Somehow, after almost 5 years I still don't have a single Black Grail. Finally time to rectify this.

@shinokensecond

4 күн бұрын

Damn, thats fucking rough and here I thought I was doomed for not getting a BG nor a Kaleidoscope in my 2 years playing.

@Jack_Rakan

4 күн бұрын

For me it's Volumen. I don't have a single copy of it, even though I have 6+ copies of every other CE for the ticket.

@applechrisjr5934

4 күн бұрын

It's alright bro I was the same in jp lol

@dylanhelvetios2300

4 күн бұрын

Big OOF dude 😔

@tobisetanta

4 күн бұрын

I’ve only gotten 2 K Scopes. And I’ve whaled many times 😩

It's wierd watching everyone go all in on recommending black grail, when this ticket was widely referred to as "the kscope ticket" when it dropped. Times change 🤷‍♂️

@CB-kf9up

4 күн бұрын

Maybe from the 2yrs behind NA pov. On JP, everyone said if you don't have mlb BG, get BG. With appends, there's hardly ever a situation in which you'd run kscope and still meet the dps check of 90+/++. For regular content it doesn't matter anyway.

@luckyroller9636

4 күн бұрын

We just have a bunch of people that can't think critically k scope is awesome I use it more than BG

@mrharvy100

4 күн бұрын

Kscope gets way more hate than it deserves. In my eyes Kscope and BG are ranked equally in my ears because I still use them both (MLB) equally for different things. Not every servant in the game has built in amazing NP charges and relying on supports for charge as a fix doesn’t help in certain 90+ or 90++ nodes. Sometimes even using 50 battery CEs isn’t enough for your battery needs. . - MLB BG is overrated in contrast. Yes it’s the best damage value CE in the game, but compared to MLB Kscope it’s way less flexible use case on team comps. -MLB Prisma is my personal 3rd best CE out of this list just because it’s a good battery source CE for support servants that you never want to attack with, but want to still use their NP often. Shines in CQs and helps if your using slower builds with servants like Tamamo. - MLB Vol Hyd would be ranked #4 It’s just a solid support CE (that is full health stat which is what you want on supports) on either a support servant to give them added survival or can even work on a solo/anchor servant. Cu Alter for example works great with it. The 30% card color CEs are kind of whatever because if you just wanted a zero utility + zero charge based CE then you would use BG anyway unless that specific servant relied on their cards for crits rather then NPs. Even then there are better replacements. Totally forgettable and not needed for use. - Someone that already has a MLB copy of all these CEs and more annoyed we didn’t just get a servant ticket again since servants are always more interesting/worthwhile grabs then a single CE copy.

@0Clewi0

4 күн бұрын

​@@mrharvy100 The bigger thing about the kscope hate for old accounts is that with appends (or for the ones that they're hard to get almost any party gauge) there's little value for mlbing it, so it enables less setups than mlb grail or mlb prisma would

@edgarenriquetektorres2488

4 күн бұрын

Cuando dieron el ticket no había tanta dificultad en las misiones de desafío, lostbelt, 90++, etc.

good thing to point out about Ocean Flyer is that because of the recent rerun on JP for Summer 6, we do get another chance at getting this CE again albeit in 2 years time

@ytgamerxd485

4 күн бұрын

Hell Yeah And Also I miss My lost servants so it's a Win If I ever got lucky on getting them back in my Chaldea again

I have 7 copys of Black grail (so mlb+2) Meanwhile I've been sitting at 4/5 Kscopes for what feels like FOREVER, so im putting that personal demon to bed lol.

Yeah! I happen to have 4 copies of Black Grail in my first few months of the game and it's been two years since then! Thankfully this thing happens

@aquasis995

4 күн бұрын

If you have 4 you’re set but if you have 3…

@angelosantos990

4 күн бұрын

@@aquasis995 I have... it's already lvl80! 😏

@nevisysbryd7450

4 күн бұрын

Same! Been playing for years and got my fourth recently.

@manofkelcher984

4 күн бұрын

I got 4 copies of kscope and been thinking of getting it. Now I'm not certain if I should get kscope or get a 2nd copy of prisma 😂

@ZETA14.88

4 күн бұрын

@@aquasis995 you should refrain MLB-ing BG until you have the sixth one. That way you'd have 2 BG (1MLB + 1 normal)

I think it would have been a good idea to include one or two upcoming event CE's as alternatives for LZO/Formalcraft like you had for Imaginary Around, even if they're inferior versions of Ocean Flier/ First Day of Filming. Just in case newer players see this list. Edit: I do also think you're talking down on Kscope a bit too much. It's still an amazing tool to have for new-ish accounts. And there are still a lot of Servants that love having Kscope as an option for 3 turn farming, either due to a lack of meaningful personal batteries, or the accounts lacking the required multiple supports needed for looping. Yes, it fell off from being the *1 busted CE, but it's still WAAAAY more useful as a generic pick than Volumen or the type CE's.

Just as the Fate/Stay Night Ticket on JP is just a "Free Arthuria" in disguise, this Ticket is just a "Free Black Grail" in disguise

@MomosuzuNenechi

3 күн бұрын

I picked Medusa.

@aizeroth8858

3 күн бұрын

I picked Medusa

@michaelloyola4082

3 күн бұрын

I picked Medusa..

@JaimeNyx15

3 күн бұрын

I picked Herc on JP, but I'll probably pick Artoria on NA

@thefool8224

Күн бұрын

there is a dude that picked the regend.

Black grail is just a given to be better. So many bosses can appear that just drain np and damage is more useful than starting charge Plus even a new account you get waver xuu fuu and can roll SIbuki for a strong set up with friend castoria and black grail to make up for the damage

@luckyroller9636

4 күн бұрын

Bosses can just buff themselves so that your 80 np damage means nothing we can play tit tat all day

@orga7777

4 күн бұрын

@@luckyroller9636 Uh. I don't know how common that is. People crack and break and exploit damage buffed Servants all the time, and Black Grail is the main reason that happens. It plus Oberon is just massive damage not comparable to anything else.

@kr555wizard

3 күн бұрын

@@luckyroller9636by your logic kscope is even more useless since you’d have a single use weak ass np unless you are using a kscope on a support.

I think you might be underestimating kscope, especially for newer and weaker accounts. That starting np can make or break difficult and rapid boss/challenge fights. While it is certainly less important now than it used to bez and the value of the second and especially third onwards copies is severely diminished, having at least one copy is a massive asset. Still not my first recommendation, though my second, with a few caveats.

@lookingforlove839

4 күн бұрын

I mean, i use kscope on george to get the dragon trait on the enemy. It's always a useful ce to have. I even used it on Benkei to remove the buffs in the woodwose fight, since I also needed the taunt

@nevisysbryd7450

4 күн бұрын

@@lookingforlove839 All of the supports can benefit from being able to delay their battery for the next turn. Maybe you need to use a defensive or buff np so your DPS cannot loop back to full np gauge off of cards, so you want to delay a battery; maybe there is a break bar with a buff removal effect so you want to burst the first bar down then buff. Maybe you want to use a burst damage anchor not reliant on external charge, like Summer Jalter with her 20% battery. And it slots in well for a support like Waver with his 20% teamwide charge and you want his np right off the bat without taking charge away from the DPS. Getting an np off _without_ expending a battery has a lot of value in non-farming contexts.

@mrharvy100

4 күн бұрын

Yeah. He was also heavily overrating Cosmos. Compared to a MLB Kscope that has a MUCH more versatile use case on your servant pool with how it’s a NP without having to hit a single skill button, Cosmos is mainly a support CE for slower nodes so it’s way more limited in comparison with a smaller pool of servant targets you would realistically use it for.

Kscope fell off hard. what a day to be alive

I have np2 Draco and Tiamat and only have one copy of the 5* event CE, when the game says no there's nothing you can do.

@MystFGO

4 күн бұрын

F

@JaimeNyx15

3 күн бұрын

I still envy your gacha luck. I had to go pretty hard to even get NP1 Draco, but I did end up with two MLBs of the 5* CE.

I have MLB Black Grail already, and also 1 copy of KScope. Probably will choose another KScope, because I also have 1 copy at least of other CEs. I don't have the invis one but I don't really care about it

@xolotltolox7626

4 күн бұрын

I have 4 scopes but not a single black grail And also only one white grail

JP player here, I got a copy of Prisma Cosmos because it was the only copy that I didn't MLB,( except for the invincibility one), I have só many copies of Kscope and Black Grail that I think I have at least 2 MLB each.

Need more of this video. Loved It ❤

I have NP5 BG and KScope, so it's the Prisma Cosmos for me.

@gunnarschlichting9886

4 күн бұрын

Prisma Cosmos is super nice for the invincible comp, makes it so much more consistent when the enemy either has low hitcounts/lowers your NP gain or even worse drains NP.

MLB black grail let's goooo. Could have mentioned the Berserker BG as option to it. Yes its more niche, but since you can use Berserkers pretty much everywhere, its definatly viable

It's kind of funny, back in the day before Castoria even existed, when I started NA waaaay back, like Christmas 2 - I got MLB Black Grail within span of like a few months and at the time was really mad about it, because kscope was kind of important back then. Well, come Christmas 3 - I had a grailed Chloe who scored me so many FP just by nature of being able to solo the last wave with MLB Black Grail and since then I just kind of used it everywhere, then Castoria came out and the rest is history... kind of wild to think how it went from a very niche but nice CE to "oh, well might as well slap this on."

I have been playing FGO since the NA release and I have only ever gotten two Kscopes but maxed everything else out over the years. Also, do we know if the servant ascension rewards are permanent like the quartz pieces or rank up/interlude quest missions after the 7th anniversary or are they only for however many ascensions you have at the time of anniversary?

I was gonna choose black grail but I recently got a 4th copy of kscope should I go mlb scope or grail still

1:43 real question: how much does a 8% buff actually do? I would have though it was small enough to barely be worth anything at all

Is the ticket only available for a limited time? I'm planning on splurging all my quartz in the upcoming summer and I might get some of the CEs here.

@MystFGO

3 күн бұрын

Yeah, limited time sadly.

Funny thing about looping - i use a kscope to loop with Nobbu avenger, double KoL and Oberon. Kscope gives turn one, KoLs turn two, and Oberon swaps in for turn three using Nobbu's battery.

Definitely not optimal, but since I like to use Penth a lot, I found sticking a Volumen on her to be a pretty good way of keeping her alive through stuff like boss aoe attacks. At least makes her more dependable than without it

@mrharvy100

4 күн бұрын

Yeah it’s best used on either supports that has no hard survival + benefits more from full HP or if your using it on a Berserker (usually as an anchor). Cu Alter gets a lot of value from it because that is A LOT of layerd damage ignores

@mrharvy100

4 күн бұрын

Also worth noting you can’t remove the CE Invis so that actually matters in buff removal CEs.

@mrharvy100

4 күн бұрын

Just something he ignored to talk about in the video.

If I have a singular copy of black grail should I get prisma cozmos

fck i tough you could choose the kiara CE with overcharge in this one.. i got 2 kales one hp and the attack one. And one BG.. should get another BG? i have the others too

Which CE do you think is better, Myst? MLB Magical Girl of Sapphire or MLB Ocean Flyer? I have them both at lv100, but I can't seem to reach a conclusion.

@GS_CCC

4 күн бұрын

If you can loop with Flyer its better for dmg. If you can't use Sapphire for Refund.(Its was really good when double skadi was meta since it could replace Kscope MLB)

I have 3 maxed black grails, and everything else maxed...i guess another kaleidoscope wont hurt

Time for me to grab another prisma cosmo to MLB my 2nd copy for my immortal team Still hoping for the chance of a possible tier list review of CCs and CEs similar to what you did for the servants myst, i missed the interaction btwn you,plushie n otto.

I have 4 out of 5 Kscopes, would you guys recommend going for MLB or stick with several "smaller" ones, as that way i can use them on more Servants instead of only one! (If it matters, i have all the Major Supports except Merlin)

@GS_CCC

3 күн бұрын

I have it MLB, I don't think it changes much either way. Most of the time using the 50% charge CEs ends up being the better choice in CQs for the secondary effects and you already uses the AoE Charge skills T1. Unless you have like 2 servants in the back you like to use that need an MLB one it won't chance either way.

Im a new player so sorry if this dounds dumb but how do you get some of the "Free CE's" that were mentioned? Were they really free? Like could I i just get them? I really wanted ocean flyer but I'm guessing its not coming back anytime soon huh :(

@MystFGO

2 күн бұрын

Yeah the free ones I showed in the video are either CEs from past events or upcoming ones. Ocean Flyer is luckily coming back since the rerun happened this year on JP but unfortunately as an NA player you will have to wait nearly 2 years for it.

In case some of you didn't know, the "demerit" of BG also activates Caren's passive to give her EVEN more damage on top of it all. So yeah, that CE is kinda funny in how the recurring damage can be a straight up boon instead.

Those "Brutally honest" videos are great :)

I have 4 copies of Kscope and 3 copies of BG, should I still pick BG and pray to the gacha gods that I get it whenever I roll on any banner?

I finally got an MLB Kscope and leveled it to 100 right before the append system came out. I still use it a fair amount in CQs and story quests, since certain 3 and 4 stars still don't have much in the way of charge, and it suits quick looping decently, depending on the servant. ...But yeah, I'll be grabbing a Black Grail.

I have one Black Grail I got from a Kama banner that got me as excited as my actual target. I didn't use it that much... yet. I know HP pools are gonna go brrrrr. I have the bad Kscope, the HP scaling one, and no Prisma Cosmos. I see MLB Black Grail like a distant dream, but it's true that those extra 20 levels are a thing to consider.

I want to add that sometimes limited zero over seems good for a gorilla deck servant (king Hassan for example), but it's better to take with you Himiko CE or another buster+crits CE

Since I have everything at least once MLB. I'm gona pick a second kscope since I'm one away from second MLB and 2nd MLB BG isn't really necessary.

Alt account: I can finally MLB Black Grail! Main account: hmmm, I'm burning whatever I pick to level a CE bomb.

I'm about to get black grail to bring it close to mlb cause I thought I already have kscope but it turns out it's not a kscope but hpscope

Imma get prisma cosmo. I was lucky and managed to MLB a black grail with less than 3 years of playing this and i have 3 Kscopes imma try my luck and see if i can mlb it with natural rolls.

What about new players..won't the scope be better for progression?

I can 3T farm with junao alt if i get kscope, I'm just worried I'll get one naturally after the event and regret not taking BG ;-;

@akirayuki6275

4 күн бұрын

Are you using Double Koyan + Oberon? 'Cause you can 3T farm even with a 50% Charge CE as long as you max his second append skill (there's a 3 star one if you're not worried about lower stats)

This is almost here, back when I leaned of this via JP i was going for Prisma (story content fights, which I've since done already) then Kscope until Appends came out, i have 4 copies of Kscope on my Main, but i can't remember the last time i used it, of the 3 colours, the Rin one is MLB on both my accounts, I'll be going for BG, my Alt has 3 copies, so hopefully the coming Gatcha i pull on will feature a copy or two, I'll pick after I'm done rolling GSSR and Anni Servant.

Personally. either a 2nd base copy of prisma/scope or a 3rd grail and hope for 2 more down the line. i also have the zerker black grail that doesn't cause self damage (saves 2 seconds a turn!).

I didnt even have one copy of black grail for the longest time , then last year i got my first copy and that somehow opened some kind of gate. I have it mlb now, so i guess I'll get prisma

I have eight copies of Heavens Feel as a mostly free to play player. I randomly came to having 3 black grail copies last year finally after playing from day one.

i can't fucking believe it, after all this years i`m finally gonna mlb my black grail

How do Formal Craft and L/ZO compare to Another Ending and Victor of the Moon?

@MystFGO

4 күн бұрын

If your Servant has any kind of crit focus or is from a class that has great absorb like Archer/Foreigner/Rider, I would go with the crit ones. They also scale up to 2400 ATK like Black Grail so a bit of added power.

@whitey6453

4 күн бұрын

@@MystFGO Thx

I have 3 Black Grail right now and I'm still currently waiting for that one single copy to drop so that I can MLB it

errr i hv 4/5 kscope, tho honestly idt i rly need an MLB w how easily i can 2nd append now i only hv one black grail tho..... hmm.....

Sooo Myst, full CE-Tierlist when? :D

I feel like such a cool kid for using black grail on Carmilla on year 1+2 lol I might get prisma cosmos since it’s the only one of these I haven’t MLB’d yet

Have 4 Kaleidoscope and the gacha gods had to spite me with a copy of the newer version. Will be MLBing it with this, especially since I already have MLB Black Grail

I have 2 copies of Kaleidoscope and 4 copies of Black Grail. The decision couldn't be easier. I created plenty of CE bombs during the learning with Manga event so it will be an instant upgrade to 100 once MLBed.

I think prisms is 3rd best, black grail is just busted these days for damage with Oberon, and kaleidoscope allows a larger section of buster servants to be able to farm and as stated can allow any servant to start the fight with np including the 20%staring change

Stupid question about The Black Grail, but gonna ask anyway. On the bottom right corner are those her fingers? Because they don't have fingernails, but she doesn't have any on her right hand either, altho they are far away to see clearly. So those are her fingers and she is reaching out for me to hold her hand or dance or whatnot, right? But then the flower bouquet is on her dress or on her forearm? OR is it the hand of someone else, just those fingers are bending in a silly way?

@Syokool

4 күн бұрын

Irisviel is the receptacle of the Grail, the one that in FZ morphs into the Grail. If you watched the animes of the fate franchise, you'll see the Grail is both a magical artifact that is linked to the source and an amalgamation of the obscurity of humanity. There are other servants that use the Grail and you see those hands like Kiara.

If your looking for arts and buster there Is also heartbreaker, the free ce from the doggo event

Gotta wait two years to get ocean flyer until then I’ll use filming or get black grail for arts loopers

In my honest opinion, considering overall utility for both new and veterans: Kaleidoscope > Black grail > Anything else (they all have good f2p accessible alternatives) In my particular case I'm one Kaleido short of having TWO SUPERSCOPES as a f2p, and even after years, my black grail has ZERO limit breaks, so I definitely know which one I'm picking. I really want that juicy MLB Black Grail with 2400 ATK....

Yea but what if i want my second MLB black grail

I'm definitely going for the K-scope on both accounts, having only been able to draw 3 copies on my main and 2 copies on my alt. Sure, if all my Servants had their A2 maxed, that would be a different story. But, being a non-whale, I have very many NP1-2 SRs which don't even have any appends unlocked, and, of course, I don't have the Lores to max everyone who does. Of course both accounts have BG MLB'd or I'd go for that one, but getting closer to MLBing the venerable scope takes much higher priority over Prisma Cosmos for me. My Castorias always run hard content with the Amakusa CE anyway (too bad that one's missing here or I might've picked it over the Kscope).

I have everything MLB’d except Imaginary Around and Formal Craft, and both are at 4 copies, wtf do I do 😢

I'm glad I have ocean flyer, first day of filming, aerial drive and teachers pointer MLB now I just need BG and my damage CEs are done for now

I have pretty much every perma 5 star CE including some MLBs, but 0 BGs. Kind of sad that it got to this point, but at least I can have one now.

Just one more after this free one.. Praying I can lucksack the last copy of black grail soon.

I got 6 black grails, 1 scope after 1 and half years of playing. I can actually upgrade my scope now!

should i pick kaleido? i have 1 bg atm and 2 hp kaleido

@GS_CCC

4 күн бұрын

No, the extra lvs(more attack) from BG and being closer to MLB will help more. Even at mlb Kscope is rarely better than the 50% charge CEs with secondary effects.

Already have a MLB Black Grail and I am one copy short of MLB Kaleidoscope so is a easy choise 😅 I would pick Prisma Cosmos it it was my last copy to MLB but I think that even if I pick it I am still one copy short 😢

Considering the fact that after 4 years of playing the only non limited CE I still don't have a single copy of, is Black Grail I think the choice is pretty clear for me lmoa

I just pulled two copies of type earth in one multi in 180 quartz

Prisma Cosmos is the only one on this list I don't have an MLB of yet, and just need 1 more to MLB it. Easy pick for me.

Another use case for another BG even if you already have one MLB would be for a secondary DPS that has 80% charge + append or a straight 100 % charge to nuke the remainder of the enemy's HP. Another use case for MLB Kscope is for a Super Orion finish or an easy back to back NP on a support that has good charge. Another use case for Volumen is to protect your supports while waiting for a boss that has a "for X turns" protection gimmick that you either can't remove (due to your roster) or is unremovable like np seal, np dmg resist, dmg resist, and the like.

Honestly ive never seen a video talking about what CEs are good to use

A good Gacha Buster CE is the one that comes with koyanskaya, in MLB ehe has 60% and the effect of a non MLB Victor to the moon. Thanks for the video

I have full BG and no Kscope so finally!

I just realized i have an mlb black grail and 2 more copies after watching this video. But Myst sales talk makes me wanna get one more.

I know i should go for Scope to get MLB Scope but as a quick believer i want to get closer to MLB Imaginary Around

6:36 "great mother" then proceeds to put Tama on the CE instead of Tiamommy in her effing event, they didn't even pick Irisviel, Emiya or Boudica (she call herself onee-san, but have the biggest mommy vibe)

my bg is already mlb and i can finally get the fifth copy of prisma cosmos with this, been stuck at 4 for years.

Time to get my second black grail

I'll pick the one I don't have MLB yet, so it's between BG or L/ZO. Leaning on BG. And yes, we have Saintess of Winter on NA already

I already have a maxed Black Grail for my Melusine. I'll probably go for Kaleid.

I started playing FGO for Tamamo Lancer, a few months before her first ever banner in NA. Every SQ was saved for this banner. And I got super lucky. A Waver spook, a Kscope and a Tama Lancer. This Kscope from the very first banner I ever rolled on is still to this day the only copy of Kscope I have. And I have every other CEs on this list at MLB. Even two MLB black grails. So after 6 years I will finally get my second Kscope. Selective luck I guess.

I would actually still choose BG even if you already have an MLB copy. Reason being triple dps comps. Ik that may not sound awfully viable (it's not), but simply having it as a fun fallback option to the usual double support farming meta when it becomes stale can be nice. So ideally, you wanna have at least 1 lv100 BG (up to 3). However, a MLB scope can still have a solid use nowadays in relation to some welfares without a battery skill. It's likely you won't have enough coins to unlock their A2 right off the bat, having to raise their bond a great deal to do so, so a MLB scope can bypass that requirement entirely. But if having to choose between a 4/5 scope and 4/5 BG, the BG takes it handily in this day and age

Taking Black Grail as it's the only one I haven't MLB'd at least once and one more will let me do so.

Will you do a account review for the NA account? You have done it for a while now 😂😂😂😂

I have black grail thought I already had kscope it was marshal of magic 80% np battery is good

After years of playing I only have 1 kaleidoscope, the hp one. I think black Grail is my best choice.

I already have a black grail 2/5 (Yes, i used it 1 black grail copy just to put the main in lvl 40, i regret every single second of it) So i will go for kscope, even though i dont use it that much in farming, i dont have any copy of It, so its perfect for my support servants, the 75% of mlb sakura ce its just sad, for 5%? Really?

I have 4 copies of black grail and already have a superscope. I think the choice is obvious

Funnily enough to this day I still dont have kscope, everything else tho I got it. Funnily enough again I do have the health version of kscope so not missing much anyways lmao

I Need 2 Black Grail so i will go for it

Going for black grail i have 4 copies one short for mlb.

I'd say if you are a brand new player...like first getting started. K-scope is probably the preferred choice to help you in content until your account is more built. Otherwise Blk.Grail is the go-to option if your account is stacked and make use of Blk.Grail.

Already have mlb+ bg, kaleidoscope and prisma. So I don't really excited by the ability to choose the CE.

I need 4 copies of black grail but hey I'm on jp🙂 i hope they give us one more this year

already got Supergrail but only one copy of Kscope.. so easy choice

luckily i have an bbg so I get to finally get a kscope dupe lol

Black Grail is the only one I haven't maxed out yet

I don’t have a Black Grail yet, and I finally will. What a time to be alive.