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Is a $7 LCR Meter / Component Tester from Ebay any good?
Dave tests the M328 (LCR-T4) model component tester.
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  • @DavidChen831212
    @DavidChen8312126 жыл бұрын

    The original project name is AVR-Transistortester, opensourced firmware/schematic/documents maintained by German hacker Karl-Heinz Kübbeler.

  • @richfiles
    @richfiles6 жыл бұрын

    Testing a piezo speaker is particularly fun, as you can hear it probing at the part to determine it basically operates as a capacitor. Really interesting to get to hear it go through the motions though.

  • @noimagination99

    @noimagination99

    Жыл бұрын

    That is a great idea!

  • @danielsullivan87
    @danielsullivan876 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for looking into this! Saw the furore in the mailbag comments and it's good to see you addressing it :)

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I didn't give it a fair suck of the sav.

  • @nicholai414

    @nicholai414

    6 жыл бұрын

    EEVblog Yeah Dave, I've seen these being reviewed by other channels, I'm glad you gave it another shot since I was really waiting for your review on it before I add one to my setup. (Yours is the only channel I trust for reviews on test equipment)

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley6 жыл бұрын

    One of these is all I have for LCR meter, and it's more than good enough. All I need one for is to identify messed up electrolytics that have caused a power supply to fail. Finding an electrolytic that should be at 1 ohm ESR measuring 35 ohms is good enough.

  • @amayachannel4517

    @amayachannel4517

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Ridley same here

  • @johnconrad5487

    @johnconrad5487

    4 жыл бұрын

    how accurately does it measure inductance?

  • @WisdomVendor1
    @WisdomVendor16 жыл бұрын

    Dave, a guy with a $9000.00 rolex watch was once told by a guy that had a $3.00 digital watch "Nice wrist watch, it seems to be only a few seconds off"

  • @hashemmehyar9614

    @hashemmehyar9614

    6 жыл бұрын

    WisdomVendor1 I stopped and gazed after reading this, true !

  • @stevenbiars6212

    @stevenbiars6212

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm more of an Omega man, so I'll go with that. Rolex is overpriced -- their prices have doubled in the past few years. Anyhow, with that said, I'll give you a bit of perspective on Swiss made watches. I know a $25 quartz Timex will tell time more precisely than a $5,000+ mechanical Omega Seamaster, but I appreciate the craftsmanship that went into it. Think of it like this -- if both watches cost exactly the same amount ($25), which one would you rather own and why? I'd rather have the mechanical masterpiece because I appreciate the craftsmanship, artistry, and engineering that went into it, rather than the quartz. Perhaps you favor the electronics of the humble quartz. Nobody passes down a Timex.

  • @laurv8370

    @laurv8370

    5 жыл бұрын

    Espinosa versus Tano Cariddi? (water-wall-clock vs quartz-watch scene)

  • @explosivedude8295

    @explosivedude8295

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wrist sundial gang where ya at?

  • @dewe1462

    @dewe1462

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@explosivedude8295 nah.. prefer the wrist pendulum clock

  • @gtroc71
    @gtroc716 жыл бұрын

    Dave, you can calibrate this device by shorting all 3 test points and pushing test. After a short process will ask you to remove short and at some stage ask to install a capacitor. Would be interesting how accurate it is after that process. Thanks for the vid!

  • @SpaghettiEnterprises

    @SpaghettiEnterprises

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wait are you serious?? I've had one for a while and I never knew that! Where did you get this info?

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    it is written in the "manual" lol I used for weeks and was not getting the precise values that it was supposed to, so I checked the "manual" and there it was. Works perfectly. Have to calibrate every time and in each leads change btw

  • @SirArghPirate

    @SirArghPirate

    6 жыл бұрын

    Does that mean that the calibrated values are not stored in eeprom? It should be relatively easy to fix that..

  • @blaser80

    @blaser80

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Louis Stubbolo there are videos of people calibrating on youtube, saw them before I purchased one. Now you can get them for $10 with a case.

  • @ethanpoole3443

    @ethanpoole3443

    6 жыл бұрын

    SirArghPirate They may well be stored in eeprom, but if you are using external test leads or a different set of pads to measure your parts then each set of leads/pads will have a slightly different innate resistance, capacitance, and inductance that needs to be accounted for. It is one of those things that must be calibrated out whenever you change leads and from time to time (such as with changes in environment) even on higher end LCR meters because it does not know when you changed the leads and that new calibration coefficients are now needed, so it is ordinarily a manual process. If using external leads you would ideally use shielded leads so that the leads do not interfere with one another nor pick up external fields that can alter readings (or else keep your leads extremely short). Typically you will have several sets of test leads ranging from alligator clips to SMD tweezers, etc., for testing various types of components, hence lead changes are not uncommon during use (and at other times you may switch to using the built in pads, which would also be equivalent to a lead change). I am grateful Dave made this review as I am very impressed by the quality of the firmware and its overall capabilities. Even though I already have perfectly good transistor testers and very nice LCR meters I may still be inclined to order one or two of these in the future, preferably outfitted with a proper case for added protection just to compliment my other gear, or to loan out to others as I do not loan out my lab grade test gear.

  • @evahle
    @evahle6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing a great job running your tests on this unit. This answered many questions I had about it. Awesome!!

  • @brian9394
    @brian93946 жыл бұрын

    This is a fantastic video Dave! It brings back lots of memories of what we went through in early 90's to get PC's to function. This would be a great video to watch for any IT/Electronics 'history' course. Thanks!

  • @bitrot42
    @bitrot426 жыл бұрын

    I have that exact tester... It's true that the absolute measurements are a bit off, but it's fairly consistent when you repeat measurements, so it's great for matching components. I've used it to find the closest resistors in the pile, and to match MOSFET gain when rebuilding an amplifier. Fantastic bit of kit once you understand its capabilities and limitations.

  • @khashmeshab

    @khashmeshab

    5 жыл бұрын

    I hope you've shortened the three inputs of your device and calibrated it. Because I have the same model and after calibration, it's pretty accurate. You can also upgrade the firmware on it using the original repository, but it's a little bit tricky.

  • @Davidsmith218

    @Davidsmith218

    2 жыл бұрын

    How do you use to match mosfets Gain because I not seeing the numbers this is showing I'm trying to match irfp260n mosfets and Google is no help if I search what's on the display

  • @irishguy200007

    @irishguy200007

    Жыл бұрын

    Can this test components in a circuit without removing them?

  • @DoubleMonoLR

    @DoubleMonoLR

    Жыл бұрын

    @@irishguy200007 It will depend on the circuit, and the component being tested, as items can be in parallel etc. It's no different than with any testing.

  • @aidanfransen3571
    @aidanfransen35716 жыл бұрын

    Good to see you following up on the last vid! At least our comments do not go unnoticed :)... also good to see you giving it a fair test :)

  • @sausage5849

    @sausage5849

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like they might do in the forum though lol

  • @billallen2419
    @billallen24196 жыл бұрын

    I have had one of these for 12 months and I must say it does come in handy. Thanks for the revisit. Keep up the good work mate.

  • @cyberplant
    @cyberplant6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! Yesterday I bought one of this here, and I never thought they were 'known' in the world!! I'm pretty happy with it so far!

  • @yaidontknowwhattoput
    @yaidontknowwhattoput6 жыл бұрын

    Lcr meters are super complex. The fact that this $7 jobby can get it done is astounding.

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's ballpark LCR figure only. Real LCR's use a higher frequency and test voltage than this little device is capable of. The K-Firmware from the OSHW project has a slightly more versatile measuring funtion that requires an ATmega328, a 16MHz Xtal, a relay, and a capacitor to add a Sampling ADC method.

  • @iceberg789

    @iceberg789

    6 жыл бұрын

    is it too complex ?

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    iceberg789 Ok... detailed answer it is... As a hobbyist I have been researching this project thoroughly for the last month, and I've been posting none monotized info on YT and the EEVBlog thread. (I couldn't care less if you check out what I've done so far,.. just saying it's there/I'm no EE/here's my citation of what I've researched so far) I recall Markus R. -The Project Developer of the official M-firmware, said that the LCR limitation is due to the input/output limitations of the microcontroller. You need a more powerful signal at a higher frequency and most importantly a faster ADC. The internal ADC of the AVR MCU is the primary limitation factor in this device and the code has to wait on the ADC to catch up in several places. Even with an additional frequency ic and buffer circuit, the AVR MCU can't work fast enough for all channels. There are other OSHW projects that use an AVR MCU to create a more accurate LCR by dedicating everything to the task, at least so I've read and posted about within the last 10 pages on the EEVBlog thread. This AVR TT project has already moved on to the ATmega644/1284/2560 because there is no more room in the 328's flash/eeprom with the popular auxillary options enabled. There are no clones available for the V2 project but there are DIY files for all versions of the project if you want a real AVR Transistor Tester instead of a cheap substandard design (says the guy that bought a clone...then started researching it). This project actually started with an ATmega8, and grew to the 88, 168, and 328, because the firmware grew and grew over the years since 2009. It's already optimized between C and Assembly as well. The Devs are not inexperienced amateurs. The real project hardware development is actually based in the Russian thread. A lot of the communication between them and the devs is direct. The Russian's have a larger online presence of skilled engineers that like to post about their DIY projects much more than the English speaking community. Thus their 406 page thread versus the English 160 pages, (both are about the same size per page). The software is primarily on the German side with M-Firmware on the EEVBlog thread as well. This isn't some simple device that has room to improve, hundreds of people have already added their professional touches and suggestions to get the project to where it is today. This project is designed to have stupid-simple hardware (that ALL of the clones screw up) and extreme level software. The only way to really understand the entire project is if you speak fluent German, Russian, and English. Unfortunately, Google Translate sucks at Russian. This is why I created the image indexes for all of the forums (still working on Russian). Schematics are universal as are pictures of interesting hardware. By attempting to show you all of the images as quickly as you can visually register them I'm trying to help people search for what they want to research further using a translation program without attempting to read the whole thread like I am trying to do. I add almost all images with their page number referenced to these videos. Again, these are not monotized, and never will be. It's just something I am doing to share my notes as I explore the project.

  • @iceberg789

    @iceberg789

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks for all of that, i will now need some time to digest all that.

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    iceberg789 I don't mind explaining what you don't understand. I'm just a few years into learning this stuff myself. These links are to posts where other people smarter than myself explain the LCR/ESR measurement capabilities of the device. 1. www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/$20-lcr-esr-transistor-checker-project/msg530451/#msg530451 2. www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/$20-lcr-esr-transistor-checker-project/msg195402/#msg195402 3. www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/$20-lcr-esr-transistor-checker-project/msg1050001/#msg1050001 4. www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/$20-lcr-esr-transistor-checker-project/msg432772/#msg432772 Post w/links to other DIY dedicated LCR projects: 5. www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/$20-lcr-esr-transistor-checker-project/msg526087/#msg526087 Some of the earlier info may be outdated as far as the specific limitations of the device. The functionality like test frequency are the things to focus on in these posts. Also the forum user named "Madires" is one of the two actual firmware developers. No one is more knowledgeable about the device than him. Of course all of this assumes you understand things like ADC= Analogue to Digital Converter and how these devices operate (I like Bill Herd's explanation of ADC's on HackaDay ;)

  • @Stefan_Payne
    @Stefan_Payne6 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see that you made an additional video about that device, thumbs up. Oh and what you want with that is to test, if the component you put in is OK or not and if the replacement part is somewhat close to the original part.

  • @ChristianRThomas

    @ChristianRThomas

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's a very good idea. Sometimes you want components with some element of shittiness, like ESR, when you come to replace them during a repair. Or if a salvaged part is even worth keeping or if it falls below even lash-up standards.

  • @PeteBlakemore
    @PeteBlakemore6 жыл бұрын

    Good on you Dave, learning as you go and not afraid to admit it!

  • @bkbaxterNYnowIN
    @bkbaxterNYnowIN5 жыл бұрын

    Definitely enjoyed this video. Informative and thorough, but also very approachable and fun to watch/listen to. Besides, it's good to know that the very similar component tester I recently ordered might be quite useful and reasonably accurate. It really is amazing what $7 can get you these days.

  • @SidneyCritic
    @SidneyCritic6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing a follow-up and correcting the Mailbag vid. Info like this on cheap stuff is invaluable to us small part-time hobbyists because we simply can't afford expensive stuff or can't warrant expensive for such low use.

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd6 жыл бұрын

    Many of these units also offer a way to calibrate them and once done are pretty much bang on. Some of the software versions also offer more accuracy depending on the external ADC being used onboard. I have a couple of these units and they come in really handy for testing salvaged parts or doing basic transistor or mosfet matching.

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson6 жыл бұрын

    I have owned one of these for about 3 years now. Two years back I picked up one of those DIY Kit mini oscilloscope and put it together on the booth table of our RV. To sort out the parts for the kit I used my version (A bit more developed then yours) to sort the parts for assembly. It did a great job. Since I rarely use surface mount, I have soldered alligator clips on the pads so I can hook to parts that do not fit nicely in the plug deal. I use it very often and it has always done a great job for me.

  • @LydellAaron
    @LydellAaron5 жыл бұрын

    Your tone of voice suggests that you are genuinely impressed with this product! I am very impressed and will likely buy one too. Thank you for sharing!

  • @srduke
    @srduke5 жыл бұрын

    I know I'm late to the party but I've got one of these and it's perfect, as you say, for checking pin outs on transistors etc. Certainly a lot quicker than trawling the net for data sheets. I also use it for checking that LEDs are working before soldering them to a pcb.

  • @FindLiberty
    @FindLiberty6 жыл бұрын

    I've had mine for several months; *cute!* _...added a power switch to prevent any parasitic sucking juice out of the 9v battery._

  • @aklef

    @aklef

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same!

  • @0xbenedikt

    @0xbenedikt

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's nice, although these devices have such a small parastic draw, that it is practically unnecessairy.

  • @IrishSkruffles

    @IrishSkruffles

    6 жыл бұрын

    I didn't have a spare 9V battery around so I used two 18650s in series, seems to work well so far :)

  • @John_Ridley

    @John_Ridley

    6 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the version you got. There were some versions that would kill a 9V battery in a couple of months or less.

  • @1djbecker

    @1djbecker

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have several versions. Even ones that are powered by a AA-sized lithium cell have the bad design of a resistive voltage divider before the power switch. That version mitigates the problem by a mechanical power switch and, of course, being able to recharge the battery.

  • @JustinDrentlaw
    @JustinDrentlaw5 жыл бұрын

    I really need one of these in my life. Awesome bit of kit.

  • @julianblow4739
    @julianblow47396 жыл бұрын

    I'm putting the acrylic case on mine as I watch this video. Thanks EEV, great buy for the budget

  • @stephtronix1811
    @stephtronix18116 жыл бұрын

    I recycle hold electronic parts and i really like that meter. It makes it faster to identify the components so i can class them where they belong :)

  • @Allan-mf1he

    @Allan-mf1he

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey please do share some of your projects.

  • @MrMikeEdie
    @MrMikeEdie6 жыл бұрын

    I love it. So much I bought one. Not disappointed. It rocks!!! Cheers!

  • @GraemeWoller
    @GraemeWoller6 жыл бұрын

    That was REALLY frigging interesting, bro. Awesome!

  • @johnlansing2902
    @johnlansing29024 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a great addition to the toolbox

  • @entidade1000
    @entidade10004 жыл бұрын

    lol it costs R$150 (usd 40) on average here in Brazil. You can get a Fluke multimeter for the same price range here too. Strange economics.

  • @entidade1000

    @entidade1000

    4 жыл бұрын

    A A ill definitely check that out. Even if they tax me 200% it’s still a bargain

  • @aszi77
    @aszi776 жыл бұрын

    If you press and hold the button a menu comes up with a number of functions including in-circuit ESR measurement for capacitors (without having to press the button each time), very useful.

  • @danielsaranovic9580

    @danielsaranovic9580

    6 жыл бұрын

    Did u test the in-circuit ESR measurement ? What are the results is it really a 0.01 ohm resolution (or 0.1 Ohm depending on the version) ?

  • @edmart3778
    @edmart377810 ай бұрын

    6:31 From product manual: "The turn-on or turn-off voltage of the mosfet must be less than 5V, otherwise the measured result is only its equivalent parameters (diodes, capacitors, etc.)."

  • @tomaszkulawinski6388
    @tomaszkulawinski63886 жыл бұрын

    Huge thumbs up and purchased item before video ended... nice job Dave :) thanks

  • @pasixty6510
    @pasixty65105 жыл бұрын

    Although considering the (shown) weaknesses of this device, you get a considerably good tester for an unbeatable price. We absolutely don't talk about high end precision in this class of pricing or manufacturing. In most cases the precision of the device is good enough to help you find out what you have plugged into the socket. Me and my friends ordered those from China. We like them.

  • @tohopes
    @tohopes6 жыл бұрын

    Great! Now ship it to Big Clive so he can draw pictures and make it explode.

  • @agentsmith3577

    @agentsmith3577

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think he has one, or I might just be thinking of Julian Ilett

  • @EngineeringVignettes

    @EngineeringVignettes

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agent Smith - I know Julian has one for sure - Eddy

  • @sausage5849

    @sausage5849

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yep, thought that was pretty good at the time I saw it too

  • @petti78

    @petti78

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure Julian has a ton of these. Just because. :)

  • @markg735

    @markg735

    6 жыл бұрын

    msylvain59 uses one of these frequently in his teardowns.

  • @fuentescgabriel
    @fuentescgabriel6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you VERY MUCH for this review.

  • @mlynch001
    @mlynch0016 жыл бұрын

    These are amazing devices for the price. As a Component identifier, tester, looking for "Gross" failures, it is a winner. Helped me fix a couple of failed TM500 series plug-ins, so more than paid for itself. Thanks for another honest review. This is why we come here.

  • @bveina
    @bveina6 жыл бұрын

    We've just outfitted all our labs at my university with a variant of these. We use them as pinout checkers and magic smoke detectors. Saves tons of time helping students. I've also grabbed a 74xx chip tester for logic gates; same reason, check for the magic smoke.(no kid your chip isn't bad, you wiring is)

  • @Mythricia1988

    @Mythricia1988

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh I didn't know there were 74 series testers like that. I certainly could use one, because my wiring often is bad!

  • @bveina

    @bveina

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mythricia I've found two different models neither works for 100 percent of the series but they work well enough, and can be found from the usual overseas sources

  • @gorak9000

    @gorak9000

    6 жыл бұрын

    You still use discrete 7400 logic chips? Heh, I TA'ed that class twice at 2 different universities, the second time it was all schematic capture and small fpga dev boards, and that was a number of years ago!

  • @Mythricia1988

    @Mythricia1988

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, as a hobbyist I rarely do things because they are practical or useful, using elementary logic is a lot more fun than just another microcontroller.

  • @noweare1

    @noweare1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nope

  • @Edu_RJR
    @Edu_RJR6 жыл бұрын

    this was quick, I knew a lot of people would comment on this one, other electronic youtubers regularly use these

  • @zalmaflash

    @zalmaflash

    6 жыл бұрын

    I use mine all the time. It works fine for what it is. This isn't NASA.

  • @666Tomato666

    @666Tomato666

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah, well, Dave really didn't give it a proper chance in the previous video Very glad to see him own it up and do a proper test of it

  • @victornpb

    @victornpb

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah exactly, this is a componente identifier/tester, it is not a lab grade component characterizer. What people expect from a 7 dollar gadget...

  • @chrisakaschulbus4903

    @chrisakaschulbus4903

    6 жыл бұрын

    thats normal thinking of modern people... it's like comaparing 200 dollar to some 20 dollar speakers and saying, that it it's automatically crap, just because it's not as good... it seems like people don't get price/performance

  • @BloodAsp
    @BloodAsp6 жыл бұрын

    I was literally just skimming through the mail bag and saw this at the end get tossed off. I don't have one, but I was surprised it was not known of, and at that minute I got the notification of this video. Good video!

  • @austinbartose6527
    @austinbartose65274 жыл бұрын

    That’s pretty sweet. I could us3 this at work quite effectively

  • @SnarkyPosters
    @SnarkyPosters6 жыл бұрын

    Great now I'm buying another thing shown on this channel. That $25 multimeter works great. Thanks Dave.

  • @EngineeringVignettes

    @EngineeringVignettes

    6 жыл бұрын

    SnarkyPosters - It's ok... i got the multimeter too. It _is_ pretty good tho... - Eddy

  • @ncdave4life

    @ncdave4life

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have a Victor VC921, which is auto-ranging, *_very_* portable, runs on two AAA batteries, shuts off automatically to save the batteries, and is nicely protected in a strong hard-shell. The leads are a bit short, but, other than that, I like it a lot, and it's available on eBay for around $11, shipped: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=VICTOR+VC921

  • @matthewbolen7599
    @matthewbolen75996 жыл бұрын

    i've have the same exact one you showed there for about 6 months now....i salvage alot of parts.....this thing is the best tester in my shop when it comes to figuring out exactly what surface mount component i'm saving......

  • @ChristianRThomas

    @ChristianRThomas

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like it's time to buy a second one. :)

  • @matthewbolen7599

    @matthewbolen7599

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol....i didn't see my mistype.... *fixed it*

  • @WackyT08
    @WackyT08 Жыл бұрын

    Have been using one of those for about the past 4 years, and it's been solid. Love it.

  • @SNAKERADIOS
    @SNAKERADIOS5 жыл бұрын

    I use this every day it is close enough for what i do . Thank you

  • @Inspironator
    @Inspironator6 жыл бұрын

    If I had the money for all the accurate test equipment, then I would be one of the 2 percent. This kind of tester is a great deal for the majority of hobbyists. But, these should have a data sheet that tells their measurement range for different types of components. If they can spend the time to tweak the firmware, they can document and provide that document to compete head to head with the others.

  • @galileo_rs
    @galileo_rs6 жыл бұрын

    Get a version with a socketed atmega. Read the original documentation: www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/AVR_Transistortester. Pop in a 16Mhz crystal, replace the voltage reference ($2 directly from TI) and flash the latest firmware. It will measure sub pF and nH easily and fairly accurately.

  • @joeyscott4299
    @joeyscott42995 жыл бұрын

    Cool!!! Thanks for the vid ! I'm going to order one of these guys

  • @rickgoebel6724
    @rickgoebel67246 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing that you can get so much for so little. Thanks Dave for doing this video.

  • @ElmerFuddGun
    @ElmerFuddGun6 жыл бұрын

    *I knew you would get "attacked" in the mailbag video for this!* LOL...

  • @itsaustraliadayeveryday7234
    @itsaustraliadayeveryday72343 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha "I'm not going to quibble over that?" yeh right Dave.

  • @ik04
    @ik045 жыл бұрын

    I have three of these. One was assembled and two were kits. They work flawlessly!

  • @soucevit
    @soucevit6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave, thanks for video about this tester. I bought one about year ago. It was also marketed as capable of in circuit measurement. I used it to troubleshoot faulty caps in power supplies and various faulty circuits. Until last week. In one cheap powerbrick, there was capacitor and diode combination on the output. One of these pulses this tester sends to tested component posibly came back with higher amplitude, or maybe capacitor was charged. Anyway by my lazines not to remove capacitor for measuring, ATMEGA8 is fried, while there is no isolation between component and procesor. So maybe this device is too simple. But anyway it bringed me lot of help with good/bad component troubleshooting.

  • @mik99D
    @mik99D4 жыл бұрын

    "Go. No go" That's an engineering measure one does not hear often.

  • @Dansk55
    @Dansk554 жыл бұрын

    "It calibrates easily with shorting the three leads, then you'd need a ~10nF and a ~20pF capacitors, and it's done"

  • @ryancl03
    @ryancl036 жыл бұрын

    thanks for reviewing this, been meaning to buy one...

  • @PiccsChannel
    @PiccsChannel6 жыл бұрын

    Nice, totally picking one of these up

  • @victornpb
    @victornpb6 жыл бұрын

    Prices rising in 3, 2, 1...

  • @cbm80amiga

    @cbm80amiga

    6 жыл бұрын

    In Banggood this DMM is still at $17 in promo. Only eBay sellers rised prices.

  • @teslatrooper

    @teslatrooper

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered one for ~€5.50 so I guess it didn't happen that fast. Useful little device especially once you replace some of the clone parts for higher precision ones.

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    No clone meets the minimum system design of the project. AKA clones are junk...

  • @John_Ridley

    @John_Ridley

    6 жыл бұрын

    That mainly happens with used equipment, not new.

  • @CodeAsm

    @CodeAsm

    6 жыл бұрын

    prices drop ;)

  • @gtb81.
    @gtb81.6 жыл бұрын

    For 7.00 dollars, that's just brilliant, fricking brilliant

  • @petti78
    @petti786 жыл бұрын

    I've used one very successfully to test dodgy electrolytics in various things and just checking if salvaged parts are reasonably good before putting them into the parts bin for possible use later. And it's just FUN!

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi6 жыл бұрын

    These things are a MUST HAVE for anyone doing entry level repair for stuff like car amplifiers or power supplies Mine's a bit more expensive and its got a frequency generator/counter too.

  • @troywinterbourn564
    @troywinterbourn5646 жыл бұрын

    Nice save .

  • @that1electrician

    @that1electrician

    6 жыл бұрын

    Troy Winterbourn nice smile

  • @AttilaAsztalos
    @AttilaAsztalos6 жыл бұрын

    The thing is, 99.9% of the time 100 people out of 100 don't need to know the value of a component with any precision whatsoever, other then it being an actually functional part of the right kind, with a value on the order of magnitude you thought it was of.

  • @jasejj

    @jasejj

    6 жыл бұрын

    Attila Asztalos Exactly, when was the last time a hobbyist or repair tech needed to know a value to any greater accuracy than 10% in reality? $7 device = good enough for Australia, or anywhere else for that matter.

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    A repair tech might actually need precision. But hobbyists? Just knowing more or less what the component value is will almost always be enough!

  • @juliusvalentinas

    @juliusvalentinas

    6 жыл бұрын

    You don't need precision if all you build is LED clink circuits and alike. Shit tools makes same quality things.

  • @uK8cvPAq

    @uK8cvPAq

    6 жыл бұрын

    This. Also when I measure capacitors all I'm really looking for is if the capacitor is ok or needs to be replaced, the ESR and capacitance readings on this do the job just fine (after calibration).

  • @Soupie62

    @Soupie62

    5 жыл бұрын

    I must be the 0.1% - I'm looking to test [and measure! ] hand-wound coils and transformers.

  • @Jilocasindragon
    @Jilocasindragon6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being positively surprise and not shredding it to pieces beforehand :-) I know you can be a bit focused on high-pricy and heavy equipment at times. But for everyone who just started with electronics, this seems like a nice allround starter thingy until one can afford a proper meter.

  • @kevincozens6837
    @kevincozens68376 жыл бұрын

    A while ago I bought one of the versions with a character based LCD display as I preferred its DUT connection method over one that uses a ZIF socket. I wasn't expecting it to be a precision device. Certainly handy to provide some basic information on the drawers full of miscellaneous transistors that I have acquired over the years.

  • @marcc3516
    @marcc35164 жыл бұрын

    if you connect leads 1, 2, and 3 together and press the test button, does yours run a calibration dialog?

  • @Elektrobastler

    @Elektrobastler

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mine does, tried to measure an apparently fried thyristor that was fully conducting in any direction and it hopped into calib Mode.

  • @UpcycleElectronics
    @UpcycleElectronics6 жыл бұрын

    The AVR Transistor Tester project was started by Markus Frejek, Karl-Heinz Kübbeler, and the parallel firmware is done by Markus R. (Aka Madires) on the forum. The project is OSHW and is designed for you to build yourself. The Chinese clones are just substandard copies. None of the clones meet the minimum required specs from the documentation.

  • @mad_bad_cat

    @mad_bad_cat

    6 жыл бұрын

    Upcycle Electronics can you please link to that documentation so I can follow the instructions to build one for myself?

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    MadComputerHal PDF Documentation from May 2017 (extracted from tarball and hosted for download): www.avrtester.tode.cz/upload/ttester_en.pdf Project Home Page: www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/AVR_Transistortester GNU Tarball Server: www.mikrocontroller.net/svnbrowser/transistortester/ GIT Hub Copy of SVN Repo Server github.com/svn2github/transistortester/

  • @electr0maker436
    @electr0maker4362 жыл бұрын

    I really love the Mtester I have for a couple reasons. 1. It can auto identify transistor polarity and pinout, which is very useful for unknown components. 2. It can do inductance to some degree, which for a cheap device like this is invaluable. As a beginner myself I would fully recommend any beginner get one of these, especially if they can afford better test gear like me. The only quibble I have is that the socket is relatively fragile.

  • @RijuChatterjee
    @RijuChatterjee3 жыл бұрын

    I did not know these existed, this is so frikin cool! I'm just recently learning that there is such a thing as open source hardware... fascinating and for some reason gives me a warm fuzzy feeling

  • @khronscave
    @khronscave6 жыл бұрын

    15:04 In AvE parlance, that would be a "sore dick deal" (ie. "can't be beat")...

  • @GpanosXP
    @GpanosXP6 жыл бұрын

    10:09 The body diode seems upside down. But it got it right the previous time.

  • @boggisthecat

    @boggisthecat

    6 жыл бұрын

    GpanosXP Good catch. I have two Chinese variants on these (cases, colour displays) and they can do some odd things like this. If you consider these devices to be quick-check component verification then they're perfectly usable. Where you really want to nail things down then you're going to have to break out serious tools, or spend a lot of time and effort. These would also be good projects for fiddling with, in themselves.

  • @dtrrtd774

    @dtrrtd774

    6 жыл бұрын

    The orientation when you place it in the socket makes the difference. It bugs me to see, but it doesn't really matter as long as it identifies the drain and source pins correctly, which it does. The Daniu tester I bought for $30 doesn't have any errors that I know of; it's a more polished product but at 4x the price. Seeing the limitations makes me appreciate the more expensive item more; I bought that one first but then got a couple of the less expensive ones based on the low cost, thinking they'd be essentially the same, but it's not.

  • @hosseinhayati9820
    @hosseinhayati98206 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing :) Ordered one ;)

  • @ciprianwinerElectronicManiac
    @ciprianwinerElectronicManiac6 жыл бұрын

    This great because I wanted to get one of these soon. Here it costs almost 20$. Thanks for sharing. Cheers:)

  • @SODA-iz8lc
    @SODA-iz8lc6 жыл бұрын

    Mine got a frequency tester and generator in as well. Just keep on pressing the button for about 5 sec and the menu will open.

  • @stevejones8665
    @stevejones86656 жыл бұрын

    Yes Those German's who Bombed our Chippy,s did an absolutely fantastic job with the firmware and software development for this device . Thumbs up and hats off to them. .It can also be re programmed with the latest software...Also they are very accurate when calibrated first...

  • @WS-gw5ms
    @WS-gw5ms6 жыл бұрын

    This is cool AF. I need one of these for when I take apart old electronics.

  • @vaultdweller2511
    @vaultdweller25116 жыл бұрын

    I have a similar one (but with a somewhat different firmware). For the price a surprisingly useful tool for identifying pinouts or function of recycled semiconductors.

  • @SnarkyPosters
    @SnarkyPosters6 жыл бұрын

    Anyone got a link to a good one on Aliexpress?

  • @peekpt
    @peekpt6 жыл бұрын

    You can calibrate it short the 3 pin

  • @TheDrQuake

    @TheDrQuake

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thats not enough. Exact procedure desribed in project manual mentioned there many times.

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    ...but there's more.... In the official PDF the ATmega644/1284 Schematic shows the option to add a auto calibration feature using 2 spare pins, a 100nF capacitor and a 470k resistor. Others have suggested using a single pin to control a double pole relay that achieves the same thing by connecting the calibration circuit.

  • @rodneyalan6441
    @rodneyalan64416 жыл бұрын

    A most interesting idea. Just got an LCR meter but this would certainly help as eyesight starts to get tested on smaller coponents

  • @AdrianSchwizgebel
    @AdrianSchwizgebel6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! Had to buy one right away!

  • @stclairstclair

    @stclairstclair

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me too, I just got one and used it to assemble my DSO138 kit, It made the job a snap!

  • @stonent
    @stonent6 жыл бұрын

    I'd be tempted to try things like two diodes together, 1 to 2 and 2 to 3, connecting parts of logic gates just to see what it does.

  • @nrdesign1991

    @nrdesign1991

    6 жыл бұрын

    Two diodes work, e.g. a bi-color LED in 2- and 3-pin configuration

  • @airthrow

    @airthrow

    6 жыл бұрын

    stonent it's actually really fun to see what they can and cannot identify. Linear voltage regulators, no dice, which isnt surprising really

  • @stonent

    @stonent

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I suspect they don't put out very much voltage in order to lower the risk of damaging something. So it may not be enough anyway to power up a 7805 fully. Maybe 7803 might trigger something.

  • @dtrrtd774

    @dtrrtd774

    6 жыл бұрын

    The higher cost version can test a 30V Zener too, which the $7 one won't be capable of.

  • @alien8r33d
    @alien8r33d6 жыл бұрын

    These ZIF sockets never actually say 'TEXTOOL'. If you look closely you notice that one of the letter 'O's has been changed, usually to a D or a Q.

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    6 жыл бұрын

    LOL! Didn't notice that

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Some people on the forums have said they had these fail. I don't know if the real ones create the same kind of stress for the pins that attach the ZIF socket, but the copy I have creates a lot of movement and stress on the pins/PCB/pads. Place the loose ZIF socket on a PCB, and try to hold it in place while pulling the lever. It really wants to move around with considerable force.

  • @Knaeckebrotsaege

    @Knaeckebrotsaege

    6 жыл бұрын

    On all of the ones I've seen so far it always says TFXTDOL ... the one in this video included :D

  • @UpcycleElectronics

    @UpcycleElectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Howard That's what I assumed as well. It looks to me like the pins have some leverage motion to them as well. It practically guarantees long term problems of lifting pads/traces, especially with inexperienced diy'ers and flux core solder alone.

  • @userPrehistoricman

    @userPrehistoricman

    6 жыл бұрын

    My transistortester came with a 3M socket, no textool marking. I can't remember but it may have also had moving PCB pins

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson6 жыл бұрын

    I picked one of these up a couple of years ago. She is a bit more refined then the one you reviewed, but not that much better..At any rate, two winters ago I got one of those little oscilloscope kits, complete with case and all. So, being in our Motor Home, some 1500 miles Southwest from my shop, I decided to assemble the kit on the booth of our RV, using a 5 volt portable soldering iron and that device identifier to sort and install the parts according to the chenglish almost instruction sheet, (Thank GOD it had photos of how it went together!) Well it never did work right, I guess, until last fall when I was typing my problem into a forum and read my own text, in which I discovered the problem. The rotary encoder was bad, I ordered in a new on, and now the little Oscope works just fine. A bit late because I had ordered a bit better kit, well larger not sure how much better, and have that one working like a champ as well, also using the little parts ID to sort the resistors instead of straining my old eyes trying to id those damn green-blue resistors that mask the true color of the bands. The second one came without a case so I ordered one separately. The outfit had to send me 3 damn cases before I got one that was not missing parts, or broken in shipment! I am a bit particular about such things even if it takes 30 days for the damn packages to get here from China.

  • @topeye4202
    @topeye42025 ай бұрын

    The inventors are: Markus Frejek and Karl-Heinz Kübbeler

  • @AxelWerner
    @AxelWerner6 жыл бұрын

    As you Said, there are hundred Models Out there, Not everyone is good. Not everyone is Software upgradeable. So which Version ist Worth buying if one needs a good esr Meter and what is hackable/ upgradeable???!

  • @SONOFAZOMBIE2025

    @SONOFAZOMBIE2025

    6 жыл бұрын

    Axel Werner also interested.

  • @uK8cvPAq

    @uK8cvPAq

    6 жыл бұрын

    If you need a good ESR meter than I would just go for an official ESR tester. These things are good but its really easy to accidentally kill them with a charged capacitor and sometimes long test leads can make the ESR test vary wildly.

  • @jonandersonmd7994

    @jonandersonmd7994

    5 жыл бұрын

    today ebay showed one for $2.42 .. but i didnt notice if that was Aussie$ or USD's ... If it's Aussie, then the USD price would be .. lemme thing: ya, they have to put $1 in the package for you ... !!

  • @ooltimu
    @ooltimu6 жыл бұрын

    Can't believe Dave is impressed by a Chinese diy kit :)))

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm impressed by what the firmware is capable of

  • @robbyxp1

    @robbyxp1

    6 жыл бұрын

    It does have German Software in it ;-)

  • @voldy3565

    @voldy3565

    5 жыл бұрын

    oh shut up

  • @greekstraycats
    @greekstraycats Жыл бұрын

    Found this about history (instructables): Ideas behind this kit is started in 2009 by Markus Frejek as a thread on a forum. Later (in 2012) Karl-Heinz Kübbeler started to work on the project. this project continued to be more known, it was implemented in various forms over the time. Some enthusiasts have made it on breadboard, some have designed their own PCB's, single or dual layer; with thru-hole or SMD components... and so on. Also, over the time, have appeared variants with graphic display. The original diagram released by Markus in 2009 is what they still use 2023... There just some optimizations about 9V battery power supply and other displays. Original display was a HD44780 16x2 LCD.

  • @dardosordi
    @dardosordi6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave, it was great!

  • @djtoddles8750
    @djtoddles87505 жыл бұрын

    Can this thing test ICs, like a 555 timer or other small ICs like a a 4011 nand gate or 4049 hex inverter for example? btw Dave, thanks for another bang on video. Yahoo seriously mate, turn up the ride and throw another shrimp on the barbie, b/c this vlog makes me smile more than a vegemite sandwich, just bang on mate. (I would have added "that's not a knife ... now THIS is a knife," but no one under 40 would get the reference)

  • @steve42lawson

    @steve42lawson

    5 жыл бұрын

    No.

  • @ChipGuy
    @ChipGuy6 жыл бұрын

    The first idea was mentioned in Elektor Magazine in April 2005 and used a PIC processor AFAIK. It never took off, because of some dumb issues it had. Aparently all these chinese ones originated from a second design first posted on the german forum microcontroller.net. That is something like your EEVBlog forum, but much smaller since it's main language is german. www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/AVR_Transistortester

  • @screengames5307
    @screengames53076 жыл бұрын

    500K Congrats!

  • @stijnbagin
    @stijnbagin6 жыл бұрын

    I have one of these too. Pretty good imo. Tests just about anything and it is pretty accurate. Cool for troubleshooting in circuit too. Just watch out for those loaded capacitors.

  • @EngiMeer
    @EngiMeer5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Dave! I'm doing a cool new mod kit for this already handy little device ! Here are a few of my ideas : 1) bin the 9v battery and the 7805 (I'll just hit em with hot air and wipe them off) then fit a nice lithium ion battery pack and a regulated charging board with a micro usb connection . 2) I've already 3d printed a really nice case for it which is much thinner so much more 'nerd shirt pocket friendly!' o_O 3) Modify the firmware! Why? Because I can! .lol Seriously though ... Although this is a great bit of kit AS-IS outta the box, I have found some discrepancies between my expensive proper equipment and this little gadget , of course! What do you expect for only $12 or less ??? They (we?) are already making this little Atmel stand on it's head and do tricks ! It takes quite a bit of m0jO to do all those a/d / d/a routines to work those FETs to get some great sampling nearly maxing out the capability of this little Atmel's resolution .. With that being said, I have gone over the code and patched it here and there to be a bit more accurate in some spots.. ;) Mainly, with the FET's and the gain! Resistors, caps , didoes, and general NPN or PNP transistors seem to be testing fairly accurate ... but as you know some FETs are sensitive lil buggers.... 4) Other ideas that may or may not ever be implemented, but. I'm just tossing them out there to see what people might think would make it a bit better ! (Please post /share your own ideas on how it may be improved in the comments below) : 4a) Perhaps shitbin the whole board and lcd display design and just make a whole new much smaller PCB with just enough space to fit the atmel , the few support components , the zif socket and smd test pad .. and wire up a touch screen TFT display along with a micro SD slot so you may be able to store certain data on the components you test .. For example: you may want to test a bunch of FET's and perhaps pair them with others of similar gain .. or perhaps for quality control of some sort ie: run through a batch of parts and perhaps calculate a mean value of those that are within spec or tolerance and alert you if the next one you test is a bit off ... 4b) add wifi capability to the design so you may interface with your pc or other device to acquire and store that data in a database for whatever reason a tech or engineer may see fit for whatever reason ........... 4c) Perhaps expand the zif socket size to at least 18 pins and along with the wifi interface as mentioned above, implemented,.. Perhaps be able to flash microcontrollers with a bin over wifi from your pc or other device! Just a few ideas I'mm tossing out there... let me know what you think ..... Cheers, Kixxy o_O

  • @Zodosh1

    @Zodosh1

    4 жыл бұрын

    And there goes the $7 price point

  • @DeeegerD
    @DeeegerD6 жыл бұрын

    Been around for years. Dave's late to the party ;)

  • @learnelectronics

    @learnelectronics

    6 жыл бұрын

    Digger D hey...I know you

  • @KissAnalog
    @KissAnalog5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing product for the price!!!

  • @andisetiyawan1292
    @andisetiyawan12924 жыл бұрын

    I love your explaining

  • @GeorgeGraves
    @GeorgeGraves6 жыл бұрын

    How the heck did you miss the 8th all-time most popular thread on your own forum? Part of me thinks this is a ruse.

  • @domino52o26

    @domino52o26

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nope, he's just a self unaware, pretentious snob

  • @Vinnidict
    @Vinnidict6 жыл бұрын

    What happens if you test a component tester with another component tester?

  • @stclairstclair

    @stclairstclair

    6 жыл бұрын

    that how they make babies.

  • @darrelldarrell1447

    @darrelldarrell1447

    5 жыл бұрын

    They will cancel each other out.

  • @lawrencel3188

    @lawrencel3188

    5 жыл бұрын

    It starts a new Big Bang

  • @lousmith84
    @lousmith844 жыл бұрын

    I like this one, it works well for what I do, simple and cheap is sometimes the best solution. thanks coiltec.

  • @renekenshin6573
    @renekenshin65735 жыл бұрын

    I know this video is a year old now, but after watching this, I finally bought one which comes with a neat transparent case. I must say, this device is very helpful for me. I use it to measure capacitance and pin-outs of multi-pinned variable capacitors, also to test diodes and transistors which i can't identify. A very neat device for such a cheap price. A must have for technicians and electronic beginners. Thanks or this video Dave

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