I like how both Joe and Pavel look like kettlebells

@VictoriaT01

4 ай бұрын

Haha, this made me chuckle. 😆

@raymonddunne7153

4 ай бұрын

😆

@kupkakegrenade7052

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@b-sideplank

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 bro how you don't have like 60k likes

At 51 years old I needed something new. Joe and Pavel started me on a kettlebell journey.

@markbond08

Ай бұрын

Kettlebells are dumb. Barbells are all you need

I just found your channel and although I myself no longer use kettlebells, I sincerely appreciate how you navigate conversations. You don’t allow yourself to be in an “echo chamber” and you are capable of insightful commentary on multiple perspectives. Very refreshing and appreciated! Best of luck sir!

@lebe-stark

9 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Wow!! I'm remember that interview because it was the first video I've ever seen about kettlebells. A few days later I've found your channel, a video reaction to Jeff Cavaliere's kettlebell technique. It was two years ago and two things I won't forget, one how by listening to Pavel Tsatsoulin impressed me to buy my first kettlebells and start training. His videos were a great source for KB training. The second, when I found your channel you only had 10K or less subscribers. The continuous growth shows you do offer quality information. By the way, I love your Turkish Get Up technique, it is clean, safe, easy and simple. I hope you make it to 50K subscribers soon!!! Thanks again for the information and the great efforts you put in every video!!

@utubepunk

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, Coach Gregory is pretty close to 50K subs! NICE.

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

I truly appreciate your feedback Sebastian! Thank you! - Gregory

@meisdetermined

Жыл бұрын

He made it!! :)

His comments on greasing the groove and the biochemistry of hypertrophy were the catalyst for me to learn even more about human biology. Side note, the comments on how both Joe and Pavel look like kettlebells are hilarious. I buzz my head around the same time I fell in love with the kettlebell so maybe it's an unintended side effect. This interview helped completely reshape my relationship with fitness and movement. The inherent minimalistic nature of kettlebell training deeply moved me. As Mark Wildman says, "Unlimited variability, unlimited complexity. Simple but not easy." Progressing from 2 handed swing to the single arm swing clean, press and squat was immensely rewarding. Working up the strength AND the neurological connections to swing a bell over head then between my legs in the snatch was a personal victory like no other. It sounds silly but those that know and haven't been athletes their entire life will understand. My favorite way to move these days is to pull my gymnastic rings, kettlebell and steel mace/club from the trunk and get a workout in at the park. Barefoot and shirtless in the sun with my bare feet on the earth. Brilliant revelation. I really enjoy this style of commentary from you, Gregory. You've got a perspective which I admire.

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing brother! - Gregory

59 years old and just starting Kettlebell journey

Thanks for your video. Take care

As a person who just started getting back into KB as compared to my 38 years of weight training/powerlifting I have noticed the "the what the hell effect" as has my son that the dynamic and functional strength goes through the roof.

Thanks. I really enjoyed this discussion.

I like that minimalist approach, based on two main exercises and perhaps some supplemental exercises. It makes it easy to stick to a plan and there’s not a lot of mental overload on how to perform movements or program the workouts. I have been primarily focused on the KB swing and the iron cross pulls. I use the Ring Thing so I can get about ten reps with fairly long hold times, then with a dip belt, I can add weight and go down in reps.

I do the majority of weightraining with weights and machines, but still like to mix it up with kettlebells (mostly swings and snatches). Actually by doing (quite heavy) machine shoulder my left shoulder has been a little numb (and even been hurting) sometimes, which before when I was doing a lot of kettlebell snatches and kb shoulder presses they did not. And when I started doing machines I was actually stronger in the lift than I'm now. I've been training quite a while so my max strength doesn't increase so much anymore.

one of the most underrated channel on youtube...

If you look at what kinda exercise they were doing back in the late 1800s and early 1900s like Indian clubs & Kettlebells I believe they had already figured out a lot of things, we unfortunately are always looking to reinvent the wheel.

@lebe-stark

5 ай бұрын

Many of us are trying to add to the discussion. As a wise man once said: "There is nothing new under the sun…"

having read the original Soviet texts (translations) I would argue that leg extensions (for example) are actually not an SPP exercise but a GPP exercise. In the West, we have tended to use the Westside powerlifting definition where GPP is more systematic and SPP is more focused, like a pushup compared to an isometric press in the lockout range for example, but in the Russian terminology, GPP was more associated with the concept of being less technically dependent while SPP was more technically dependent, so an isometric press, having very little technical dependency was building the "general" attribute of high motor recruitment, independent of balance, tempo, bar path etc, while a jerk was SPP because it had a high technical demand, but it was harder to overload. The Squat, bench and deadlift were GPP exercises while in powerlifting they become SPP exercise, but Simmons considered partials to be even more SPP, even though they were less technical and therefore could be overloaded to build a GENERAL attribute independent of technique.

@lebe-stark

7 ай бұрын

This is highly insightful and an intelligent comment, brother! I thought about the GPP/SPP concept for a long time. Example: For a kettlebell sport athlete, the Clean would be a SPP exercise. Whereas for an MMA fighter, it could be considered GPP. It's important to understand the distinctions between the sport and the various requirements the sport takes. After reading through Verkshoshansky's and Yessis' work, I understand that "SPP" is a term used for extremely specified exercises, that closely resemble the joint actions done in the particular sport. Thanks for sharing! 💪

I used a15lb kettlebell turned upside down for presses: it feels amazing on the shoulders. Still do regular presses but throw those in for shoulder health.

Great video as always !Could you make a video about Dircus du plesiss UFC fighter training.He did a lot of kettlebell stuff

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

I'll check it out

Thank you for sharing great Content👏

Thank you. I was beginning to sense that the kettlebell press is a more secure bio mechanical movement for the shoulders. I'm gauging this on how my rotator cuff feels with current minor issues. Your comments really help interpret Pavel's knowledge.

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear this! - Gregory

He's written about this protocol in a recent book tbh: "The Quick and The Dead". It's worth a read, in my opinion.

You and Pavel are in same page regarding the hydrogen ion and lactic acid production. Can't remember which articles and books he wrote, or probably one of his seminars.

I listened to that podcast. Seemed like the entire video Pavel is quoting his book chapter by chapter from memory.

@utubepunk

Жыл бұрын

You know what they say... write what you know.

Kettlebells for power hell yea. As I am currently working on pulling 500 again and kettlebells has made this deadlift thing a lot easier . Pulled 405 this morning and it was rather easy

Just like Pavel said in his own videos, a martial arts background is most beneficial for kettlebells! I train with kettlebells to better and improve my martial arts!

Something I would to see: in an old video, I think it was “enter the kettlebell” Pavel talks about doing presses with your lat, and something about “packing the shoulder”. Would you ever consider doing a video where you break down what he means? I find it hard to engage my lats on the press like he suggests.

@lebe-stark

7 ай бұрын

Packing the shoulder means, to screw your upper arm into your shoulder for more stability. It takes time to start feeling your lats.

I always hated how barbell squats felt. Tried suitcase squats, but the dumbells prevented getting low. Goblet squats with a kettle feels the most natural for me.

@lebe-stark

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! 💪

Yes, my pull-ups improved a lot just from swings... I was shocked

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Mel Siff's book "Super Training" has list of athletics in the "burn" zone. Neither 400m sprint nor marathon are in it. 800m sprint and other odd swimming distances are categorized in the burn zone. The number's of competitors in this zone, apparently must be low in populations because I don't know an 800 meter sprinter very well. Just from jogging my memory.

This interview of Joe+PavelT is what got me into KB training and good research led me to Lebe Stark :) *yell*: TRIANGLE

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Aweseom! - Gregory

I’m happy with the product so far. It’s fairly new to me but I’m getting a little bit better at it

Great video!

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

At around 9:41 Yes, agree But he is speaking more in the long term. In terms of sustainability. The type of training that we can take with us throughout the rest of our lives. I don’t believe that this holds true for the athlete that is training for a specific sport. There is definitely a grey area here, but let’s look at the general concept more than the means of how we get there. In that respect, his philosophy is hard to argue.

Im 58 and have been wondering if antigycolytic programming might be wise. i figure Id try the kettlebell axe program. So i swung a 50lb bell 40 sets of 6 reps ofer a total of 40min last night. It felt good. I felt like I could do another exercise but didnt really need to have a productive day. I like Pavel he is like the Dave Ramsey of fitness. Not too academic or elitist.

Lebe Stark's unappreciated talent is the pronunciation of names and scientific terms.

Getting Jack is simple. Lift 75% of your max to failure as often as you can.

Regarding the love of kettlebells, Do you think that you could achieve all of the same improvements with any method that loads tissues and trains energy systems?

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Good question Greg. I think every method has its benefits. Kettlebells seem to touch all bases of human performance. That's something that's not an easy feat for a particular training tool. - Gregory

Did you do a react video to fitprohawaii maybe? 🙂 I searched but didn't din anything.

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

I haven‘t. - Gregory

Could you share your sources of soviet physical exercise theories?

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Most resources I've read are from Dr. Yuri Verkhoshansky. - Gregory

Pavel is 60ish I agree with his minimalist views or opinion.. keep is simple do it right.. simple.

Pavel and Joe look like kettlebells with their headphones on.

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Imagine there was a kettlebell in the shape of the heads of these two guys. A work of art! lol - Gregory

I don’t think people can’t make up their own mind because generally people are ignorant of biology, physical training and do not have the data. I decided to do just push-ups since new year 2023 and I have built so much muscle it ridiculous. I do slow push-ups for 3 and half minutes. That’s it. All my previous experience would say that nonsense but here I am.

@blackthornep8115

Жыл бұрын

Its because most people are ignorant and enjoy being so. When it comes to men specifically they have "bro science" and "Macho" power so real study does not even enter into their minds they say ignorant and injury themselves all the time. Lets not even touch on the Drug issue with a lot of people these days. Very few humans training for health and longevity just ego lifts and aesthetics!

@HkFinn83

5 ай бұрын

@@blackthornep8115 that’s not what broscience means lol

Pavel is demystified by professor Bart Kay. all about ATP and energy production and multiple metabolic systems are non-sense. it's worth taking a look on that review.

You should do a Joe Rogan show interview.

I found out about kettlebells two weeks ago. And I watched all the Pavel Tsatsouline videos and took notes. But I heard that's it's also alot of marketing and bs. So I'm trying to educate myself on all this stuff. I think Pavels powerlifting idea of doing 33-66% of the reps you can do but with more sets and resting 10-15 minutes seems great. What I dont understand is why he doesn't really believe in warming up. I wonder how dangerous that is. And I was under the impression the Russian special forces all use psychic abilities, like non-contact fighting. So maybe they don't need to warm up at all.

@utubepunk

Жыл бұрын

I get what you're saying about the marketing, but kettlebells likely wouldn't have taken off & become popular here without that marketing. I'd stick to subject matter experts, like Coach Gregory here, Coach Dan John, Pavel, Steve Cotter & Mark Wildman to name a few.

@shawnbadger2737

Жыл бұрын

Why do you say he doesn't believe in warming up? If you read his book "Simple & Sinister", he most definitely does advocates a good mobility warmup sequence.

What Pavel says stands to reason: go too much into the burn and despite the heavy volume&tension applied to the muscle instead of it starting to look like a bodybuilder's prized possession it starts to look more like a marathon runner's t-rex arms&chicken legs. So while all exercise above a certain threshold(upwards of yoga lol?!) damages the muscles the body can only recover from so much(and if its not done recovering before the next session is initiated then instead of the muscle growing bigger&stronger it starts to shrink instead)

@kevone-eo6pq

5 ай бұрын

well said.

Love Pavel, but I will say if we're talking about the most beneficial movement for humans to do, Idk how you can argue against the deadlift

@darkclownKellen

Жыл бұрын

A swing is essentially a deadlift

@FirstLast-dd9ym

Жыл бұрын

@@darkclownKellen of course there's some similarities but the differences far out way them in my opinion. Greg even discussed some of them in the video with Dr. Yessir, among other differences

@jonathanfrost944

Жыл бұрын

Pavel wrote a book around the deadlift, and competed in the deadlift. But not everyone can do it.

If someone asked me I would say- mostly x and y… but that doesn’t mean it’s all I do

Google says Pavel is 54 😆

swings and swings; kb and mb

The What The He'll result!!!

@kevone-eo6pq

5 ай бұрын

HELL.

A russian is teaching American version an anerican is teaching a russian style and we are learning hybrid style by watching someone who is neither American nor Russian

Perfect. I also watched this and realised how much junk I was listening to online.

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Happens to all of us. lol - Gregory

So you oppose Tsatsouline without having (admittedly) the proper knowledge to oppose him. The level of discourse is off the charts...

Joe Rogan, ahhhhh…I used to like watching and listening to him until the whole self treatment for COVID thing a few years ago. Hey, he’s got a profitable (very profitable) podcast empire. I just don’t hold every utterance he makes as gospel truth. Entertaining, sometimes. So… there…

@dizzicz

7 ай бұрын

Maybe you should think about what and why exactly is disturbing you, that someone is treating himself according to his opinion and not according to your opinion.

@68Tboy

6 ай бұрын

@kevinherlihy9471 Looks like you believe the misinformation about Joe. He didn’t do a self treatment, he went to a doctor and was prescribed medicine and recovered in 3 days. How does that make you feel that the media was able to manipulate your thoughts about a person with a lie?

@kevone-eo6pq

5 ай бұрын

maybe stop believing everything the tv tells you. covid was the biggest scam ever committed.

Never ask a woman her age.

Think Pavel is full of himself

Hiding age is a woman thing!! First time i have seen a man do that. I think its very funny!!

@rickdavidonlinept

9 ай бұрын

I think he might be in his sixties

@rickdavidonlinept

9 ай бұрын

Oops he’s 54 😂

Let me just say u cannot get stronger or bigger muscles swinging a kettlebell even the heaviest one made. If u don't believe me then swing it for a year, 2 years, or 10 years and don't use barbells, dumbbells, machines, or free weights. Take a pic of yourself before u start, after u do it the time frame listed above check and see if your max in any lift got stronger, trust me it did not, then take your after pic and I promise u that u will not be able to tell which pic was your before and which pic was your after. Kettlebells were made for women to use to look cut during their exercising. Ask the biomechanic experts if u still don't believe me. They could be okay for some rehab work but not much. Have u ever seen a person who just uses kettlebells that was strong or big. No u have not!!!!

@blackthornep8115

Жыл бұрын

Could you be anymore of a women yourself? You are completely in the wrong and have no idea what strength is. Go back to your simple minded room and do some curls while the intelligent humans learn and grow.

@HkFinn83

5 ай бұрын

Bodybuilding is a mind sickness

@davidlynch9049

3 ай бұрын

Lol. What nonsense.😂

@noobynoobytv5853

2 ай бұрын

Yes I have. Look up Joe Daniels.He is built like a tank. I would agree that barbells will build much more muscle. Yet the Quick and dead protocol Pavel is advertising in the interview is one of the best protocolls I tried out. Turning 49 tomorrow, I have the smallest hands/bone structure a man can have yet I am snatching the 32 kg for 100 reps in a workout( 10x10). I could not snatch the 24 for single digit reps a year ago. Barbell training just got me injured when getting the weights up, due to age. The protocol delvers what it promises>>>building mitochondria. The WTHE is just a bonus. In my case my also cardio went through the roof. It is not about using the Kb only. You could try it with burpees what I do currently- It will make the average Joe (not the elite athlet or bodybuilder...Pavel does not write for them) significantly ....younger in his/her movements and physical ability. Priorities change with age.

Nothing is really brutal about this video. I wish you wouldn't have used such a bait term.

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to KZread brother! lol - Gregory

i cant stand Joe Rogan

@lebe-stark

Жыл бұрын

I like watching his stuff - with a grain of salt. lol Thanks for sharing Chris! - Gregory

@chrisw5742

Жыл бұрын

@@lebe-stark You just dont know what a bad man he is.

@kevone-eo6pq

5 ай бұрын

then why are you here??

@chrisw5742

5 ай бұрын

@@kevone-eo6pq To be BRUTALLY honest and I am subbed.....

@chrisw5742

5 ай бұрын

Rogan is also a shiot talking LIAR.