James just a suggestion, but get Foxy to do the same test just to see if a high handicapper would perform any better with expensive clubs.

@JamesRobinsonGolf

2 жыл бұрын

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another great comparison, I would certainly buy the Costco clubs based on what you have shown. When I bought a set, trying to get more serious with my golf, I tried a ton of 6 irons. The guy selling them was of the same mindset as you....... he made sure I didn't know what brand I was hitting, as I said "I like the feel of this one" he would put it aside and on we would go until we had exhausted the complete range. At the end of the day I had selected 3 clubs that I liked, I could not separate them. I ended up buying a full set of PowerBilt clubs. These were supposed to be to get me going. I am still using them 10 years later and still love them. Saved myself a stack of money, needles to say I continue to support the company where I bought the clubs, they could have taken me for lots more as I didn't know any different, honest salesman (not too many about)

maybe on these vids, put an indicator for where the flag is, good vid though

Love the budget videos....I am still playing my wilson set from 2007 but I think I have the confidence to build my own bag next summer and I am really leaning toward going with graphite shafts. The cobra set is still in play just because the price is just so good. I will probably also consider putting new grips on anything I get....Good stuff.

Excellent presentation thank you for your time posting this content.

What a video. Great golf, great banter, and some comedy mixed in. "I felt like Mary Poppins".🤣

Love this video. As a new golfer just starting out this year with a set from a yard sale this video helps me with deciding on as you call it a budget set or if I need to save for another year or more and buy a high end set of clubs. Thanks for the video and keep up the great work. 👍

10:06 The distance difference is likely due to the loft on the Cobra LTDx being stronger which is to be expected. It did not show up in results on the course.

I’m an 18 h’cap and my distance control is such that a 10 yard difference in carry is not something that would worry me. I doubt it would be a serious consideration for a newer golfer. There is always the option to club up? Good, informative video which clearly showed that any difference in performance is not necessarily the result of high tec expensive clubs but more in the skill of the player. Money saved on clubs could be used on lessons which should lead to better skill levels.

Well done James. Love your shows!

I really liked this! You got to it, didn't over explain things like some others do and played like a pro. Thank you.

Replaced my cobra F-Max irons with LTDx and am finding plus 20 yards at the top end and plus 10 at the bottom (GW), to be expected with stronger lofts. I think the benefit comes in the forgiveness, or at least that’s my experience so far. Less distance drop off from bad hits, and as a high handicapper I get plenty of those!

Great content. More food for thought as it pertains to budget options.

The only package set I played as a beginner had alloy irons. As I got better and swing speed went up, I started breaking the iron faces. Seems like these modern pkg sets have stainless steel irons, so anyone should be fine playing them 🤙

Thanks for another great video!!

I purchased the Costco Callaway Edge Set and for me they are perfect as these would be. I only play for the enjoyment to try and stay active, sneak 9 holes in after working in the office or with friends for a social day on the weekend. It allows me to have a good quality set of clubs that play well without spending a fortune. The only thing I "may" upgrade one day if I find myself wanting to play a bit more is I might upgrade a driver. It is great that Costco are getting into golf and making it more accessible to everyone. Great video loved it

@JDDD33

Жыл бұрын

Hey Craig, any reason you went the Edge over the Cobra XLs ? I'm undecided over the two sets

Great video James. Honestly think you could hit it round with a spade though. Would love to see if foxy noticed a difference between them.

It is great that companies now are looking into putting together quality affordable sets. I give lots of lessons to new to golf players and the sets that some are using don't help there enjoyment or improvement. The package sets do at times get bad press, but I think they are a good way to get going.

Great video. Always keep a cheaper version in mind when buying clubs. Just wondering though if the more expensive set is more forgiving for an average golfer allowing for better play? A really good golfer can make shots with just about any club I would bet. I once knew someone who was such a good pool player, he could beat anyone with a broom handle!

I want an 8 iron to stop quickly on the green, so the extra loft and spin would make the costco club a far better option for me. More loft on your standard iron set also stops you having to buy so many expensive wedges to fill gaps in your distances

Morning from Bama! As a high handicapper, novice golfer myself, I wish those irons had come out just a few months sooner and I would've bought the Costco Cobras! That Kirkland ball was showing off its green stopping power on the Par3s yesterday on the course! Cant go wrong with anything Kirkland golf.

@tylerpalmer8973

2 жыл бұрын

I've made the choice of switching over to the Kirkland balls for the rest of the season. I was going to play ProV1s this season, but having had a horrible first round on our local links course, I lost a bunch in the deep grass. My wallet will thank me, haha!

I am a huge Cobra guy, been my clubs since day one. I like that a package set is now out there. I think the big one for me would be wedge play around the green, and then how the putter feels and rolls the ball. A good short game comparison would be the big selling point.

Really enjoy the budget videos. Did you notice much difference in distance control between the two sets? I play a budget game improvement set and occasionally get those jumpers that I can’t control

For someone just starting out, the speed set would be an excellent value

Thanks for the info! Makes me realize my G30’s are just great!

whew, thx james , and to think i just about bought the blueprints, thx to your vid ill stick with my stratas

I'm still playing my F6 cobras so guess they are the same as the XL speeds. Still love my clubs 😃

Love the "budget" /value videos. Have you ever thought to look at the PXG 0211 range. They're down to £65 a club now and the drivers only £199. Would be good to see if they're worth a try

This is your 1st iron comparison video while wearing your new shiny ✨ wedding ring! Congrats again and best wishes. I am basically a rookie golfer; started last year. I bought a starter set of Top Flight clubs at Dick’s. I am very interested in upgrading to a premium set, but wouldn’t want to spend the money on another set I was NOT fitted for. If it was my 1st set, then yes, I would jump at the opportunity to get the Costco Cobras. But I really want to play this year to figure out how to hit the ball better, then get a fitting for all my clubs. Am I on the right track?

This is the classic intersection of the business of golf and the game of golf. Lower prices to attract newer players, then higher prices to promise improvement. 60 years ago a set of beginner irons were 3, 5, 7, 9. Woods 1, 3. Over time, wedge(s), more woods, steel, titanium, carbon, etc. plus tv. Now it’s big box marketing added in. Progress.

For me being a beginner, I care most about knowing my own distances with the clubs I’m using. I don’t care if I hit my 7 iron as far as my buddies or pros, but I want to know when I have a distance to carry, will it do it. With that mindset, extra yardages doesn’t matter to me, performance (dispersion), feel, and cost matters. If the budget option checks those boxes… that means I have a lot of extra money to spend to play rounds of golf at the course!

Great video !! Cobra XL or Callaway Edge (from costco) ?

I am a proud owner of LTDx irons, and I can definitely confirm how strongly lofted they are. In essence the irons are one whole club stronger than traditional lofts. When you hit them, they launch hard. The budget irons have a more soft launch, and yes, my wallet would not mind the XL clubs. The key thing that I have learned over the last few months is the golf ball that pairs with my clubs needs to have very specific characteristics - the Tour Response has become that ball because it matches up very nicely in terms of flighting.

In the end all you really need to know is the distance you hit them. If the set is gapped enough to suit your game it is totally worth the $. Idk if the hybrid and woods would be as close but as irons go they are good looking and perform.

Great vid

I got the XL package here in Canada for a steal (not from Costco, ours haven't got clubs at the moment). Taking them out for the first round today!

Are the 8 irons lofted the same? I wonder if the more expensive set has more aggressive lofting? That would help explain the difference in carry.

My step-son is slowly building up his Cobra bag (just getting the Radspeed XB driver, 3-wood, 5-wood), and wants the XL Speeds (to replace his Taylor-Made R7 RCB Max irons), but they haven't shown up at any US Costco to my knowledge (it's a pain just trying to find the Callaway Edge sets at Costco in the US).

Was infront of you today on the course and i use the cobra xls, very much a beginner but still made 101

James may i ask if you have tried the Wilson D9 forged, i thinking of getting and set, or some of the power bats that Chris the crim is using. just wondering

Well done James 👏

Next to the ketchup paper 😂😂

Lofts are 31 for the LTD X and 35 for the xl speed. I would take the cheaper clubs all day long.

What are the loft angles on the 8 irons? Do the xl speed have greater loft? Should be around 35 degrees from memory.

awesome video, equipment is not the be all/end all of golf!!! would be intriguing to see an average or begining golfer do the same test

As a senior golfer, my mizuno forged irons were bought 2007. So I needed some modern technology to regain my distances. These LTDx clubs have lots of weight in the sole. therefore if loft not strengthened, the ball would effectively go too high and not far enough. I tried many irons using trackman. The LTDx's gave me best consistant loft, spin, forgiveness and distance performance. These along with the stealth 22deg hybrid and Wilson D9 driver (no I wouldn't have gone for Wilson but trackman and physical results...) at my age will be my forever clubs. You can show me many different irons much cheaper. But go get properly fitted and you may be surprised at results, in comparison to what brand of clubs you want. I wanted Srixon ZX5's,or Mizuno JPX 921. But when I hit them I could not generate spin or loft so distance not great. same with Stealth and ping irons. Am I happy with all my purchases.....You bet! As a starter set these Costco look to be a good deal. See people buying cheap (not these) sets and they are awful. Result being person believes they will never get good and chuck them in the garage. Sorry!! Waffled a bit 😁😁😁

@Stephno86

2 жыл бұрын

But!..theres 1 iron you didnt try according to your list..the p790!..expensive clubs but my god there worth it :)

Just bought set of cobra Ltdx from a PGA golf fitting. 6 to PW.

I think 10 yard difference on an 8 iron is significant and would mean if you can afford the premium club it’s worth it . but for new players or those on a budget to Cosco clubs look like a great option.

Hey have you checked out the ask echo silencer t-lock 2.0 golf bag I’d really like your opinion

Imo the best budget set is actually PXG. You can get the same set up with the 0211 pxg(and a cosco putter) for 330 more. Yes that's decent bit more but the woods and hybrid are way better you have some options on grips and shafts and for an extra $50 you can get custom fitting

@brianwaldo2642

2 жыл бұрын

Ageed. I picked up a set of 0211 DC’s, 6 - GW for CAD$95 each. They have been great so far and at my advanced age (68), the stronger lofts have helped with distance gain. Golf is fun again.

@scottgibbs7235

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianwaldo2642 I have the gen 2 0311 and love them. My only complaint with them is they dont offer a better players driver with a flatter starting loft or weight adjustment on the toe side. I am a rare mid handicap that's miss is a hook.

'Guys' count at an impressive 23,more than 2 per minute.That output is up there with any trendy teacher or outdoor activities coordinator. Well done ✔️

Very impressive spin numbers from the Costco Cobra irons, I would take spin over distance

I'm not a good enough player to reliably get the 10 extra yards out of those premium irons, and it probably wouldn't matter if I did. So for me the clear winner would be the XL Speed set. I was actually in the market for a new set this year and for some reason Costco did not have a set available. So I ended up ordering a MacGregor DCT3000 set which gave me more clubs for less money than even the Cobra set. I've just unboxed them and initial impressions of quality, fit and finish and overall value are very positive. I'll take them down to the range and compare them against my ancient rustbucket Powerbilt Fuzzy Zoeller set (yes, they are that old) and see how we get on.

Would be interesting if you did the comparison with a higher handicap player. Great show

Even a budget set can play well if you come close and hit sweet spot or near it. Most higher handicappers can't do that so most of them need larger sweet easier to hit in the air and low budget clubs are not easy to hit, so if you are good golfer it doesn't matter.

Random question James, I love these videos, but do you ever feel like your ball striking and game is a bit off when you go back to your normal clubs after testing all the budget / lighter / high handicap clubs? I used a different set to my usual set the other week and it felt like I'd never played Golf before. Went back to my normal set the following round and my ball striking was so off it was actually embarrassing.

@JamesRobinsonGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Yea mate all the time! 😂

Those xls look like my one length fmax's to the t. Maybe try and get your gand on the cobra fmax irons, fairway and possibly driver...I'd like to see that review. I've been thinking of upgrading mine to the rad speed s or even the speedzones but I don't think I'd have much difference. Maybe more distance.

Nice looking clubs

2 late! I already took out a second mortgage on my house, wife, and kids to buy a new set of taylormade irons, tsi driver, 3 wood and hybrid with a scotty cameron putter!!! 5 grand on clubs with mgi electric trolly!!!!!! Why didnt you make this video last year @jamesRobinson????? 😆 🤣

How about the Aerojet vs LTDX irons? Thanks

My irons are really old. I have a feeling that there's a lot more tech even in the cheaper set than what I'm currently playing. I replaced the driver this year with the LTDx LS and may change out the irons next season. I am leaning a bit towards something like the Takomo or another direct to consumer brand.

@xxx489Rockstar984xxx

2 жыл бұрын

If possible, check out the ben hogan irons. The ptx pro and edge ex are great irons 👍. They are direct to consumer also.

@tylerpalmer8973

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxx489Rockstar984xxx, thanks for the tip! I'll take a look!

Is there a difference in the lofts of the 8 irons?

As i have said before, golf is about consistency. You can't change clubs and balls all the time. Pick equipment and learn to play with it. Whats better? When you stand over it, you know where its going, how far, and what you need to do with it to score.

I've actually been playing the budget irons for like 2 years and love them have upgraded woods etc but honestly wouldn't upgrade the irons at all

I am not sure if you would call them "budget" irons but I play a set of Callaway Steel Head irons, and the Cobra set from Costco that you just played look better and sound better in my opinion. I do not play a lot, maybe a dozen rounds a year so I really have no need for an "expensive" set of clubs. Love your budget golf videos James.

@JamesRobinsonGolf

2 жыл бұрын

They’re more than half the price of the premium ones so IMO they are but get your point 👍🏼

LTDX being a game improvement club you would need foxey to test them. James you could hit a blade and still make them look the same

Toilet roll the ketchup paper 🤣

If the performance and gapping (12 yards per iron) was consistent across all the XL Speed irons, yes I would take them over the LTDx with price difference

Interesting I have the Cobra F-Max (Blue Inset) compare my clubs to both of those

Both seem like they would be good in the bag !!!need em lol!!!

JAMES!!..why didnt you try the cosco driver,wood,and hybrid :(

If you're a decent golfer hitting it out the middle 9 times out of 10 then it makes very little difference what clubs you use. I'd imagine the LTDx will be a bit more forgiving than the cheap set and give more ball speed on off hits.

James - what exactly is Ketchup paper? On a more golf related theme, would it not be better to compare these expensive and budget clubs in the hands of a less proficient golfer, who would hit the sweet spot less often and therefore benefit from some of the forgiveness with the newer technology.

Check out sporting stores on occasion you can find new old stock. I payed 200 for my set of cobra f7 irons

The only issue I would have with the budget set is I need a senior shaft

Interesting review but would it not be better having Foxy compare them as they are both designed for a high handicap golfer, not a Pro like your good self. What are they like if you hit them out of the toe or heel?? How forgiving are they???

Same lofts for each set?

Im also thinking you shot this video prior to your wedlock with Laura bc I I dont see a ring.....but I am curious if you're going to get used to a real ring, get a silicone one, or play without. Do tell.

@JamesRobinsonGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Lol yes it was! And I’m gonna stick With it I think

We know that PremiungolfBrands could all come up with 300 euros clubs that would be good enough! I know at least!👊💥

If the More expensive set was a stronger loft the distance comparison wouldn't really be valid would it? Isn't it about gapping except for your premium players?

James, you said that the LTD’s were ten yards longer then the Costco Cobra’s, did you happen to compare the lofts to each other?

A good golfer can hit anything Would like to see Foxy do the comparison even if its just inside!

What Costco do you frequent? Our local Vegas Costco is lucky to have balls and gloves and a few bags. I guess we don't play enough golf here to warrant stocking the Cobras. I'd buy them if they were to suddenly show up on the shelf.

James, it’s best to do these test with 10+ handicappers. You’re like a scratch to 4. The best tech are actually lessons and practice.

I think the studio numbers are a bit irrelevant James for a beginner. Not sure they are going to get anything like the distances you do, (I can't, but I am 71👴🏻) so if the strike feels good if say that a beginner should consider starting with the cheaper set.

I've noticed that in the recent club (and ball) "tests" that you don't show swing speed. Could there be an (unconscious) bias for one or the other clubs (or balls)?

@JamesRobinsonGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Not at all. Often I don’t even realise what clubs I have in my hsnd

What's ketchup paper? Never seen that in costco! 😆

Tbh I prefer the look of the xl over the ltdx

1400 more revs with the Costco iron? Means more stopping power which was the biggest problem I had with Cobra Speedzone irons. Always hitting off the greens.

I wud love them clubs sir to replace my slazenger from sports direct

I was going to get some for my son .. but Costco website says they’re not selling them anymore

The Costco Callaway Edge set was truly worth it for a budget set. Mostly, because it was a re-issue of the X2Hot that was an older Callaway premium club issue and one of their most successful irons released (same with the Odyssey putter in that set). I am not sure about the driver and woods, but they are also excellent (and possibly similar to the X2Hot). I don't know the Cobra set, but there is a sports store version in Canada at the moment that has even more than the Costo version - Driver, 3W, 3H and 4H and 5-PW and includes a premium Cobra cart bag for about 750$CND, which in Canada means the whole set is 100$ more than JUST the LTDx driver (which is 650$), 50$ more expensive than a Rogue driver (which is 700$) and the same price as the Stealth Driver! So yes, likely definitely worth it. Add a set of Costco wedges to the sports store version and for about 900$CND plus tax you have a complete 14 club set with bag! I am curious to see the Takomo options for the driver as their irons with a good driver would be the only other budget option to consider...

@JDDD33

Жыл бұрын

Hey, good comment !! You sem to know your info !! Would you take the callaway Edge set over the Cobra XL set (both from costco) ?

@christianvachon2235

Жыл бұрын

@@JDDD33 If I had to pick between the Callaway Edge at Costco and the Cobra XL, I would personally go for the Edge. The reason is that with the Edge you are getting a re-issue of older model top-tier clubs, whereas the Cobra is more entry level. The shafts are better in the Callaway. And the big difference it the putter which is a true, again re-issue of an older top model Odyssey putter, with White Hot face and a proper Super Stroke Grip.The putter in the Cobra is the weak link. Hope that answers your question... Cheers!

@JDDD33

Жыл бұрын

@@christianvachon2235 thankyou for your comprehensive reply. Much appreciated

@christianvachon2235

Жыл бұрын

@@JDDD33 Thank you for the very kind words, comment/post, and you're welcome! Much appreciated also. Glad to hear that was helpful. Cheers and have a wonderful day!

At the end of the day it does not matter one bit if you have the most expensive clubs ever created…… if you don’t put a proper swing on it….you don’t get the result.

Can Anyone suggest a good set of irons and drivers budget is $1500

Unless you're a tour pro I really don't think it matters

The studio numbers are significantly different as the XL Speed 8 iron is 35 degrees v 31 degrees in the LTDx, that's effectively a whole club different. I think this should've been highlighted further not just glossed over as the bare numbers without any context implies that the cheaper club, has less technology and doesn't perform as well as the expensive club so you get what you pay for, where, in fact, the 9 yards difference in carry distance and less spin is most probably down to the 4 degree loft difference. Based on the fact that the XL Speed set is significantly cheaper, performed better on the course & differences in the studio are solely down to different lofts - the XL Speed set is a steal for any beginner golfer or anyone wanting to replace a set of 'hand downs'.

@scottdean27

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing the research on the lofts of the two irons. So, yes, you are completely correct, the 4 degrees of difference would equal about 8 yards of carry distance normally. Usually, the half inch of difference in club length between irons accounts for about 3 yards of difference. Those numbers are a little different depending on club-head speed of the golfer, of course. It would be best if testers focused on comparing irons of similar lofts, not whatever club number is put on the sole.

Costco numbers seemed better to me, better spin numbers

You advocate that you want to make golf accesible for ALL pockets (my interpretation of your claim). However, as in this review, you talk about Costco's buget irons costing £400. I hae asked if you would review beginner sets for less, which include full sets plus bag. There are such items for £239 up to £390. I have asked about the Prosimmon clubs in the past because that was my first full set of new clubs. I would still be using them if they had not been stolen. The point is that someone starting out in golf can get complete sets for a lot less than just a set of irons. Some of the clubs I have seen at these starting points are beter named clubs than Prosimmon and may well last the 'virgin' golfer for many years without them feeling the need to upgrade when they start to reduce their handicap.

For my level i'd play the Costco all day

I want to see foxy do this test. A pro is going to strike any iron well