The treatment of Dylan Mulvaney by Budlight after the conservative backlash is an excellent case study of the limits of corporate america's interest in the LGBT community. This is why it is so dangerous for lgbt events to become reliant on corporate engagement for success, like corporate sponsors for pride for example. As LGBTQ people, we must understand that these capitalist organziations are not interested in the outcome of our community but soley the rainbow dollar and becoming benefitiaries of the normalization of LGBT identies due the tireless advocacy of queer activist.

@gundamzerostrike

6 ай бұрын

Yep. We shouldn't rely on corporation (because all they care is money), but pressure to state to include LGBT discussion in the classroom. Most teachers already do that from time to time anyways, so just have a national policy to organize these kinds of theme (and others, such as racism) in schools.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Double yep. Target effed up too.

@sjuvanet

6 ай бұрын

corporations almost never have genuine interest in social issues unless they are financially incentivized. it's generally a bad idea to take social or political issues to consumer corporations

@atlasonhiskingshit

6 ай бұрын

Yes and the last thing we need to do is become a bunch of capitalistic homonationalists. That would only destroy us from the inside.

@emilyrln

6 ай бұрын

@@sjuvanetyup. Unfortunately, our government is increasingly beholden to moneyed interests…

Being trans isn't a political statement, and anyone who thinks otherwise should be treated as the threat to our existence that they are. Bud Light decided we were disposable, and I'm glad that they are still paying for that mistake. Let's do more of that in 2024!

@TheMentalj

6 ай бұрын

No such thing as trans

@davidpar2

6 ай бұрын

Ok groomer

@davidpar2

6 ай бұрын

Your right to your sense of “safety” ends where everyone else’s rights to the first amendment AND to human discernment begin, snowflake.

@kyleandathompson4700

6 ай бұрын

I view being transgender as like a religion keep it away from children. But you could teach them your viewpoints as long as it's not full of hate. let them decide when they're 14 when they are kids let them be kids. I also think that but light not sticking up for Dylan was wrong either you support transgenderism or you don't there is no halfway about it. I am a conservative I do not agree with transgenderism but you guys do exist and you should be allowed to

@OsirisMalkovich

6 ай бұрын

@kyleandathompson4700 no, because people can choose their religion. And what reason do you have for wanting to "keep it away from children?"

I started following Dylan right around the time she started Days of Girlhood. The craziest thing is that she was always the nicest, least controversial person on TikTok. To invoke such rage from such a person is insane.

@sabrinagranger5468

6 ай бұрын

I think that was a big part of why she was targeted so much. They wanted to make it clear that even the sweetest, most positive, most inoffensive, sunniest, most pleasant trans woman is unacceptable to them.

@echantllezpae7836

6 ай бұрын

Ikr :( she seems like such a sweetheart

@s13rr4buf3

6 ай бұрын

Dylan is mocking womanhood in a very obnoxious and honestly offensive way. Very shallow and insincere. Hyper, crazy, stupid, inappropriate. Boring and unfunny too. From where are you getting "her" merits?

@Hitman-316

5 ай бұрын

He

@goosewithagibus

5 ай бұрын

Hate will do that to a mf

The way people mistreat Dylan makes me so mad. Like, if you don’t love her content that’s fine, just don’t watch it. The way that people act like she murdered their children is so out of line. I’ve seen people exclusively use they/them pronouns for her, because they see they/them pronouns as a way to avoid using her pronouns while degrading her supposed “manhood”, it makes me sick. Plus her March Madness ad is hilarious, but people aren’t ready for that conversation

@BeesSides

6 ай бұрын

i don't remember who said this, but: "they/them is the silencer on the gun that is he/him."

@overgrownkudzu

6 ай бұрын

this sooo much. i came across her a couple times on tiktok, not my cup of tea content wise. so because i'm a normal person, i just swiped past it. that's literally all you have to do. after a while i stopped getting her recommended and that was it. she never hurt anyone and her content is super innocuous.

@pawpkitty

6 ай бұрын

I feel the same way. I don't particularly enjoy her content but how she was treated was awful. I was concerned for her safety for awhile.

@pooplord6688

6 ай бұрын

Dylan is cringe, her content is cringe, Bud Light is cringe, the boycott is cringe, conservatism is cringe, capitalism is cringe, I'm cringe, you're cringe, Matt Bernstein is based.

@MOTHHMAN

6 ай бұрын

@@pooplord6688 wrong dylan is not cringe

I remember back in 2008-2009 Bud Light made a huge marketing push to gay men and this same garbage happened. The only difference is we didn't have influencers the same way we do now, so it seems like the only thing they've learned since then is to make sure to they have someone to shirk all the backlash onto. Dylan didn't deserve any of this. I'm a trans woman myself, I'm very sick of my existence being treated like a political statement when I just want to live a boring life with my adorable one-eyed dog.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Ooooh I don't recall that at all, & I know I was following LGBTQ2s+ news back then. I'm ashamed to say that I don't remember that but thanks for the comment, I'll look it up for the sake of remembering history properly. Hey Stranger, thanks. Appreciate the knowledge. I hope 2024 is good to you + your Cyclopean Pooch & keeps you both safe + well.

omg i am french, and i really thought every bud light had her face on it (and i am on the good side of the internet !) this is crazy

@BorderOllie

6 ай бұрын

I'm American and honestly (albeit I'd not looked into it deeply) I thought that they must have been selling it somewhere.. It blows my mind how large this backlash has gotten considering how NOTHING AT ALL this was.. gah! 😭 Transphobes are wild..

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

There's another commenter from Denmark who says much the same & I commented under that I thought they were selling them too (I'm in Canada) & was shocked to discover it was 1 CAN.

I remember when Dylan first started her series and the majority of comments and content surrounding her were so wholesome and positive. It was so nice seeing a trans woman documenting her fun adventures exploring her identity. It’s so sad how much these bigoted gremlins have harassed her, and even in TikTok the search bar on the video almost always says “Dylan mulvaney creepy”. Her only “crime” was daring to exist and have fun while being a trans woman. She now only very occasionally posts and despite trying to be positive, it’s obvious this stuff is obviously getting to her

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

She's dealing with it way more gracefully than I would have. She didn't deserve any of this. I probably would've abandoned human society to live in a cave in the Northern Rockies. Dylan's so admirable & she deserves only good things forevermore. I'm really glad Matt decided 1) not to have Dylan on this particular episode; while, 2) promising to have her on a future episode about different/more events + ideas. I really want to hear more from Dylan but not necessarily about this. I value not re-traumatizing her more than my curiosity, & I appreciate Matt will give her an opportunity to use her voice for more than being objectified + abused by bigots in a h8 campaign.

@miznofiziksolajika470

6 ай бұрын

@@blorughuners9341 The grief that you feel isn't ours to bear, but yours to remedy. Don't blame us for your grievances. One day you'll look at yourself and realize the hate that you spent so much time spreading has only ever really held you back from living happily. Choose happiness, embrace love. I hope you heal.

@danepain

6 ай бұрын

Dylan is a man in a dress.

@sophiepooks2174

2 ай бұрын

@@miznofiziksolajika470 The gates of Auschwitz even had something meaning similar over it's entry gate spelled out in wrought iron, look around the world today and tell me what does society really know about love? Certainly love is not for everyone regardless how gentle, kind, sweet natured they are. Seems too many with privilege take delight in others being worse off, while telling them to 'pull themselves up by the bootstraps', because they are so hoodwinked by the imperialists system and all it's bad actors.

Remember folks, no corporation is your friend.

@evolved1665

3 ай бұрын

right they're gonna side with you as long as they make 💰

@partyhardy4942

Ай бұрын

Exactly. I'm so sorry for Dylan.

The Dylan Mulvaney case is insane. She was blameless and was no different from the many other influencers that a corporation employed to reach her millions of viewers. Hell, it should have come and gone if you weren't a subscriber to her, but it blew up and she became an effigy for the right to burn, even though they never knew about her beforehand. I don't even like Dylan Mulvaney (nothing against her, she's just the theatre kid type that I find insufferable), I'm not on tik tok, I would never have engaged with her after I'd heard of her if it hadn't been for mainstream media constantly showing this story, the GOP posting about her and the KZread algorithm pushing videos criticising her. She was unfairly sacrificed and it's like society was trying its damndest to go "hate this person." It was a pure witch hunt and I hope that she's living her best life now that the right have gotten bored.

@blorughuners9341

6 ай бұрын

lol she, Dylan is a man.

@dcxxxx

3 ай бұрын

First off, it's HE....secondly, anyone who thought it was a good idea to plaster a trans-clown on a product that was consumed, mostly, by straight dudes, deserves every bit of backlash.

Imagine an entire country getting mad about a single can That they haven’t even seen in real life

@bjohnson1489

4 ай бұрын

Imagine being angry over pancake syrup or rice

@sophiepooks2174

2 ай бұрын

@@bjohnson1489 False equivalence nobody is boycotting though are they.

@grandempressvicky6387

Ай бұрын

​​@@sophiepooks2174worse yet, the pancake syrup and rice featured racist caricatures of enslaved people as the selling point. It is not the same in the slightest. Even then, leftist never took to social media and shot bottles of Aunt Jemima or Uncle Ben's. They said it was problematic and inappropriate and the corporation simply removed the mascots. No violence or boycotting like Conservatives always do when something pisses them off.

Your point about trans peoples' existence being thought of as inherently political right now is so accurate and I hate that fact so much. It's honestly so exhausting because it warps literally everything I do. How I look, who I talk to, what I talk to those people about - it all has to be thought out because I'm not allowed to be a normal human like everyone else anymore. When conservative politicians are out here seriously saying how they "want to end transgenderism," my life is no longer in my own hands. I now have to rely on everyone else to make sure that one of those conservative lunatics aren't put in power and given the authority to remove me and every other trans person from existence. I think about this a lot and it's really scary.

@pinotnoir4234

6 ай бұрын

The sad thing is that it's always been political but people are more aware of it now. Double edged sword

@giokun100

6 ай бұрын

@@QuinnOsgood-rj7wz no one oppresses you for your gender. Life is oppressive for everyone who's born poor, sweetie.

@GeteMachine

6 ай бұрын

They think minorities existing in media is something they can disagree with and thus make that political.

@pinotnoir4234

6 ай бұрын

Our lives are political because our rights hinge on the government. reproductive rights, medical care, workers rights, literally everything is political. that's it's been. Everything. it's not just now, it's not just bigotry it's been that way since governments have had control over other people @@QuinnOsgood-rj7wz

@tristanband4003

5 ай бұрын

Well in a straight society anything queer is political. We should be politicizing heterosexuality in response.

now I’m excited to wait for which episode Dylan is coming on! she is such a considerate and true person, her perspective always interests me

@arielrodriguez968

6 ай бұрын

I’m so excited to see a conversation between Matt and Dylan!

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Same this was such a good call!

@peach_ringz_4evz

6 ай бұрын

same!!

@MixMeister5000

6 ай бұрын

Yes imagine charging a school 40k $ just to talk about nothing for like 20 people. At the cost of the students!!!!

I've stayed out of the BS of the bud light "controversy" short of of saying "please grow up and leave her alone." Whenever it came up. So that was the first time I'd seen her ad placement. Really? That was it? That's what people are mad about? I know it's obviously more than just "mad at trans because reasons." But my god that's pathetic. It's clearly a setup to come after her.

This controversy still amazes me to this day (in a nagative sense). Someone at Fox News (or whoever started this situation) had to screen Dylan's content to find the ad. This was never meant to enter the conservative bubble. Or any mainstream in general. In the end this is just another lesson that conpanys will drop any kind of support for LGTBQ people as soon as things become uncomfortable for them and will always put profit before integrity.

@drasco61084

6 ай бұрын

That's the news in general honestly always blowing up some minor inconsequential story into this huge thing instead of doing real journalism on something more meaningful and beneficial for the public, it's just whatever gets views/engagement. Probably some loser that hate watches her contacted Fox News. There are always those people on any trans person's channel.

@GeteMachine

6 ай бұрын

Culture war content is a grift. They look for things. They fake their outrage. Most wouldn't actually care if they didnt need it for profit. Thats the worst part of their capitalism. Tomi Lahren originally defended Caitlyn Jenner as a trans woman way before this, but all of a sudden shes on the hate of Dylan Mulvany train because thats where her party is. They know they use this to deflect from the things the Republicans are doing to actually screw over people, and these people who follow these dumb queerphobic conspiracies are being milked.

That anti woke beer ad feels like it should be a parody.

@RexxyRobin

5 ай бұрын

I hate to admit that I find the guy doing the ad incredibly hot. Shame on me xD

@jeffersonhassan4558

4 ай бұрын

​@@RexxyRobinhave some self respect,you gay men find every man hot

@grandempressvicky6387

Ай бұрын

​@@RexxyRobinno shame at all. Unfortunately, a lot of handsome and beautiful people support the ugliest side of politics 😭

Damn... I'm from Germany so I didn't know all the details about this situation but based on how huge this 'controversy' was I thought that they had her face on like every can in the country, not that there was only one for her personally 😭

the un-woke beer name gives mojo dojo casa house vibes

"Conservative dads, ultra right, 100% woke free beer" - tell me you don't have a life without telling me you don't have a life.

How Dylan was treated was such a canary in the coalmine moment of how trans people are treated, because there was no excuse - no accusations of “grooming” or bad behavior, or any of the other things that conservatives pretend they’re concerned about. The ONLY reason they were mad is that she’s trans. She didn’t do anything. All she did was exist. How horrible is that?

That CEO didn't answer a single question but the hosts didn't even push?

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Right??!? It's equally frustrating that the hosts simply accept the obvious nonsense + non-answers from the floating suit.

Dylan just seems so sweet, I can’t imagine being hateful towards her

@cloudycolacorp

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMentalj Oh no the pronoun patrol is here

@blorughuners9341

6 ай бұрын

Him, and he’s disgusting.

@PattisKarriereKarten

6 ай бұрын

HE is a clown that mocks real women with his exaggerated behaviour.

@beepinboopin6454

5 ай бұрын

He’s a gay guy pushing gay conversion therapy by trying to trans gay kids

@CeriseRose

5 ай бұрын

Fr she’s so hard to hate

okay i'm going to be honest, i've never done much digging into the riley gaines situation because i knew it would just annoy me. the fact that all of the rightwing outrage was over a fifth place tie in one single college competition is just. i don't even have words. i want to laugh and scream at the same time. these people are so pathetic.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Right!?!?? I kind of need a Riley Gaines episode now bc she got this slight whiff of opportunity when Team Bigot cracked the door open for her & 5th Place Riley just kicked it down & made straight for the buffet table like it was her calling. I hope people like Matt are able to do some critical digging into her back-story, bc she sure went quickly from "just a normal American aspiring athlete who felt personally affected by something who was moved to "speak out" or whatever" to "h8ful monstrous mouthpiece for total bigotry who pops up in every suss fascy space + campaign lately..." & I intuit that there are some background agendas + people who need to be dragged into the light so we can see what they are up to.

@GeteMachine

6 ай бұрын

@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Fox News called her one of the "best" in the country. Even though she was fifth to further scare people with the audacity she tied with a transperson.

@SarastistheSerpent

6 ай бұрын

It’s even more pathetic when you take into account that she didn’t even lose to a trans woman, but only tied with her, and was beaten by 4 other cis women.

@henryt9281

6 ай бұрын

When 70% of America (according to Gallup) say it's unfair for males to complete against female, it's not just "right wing" outrage anymore. And as teachers are finally waking up and not avoiding teaching biologic reality for fear of backlash, that percentage will continue to grow higher.

@scottyawesomesauce467

2 ай бұрын

Recently woken. Not a single conservative pundant mentioned it was over 5th place. Not a one

The thing i find offensive about the Target tucking underwear controversy is, so what if they were selling them to children? Teenage trans girls need to tuck sometimes, grow up and get over it

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. We don't push back with "So?" or "And?" as much as we should. It's so easy to get baited into arguing with people on their own terms, within their own narrow framing, & like...why? We reject those beliefs, why are they the limits of our argumentation? Why should we? We shouldn't make the mistake of accepting false premises in the first place. "So what?" at least forces rightwingers, reactionaries, bigots, + fascists to say aloud + explicitly what they were trying to slide in as greasy subtext or euphemism or intimation, so we can drag it into the light so we can all see how h8ful it really is.

@residentbogwitch

6 ай бұрын

Also it was literally just a swimsuit with extra fabric on the bottom. Like people were mad about a swimsuit with extra coverage. Why the fuck would you be upset about a kid wearing a swimsuit with extra coverage?

@Fiona_fml

6 ай бұрын

@@henryt9281 imagine being stupid enough to think makeup has a gender lmao

@MoMo-ke1iq

6 ай бұрын

@@henryt9281 are you telling trans girls what time do with their genitals???? Disgusting. Leave people alone

@danalovesfamilyandlife4666

5 ай бұрын

@@henryt9281Oh just shut up and just to let you know makeup isn't just for women anyone can use it and women are still women without makeup cry about it lmfaoo 🤣😂

I think all of this happening, we’re going to go through another Stonewall era. I have been gay since at least 4 when I knew I was attracted to boys. I started watching gay p*rn since I was 8. I started getting questioned by my mom at age 10 and came out fully at 12. I didn’t realize how conservative my parents were till 2016 when Trump won. I have had a very privileged life until 2016 and now seeing how conservative my parents are I have questioned every thing including how I still have my parents in my life. But if things get worse, I am ready to fight for my community. We will not be silenced. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Here, queer, 365 days a year!

@MISSMADISONMEDIA

6 ай бұрын

I’m with you, but porn at 8 is not a flex :/

You'd think the sales of that drink went up because of all those people who needed to shoot the cans.

As a Canadian, I'm deeply disturbed that anyone would voluntarily drink Bud Light in the first place.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Did you snicker when Matt said "lukewarm take"? I totally did bc every Bud Light I've accidentally tasted has been lukewarm. It tastes lukewarm even when it's cold. Dylan deserved a better brew for sure.

@Iisa1010

6 ай бұрын

As a German, I don't even know what a "light" beer means?!

@ArtUndertheArch

6 ай бұрын

@@Iisa1010it means trash 😊

@MISSMADISONMEDIA

6 ай бұрын

That’s what I’m sayin😂 They’re acting like that was anyone’s favorite beer in the first place

@emilyrln

6 ай бұрын

I assume it's cheap, like PBR or something…

Rainbow washing is crap, sure. But the fact that it has been going on is a statement from big cooperations saying that society values our lives enough to make our inclusion profitable. The fact that the greed is likely no longer in our favor speaks volumes about haw society values our lives at present - we are once again so oppressed that pretending we don't exist is beneficial for anyone* outside our community. *Obviously not saying that allies don't exist, only that they are doing something for someone other than themselves, and that we will likely see fewer allies in the future.

reminder that Kid Rock wrote and sang this line in a kids movie. Just for a taste of the quality of people who are vehemently transphobic "Young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage see Some say that's statutory (But I say it's mandatory)" -'Cool, Daddy Cool' by Kid Rock

@sophiepooks2174

2 ай бұрын

Yep the real danger to children and youth right there, not having a trans person around.

lol that clay travis clip. "people know if you drink bud light right now, you might experience extremely watered-down second hand homophobia!" boy wouldn't last ten seconds in a catholic high school and it shows.

Dylan is such a fucking lovely person and it makes me so angry how much hate she got and then the budlight ontop broke my heart.

@bjohnson1489

4 ай бұрын

Him

We stayed queer all year round last year.

“We support politicians that support our business”

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

That empty suit floating in air across from Gail King sure had no points to make.

@MISSMADISONMEDIA

6 ай бұрын

That actually blew my mind. You know how they say “we cant conceptualize evil we aren’t capable of”?? I literally am not built to run a huge business, and it’s scary to imagine what it took for these higher ups to become so desensitized 😬 I genuinely can’t imagine running a business who has zero values.. This year we’re making anti-holocaust bottles, and next year we’re making bottles with Hitler’s face on them… like does anything matter to these people at all??!

19:43 fancy way of saying “our company stands for nothing and has no soul”

I'm from Denmark. At first I legit thought it was all the bud light cans that had her face on. I was hoping it would make it to Denmark so I could buy one, because I thought it would look neat next to a couple plants I have in some different curious bottles. Anyways, found out there were only one and it made me sad.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

lol I'm Canadian, I thought it was like when Coke came out with their Coke For Everyone campaign & all these bottles were released with various names on them, until the last vestiges were the really rare names eg Xavier, Beryl, Adolf, etc that went on sale. So I didn't think Dylan was on all Bud Lights, but I tried to get a 6 pack too, thinking it was like the Coke campaign. I expected B-A Co. had released a limited selection of cans with the various faces of every Content Creator included in the campaign, so I figured I could find at least 1 to buy with Dylan on it. I was shocked when I found out there was nothing but the 1 can. She's right when she says if she ever finds the can again it needs to be in a museum.

I will be the first to admit that although I know a lot about this story, I also wrongly believed there were more cans than just the singular can sent to Dylan. I really dislike the idea that corporations only remember we exist one month a year and I LOATHE all the rainbow washing, but I will also admit I have bought stuff in the past to wear or display from large companies who sold rainbow/LGBTQ+ stuff, and at the time those companies also acted as though they supported us and stood with us, and some even donated to worthy causes like the Trevor Project, GLSEN, etc. This past year I bought nothing, not even from Target. Our store did not move their display to the back like others, it was still proudly on display in the front, the first thing you see, but I just couldn't support them, especially when they told trans and queer artists they could not sell their collaborated merchandise. To go along with the Colin Kaepernick thing, one of those trans artists actually was completely sold out of items from their personal online store. It just goes to show you that we need to stop listening to the voices of the small minority, because it does nothing but make their small voices louder and make people think that what they're saying is what the majority thinks, or should think, and that they're right. I will be much more careful in the future when deciding to purchase rainbow stuff, but I will not stop being who I am just because Joe conservative thinks I should. I'm going to continue to be outwardly and loudly gay!

Why was kid rock nearly in tears when he did that video? His voice cracks...

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

I wonder if, pushing 60, he has any regrets about hinging his entire career on a moniker that follows the formula "Kid ____".

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

@@QuinnOsgood-rj7wz Yeah he really bought into it, whole hog. This collision between celebrity + politics really brought the worst elements of both out.

Matt just jus casually continues his video while his neighbor on the same floor is having a fire put out no biggie

I am by no means a large trans creator. I make slideshows on TikTok that get a max 50,000 views, but usually more like 500. I have watched the platform become completely uninhabitable to trans people this year. My friends who used to get thousands of likes on every post now get like four. The fyp barely shows trans content at all. Everything we post gets immediately removed and most of the time doesn't get reinstated. I've gotten community guidelines violations for simply using the word trans in comments. It's been really sad watching the trans slideshow tiktok community be slowly eradicated. Especially because trans people on tiktok who post slideshows aren't exactly the most mentally stable people, and for a lot of us, it was our only outlet.

The NHL also made some changes for Pride jerseys and Pride tape which was highly disappointing.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Yes, I wish that had been covered more. maybe Emma Vigeland did something on it; she has a sports podcast. I should go look. thanks for reminding me this happened. Happy 2024!

Every time i see the conservative dad's beer ad it reads to my brain as satire so hard. The fact it was sincere gets me every time

Im french and i completely missed this. I see sometimes dylan in my foryou page and she seems lovely and i vaguely heard she made a controversial sponsorship but this! (Conservative) americans are crazy...

My favorite was when Dad beer guy said we don't even know what bathroom to use 😂 UH, NO we know what bathroom to use, you just don't like it. It's a you problem. 🤷‍♀️ Why are these people so cognitively dissonant 🫠

This podcast discusses some hard stuff but always leaves me feeling warm and fuzzy. Thanks for being soft in this rough world 💛

I wonder how this June is going to be.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

This is haunting & will haunt me for 6 more months at least.

@henazz2561

6 ай бұрын

Conservashits are gonna keep attacking the trans and queer community , demonizing us and looking forward to promote anti-lgbt+ bigotry, and to benefit from it. So don't ask yourself how this June is going to be, ask yourself how we collectively could fight back against bigotry and make it next pride better than the last. We need to organize!!! And that's that

i’m trans myself and the whole time this was going on i was just like can’t we all just agree budlight is a shitty beer regardless of how you feel about trans people? i can’t believe we were seriously culture warring over one of the worst beers available. ah yes this is a highly valued cultural artifact that must be protected from the wokes

@TheMentalj

6 ай бұрын

No such thing as trans

@hekimeti1614

6 ай бұрын

You are missing the point so badly

@s13rr4buf3

6 ай бұрын

Can we all agree that Dylan is a terrible example of a person of any sort?

@hekimeti1614

6 ай бұрын

@s13rr4buf3 no, why would you agree on that? All Dylan does is be nice to ppl on the internet and live her life, what is so terrible as a human about thay

@ratleader90

6 ай бұрын

And plus, the design of the label looks more like the bottle is filled with windshield wiper fluid.

The Bud Light Boycott is a double edged sword. On the one hand, it was an incredibly stupid movement rooted in homophobia and hypocrisy, as well as being fronted by the live action cartoon character that is Kid Rock, but on the other hand, it did kinda shine a light on how stupid rainbow capitalism is. It really showed how stupid it is to just slap a rainbow on something and say "Oh, look. We're progressive now!", and showed how corporations are only willing to protect gay people when it benefits them. And honestly, we need to call that out more, rather than begrudgingly accepting token pandering because Billy the Homophobe got pissed at seeing 2 ladies kiss. So yeah, while the Bud Light Boycott was a stupid movement rooted in bigotry, hatred, and hypocrisy, it was a necessary evil to broadcast how stupid rainbow capitalism is to the world. Also, Greg Owen made a great video called "Anti-Woke Reverse Virtue Signaling", that does a great job calling out corporate virtue signaling on both sides. Definitely check it out!

isn't it funny when you find out the product you thought supported you shifts gears when the profits don't align...

Happy to have found this channel. Excellent audio quality and presentation. Really makes my work day more enjoyable! Have a great new year, everyone

OMG it was only ONE can.Yes, it's as dumb as the rage over M&M's, only this was a human being, Goddamnit! It's HORRIBLE, how she was treated

5:18 Fake news, they had these Dylan Mulvaney cans in my children's lunchrooms and libraries for weeks!

@gaeig

6 ай бұрын

Beer cans 🤡🤡

@sophiepooks2174

2 ай бұрын

* Pants on fire there indeed.

"whatever team you love, i love too" she is literally so cute and sweet i don't know how people make her out to be some malicious person!!! like she is just existing!!

@LizardOfmonaco-uc7rd

5 ай бұрын

Wtf is wrong with you 🤮🤮🤮

This outrage is so wild though. I can’t believe at the age of 21 I legitimately had to hide a case of bud light from my parents

@GOTTA_RUN

3 ай бұрын

Maybe move out of your parents place if you're so worried about how they think

@lunarumbreon7699

3 ай бұрын

@@GOTTA_RUN yep I’ll just buy a house while I’m still in college because the housing market is just doing spectacular right now

Literally for real how can anyone not like Dylan. She's so warm + kooky + wholesome, she's like a guest star everyone's happy seeing when she drops by the Sit Com Of Life. & I'm not even a fan! I've never seen her content outside this Bud mess, but any clips I saw were completely darling + as Matt says, innocuous. She was an immediate queen & the extent of my feelings were always "she seems sweet + cool + would be a great friend". Respect respect respect to Dylan for absolutely everything, & respect respect respect to Matt for everything plus the very transparently clear ethical call to wait to have Dylan on while covering this properly. I'm glad we can explore this f-ckery without having to re-traumatize Dylan.

@Anonymous-54545

6 ай бұрын

That's such a good description of her.

@jeremyusreevu237

6 ай бұрын

I'm 100% pro-trans people, but I just personally find Dylan Mulvaney really annoying. She just comes across as every theater kid stereotype rolled up into one person.

So 50 years ago ,if a beer commercial showed a black man and white woman having a beer together,the backlash would have been the same right ? Different times today but still the same old ignorance.

the original video reminds me of the "wealthy woman does [insert mundane thing here]" skits that one comedian on tiktok does

It blows my mind that this became a controversy, it was not that interesting that someone received a beer can with their face on it.

Dylan is a ray of sunshine. And Matt is pretty awesome, too.

You're one of my favorite podcasts! Your clear, concise and no-bullshit way of speaking about issues is so nice to listen to. A lot of podcasts will ramble on and go on tangents for minutes but when I listen to you I feel like my own mind becomes clearer. Much love!

Honestly at this point I'm just sick of people going crazy over wokeness and woke products (whatever that even means) like they really need to get over themselves. And for all I care they can keep their shoddy beer, Bud Light always tasted like burro's piss to me. I prefer Modelo anyway (or any of the local craft beers in my area, support local businesses) Also on the topic of corporate pride...it ultimately just comes off as insecure desperation for relevance and public approval

@sophiepooks2174

2 ай бұрын

Yes annoying, the majority of straight and religious conservative people who inhabit the area where I live formerly known from the 1970's -late 90's as the cities gayborhood now view streets lined with corporate sponsored rainbow and trans flags/ a tiny history museum as LGBTQ people having "special rights" and "ramming queerness down everyone's throats" When the few remaining in that area are either struggling small businesses/apartment/slum owners, quite a few there still rely on welfare and charities to get by, the corporations do nothing to make their lives any better, just the appearance that everything is o.k now.

And this too shall past. I remember being young and gay in the late 80’s and 90’s, the homophobia was everywhere and I had to lied, hide and lie some more …. about everything. And, the fear. We survived and are STILL standing and that, gave me hope because we are strong and have weathered the storm many many times. ❤️❤️

@henazz2561

6 ай бұрын

Yessir , I look back to the past when I'm feeling hopeless about the struggle of us queer people. We will always be here

Hi Matt, i'm quite a new fan. I saw you interview Natalie Wynn, and thought "what a dude". I wanted to say how much I like listening to what you have to say. You're a calm person.

Also, I totally thought March Madness was football… 😅

Comments do well for engagement so I'm gonna tell you what I would do if I had a time machine, in a "if girls had time machines" meme way. I would go back to the day before Dylan did this campaige with a laptop full of saved backlash footage possible including external hard drives if must, travel to their house and burst in in the most gay way, grab that loser can, pour out the loser beer, apologize for the trauma and sit her down and show her why it was all necessary. Then Dylan and I would spend the next three to four years taking on new lives climbing the corporate latter at bush until one or both of us have an affair with some ceos and have tones of soap opera nonsenes until we gain control of the whole enterprise. Tragically we will have a huge falling out at some point, but that is a story for that soap opera time line.

Great video even though it made me rage. This reeks of the friendly fascism outlined by Bertram Gross and covered in the most recent Sisyphus 55 video.

I'm from Europe and just laughing how Americans can turn everything into a culture war. And that culture war is entertained by both parties.

These types of videos are so important! We have to speak up📢

I’m always so happy when there’s a new episode!

I feel sorry for Dylan and I wish she didn't have to go through all this horrible stuff, but I also think it's hilarious to see Bud Light get absolutely slammed from every side. I love how everyone hates them now.

I am from Europe so the whole issue did reach over to my side of the internet, but I didn't know any details. Just that there was some "promotion" with a trans person from Budlight and that conservatives got really mad about it. I had no idea this was just one small video on her instagram. The reaction really made me believe that this was some bigger statement and I genuinely thought that Budlight stood by her and that made them mad. But they kicked her to the curb. I'm honestly shocked at how vicious people got and quite sad for Dylan that she got used and abandoned like that.

Thanks for yet another thoughtful, well researched, and articulate commentary. Starting a Patreon is a great idea. I expect there are many others like me who currently support creators who put a lot less effort into their work and have a lot less talent than you do. I felt guilty when clicking thumbs up was my only support. Not feeling guilty any more.

There was something so heart wrenching to see that sponsored TikTok of Dylan's for the first time in your opening. I have gotten into debates with people espousing trans hysteria or even entertaining the notion of MSM pushing the 'LGBTQ+ agenda' (whatever that is) and even though I'm not on TikTok, I'm still online (unfortunately), and there was no way of avoiding the fanatical weaponization of hate and the media campaign against Dylan, trans people, and LGBTQ+ rights and lives. That it all* came out of that innocent, silly, sponsored spot... I hate that my heart can still be twisted up like this. There has to be a better way for us all and your channel gives me hope in a world where there is more space for sincere, good faith discussions against the torrent of cynical, bare-faced bigotry. EDIT: I know that anti-LGBTQ+ hate and trans hysteria didn't begin there but the controversy was the fire-starter for much of 2023s flaming dumpster discourse surrounding trans people.

I love how supportive queer creators are of each others! We all need to stick together and stand up for one another more, as a community. 🏳‍🌈🏳‍⚧

Wow I didn’t even know there was only one can. That is insane. I don’t drink so I thought Dylan was part of a huge campaign. Crazy.

you’re killing it w/ these discussions!! can’t wait to hear Dylan on.

Really appreciated this episode! I think it's a great idea for you to get a patreon! I love to follow creators on Patreon and I do appreciate you explaining how it impacts your content creation.

This is why I find it foolish to jump to support corporations just cause they slap a rainbow on something. Buy something because you really really like it if you got no other options I guess. But let's not go out of our way to promote anything or give any companies a shout-out. I mean honestly just in general I find these tik toks these days hilarious "dollar tree finds" like to me they very much seem like plants from within these companies to push more consumption of their cheap junk lol

11:27 and 11:47 "Stay the BLEEP away from our kids" proceeds to market their product with 90% naked women, all these fairweather christians throwing tantrums over a single can of beer

thank you for another amazing podcast episode!! I'm so excited for your patreon!! I look forward to joining when I'm no longer broke!

I listened to this on Spotify and when it got to the fire ?!??! Babe are you good? 😂😂😂

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

6 ай бұрын

Oh you owe it to yourself to watch that part on video bc babe handled that with the grace of an angel + impeccable posture.

@pleasestopscreaming

6 ай бұрын

​@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426haha thanks for the tip. I did watch. I am also nosy and want to know what happened with the neighbor 😅

Glad I came to this channel. I have to stop commenting at bigoted people on other KZread channels and spend more time in positive communities

So it seems that in recent years there’s been this additional political backlash against transgender and LGBT+ people in the USA. As someone who lives in the UK, where we aren’t yet at that level but seem to be rapidly getting there, I would be interested if you did a video delving into how attitudes in the US shifted so far from largely supporting LGBT+ legislation to stripping away these peoples’ rights and how other countries seem to be following suit. Love your podcast so much Matt!! ❤️

@TransHippie

6 ай бұрын

The trans community has been calling Britain "TERF Island" for years. It's bad there. Legally, worse than most of the USA.

@NinjaRodent

6 ай бұрын

Not to defend the US or anything but the UK and England in particular seem to be ramping up transphobia to a whole other level. Like it appears that even Labor has taken stances against "trans ideology" and trans people are getting put on infinitely long waiting lists for their treatment. Hell I've seen the UK referred to as TERF Island by many LGBT spaces/communities. But maybe I'm just getting cherry picked information. 🤷

@oiytd5wugho

2 ай бұрын

Pretty sure you are very much at that level. Your government has been instituting eliminationist policy against queer people for a while now - supported by both tories and labour alike

Your "hello hello" is soothing for my soul. Thanks for your podcast, I am always looking forward what you and your guests have to say.

Its insane how people were shooting cans- its like a metaphor for shooting trans people thats what i see

matt, thank you for what you do. seriously, we love you, keep being you ❤

This is such a GREAT idea. Will definitely be supporting you on Patreon.

16:35 Thank you Matt, Bud Light pisses me off for the same reason. I was disgusted to see them as a sponsor at our Pride later that year.

I love your impeccable logic and your compelling argumentation. I really enjoy your content.

the ultra right beer cpmmercial looks soooo much like a parody. its unreal

New listener here, good luck on your patreon!!!

I love that you have a channel now

Since the outrage around this was transparently nonsense I never really looked into the details, so I had no idea this all stemmed from one Instagram post and one beer can. The outsized reaction, mask-off hatred, and heavily implied threats of violence that followed were absurd and sad. And AB trying to play both sides was disgusting, as was their pseudo-patriotic non-apology.

This comment will be lost maybe for being so late. Im so happy to find tour channel. I have leanerd and listening so much

The end was delightful, thank you

like Lana Del Rey once said in Music to Watch Boys To : I like you a lot.

Maybe the reason Nike got less backlash is because their market was already younger and/or more diverse than Bud Lights? PS Im a broke grad student now but when I get a real job I'll totally join your Patreon!

and the clown show continues. i couldn't come up with a more ridiculous situation than this one if i tried. holy fleem the "fuck your feelings" crowd sure can't cope with a reality that hands someone they didn't even know about the world's least consequential W completely unrelated to fking anything they have going on in their own lives huh?

At the time when all of this happened I had some personal stuff going on that kept me particularly offline, so first of all thank you for this very informative catch-up; and the most insane thing to me is that this was all over Dylan Mulvaney simply existing as a trans person. From the level of outrage I was hearing of at the time, I really had thought that Bud Light had done a WHOLE campaign of her face on cans across the country... And to hear that it was literally just one single video of her with one single unique can with no political messaging whatsoever is absolutely infuriating. Not to mention all of the pride campaign bs. I cannot fucking believe that I live in a country so unabashedly fucking stupid and filled with ignorant hate.

Another difference between Colin capernick and Dylan Mulvaney is that Nike stuck behind Colin. They didn’t shy him away in the background and retract they’re statements about him, the fought to have him seen and showed that they supported him while Bud Light left Dylan in the dust. Idk maybe that’s another thing that made a difference.

The reason it was different than Nike's campaign is that Nike's core consumer base was not republicans, and they made sure not to alienate the people whose side they were seemingly taking by doubling down with the ad campaign. Whereas beer as a whole and Budlight in particular appealed for decades to a core right wing consumer base.

Thank you for this video!