Interesting little device and great length of video, maybe 1-2 hours more would make it even better:-) LOL I got the idea that you used the Siglent scope, to not blow up your more expensive GW scope? I learned a lot, also this time, am I right in thinking that capacity is dependent on frequency and its ability to react fast enough, plus the ESR is also its limit for how fast it can charge and discharge? EDIT: forgot to say that you can avoid reflections on the screens if you use a circular pol-filter in front of the linse.

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to do a video on capacitors. I’ve actually been a SME (pronounced smee, which is Subject Matter Expert) on capacitors. Each capacitor type varies in what parameters drive the characteristics of the particular capacitor. With Super Capacitors, you’re right, the esr does drive how fast the cap can be charged and discharged.

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

BTW, I actually shot this before I got the GW Instek, but it was so long and there were parts that I didn’t like, so I wanted to re-shoot before I uploaded it. But, as I was on vacation and wanted to upload a video, I decided to finish it and publish it. I’ll try the polarized filter idea - thank you!

@friedmule5403

5 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog That sounds wary interesting! If you like, I would really like if you could tell about why you often see small caps connected to larger caps, I guess that it have to do with reaction speed? Also if 10 x 2,000uF or 1 x 20,000 uF is preferred? :-)

@friedmule5403

5 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog I have to say that I liked the end result, wary informative and a fine flow! You are welcome:-)

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

Fried Mule Those are great questions, and come up with every project. I’ll get started right away, great video to build our future talks on!

I saw this in the background while you were doing a presentation the Siglent Technologies SDS1202X-E and decided to look it up and it looked impressive so I bought it. BTW great presentation!

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Congrats on a great scope!

Hi Eddie, it seems like I can always learn something new thanks for the video

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Great in-depth review and analysis.....thanks!

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

You bet! And thank you for your feedback!

It is the same good old GM328 component tester. however with handy casing, convenient trough-hole and proper SMD component landing pads, monochrome screen (easier for eyes on prolonged use) and added internal battery that together make this device very convenient. It is worth every penny, large brand devices with partially the same possibilities will cost an eye and kidney to you.

@KissAnalog

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your great feedback!

Dude you are costing me a fortune in shiny new test gear!

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

Look at that bench! So many... so much fun !

@KissAnalog

11 ай бұрын

LOL thanks!

Wow, yours came with probe. Thumbs up. Mine didn't. Great explanation sir. Thumbs up.

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks appreciate it!! I must have gotten lucky;)

@NNITRED

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't get probes either.

"Something that I don't know anything about", 10:22 , those are not words that inspire much confidence. I was also amused by the capacitor frequency response befuddlement. It's too bad that when you buy a tool it doesn't include the knowledge needed to use it. EDIT: There are many good sources online to learn how to use that O-scope. Siglent has user manuals for available for free download on their support page. But the SDS 1202X is a discontinued model so you might need to ask them about it or just find it online. I still have the manuals for the Tektronix scopes I used. A remnant of the good old days when manuals were included by default.

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry - I don't know what your question or comment is making... At the time slot that you provided - I was reporting that the documentation wasn't sufficient for what I was measuring - then I went ahead to show how it could actually be measured by the use of an Oscilloscope. It was not a Tektronix - which I am an expert on using. I have used those for most of my career, but I am using my lab scope that is much more affordable - and I am also an expert in using. So, let me know what you want to know - and I can help you - but your comment makes no sense to me...sorry.

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

I actually don't expect a reply to my response. I almost never get one. I must think it because the comment I am trying to respond to is just someone wanting to be negative and not actually wanting a real answer or respone...

@jssamp4442

2 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog I was commenting on how unsure you seemed to be about the features of your scope and how to set it up. You didn't come across as an expert with it in the video.

@jssamp4442

2 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog It is not just wanting to be negative, though to be fair I can see how it might look that way. It was partly snide comment about someone posting a video presumably to educate others on a topic about, "Something that I don't know anything about." I found that amusing. I didn't want to leave it at that without helping you to find the documentation for the scope. Finally I lamented the loss of value represented by product that we purchase these days that don't include a manual. Years ago it was almost unheard of for a new tech toy to be sold without a printed manual.

Would like to see you try to measure ESR of a capacitor while in circuit with the BSIDE ESR02 Pro and a higher quality one to compare

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

Chris Anderson That sounds like an interesting experiment. Thanks for that!

Yes you were testing the probe's resistances! That happens when you have so much stuff plugged in, while measuring values! No big deal, we all done this plus ++++

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

Tony Fleming Thanks!

I have one that is kind of like this. It came in a self assembly kit. This has the exact same screen & program. My has different buttons, with a multi-function potentiometer. The potentiometer works a lot better then trying to hold the buttons down for a certain amount of time. Lol. It came with a 400v poly cap for calibrating it ( when it ask for it) during the self test.

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that is interesting. I might have to check that one out;) Thanks for the feedback!

quite reliable for what it costs, I have to buy it because besides measuring diodes triodes mosfets capacitance of caps, it also measures the ESR so as not to have to unsolder the caps from the board, (you didn't show if you could measure the ESR in the board but I think that was obvious), I was thinking of buying a MESR-100 but that only measures the ESR for what I know, although it remains one of the best, but in your tests with BSIDE-ESR02 I have seen that the results are all acceptable, and then this is also good as function generator, in a few days I will arrive by courier a scope to 200 mhz like yours but of different brand ( unfortunately without protocols, I will have to go to intuition), but I am excited at the idea of ​​testing everything....I buy this ESR02 right now ;)

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

Good for you! It will be interesting to hear how you like it. Thanks for the feedback.

@chrisblank9090

5 жыл бұрын

I bought 2 mesr 100s. when you plug in a much longer pair of probes the readings become eronous. and the thing is shit to zero out. shorting the probe tips then pressing that null/zero button zeros it for just seconds, then when you short the probes the 2nd time it is off again. the input jacks also is a source of the problem. the milliohm resistance of the sleeves both the banana plugs and jacks is detected by the device. a pain in the ass for professional use

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Blank Great feedback - thank you for sharing this!!

@lucasrocha4329

Жыл бұрын

I have bside esr02. But i want purchase mesr 100 also.

@m80116

Жыл бұрын

It's all cool and dandy until you have to measure 4V caps and that is a nightmare with no clear indication of ESR with no knowledge of the board layout you're never sure. Still, pretty accurate but VERY UNPRACTICAL. I use it as a complementary tool and I find it pretty annoying to have to press a button each time for the device to turn on and do its measurement. I wish I had a third hand, or possibly, try to power it with the DC jack, hopefully it stays ON.

I know that this is an old video and who knows, you may not have or use this cool device. I have the same one and I just love it, especially for testing caps and seeing their ESR. It is amazing how you can have a bunch of the EXACT same caps from the same batch and they test differently. Especially ESR. I had to repair a 5V power supply and it uses 2 low ESR caps, which I couldn't find locally. So using this meter, I was able to go through a bunch of regular caps at the same capacitance and find 2 with very low ESR numbers. The PS is working fine. But, the one thing I'm not sure of, is if it can test caps in-circuit! I'm not seeing a way to change the frequency, other than the f-Generator, which I don't think affects cap testing. I'm trying to avoid buying a "special meter", like the one you used to compare with. I may have to, however. I have a Channel Master DVR that I have to recap, but I'd like to test each cap, in circuit, where possible just to see if any of the caps "stand out" as problematic. Worse, is that these are those horrible little SMD silver can caps that explode if you try to desolder them. LOL So, since this video, have you confirmed if this device can test, accurately, in-circuit? Thanks in advance.

Brilliant

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is an oldie but goodie Eddie. I will take your 5th best meter... hahaaha

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Hi,o meu bside ESR PRO2 não aparece nada no display, como refazer a gravação do atmega 328p u-ht??? O micro controlador entrou em curto! Mais só fazer a substituição do ci não adianta, parece que tem que programa-lo!

Nice 189...my favorite fluke meter 😁👍

@KissAnalog

Жыл бұрын

Yes the 189 is my favorite Fluke as well.

Thanks for the review I started to use and there is one thing which I didn't understand when testing diodes which is the "ir" at the top right anybody knows what the ir means when testing switching diodes?

@lucasrocha4329

Жыл бұрын

Reverse current.

Great presentation... Can someone say, how this is doing compared to the Atlas dca55. This one is less than half the price. I don't need it for ESR, just for component testing. Other channels says that the dca55 is way superior to these cheap testers. Claus

@KissAnalog

8 ай бұрын

Hi Claus - great to hear from you. I don't know these lower cost testers seem very good to me and I don't see where the Atlas would be better, but it is more expensive. For under $29 this is pretty good;) amzn.to/475dW1J

Hi. I'm new to your channel and I just want to ask. Is the ESR reading on this reliable? Would you trust it?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

I think they seem to be pretty good - at least a good idea.

@eugenejose9301

4 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog Thanks. Really considering buying this one.

Unfortunately this tester doesn't recognize digital bipolar transistors. I use another one with digitransistor that measure and shows between base emitter resistors

I could never figure out if the "frequency" mode is a counter. Has anyone used it as a frequency counter? How does it work?

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are right;) I'll have to give it a try. I meant to do a follow up once I had a chance to use it for awhile...

Nice oscilloscope

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

that one can be used to match small signal TO-92 transistors too? 😊

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like it. I’ll have to try it out and compare to something to see how accurate, but looks promising.

@CoquiAudio

5 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog awesome!, hey I just test the soft star today and I think is fine the time delay for the relay bypass circuit is about 0.71ms and after I installed the rectifiers and filter caps I have 66.5V DC on positive rails and negative rails pretty good 👍 the house light dim a bit but is noting serious maybe I need to experiment with different NTC values the one I use is 10 ohms 15 amps I might upload the video later good day bro 👍😊

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

vargasmongo3435 That’s great feedback! It will be interesting to hear what your final solution is. Thanks for sharing!

Have a pretty similar device. They are all more or less based from a particular open source design I think. Anyway, the "frequency" entry in the menu is a frequency counter. You can try with the calibration signal of your scope or any signal generator and should tell you the frequency .

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

Elias Zacarias Thank you! I’ll have to try some of the other features.

@TheAlanSaunders

4 жыл бұрын

124pp of more than you need to know! Chapter 3 - p37 Instructions for use. Karl-Heinz Kübbeler March 28, 2016 www.tsf-radio.org/forum/im/264840254890ttester.pdf

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Alan Saunders WOW! Now that’s a user guide;) Thank you for this!!

Hi, thanks for the video, in 1:29 you said mF is microfarad, isn't mF stand for millifarad? thanks

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you are correct mF is for milliFarad;) Thank you for pointing that out!

Which is better, bside esr02 or mesr q 100 ?

Will this one test capacitors in circuit so I can look for broken ones without having to desolder them?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Yes in circuit is possible, but there are always traps in doing so. I’m hoping to post a new video on this tomorrow. pleas let me know what you think;)

@avecforte8851

4 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog thank you! Would love a video like that :)

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Did you see my latest video where I show 3 low cost LCR type meters with transistor tester?

@avecforte8851

4 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog oh no I did not! Will watch it this morning, thank you :)

I'm new to electronics (well not new, just a free time hobby, so not so much time to study). But if you have access to pro equipment from a friend, this device and more could be done with arduino and calibrated using the the pro equipment ? I'm right ?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear from you Francisco! May I ask what country that you are in? I think that you are probably right. You can do a lot with those things - I need to start playing around and learning the Arduino. But, then I'm so busy making videos;) I have a new one that I'm starting with a device like this and a few others to compare. The price is so good and they do so much.

@ConsertandoTudo

4 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog Brazil. I did some low voltage multi-meter, pretty simple, basic voltage dividers and some lines of code... The real thing star with high voltage, to be done proper, and risk free, optical couples are needed, an insulated case, and a display... The project can be enhanced more, like using a diode as temperature sensor, and calibrate results trough code. But I don't have any calibrated device, even if I use 1% resistors, the error will be still unknown.

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

I’ll bet you will be close enough:)

Since the battery voltage is a bit low, I bet putting a new 9v in there, it might be more accurate. Or using a 12v power supply.

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Derk! That might be true - but I'd think there would be a voltage regulator to be sure the measurements are correct thru a range - but you could have a point. I'll have to give it a try.

@derkchurk5879

2 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog Cool, if it helps any let us know, I would really like one of these in my collection, better yet, I wish they would release a high-end version for a few hundred bucks that would be absolutely accurate.

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

I agree;)

Okay, first time on this channel. I like seeing you teach yourself as you go, and you probably have more content that's up my alley, so thumbs up, and subscribed. But would it have killed you to spend 30 minutes alone with the device before making this, and maybe another 20 working up an outline? You're voicing a lot of half ideas, stopping mid-sentence, voicing another, then stopping. But again, definitely enjoyed this. I just bought this meter, and you've given me ideas to try.

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback - I appreciate it:)

Is it good for checking the gain on a power transistor?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

I think it is Robert, but I’m going to take a closer look. I have another device that I want to review, so I will use this guy in a comparison. Thanks for asking!

what the difference between hFE and b-gain ?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Great question Alex! I think I need to do a video to explain;) Short answer, Beta or b is equal to hfe which is small signal gain. Basically collector current is equal to base current times the beta. The beta and hfe are the same and are the small signal gain. Then hFE is large signal gain.

@alexrex4272

4 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog thanks!)

Is B=... the multipler for the base? to calculate the resistor?

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes, I think you are talking about the Beta (B), which is the gain and is used to calculate the resistors.

100mF is totally useless to me, all testers I found can't measure big caps above 100mF, I need to measure big caps. Mostly 470mF up to 1000mF and rarely I'm using the 63volt 10000mF caps and there's no way to measure those things, do you have any suggestions?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

I have had good luck with my CEM DT-9935. It will measure automatically or manually in 5 different frequencies. amzn.to/38LfvUf. I also did a video - awhile back;) but it shows this meter in action. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioR_z8WBm82YgLg.html

35:10 Frequency 0... It says that, because in that mode it is apparently a frequency counter, and not a generator. It would have been cool if this device would also be able to produce a transistor curve trace or behave as a component tester through the XY inputs of an oscilloscope. Cool seeing the Siglent 1202X scope in action... I am planning to buy the 1104XE but in the meantime I have been looking quite a lot at the specs of the 2000XE and even the new one 2000XE plus baby's, but actually.... I don't really need those... So the 1104XE will do just fine for me. Ok.

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

That 1104XE has great specs and should be an amazing scope. Let us know what you think of it once you get a chance to play;) using this link will help support this channel;) amzn.to/2w9ty8c

@NNITRED

4 жыл бұрын

Frequency and Rotary Encoder have no function.

@OndrejPopp

4 жыл бұрын

@@NNITRED Ok. Thanks.

@BlondieSL

2 жыл бұрын

@@NNITRED Even now, over 2 years later, those are still just "reserved" functions. Perhaps reserved for an upgraded version, which I've not seen to date. It might be kind of cool if it could test rotary encoders, but I use Arduino for that. Works great.

The spec says caps up to 100mF so the table on the backside is totally worthless, I would love to see you measure a big cap with it to see if it can. Put a 470mF cap on it and a 1000mF to see what happens.

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

I’ll give it a try...I’m curios too. Great price! It claim 100mF, but I’ll do a video of this up against 3 other options;) I have had good luck with my CEM DT-9935. It will measure automatically or manually in 5 different frequencies. amzn.to/38LfvUf. I also did a video - awhile back;) but it shows this meter in action. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioR_z8WBm82YgLg.html

@RicardoPenders

4 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog Thanks, it would be very helpful to me if you do the video comparing it with the 3 other meters.

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

I think I do that soon - next week;)

You dont get the frequency?When the display say 0hz with no signal in to the instrument,and you dont get it?feed the tester with a sinus signal not over the voltage instrument is made to handle and the tester tells you what frequency the signal feed to tester is.That function is to read frequensy.You demonstrate the f.generator.Bside ESR02 have never failed me.The tc 1 testers are garbage straight fro factory read and experienced 2 that broke after some minutes use.I fixed 1 of them but it failed again.Many people have problems with TC 1 also.

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

That’s great feedback - thank you! I appreciate you;)

Fuck :) Video starts out "I wonder whether this thing can do in circuit testing" - Well, that is exactly what I was looking for. Now, I have found myself a guy who made a FOURTY minute video on it, so what can possibly go wrong?! I would really hate to have to remove anything and everything from the board for my first project, so if I can avoid it... I have like a dozen transistors and rectifiers according to the datasheets I have found. My Bside will be in the mail tomorrow. Thanks!

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO! Thanks for that! I appreciate you.

Hi, the ESR02 PRO testing IGBT?

@KissAnalog

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for asking! Yes it does - I'll have to do another video showing all the things it can do;) Here's a link to it: amzn.to/3qDmbSz

Where can I get one of those mats?

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

They are great mats:). www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DGTJ463/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

are you recomended this product bside esr02pro?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think I would. It seems to do a lot for the low cost. There are a number of versions, so try to get the latest which I think is this one, the ESR02 PRO. Thanks for asking!

@kangtukang4948

4 жыл бұрын

thankyou

Would be nice if the tester can also identify the model.

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Do you mean the model of the transistor?

@8Junio76

2 жыл бұрын

​@@KissAnalog yes, displaying the model, like 2N3904.

Get a Drok transistor tester, the connection is easier, and colour screen.

@KissAnalog

5 жыл бұрын

I do like the Drok connector. Thanks, I might have to get one and compare;)

I am going to stick with the one i got that's made in the UK

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

That’s great - can you tell me what’s the make and model?

It will probably check whatever frequency you put inside it

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It is a nice tester - especially at the low cost. Do you have one?

@derkchurk5879

2 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog unfortunately I don't yet, but Mr Hetfield - master of transistors, it seems like it might be able to measure a frequency in that one setting 35:21 think I might buy one of these shortly though, it looks too good to pass up.

I had a set of probes like that. The plating was so bad I couldn't get reliable measurements. Threw them away. I've seen other problems with cheap Chinese plating. Beware.

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Zacharias thank you! I’m going to work with this and see what I get:) keep in touch...

Is that me or the video is out of focus. Start getting headache halfway through. Just bought one. Better ready after calibration. Need to use cap between 200n to 20uf for calibration.

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! How has it turned out for you?

It's not an in circuit tester ?

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Great question! I have not tried that, but the way it has to decide what it is testing, I really don't think it would work. I will try;)

@joelstolarski2244

3 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog I ended up getting the MESR 100 V2. So far it tests caps and also does resistors, as an added benefit. Small ceramic caps , like a 10, 102,103, it doesn't test. New to electronics, struggling with the math. Trying to self learn with the book "The Art of Electronics" and I'm struggling. I'm 62 and last math was in 86.

"Frequency = 0" because it doesn't do anything. It has no function on the ESR02 Pro just like "rotary encoder". Both functions are listed as "reserved" by B-side in that foldout sheet that comes with it. .

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you NNITRED for that great info! Nice little meter, I need to play with it more;)

Same guts as the 5 dollar ones why pay so much?

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

For the fancy red case:) LOL great question!

Kein Luxusgerät aber brauchbar. ESR unter 1uF sind leider unbrauchbar. Schade, besser als nichts.

@KissAnalog

5 ай бұрын

Thanks pretty cool devices at the cost

Адов прибор. ТС-1, ТС-7 гораздо функциональнее и по питанию , и по измерению.

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, I couldn't find a good translation;) Can you get these where you live - is that the problem? Thank you for your comment;)

mH oh no mHz 😂

@KissAnalog

Жыл бұрын

LOL thanks!

@anaphaxeton

Жыл бұрын

@KissAnalog the most significant digit is actually the unit! 😁

Unfortunately the test socket is so cheaply made and poor quality

@KissAnalog

4 жыл бұрын

Second First True - there is not much spring to them - very stiff.

Stop tapping the damn box.

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

LOL Sorry - I didn’t think I was tapping the box;)

@mrnelgin

3 жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog just one or 20 times lol.

@KissAnalog

3 жыл бұрын

Oops;) I’m glad you pointed that out.

lol looks like crap in 2022

@KissAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

Don't like the Bside?

@eme444

Жыл бұрын

what is better than this?

@spicky2966

Жыл бұрын

@@KissAnalog outdated firmware

Completly confused presentation.

@KissAnalog

Жыл бұрын

Sorry about that. It was early in my career here so hopefully I’m getting better.