kill them easily during an overdose? Junkies take a much higher risk. Not to mention alcoholics who sometimes die young due to intoxication or liver disease.... As for HIV, current meds can prevent the virus from decreasing life expectancy, up to 100%. Unlike drugs and alcohol that can cause death if overdosed, within minutes, not even hours later.... Junkies and alcoholics disgust me much more than those hiv fetishists because their behaviour is much more accepted than so called "bug chasing". Alcohol and drug chasers are more ill from a mental point of view, in my opinion. Those who willingly kill themselves with drugs and alcohol and smoking are multiple times more than those who die from aids. That is the harsh truth. HIV chasing may seem more perverse than drug, alcohol or smoking (ab)use, but in reality, HIV is far less lethal than those disgusting practices that cause cancer or even quick death by overdose (intoxication, poisoning, aggressive cancer etc.).

@AI-Records24

2 ай бұрын

What next, is fire hot? Water wet? Bloodyhell Sherlock😅

I haven’t been utterly speechless over a doc in a long time. I’m hurt for everyone involved because you really must’ve given up on yourself completely to be willing to die over sex. I’m not even comfortable calling it a fetish, this disease has wiped out so many people, destroyed so many families. It’s just heartbreaking to see it diminished down to a “kink”? Like what??

My sisters ex has hiv and it’s not a nice condition he’s on strong meds daily for rest of his life and he’s more prone to getting unwell from things and he caught cancer cause of it and it was hard so why anyone would want this is beyond me xx

@krono9451

2 ай бұрын

You can't just catch cancer.

Thinking the NHS should treat him because he's paid his taxes is the ultimate sense of entitlement. There's not a endless amount of money, trained staff, hosptal beds, medication and equipment to treat idiots like this.

@krono9451

2 ай бұрын

I mean if we're talking about someone with cancer who's saying they should be treated, because they paid for the NHS via taxes, then is that also an ultimate sense of entitlement?

@zeldagoblin

2 ай бұрын

No because they didn't deliberately get cancer, dufus

@tatianabalde199

2 ай бұрын

@@krono9451how can you even compare it? These people are PURPOSELY getting HIV 🤦🏾‍♀️

@gillian3420

2 ай бұрын

@@krono9451no one actively chooses to get cancer and burden the NHS

@marleyhill34

2 ай бұрын

He's mentally ill and has no plans on living for a long time. So the cost of trying to stay alive, doing healthy safe and functional is more than catching something will shorten your life span. I'm someone who's not afraid of dying and actually will feel relieved when I know it's going to happen.

I dont have HIV, but I have CIDP which is an autoimmune disease. I lost my leg because of it (kinda, more an accident caused by it). It's a nightmare to live with this shit, truly. People who want this are not knowledgeable about what they're signing up for. Truly.

You are a good person highlighting this and your dogs are gorgeous, keep safe!❤️❤️

Watching this really made me worry, Much like when I watched a video about people who wanted to do this to themselves to become disabled by cutting a leg or foot off. As someone who became disabled after being attacked by a stalker, It really messed with my head that people would want to damage themself that way by choice. I have given up trying to understand why anyone does something so un reversible and damaging. It's a really messed up version of "the grass is always greener on the other side". I weep for the future and what is happening in the world.

@marleyhill34

2 ай бұрын

It's because we are repressed and in some cases had previous trauma. We have minimal self-worth so we do what makes us feel good now. I've been alone and unsupported all of my life and forced into traumatising circumstances that I have no control over from childhood. These extreme behaviours are my way of taking back some sort of control. When you are surrounded by kind and supportive people, your mind builds that you have value. My brain never developed to the point of seeing that I have value. I don't have a family or career so I don't see much value in my life.

@chrisbeaumont4630

Ай бұрын

I really can't fathom how these obsessions form. I see how chasing desires can lead to wanting more and more excess, never feeling completely satisfied and needing to do more extreme things to get the sensation you're chasing. However things like fixating on wanting a limb amputated out of the blue just baffles me, though. I can only think it's more of a mental disorder than thrill seeking addictive behaviour, some obsessive disorder similar to OCD. Stalkers terrify me too, especially after seeing how common it really is first hand and how previously normal people can go down that road and seem to become utterly psychotic. I'm so sorry to hear you were attacked by a stalker, I'm glad you survived it, and I sincerely hope they can never be able to harm you again.

Sadly it’s not surprising this is the thing with sex and porn addiction after a while you need something more taboo/depraved to get you off. Same how a lot of people who admit to child porn got there from porn addiction

@marleyhill34

2 ай бұрын

As someone who has been suicidal since I was 8 years old, I'm not surprised that these men want to die.

@user-oi8jo3dn6u

Ай бұрын

@@marleyhill34Jesus loves you

@1stBowman

Ай бұрын

@@user-oi8jo3dn6u Finally. Very few comments like yours. Yes He loves us all and his heart weeps at the Godlessness, pride, selfishness, and arrogance of his children. I believe we are getting very close to the end.

@1stBowman

Ай бұрын

@@marleyhill34 Please keep fighting. Life is precious and you are precious.

@pregerzoreo4886

20 күн бұрын

Porn addiction doesnt lead to that shit

My late great uncle unfortunately succumbed to HIV/AIDS circa '89 (way before any of the current treatments) this just breaks my heart...

Really superb documentary. Thank you.

I was shaking and now pretty much hearthbroken sobbing. When he said "I dont want you to die" to the chaser...

@Seventh7Art

2 ай бұрын

What about kids doing drugs that can kill them easily during an overdose? Junkies take a much higher risk. Not to mention alcoholics who sometimes die young due to intoxication or liver disease.... As for HIV, current meds can prevent the virus from decreasing life expectancy, up to 100%. Unlike drugs and alcohol that can cause death if overdosed, within minutes, not even hours later.... Junkies and alcoholics disgust me much more than those hiv fetishists because their behaviour is much more accepted than so called "bug chasing". Alcohol and drug chasers are more ill from a mental point of view, in my opinion. Those who willingly kill themselves with drugs and alcohol and smoking are multiple times more than those who die from aids. That is the harsh truth. HIV chasing may seem more perverse than drug, alcohol or smoking (ab)use, but in reality, HIV is far less lethal than those disgusting practices that cause cancer or even quick death by overdose (intoxication, poisoning, aggressive cancer etc.).

@SolutionsWithin

2 ай бұрын

I’ve studied about psychopathy for years and dealt with one for much of my life, so I can identify them quickly (psychopaths or sociopaths). Both the gifter and the guy looking to get it who were interviewed here show clear indications of psychopathy. Psychopaths don’t care if you don’t want them to die or if you sob for them. The sooner you learn about that the less likely for you to be entangled by a psychopath. They don’t have love, remorse, fear, joy, empathy, or care really. I think they should be respected for their role in our society rather than vilified, but everyone should be aware of what they are dealing with when dealing with a psychopath. That said, something this doc maker left out of this film that he must have done on purpose is that if a psychopath has an infectious disease and feels jilted by his community, which they almost always do, then there is probably a very real possibility they want to use that infectious disease to purposely infect the unsuspecting.

I have a friend who diagnosed with having HIV decades ago. He keeps up his medication and is doing great! He would be absolutely appalled by those men would wish to give and those men who wish to receive the virus. As for that man who likened having HIV to having the flu and finds this whole situation amusing...I am stunned beyond words!

Thank you for this intense yet deeply interesting documentary. I might not agree with what these people are saying, yet I do greatly admire them being fully honest about what it is they’re doing and coming on this documentary. May we all truly find love deep in our hearts, for ourselves and for one another ❤

BEYOND SHOCKED!!

What duuurty, filthy wronguns these are. The levels of filth and vile human behaviour knows no bounds in the current climate. To have no shame in appearing on a documentary and admit freely and almost revel in telling the interviewer he threw his uncooked sausage in some other plumbers wavin pipe, and then come back to kick the husband's back door in and give him a salmonella sausage with tin tin the plumber watching on is vomit inducing.

@astroboirap

2 ай бұрын

hahahhaha

@voiletwhitehorse

2 ай бұрын

Great comment 👍 there deprived of all moral compass

@nuriben7910

2 ай бұрын

You made it fucking worth it just then

@johnshevlin8032

2 ай бұрын

Oh man fuckin brilliant. Mate. Well what the fck is happening here. Fckn stop the world I want to get off. I'm fckn raging

@anthonyclarke4016

2 ай бұрын

@@voiletwhitehorse imagine the pillow talk lolol

As difficult & disturbing as this was, it was something I never knew existed. I've learnt something - again, highly disturbing - but yet another facet of human existence. Thank you for doing this documentary; it was obviously difficult for you too.

Very interesting, thank you.

Imagine accidently strolling into the wooded area with the "fck tree" while out with your kids.

@jaijai5250

2 ай бұрын

My adult daughter and I sadly did that. We couldn’t understand why we were the only women in the park. It was solely occupied by men, and this was during the day. No dog walkers, children or elderly couples. My daughter googled the park, and we found out what they were doing there 🤢🤮

@michaeldoldron8444

2 ай бұрын

​@@jaijai5250Anywhere you go in life in any particular forest or wooded area it is a sentiment that there's going to be gay cruising most likely around because it's free. It's an atmosphere where's not much activity. And it's vibrating for the gay culture of men to explore their sexuality in public. Explicitly to the unknown. It's a common reality in urban and suburban settings. Nothing really knew about it.

@spookshow6999

2 ай бұрын

It's disgusting.

@michaeldoldron8444

2 ай бұрын

@@spookshow6999 Yes it can be awfully raw to see that public nudity taking place. But outdoors are common places of public behavior in spaces of such lewdness activities especially for gay men worldwide circles.

@jaijai5250

2 ай бұрын

@@michaeldoldron8444 it may be new to some of us, especially if our minds don’t resonate on that level, or those activities. Do you know all the activities and behaviours that groups engage in, when you’re not remotely involved with those groups? Therefore why should I know about gay activities and behaviours? They still shouldn’t be able to commandeer entire public spaces. That area was a space that all the local children would’ve played, when I was a child in the 1970’s, I guarantee it. Sadly children can’t use those spaces now.

Wrongens

@marcusherts9345

2 ай бұрын

From butt chasing, to bug chasing..

@gimmemore9709

2 ай бұрын

My question is how does a 16yr old boy contract HIV? What was he doing and with who? Wrong on all levels.

@marcusherts9345

2 ай бұрын

@@gimmemore9709 rent boy sleeping with old men for money

@astroboirap

2 ай бұрын

it was in a church car park so he was probably sucking off the vicar @@gimmemore9709

@lukewhelan1269

2 ай бұрын

@@gimmemore9709 he took it up the bum off Jamel from the block.

This was a very mature documentary that handles the issue carefully and acknowledges how complex it truly is.

Great video dude

This took so much strength to make, well done Nathaniel ❤

What people may also wish to consider is as follows - To intentionally infect another with a communicable disease, be it wanted or not, would fall under the bracket of a section 18 wounding, under the offences against a person act 1861. It could come under a section 20 if done so unknowingly, but to knowingly infect another with HIV would find you being nicked under section 18 wounding with intent. This carries up to life in custody, with a starting point of around 7 to 9 years, although that exercise would be for the judge to decide upon. Culpability, aggravating factors, antecedents ect would determine the actual term of imprisonment, but for anyone considering this, know this, if you are caught, you will find yourself serving a significant term of imprisonment.

@ToriGee88

2 ай бұрын

Very few people press charges when maliciously infected, (the shock, denial, hurt and shame it hard to deal with) in fact, a lot of hospital staff do not inform someone who might have been infected with HIV with intent that it is criminal offence even more so very few people are aware that *genetic sequencing* that can find the exact people who infected them with HIV a lot of people think you cannot trace and track HIV infection to the person who gave it to them

@melanieah5501

Ай бұрын

Difficult to prove, like rape.

This was very well done.

The strangest sensation of seeing something about this on reddit over a decade ago and now being able to actually share a video about it rather than trying to remember what the screenshot said.

I am speechless Thank you for your work 🙏

It’s simply perverse! Nothing more! Humans are fucking animals.

@rozaucja8612

2 ай бұрын

Non-human animals are full of grace. Humanity is a virus. Don't offend non-human animals.

@cafeaulait69

2 ай бұрын

Animals do this?

@motauman1372

2 ай бұрын

Not me

@Kayyyzer

2 ай бұрын

*MEN

@tfkdandsvkc

2 ай бұрын

Men* get it right