Thanks for the video. Would be great to see a trail review. In particular I'm interested in hearing about any vertical compliance. The narrow 24.5mm profile lends itself to some compliance but it ultimately comes down to the layup. Looking forward to seeing more videos.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Will do once I have some miles on them but remember the only difference between these and the PR version is the hubs so I expect them to be good 👍

You can add Chris king oil in the rear hub and it will make it silence. Forgot, wow the price!

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Nice, good to know!

Thx for the awesome vid!!!Nice looking Wheels,I think there are a little bit to loud for me,they seem louder then my dt swiss 350's with 54 t ratchets but I like the 60t ratchets that they come with just not the volume.Cheers!!

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

They are indeed a bit louder somehow! Hope all is great Glenn

thanks, got the PRO 36 (pro hubs) on your recommendation last year (thanks for code). love them. little squirelly laterally ( I weigh a lot and am pushing the 275lb max total weight, and, Specialized Ground Control tires, so, could be that),. Wondering if these gnar version will be a little better laterally, look forward to your experience after getting some miles on the gnar. Long time subscriber, first time poster 🙂. Great channel, thanks for the hard work.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Great to hear! They are a bit stiffer laterally, 3.5 vs 2.8 mm offset rims. But wonder if what you're seeing is tire squirm...try a bit higher pressure in the back or install the tire with an insert and see how you like it? Happy trails!

I have a set of the Pro 33s on my light trail bike. They are amazing wheels. Super light weight. The bike is snappy and climbs like a goat. Elitewheels is even very good with their warranty. Can't go wrong with them. Glad they are showing the world that quality can come a lower costs. Those delivery times though.....you'll be waiting a while.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Still worth the wait?😊

@paulthompson6357

Ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB ABSOLUTELY!

I bought the gnar trail pr a month or so ago using your code (thanks), couldn't be happier with the wheels. They're on a banshee paradox, replacing some good but relatively heavy spank 350 wheels. Great value for a solid, lightweight wheelset.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Glad you like them! And thanks for sharing your experience

@mikeburgh3956

Ай бұрын

I love my Spank 350s. But would love to try carbon

What can you tell us about the Frequency hub on the PR wheels? I currently only have custom built carbon wheels because I like to choose the hubs,rims and spokes. One set has Stan’s Baron CB7 carbon rims with ONYX Classic hubs and the other is for my gravel and is Zipp XPLR 101 carbon rims with Chris King hubs. Going custom is more than double $$ the “complete” price but it’s also either building something yourself or working with a good wheel builder to have a wheel that is built up to fit your needs.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Similar to I9 8 pawls. Have all the details in the video review linked in the description

In your NOBL TR32/TR35 video from a year or so ago you went for North American wheels for the warranty and said you were done with Chinese brands (showing several broken rims). Did something change your mind so that you are now comfortable with Elitewheels which I believe is a Chinese brand? The pricing on Elitewheels is excellent and if reliability is similar to NOBL or other big brands would be a great deal.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

You're correct, I just came across those broken carbon rims the other day. Truth is that at the time I was going for cheap and light rims, which you could say is a no-no. And I agree, paid the price😊 For ELITE I even have a long term here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/aI2qsa2lZsTIacY.html They've served me well, or very well so far. Same for the NOBL wheels that we still use. As for pricing, wait until the 12th I might have an extra promo on MTB wheels

Went with branded reserve wheels the first time and they weren't anything special. Next time round i'd just go for these..

Really wondering, if in their lineup the 27.5 Pro28 wheelset would be a nice option for my kids bike, that actually has a 2.1kg heavy wheelset from the factory on his full suspension Canyon. He only weighs around 35kg, should be good for some light trails to bring down the total pretty hefty weight of the bike.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

I woul dpersonally go for the PRO35, that 28 mm ID rim. PRO28 uses a rim that's too narrow for my taste/ 2024

I recall on one of your carbon wheel reviews you mentioned that they were not very compliant and might feel harsh. Please let us know how these feel.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Will do once we have some miles on that. Given my experience with the Gnar PR I expect them to be good, same rims and spokes used here.

I ordered the Pro36 before this video came out. I think the Pro36 is stronger enough for my down country riding. I done business with them on Ebay before they became Elite wheels. I just emailed them to see if they could send me an extra 60 teeth ratchet with my order. I did used your 15% discount code. thank you.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Let us know how you like them!

I see the advantage of carbon wheels, but where i live there is alot of flint rocks on the trails, they'd last 2 months max before a lump of sharp flint pinged up, hit the inside surface and destroyed them, even alloy rims suffer around here

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Wow that’s rough! Do you use inserts for that reason?

@user-tb7rb6lt3d

Ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB no, but i do have to carry tyre patches, sidewalls don't last less well at all, i think inserts aren't really meritted here, it's mainly flint kicking up and striking the rim is the major issue, they used to make arrow heads out of flint for a good reason, great videos as per usual, i used to be john brown on KZread but i changed my phone and can't remember the password for that account 🤣, I'm the xtr spd seal guy who chimed in to help out

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

@@user-tb7rb6lt3d thanks for adding to the community!

@user-tb7rb6lt3d

Ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB no worries, thanks for the great videos and reviews

How do the EliteWheels Gnar Trail carbon rims compare to the NOBL TR35s you reviewed last year? Any noticeable difference in ride quality or durability? I am looking at buying a new wheelset currently and debating between the NOBL TR37 with either an i9 1/1 hub or a Project 321 hub ($1,060/$1,200 respectively after 20% off), or going with the Gnar Trail PR (~$800 with your discount code). The EliteWheels Gnar Trail PR wheelset is about 100g lighter and 3-4 hundred less, but only has a 3 year warranty vs lifetime for the NOBL wheels.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

I would say it really comes down to your last couple of words above- lifetime vs 3 year warranty. Feel is similar if not the same, great options both

@baumgaft3107

9 күн бұрын

Pulled the trigger on the gnar trail PR today - used your code which was a better price than their summer sale.

Do you think these wheels would be strong enough for rowdy trail riding to light enduro riding?

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

I would say 100%

I still haven't had any issues with the aftermarket 60t ratchets 😊 On my trifox roadbike I have built a new set with the goldix R160sl dt inspired ratchet hubs and they have a 72t engagement ratchet! We're getting closer 😂

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

😊

What is required to change the standard 36T ratchet to a DT Swiss with more POE? You mentioned a DT Swiss tube insert was needed over the axle in a previous video?

@LoveMTB

16 күн бұрын

Yeah the DT system is a bit different but I'm pretty sure you can keep the red axle spacer from ELITE installed and replace everything else with the 2 springs and ratchets from DT. Or get the ELITE 60T rathcet that I mentioned in this video and call it a day

@rioblast

16 күн бұрын

@@LoveMTB I’ll try to get hold of ELITE’s 60T. They haven’t responded to my enquiries yet. Great job with your videos by the way 👌

@LoveMTB

16 күн бұрын

@@rioblast Glad to help

@rioblast

12 күн бұрын

@@LoveMTB They don't seem very interested in providing the ratchet you mentioned. Tried contacting them twice without answer. Do you have any contacts there to pass on my request?

@LoveMTB

10 күн бұрын

@@rioblast Hmm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately I don't have a backdoor to their people, just regular channels like you

I’ve gad the original Gnar Trail on my ebike for the last 8 months and they have been fantastic. They haven’t had a single issue and several have commented on how nice they look. Only potential negative is the 320 poe hubs are very loud but work well.

@MTB_CRZY

Ай бұрын

you can always take the hub driver off and add extra grease to quite the rear hub down a bit :)

@eXTreemator

Ай бұрын

They don't work well at all. Small version like this one

Has anyone used their warranty? How is the process? I can’t imagine being it fast. Would we have to ship the wheels to China? How much is that going to cost?

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

I would reach out to them with questions in my experience they’re pretty quick to respond

Is there an option to get them with silent freehub? Don't like the noise at all...

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Ratchets are what ratchets are. Quietest one is the default 36t ratchet

@user-tb7rb6lt3d

Ай бұрын

I'm with you, silent hubs are great, onyx hubs or a pair of 11 speed shimano hubs with a slightly overpacked freehub are the only way, i did look at foss hubs but they are crazy expensive

@seawalkarrg

Ай бұрын

I though you can use extra grease to quiet them down

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

@@seawalkarrg yes to an extend but too much grease and you clog them down

@seawalkarrg

Ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB makes sense. You’re in Quebec, no? Visited Saguenay last summer. So beautiful

Will they sell mullet wheelsets?

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

I think No As far as I know

Without looking carefully into it I assumed they were 36 internal width 😅 lol

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

They come w 36T by default, 60T is an upgrade

No lifetime warranty? Just 3 years?

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

For the price...

What's the difference between elite wheels and the elite wheels on ali express?

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

I don't know to be honest. Can be shady source? Don't know

@TheBIKEDEALZ

Ай бұрын

Made a Hebrew video on it. It’s identical apart from lower level spokes, no tape and valve from the get go. I touched base with their support and sales and open a nice marketing and support channel for the Israeli riders. There is a claim that the rim is a bit heavier.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

@@TheBIKEDEALZ good to know thanks for sharing. So as with most stuff on Ali it is either fake or lower quality of the original

@rrolleman4879

Ай бұрын

@@TheBIKEDEALZ I picked up a set of Ali Elites. Same Sapim spokes, but wider IW than the pro's and therefore heavier (mine are 33mm IW). This also makes them stiffer. They've been bomb proof.

@TheBIKEDEALZ

Ай бұрын

@@rrolleman4879 yep. As I said it’s identical

Do you know if their website is in USD or CAD $. Thanks

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

It's definitely USD

@garysmith643

Ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB thanks

so they copied alpha rim design for spoke nipples extra layering... for much better durability ..

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

I don't know about copied but that design is that you increase the durrability of the rim without adding the unnecessary weight.

@fewkilometersaday

Ай бұрын

@@LoveMTB Yes i am talking about that design only... Alpha rims introduced them before elitewheels.. dont knw if its their patented or something or not .. but yeah if its for everyone use then elitewheels doing great job here by providing it in half price of what aplha bikes provides. ..

@eXTreemator

Ай бұрын

What's the point in this anyway aside the look? Washers still have to be used with carbon. Did anyone had failures before without it and with strong washers?

Hookless? No thanks. Great video as always though 😊

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

😁

@doncrescas

Ай бұрын

From everything I've read hookless is not an issue on low pressure mtb wheels. Only on High pressure road wheels.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

@@doncrescas indeed hoockless has never been an issue for MTB, we use under or just around 20 psi!

@kjwagoner

Ай бұрын

Do they even make hooked Mtb wheels?

How much grams do you think I could save vs stock specialized alloy wheels on a stumpjumper. Thx.

@LoveMTB

Ай бұрын

Probably more than 500g, those are sooo heavy

Nobody doesn't even builds a custom wheel even price is the same. Just more commercials for chinese copies. Sure this one seems like stonger version of their wheels, but most of their elite wheel suck. If people would order a custom they would have been better off in most cases. But it got to be on the point that money just goes default to china

@gunshipanropace2gunshipand119

Ай бұрын

I think this depends on peoples choices like if they want a wheelset upgrade why not start out on the cheap stuff so you dont make a mistake buying the more expensive offers out there and end up not liking it. No bike/parts are perfect. One more is great example ENVE, if its a great product why not more people order them instead of others out there. Simple its not for Everybody