BSD Revolution Planetary Freecoaster Hub Review and Dissection!
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The BSD Revolution Planetary Freecoaster, is the hub that feels like a cassette hub, weighs the same as a cassette hub, has a pedal gap like a cassette hub and sounds like a cassette hub. Phu Vu over at (@_epicbmx) dissects the new game changing freecoaster and gives you a breakdown of the anatomy, components, technology, strengths and weaknesses!
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BSD Revolution Planetary Freecoaster Hub Review and Dissection!
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING GUYS!!
@liamrankin1263
3 жыл бұрын
So glad you did a video on this! Also happy thanksgiving Alf!
@cfmechanic
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks alf means alot happy Thanksgiving from my family to yours.
@antoniosandoval3668
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for everything and happy thanksgiving to you I’ll Send you some turkey😂😂
@lukehaynes230
3 жыл бұрын
i love epic bmx i went ther couple days ago
@kosarr6832
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alf for teaching him how to pronounce the cassette)
I got my BSD Revolution wheel the other week, and I have to say, the hype is REAL. Only thing more that I would've wanted from it would've been a female axle option, but regardless, it still rendered every other freecoaster almost instantly obsolete.
@timcollier5387
3 жыл бұрын
Great post! 👍 I completely agree with this. Doesn't having a female axle work best for riders that slam their wheel in the dropouts so they don't have to break their chain to service the back wheel? (That's a nightmare in itself for some riders) Plus having dropouts with a integrated chain tensioner through the dropouts can cause pinching threads on the hub axle itself. Ride more, work on your bike less.
@Mish2353
3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't work as a female axle because of the amount of pressure the driver needs to actually work like he explained in the video. With females axles there's no way to tighten the outside cone so it simply wouldn't be tight enough for the mechanism to work
@cadillacctsv6122
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mish2353 please elaborate??
@The_Whitest_One
5 ай бұрын
@@Mish2353 there are female axles from BSD for it aftermarket
A mate of mine is lending me his wheel with one of these. I'd never ridden a coaster before, and ive seen how much slack others have and it's always kinda scared me. These are amazing, it feels just like a cassette, till you wanna fakie. Nearly no slack at all.
I love tech thursday
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Stoked you dig them!
@companionbmx404
3 жыл бұрын
Sameeee
love the in depth information and differences about that hubs. Ride safe , and also prayers for your brother alf 🙏
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support my dude
thanks alf for this review. and happy thanks giving ya'll
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Happy thanksgiving my dude! Glad you liked the review!
I love my Free Night!
Now that’s an amazing hub might have to cop it.
Eastern Ezra hubs had the same mechanism for converting the cassette to a free coaster. Planetary went beyond and made a new clutch system.
@williambodger551
Жыл бұрын
the eastern ezra is so under represented i feel like no one knows about it but it was one of the pioneering freecoasters
No springs inside the clutch. All just gears... At least that is how the original is. There is actually a rubber o-ring inside the clutch that causes friction when going forward and that is what causes the clutch to engage and raise the driver pawls.
@BSDBMX1991
3 жыл бұрын
You're right!
@sole__doubt
Жыл бұрын
i think that o-ring is why mine is having engagement issues.
@MiddleAgeBMX
Жыл бұрын
@@sole__doubt the OG freenight was pretty easy to replace the o-ring. I have been running my BSD for a year now and haven't had any issues so I haven't needed to do anything yet.
@sole__doubt
Жыл бұрын
@@MiddleAgeBMX i got caught in the rain a few weeks ago and after that I had engagement issues. Im having trouble getting the jam nuts off, they are really on there tight. Im gonna get me a bigger crescent wrench hopefully that helps. If not , Im bringing it to the shop
Ive had mine for about a year and a half with no trouble until recently. Im having engagement issues so I changed back to my cassette, but now I see you have this video Im gonna try to repair it myself before bringing it to the bike shop. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for making these videos. ;)
@williambodger551
Жыл бұрын
@brant_moore has a video all about planetary freecoaster maintenance but if i remember off the top of my head i think that your issue is most likely because your jam nuts arent tight enough or your planetary isnt sitting in its grooves correctly. try tightening up your jam nuts really tight with a wrench and the allen hole.
@sole__doubt
Жыл бұрын
@@williambodger551 actually the jam nuts were put on so tight by whoever assembled the wheel that I cant take the hub apart.
@nightriderbmxshop6768
Жыл бұрын
Its most likely time to replace the O-ring inside the clutch. Please contact us (freenight) if you need any help.
@sole__doubt
Жыл бұрын
@@nightriderbmxshop6768 I was able to take it apart and get it working again. I got caught in a downpour and water got into it and evidently enough water remained to make it engagement an issue. Once I dried and cleaned the internals it worked like new again.
@nightriderbmxshop6768
Жыл бұрын
@@sole__doubt excellent!
Gotta admit. This is pretty dope. Probably the only freecoaster I might try. Happy thanksgiving to my US folks. Alf u gotta ride this and give a review.
@Mr383chevyboy
3 жыл бұрын
Try the profile z coaster you'll love it and never need another hub again
Sick video Alfredo. Happy Thanksgiving ✊✊✊
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Raf! Happy thanksgiving
Dude, love these tech Tuesdays, I've learned so much by watching these its insane. Wish I would have watched these before I bought my Fitbikeco TRL from the asshole at my local bike shop, I'm 5'8 on a TRL XXL...no worry Ill just get good on this boi and get a better bike from ya'll next year sometime.
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
It’s all good man, he might not have been trying to be a dick, and the didn’t know the difference himself, but to be honest it’s only about 1/25th of an inch so you can learn on it and then swap the frame out for something you’ll like better
🔥🔥🔥luv these vids man🔥🔥🔥
Sick hub!! It’s the game changer!! Everyone get one! Just buy a whole revolution wheel and have it in your inventory to swap over for a change and who knows you may not go back to your usual cassette :-)
Happy Thanksgiving bro!
I was lucky enough to hey a RHD one I love it
This guy is the ultimate bike shop dude
i love this guys reviews. I could have him review a 6 day old cheesecake. LMAO for the "help me help yuh" CKY2K call back. Thats how i know Phu Vu is a real one.
Got a new internals freenight on my way to me. Hope to get it laced up and on the General in the next week or two. Yew!
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Yeeeewwww 🥂🥂🥂
Mines getting laced up at the moment. Cant wait to ride it!
finalllyyy the bsd coaster
Very amazing revolutionary I wish could buy it someday🔥🔥🔥🔥
Awsome! TT
Great video!!!!!!
Solid. Would love to try that hub someday. I hate freecoaster slack.
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the future!
Great vid man
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated 🤓
@antoniosandoval3668
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlfredoMancuso yeah nice talking to you again idk if you remember me from the other vid
This freecoaster is going to save a lot of busted knees. Learning on an old school freecoaster was brutal.
@maxpotter7711
3 жыл бұрын
Been on free coaster for like 3 weeks absolutely love it havnt smashed my knee once
@maxpotter7711
3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait til the day normal free coasters r a thing of the past and everyone will be on one of these
@SH-ry2xi
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxpotter7711 I was just thinking the same thing, like I’m a beginner on a cassette now and want to upgrade to a free coaster and I was thinking like is this cheating? But then I realized this is the next level of innovation and all free coasters will basically function like this soon.
@randomchannel4886
3 жыл бұрын
I gave my freecoaster wheel away to some kid who could ride it better than me.💀😂
@Mr383chevyboy
3 жыл бұрын
Ull only bust your knee if your being dum I've rode free coaster on and off for 5 yrs and never busted my knee only almost went over my bars but learning to ditch fall is part of bmx and keeping the fact ur on a free coaster make shure u pedal so no slack is in the hub
Clutch V2 Gang. I lowkey like doing the back pedal but this hub is cool. If you dont have to do any maintenance like a cassette I would buy it for sure
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Solid choice!
Is there a shim washer between the clutch and the hub bearings ?
Hey man, what's the dimensions on this? Trying to figure out spoke size but most calculators need more info than bsd tells me.
Phu you crazy bastard you did it again !!
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
Thats a sick ass hub
I been picking up these bikes, well it started with the free stuff app I went and picked up a bike turned out to be a old hot wheels GT bmx 20 inch I sold it for 400 to a guy by chance I didn't know. Now I have 3 of these Fitbikeco bikes that were free is this something I should keep trying to do?
I just got back into riding and got a bike with an fc and its been a weird transition but im getting the hang of it. My only question is can I still do a brakeless tire tap on a quarter and hold the pressure like i could with a cassette?
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t ridden one yet, but I don’t believe so. I can confirm in a few weeks
you should hit up those water jet guys ... so interesting thanks you guys
you can tell when Phu is happy cause he makes horny jokes. I love these vids
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha you’re so right!
Recent subscriber, recent Phu fan!
🔥🔥🔥
Bro that BSD hub is going to change the whole game ! Dope ! , happy ThanksGiving Alf
Alf will there be a oss store in la in the near future?
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
No clue. I’m not with OSS
Can I ask, crankflip on revolution hub is more like cassete or freeco ? Thanks !
@sole__doubt
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah you can crankflip it just like on a cassette.
Quick question Alfredo are these available to buy yet?
@BSDBMX1991
3 жыл бұрын
@Stickt more coming soon, also worldwide distros and shops will be receiving stock over the next month or so. Covid has caused to many shipping delays!!
I want one, and I wanna see that fig Newton in half 🥳
Is it the same as the nankai freecoasters ??
Good
Show the axle conversion, please! I need this exact thing with the config you were showing. Sell them as a package online!
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Happening soon!
Is my rim done? 😂 nice video
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I don’t build them but Ethan might have finished it for you
@MrDjcamo29
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlfredoMancuso I’m was just messing man but thanks man I appreciate you man happy thanksgiving 🍁
I'm intrigued to see how the female version works if the pressure provided by the cone nut is so integral to the hub working.
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Coming real soon!
@nightriderbmxshop6768
Жыл бұрын
The later versions have inner o-rings to keep the spacer fixed on the axle, so less pressure is needed from the cone nut.
When he said "help me help you" I heard it in Brandon DiCamillo's voice
Started riding again after quitting 20 years ago... man oh man i got a lot of catching up to do... 😳
My Geisha will occasionally catch and the pedals will move when rolling backward. Is there any free coaster that doesn’t have that issue?
@renemadsen809
3 жыл бұрын
You maybe have to increase the slack to get rid of this problem, alf made a tutorial on that, go check that out
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
You just have to increase the gap in your hub
@roberthuffmann8204
3 жыл бұрын
Alfredo Mancuso thanks Alfredo
I don't know why but I LOVE the smooth sweet silence of me Odyssey V2. Am I wrong for this?
@sole__doubt
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I just went back to my madera cassette back wheel and the first thing I thought was how loud I was. I cant sneak up on the cats in the neighborhood anymore. ;)
👏👏👏
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
Does epic bmx have a website to buy from
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Not at the moment
RIP diego armando maradona
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻😔
that catset thing HAHAHAHAAHAH lmao
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
💜😂
Does anyone here have an issue with revolution hub squeaking? Any suggestion to solving this issue?
Can I order the new BSD coaster from your shop ?
I Love this guy he's funny hahha hi mr. Alf i already tagged you in my IG
Dropped it, I thought you were serious fuck Holmes springs everywhere 🤣
Hey can you do another video showing which parts to grease?
@AlfredoMancuso
Жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@add1cted2l3arning
Жыл бұрын
@@AlfredoMancuso thank you all the way from STL!
This needs a 16 tooth driver option.
Yeeeee
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Sup mangggg!
Yo the only reason I got into bmx is because of Alfredo
Wow that's now the a freecoster
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
We think it might be the best!
Catset gang!!
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
New gear 😂
Does anyone know when the giveaway is
😲😲👏👏👏👏
BSD take my money 💰.
Hey alf. Great vid. Have you done or could you do a vid on what causes hubs to slip. I have pulled my hub apart a few times and tried to fix it from slipping. It all looks good to my untrained eye so id love some real advice before i buy parts that i may not need. Cheers bro
@macaulleyjordan1603
3 жыл бұрын
Is it a cassette or freecoaster?
@doriking275
3 жыл бұрын
@@macaulleyjordan1603 its a cassette with the paws in the rim and the teeth on the driver
@macaulleyjordan1603
3 жыл бұрын
@@doriking275 paws in the rim? Do you mean it's got the grooves inside the hub and then on the driver are pawls, and springs underneath them?
@doriking275
3 жыл бұрын
So when i take the axle out. The rear sprocket/driver has teeth around it and the paws that engage to the teeth are inside the hub. If that makes sense. As apposed to the paws being attached to the rear sprocket/driver and the teeth inside the hub
@macaulleyjordan1603
3 жыл бұрын
@@doriking275 ok got ya, if its slipping, either the teeth on the driver have worn down and lost their "edge" or the pawls have worn down, if you can get access to the springs under the pawls then bend them up slightly to create more tension on the pawls and teeth, that will reduce the slipping problem, failing that replace the pawls in the hub, but if the teeth on the driver have worn down then you either need to replace the driver or get a new hub, most of the time just bending the springs up slightly and creating more tension fixes the problem
Was that a cky2k reference at the end lol.. That hub is really cool, if I ever switch to a freecoaster that'll be the one..
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
So it’s cassette but you don’t have to pedal backwards?
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Correct
Tossing one on in the future?
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to try one out for sure!
Mark my words !!
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Marked haha
Isn’t just a zcoster that profile makes
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Similar but different mechanisms
@thefecturn2798
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlfredoMancuso ohh ok
@triplexthreat4116
3 жыл бұрын
the zcoaster has to be disengaged, don’t quote me but i believe it’s heavier and while the z coaster is still engaged and you go backwards the petals move back and it allows you to do tire taps and 270 taps , a 270 tap has been done with this hub design (brakeless of course with petal pressure of course) but it’s not consistent enough to count , brant moore did a video on this with trevor
Is this somewhat similar to the zcoasters
@BSDBMX1991
3 жыл бұрын
Not at all
Gotta say though, more parts is just more chances to fail. I hope they sell a replacement clutch.
@oldfartonabmx2122
3 жыл бұрын
Yea you’re exactly right! More parts means less reliability. Which is why I’m go to swap my car for a horse n cart. Wait. No I’m not.
✝️💯😎
Who the hell invented these things? Is it from professional bike racing/track/dome or? Who even thinks about a clutch on a BMX. Cassette or coaster. But there are some smart Gurus around.
@nightriderbmxshop6768
Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) it was a rare combination of a gifted engineer with bmx tech lover (me), team work!
What is the benefit of female axle
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Lighter weight, lower profile, cleaner look
Im planning to come down to epic and buy a bike after Christmas
One way bearing like an rc car
yeah the guys at bsd put a lot of thinking into this but honestly like 99% of people riding do that backpedal automatically even with a casette if u want a freecoaster just get one, get used to the slack and then u got the same thing and u can play around with the slack while riding which is fun too Cool concept but in my opinion a waste of time
Phu IS the joe rogan of bmx bikes !!!
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha agreed
I'm a mechanic, I can tell they are well made? But how do you know how much or should I just shoot em to the youngsters around the neighborhood
2:38 what did Ethan say?
@witheredandthawedat
3 жыл бұрын
“he wants to know what’s good with slim seats”
Phu Just changes tubes😔 Can he ride as well as he fixes bikes?
Unison
I rather trust the WTP Hybrid coaster than this one. The wtp is way simpler and doesn’t require any gears and fancy mechanisms. It’s a 100 bucks cheaper as well
@williambodger551
Жыл бұрын
it tends to have more slack tho but i understand you completely, they all work basicly the same so why the price difference?
Did he say “chocolate center”??
Hi im from philipines can you give mo a bike for chrismas thankyou more power
Is this similar to the Profile hub?
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Arguably it’s better
@AL4140
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlfredoMancuso only time will tell that. Similar design is what I meant.
damn it second
@rustycatslife8304
3 жыл бұрын
xD love your vids alfredo
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Really means a lot
Go ahead mahn! Cut it up. Show them asians aren’t cheap😂
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
First. Sorry phu a good clutch wont gain horsepower but it will help to not loose horsepower. But I get where your coming from
@AlfredoMancuso
3 жыл бұрын
You tell him! haha
@oldfartonabmx2122
3 жыл бұрын
He means gaining HP at the wheels. And he’s right. Not loosing HP at the flywheel = gaining HP at the wheels. Where it counts. Just ask the Duke boys !
Casssette fetish
The bigger the click the better the ride
How is this different than just running low slack in a free coaster?
@_tcmore
3 жыл бұрын
Because running low slack means pedalling a bit forward will engage the hub. This hub basically has unlimited slack when going backwards. You can pedal forward while going backwards with this this as long as you don't pedal too fast. If you pedal forward faster than the gearing is spinning bringing the pawls down then it will engage. It is based off the Freenight Planetary freecoaster and I have been running a prototype for almost two years and it really is game changing.
@cameronholcomb6578
3 жыл бұрын
@@_tcmore oh wow ok definitely just improved my opinion on this hub🙌🙌
@_tcmore
3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronholcomb6578 it takes a bit getting used to it I found but I can't ride anything else now. Pretty much the faster you go fakie the less you have to worry about it engaging. It's just the initial going forward to fakie that has a possibility of making it engage and that's if you somehow engage the the pawls while going into the fakie which is pretty hard to do.
@cameronholcomb6578
3 жыл бұрын
@@_tcmore definitely have to check it out some day