Anton Bruckner (1824-1896) Symphony No.5 in B flat / Si bémol Majeur *Click to activate the English subtitles for the presentation* (00:00-01:50) I.Introduction / Adagio - Allegro / Mäßig (00:00) II.Adagio / Sehr langsam (21:00) III.Scherzo / Molto Vivace - Schnell (39:57) IV.Finale / Adagio - Allegro moderato (52:47) Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra , Amsterdam Direction : Eugen Jochum Live & Legendary recording in 1964, at the Abbey of the Benedictine Monks of Ottobeuren (West Germany) Find CMRR's recordings on *Spotify* : spoti.fi/3016eVr Les œuvres d'Anton Bruckner ont été proches d'Eugen Jochum durant toute sa vie. Il fut non seulement le premier chef d'orchestre à enregistrer les neuf symphonies du maître de St. Florian : la Septième Symphonie de Bruckner était même au programme du concert de l'Orchestre Philharmonique de Munich avec lequel il a débuté sa carrière à l'âge de 23 ans. Une exécution de la Cinquième Symphonie le conduit en 1932 à son engagement à Berlin comme directeur de ''Musical Hour on the Air''. Et lorsque Jochum se présenta en 1934 comme nouveau directeur général de la musique à Hambourg au jardin du couvent dans la Kaiser-Wilhelm-Strasse, il fit à nouveau de la Cinquième Symphonie de Bruckner sa carte de visite. Le travail de Jochum avec l'Orchestre Royal du Concertgebouw d'Amsterdam, qu'il avait déjà dirigé à de nombreuses reprises et dont il a repris la direction conjointement avec le jeune Bernard Haitink à la mort d'Eduard Van Beinum, était plus qu'un simple interlude. Dans l'émission de radio mentionnée plus haut, Jochum fait l'éloge du " plaisir extraordinairement chaleureux et plein de sang de faire de la musique " de l'orchestre d'Amsterdam, de son " sentiment particulier " pour Gustav Mahler et, surtout, de son " grand amour " pour Bruckner. L'enregistrement que nous présentons ici avec ce somptueux orchestre est l'un des plus grands disques jamais consacrés à Bruckner. Anton Bruckner PLAYLIST (reference recordings) kzread.info/dash/bejne/fouTtdurg8e4hs4.html&index=2

Bruckner symphonies always seem to evolve from beginning to end as though you're gradually climbing a mountain and eventually reaching a magnificent emotional and spiritual summit.

@douglasmurphy9127

5 жыл бұрын

i refer to the 8th as the mount everest of symphonies there all sublime and no finer interpreter than jochum

Jochum. I cannot forget him when we talk about Bruckner. He is still one of the greatest masters of Bruckner whom he loved and perfectly understood.

The finale is the pinnacle of the symphonic art form

@ScholarsRetreat

4 жыл бұрын

The greatest symphony of the latter 19th century.

@mankiperukangas7785

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. As a reaction to the mighty Beethoven ninth this is very different to Brahms 1st. As a recording this is the most exciting one by Jochum.

@hospitality5522

8 ай бұрын

Is it really a "art symphonic form"? There is Bruckner synthesis of sonata form and fugue, then his knowledge of sound. Quite different.

@robindale9352

Ай бұрын

I find the finale the least interesting part of the symphony. But I look for passages of minor key beauty I guess. And beauty is in the ear of the listener.

How much I adore Bruckner's symphonies, especially the seventh, fourth and eighth symphonies... And this is the first time I listen to the fifth and I loved it too. I think I'll hear it many times. Thanks for this great introduction. I love you from Damascus.

My favorite among Bruckner's symphonies: the fugue in the final movement is monumental, and so full of passion.

I came late to Bruckner. Thank you for this. From what i've read, if you're just coming to Bruckner, Jochum is the guy.

@leestamm3187

Жыл бұрын

What you read is correct, as you likely discovered. Jochum was splendid with Bruckner. He was excellent in all of the Austro-German repertoire.

Extraordinaire musique ... Merci à ce qui l'ont choisie , elle est presque triomphale. Enchanté de l'écouter

Thanks for posting this superb rendition! The first bars are totally overwhelming!! What a dream strings section and what a marvelous winds and brass!

There are many superb versions of the 5th but this has the most 'swing'. The orchestral tone is sumptuous and gorgeous, the rhythmic line buoyant and dancing. Jochum's later version with the Dresdeners is straitlaced and square by comparison. The Amsterdamers are not just a well-drilled band going through their paces, They sound magically, excitingly inspired. As we arrive at the Coda to the Finale the roof comes off the Ottobeuren Abbey. But it's not a raucous sound, it's a moment of thrilling consummation unparalleled in Bruckner recordings. This is an enormously emotional performance full of heavenly joy, ecstatic fulfilment, vibrant excitement and heart's love through and through.

Eugen Jochum lived and breathed this work. I think he understood it better than any other conductor.

A great conductor on Bruckner that knows what he is doing...Thank God for that...

Eugen Jochum NEVER recorded a bad Bruckner 5th. He practically OWNED this massive and glorious work.

It is the most beautiful gift before Christmas ..... stops my breath of excitement with such an interpretation, especially as a conductor, Furtwangler who founded with his wife (very beautiful) a Bruckner club, one of my favorites !!! Oh my God! Bruckner composed, after 50 years, nine epochal symphonies ... Viennese being, connoisseur and admirer of Wagner, another beloved !!! Organist as a band, Brucker made his orchestra sound like an organ! He knows how to move from whispers to the most terrible feelings! And the conductor and orchestra proposed by you, my dear ones, know and fall into them. Excellent sound and acoustics: at Bruckner it is important and acoustic, because few have dared to interpret it. You are fantastic!

Nunca se leu essa partitura com tanta consciência dos detalhes!!!! Esplêndido!!!! Fantástico!!!!! Bravo!!!! THE BEST!!!!

Best version ever.

@EvandroSchulz

5 жыл бұрын

I think too.

34.20 onwards Movt 2 is joyful and emotionally ecstatic. I was listening to this wonderful symphony whilst walking in a beautiful part of the West Coast of Scotland. The combination of the scenery and the music of Bruckner created one of the most beautiful and memorable experiences of my life. It was similar to hearing the Adagietto from Mahler's 5th Symphony. Once heard never forgotten.

Takeshi Nakano, a music producer from Japan, recalled an incident at the time when this LP was released for the first time. The members(10 plus several, he says) of Concertgebouw Orchestra and he himself were listening to this perfomance in a room. When the 1st movement began, the members looked at each other's face, and made wry smiles and seemed to speak out “Baracchi!” or somthing, as the pizzicato in the bass was not in agreement. But when the whole symphony finished, all of them all at once made a big applause to the speaker system. It was very moving, he says.

Wunderschöne und detaillierte live Aufführung dieser großartigen und ein bisschen wagnerhaften Sinfonie mit gut phrasierten und perfekt vereinigten Tönen aller Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und fast himmlisch. Der intelligente Maestro dirigiert das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ langsamen Tempo und mit sorgfältig kontrollierter Dynamik. Bestimmt eine der zehn besten Aufführungen dieses Werks im 20. Jahrhundert!

I enjoyed your Jochum's Complete Bruckner Symphonies uploading. Thanks again for this. :)

@classicalmusicreference

5 жыл бұрын

You welcome :-)

what precision, that almost supernatural research and of the sound that is so exalted and transposed until obtaining a unique interpretation that Bruckner would have been enthusiastic about

thank you very much for this.

Second movement from minute 38 is the summit of emotion achievable in music.

@larryprimeau5885

Жыл бұрын

I agree and was just thinking the same thing. the second movement may be the greatest piece of music ever written.

@pepehaydn7039

5 ай бұрын

As people say here in KZread : "this music saved my life". Not literally in my case, but very nearly.

Cette interprétation de la 5ème de Bruckner est une des belles sinon la plus belle, en tout cas la plus émouvante. L’adagio est magnifique de recueillement et Jochum est le seul pour moi à donner au passage de quelques minutes à partir de 34´30 un legato aussi sublime : on est proche de Dieu.

fantastic symphony

Esta interpretación es buenísima,jochum,sabía de esto.

Gracias y saludos cordiales desde Mallorca para vosotros classical music

@classicalmusicreference

5 жыл бұрын

:-)

Thank you for introducing the background info to me.

@classicalmusicreference

4 жыл бұрын

with pleasure :-)

I have my different go to conductors for particular symphonies. Haitink can't be beat for almost all of them. Jochum is another of Anton's faithful one can't go wrong with. But for the 5th, Bruno Walter is the one I like most. His 9th is the best too. The adagio is just sublime . But then, what Bruckner adagio isn't? Amazing how he transforms the themes from one movement to the next. Bruckner likes to toy with us too. There IS humor tossed in here and there. This Scherzo is a perfect example. Then he bombards you!!! Then he lets you chill. Then, BLAM! Another courtly dance, then God only knows what comes down. It does, suddenly. The longing, haunting theme returns to be ingeniously bounced around and transformed into a beautiful creation I can't describe. Now all hell is breaking loose! For a moment. The trumps seem to lead to a prayerful respite. Leading to perhaps the greatest fugue I've ever heard. Certainly the bounciest! A perfect symphony? No. But it's Chuck full of innovation and creativity, as well as Romanticism most beautiful; which Bruckner is abjectly dismissed as not Romantic. Granted, his devotion to God supersedes the normal Romanticism. But it's there nonetheless..

@classicalmusicreference

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your very detailed comment.

From Wikipedia: Noted Bruckner conductor Eugen Jochum wrote in detail about the symphony's interpretive challenges, noting that, in contrast to the Seventh Symphony, "the climax... is not merely in the last movement but at the very end, in the chorale. ... The first, second and third movements seem almost a... vast preparation. ... The preparatory character applies especially to the first movement [whose] introduction ... is a large-scale foundation... destined to bear the weight of all four movements." As evidence, he detailed the way the introduction's thematic materials function in later movements, and said the interpreter "must direct everything towards the Finale and its ending... and continually keep something in reserve for the conclusion." Jochum also discussed the choice of tempo, and its relationships and modifications, as an element in achieving overall direction and unity throughout the symphony, regarding the quarter notes in the first-movement introduction as "the fundamental tempo". Also, he wrote that in the Finale's double fugue, "it is not enough to bring out themes as such [because] subsidiary parts would be too loud." To get the desired contrapuntal clarity, he detailed dynamic subtleties required. Jochum ascribed elements of Bruckner's orchestration, as well as his precise indications of articulation, to his familiarity with the organ.

This is wonderful. The 4th, 7th, and 8th symphonies are usually regarded as the best, and certainly more popular, but this one is enigmatic and thus interesting. What does the first movement mean? We find out in the last movement. I've always been a Bruckner/Skrowaczewski fan, but this is really great, too.

ヨッフムの大宇宙である。コンセルトヘボウもさすがの音である。圧巻の5番！このような音源を味わえて 本当に幸せです、ありがとうございます。

I know people who are not into classical music at all but stop-repeat the finale over and over again. This sequence of music makes you believe in god.

A very beautiful and difficult symphony. After listening to this, one needs to hear some Tchaikovsky.

Tomorrow 8am can't check in at 8as l have early appointment, will be afternoon, that should be 8am🙏 Great Symphony ✨🎶🎶@ Classical Music/ Reference 8;30am✨🎶🎶⭐⭐⭐⭐

Jochum uno de los últimos Kapellmeister, junto con Böhm, Karajan, Keilberth, Klemperer y Richter.

@Piflaser

3 жыл бұрын

and Kempe

Peut-être mon oeuvre symphonique préférée... Parmi la vingtaine d'enregistrements que j'ai auscultés (voir liste : enmotdiese.free.fr/a_audiotheque.htm#bruckner_5) celui de Jochum 1964 me paraît en effet de loin le plus abouti : tension, tenue des lignes, transparence, orchestre gorgé de sève et armé d'arêtes...

It took decades, but I FINALLY came to love this symphony. I've long considered the 8th his greatest. The 5th could've been Bruckner's greatest, with some rewriting. It is unnecessary long. Nonetheless,fulfilling.

@gezobel

3 жыл бұрын

I once read that what you think must be 'greatest' Bruckner symphony always seems to be the one you have just heard :-) ... and, to me, all the symphonies are, if anything, too short, but I know what you mean about the Fifth, it does have its rather wearying parts ... but the Finale, oh that Finale!

I hear the depth of the bass strings...a penetration

Splendide , merveilleuse et pénétrante interprétation qui avec celle de Celibidach atteint un sommet rarement atteint par sa profondeur, toutefois plus intellectuelle que spirituelle, dont on se gardera de dire qu'elle est insurpassable pour ne pas insulter l'avenir.En tout cas une date magique par son intériorité dans l'interprétation brucknérienne de la V ème.

@classicalmusicreference

5 жыл бұрын

Rien n'est figé bien entendu, nous attendons la futur nouvelle perle :-)

I'm thinking of doing an extensive paper on either Bruckner's 5th or 8th. Do you know any Bruckner books that can help me with my research?

@classicalmusicreference

5 жыл бұрын

just in french

@Felipe.Taboada.

5 жыл бұрын

The Cambridge Companion to Bruckner by John Williamson. book4you.org/book/2931723/7c3abd Bruckner's Symphonies: Analysis, Reception and Cultural Politics by Julian Horton is also a valuable source. book4you.org/book/977544/855b02

@johnlilt

4 жыл бұрын

'The Essence of Bruckner' by Robert Simpson - a superb book!

Desde 1:05 es imposible permanecer sentado.

1:08:00

Question: what do you think about the no. 0 symphony by haitink in 1966?

@classicalmusicreference

5 жыл бұрын

The first symphony is actually the third :-) The first two were considered a school work, they remained in his drawer. He first came to public notice as a symphonist with his First Symphony (third). Best :-)

@pietstamitz1

5 жыл бұрын

Felipe Taboada, die Nullte is written after the first.. many great conductors have played it, it is a really valid and very beautiful work of Bruckner..of a more intimate and lyrical character..it deserves not being discarded as a "study" symphony... Bruckner, however said "diese Symphonie ist ganz ungultig" Haitink plays it very wel.. it deserves such a performance. and in my opinion, it's even better than the first.

@Felipe.Taboada.

5 жыл бұрын

@@pietstamitz1 thanks man!

L'interprétation de Jochum est légendaire et extraordinaire de puissance. Mais je préfèrerai toujours Celibidache avec l'orchestre philharmonique de Munich, qui mêle puissance et sensibilité à la perfection. Les deux versants d'une montagne : Bruckner !

So many conductors fall into the trap to suddenly broaden the tempo at the climax of the Finale. Jochum sadly makes the same mistake. It needs to soar like an eagle, and in order to achieve this one has to keep the pace as Bruckner intended. There is no ritenuto in the score. Listen to Inbal's recording. He gets this right.

Bizarrerie affectant cet enregistrement : à t = 11mn + 10s j'entends très distinctement sur ma chaîne audio comme une sonnerie de téléphone - qui dure 1 s - et ce sur le canal de gauche. C'est tellement réaliste que j'ai effectivement d'abord cru que cela provenait de mon téléphone. Sur KZread via le casque de mon PC, je l'entends aussi mais beaucoup moins distinctement (à mon avis, on ne l'entend pas si on n'est pas mis au courant). Avez-vous une idée de ce que c'est ?

@darrylschultz9395

Жыл бұрын

That was me in the audience ringing me mum to say, "Hi-Just ringin' to see if this annoys a few listeners!".

@philippemartineau4314

Жыл бұрын

@@darrylschultz9395 Merci de ce renseignement. L'énigme est donc résolue 🙂

The finale is too fast.

Scintillating

Sorry but the brass sound weak and out of tune....

@mk5244

4 жыл бұрын

....with a verdict like that my personal judgment would be at public risk and noticing „brass out of tune and weak“ under the baton of Maestro Jochum seems a clear hint of deficient audio in my home. I would certainly check that. RDS

I'm a Jochum fan, particularly for Bruckner. But this is disjointed in too many parts, and bombastically banal in others. I much prefer THE perfect 5th by Hatink/ Concertgebow,.

A very beautiful and difficult symphony. After listening to this, one needs to hear some Tchaikovsky.

@paulheffron4836

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I like to contrast this with Mozart as was done when I went to hear the Bruckner 5th in Boston. Maybe Tchaikovsky should follow as I sense you love them all.