The truth is that it doesn't matter who the champion is if the rest of the show sucks.

@AlexThorn

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@jamesmiller5331

3 жыл бұрын

They weren't pushing him big-time either. I used to watch the Saturday Morning Show all the time back then and you could go weeks without really even knowing who the champion is.

I don't care what anyone says. Kevin Nash was the toughest guy to ever destroy a dock in Secret of the Ooze.

@codyeveryday5432

4 жыл бұрын

Also the tuffest Waldo to fight the punisher

@rexsexson5349

4 жыл бұрын

L🤣L

@bmf222002

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao, it was kevin clash. Still a big guy but not kevin nash.

@woodyburns

4 жыл бұрын

bmf222002 It was Nash playing both of those parts. Kevin Clash was a puppeteer

@woodyburns

4 жыл бұрын

THEN SO BE IT!!!

94 Heel Diesel > 95 Face Diesel

@snellsman

4 жыл бұрын

96 Heel Diesel >

The Diesel from November 1995-April 96 was awesome. He was a great tweener until his last tv appearance at April's good friends better enemies ppv in Omaha,Nebraska vs HBK. his 1996/1997 nWo character was what he should've been in the WWF

@SupaStah01

4 жыл бұрын

Good point, agreed.

@comradelarry2558

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I was getting back into wrestling as a kid around that time after kinda losing interest sometime in 93. Nitro brought me back and I was shocked to see Diesel as the top guy over on Raw (he was just a bodyguard when I stopped watching) but his tweener act and eventual heel turn was solid gold.

@DarrenH001

3 жыл бұрын

It's a shame the head office didn't learn their lessons. Instead, once they began lining up Michaels for the top spot in '96, they similarly neutered him by lumbering his image with Jose Lothario.

@mbryanthomas

2 жыл бұрын

@@SupaStah01 ooo

@dantecarroll2435

2 жыл бұрын

He was a tweener until he turned on Shawn Michaels right before wrestlemania 12 that’s when he turned full blown heel

When he turned on Bret he was at his best. Kind of a stone cold character

@smedz4life168

4 жыл бұрын

NostalgiaMan survivor series 95 after nash dropped the title to bret

@jamief1263

4 жыл бұрын

I still maintain Diesels as a heel worked. He should have been booked as a monster heel champion.

@BobbyDigital59

4 жыл бұрын

NostalgiaMan probably meant Shawn and said Bret by mistake because of Bret Michaels lol

Scott Hall carried some weight in the Outsiders.

@tomvu1470

3 жыл бұрын

Kevin couldn't even carry his 'Quads'....

@sese6227

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Hall's charisma was undeniable, & he was a master of wrestling psychology.

@tomvu1470

3 жыл бұрын

@@sese6227 He learned alot from his good friend Curt Henning I believe.

@drvn8

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomvu1470 yeah a lot of guys credit Curt Hennig for their success in wrestling. Nobody put opponents over like Curt Hennig.

Yes, who remember all his classics against....Mabel.

@Ori0n1975

3 жыл бұрын

* shudder *🤢

I always thought having Backland drop the belt so soon and in such a quick fashion just made it obvious he was meant to be a transitional champion. It was so blatant that it didn't help Diesel either. They all but handed him the belt.

@Marcelg13

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but having Bob Backlund as a Champion really showed that WWF was behind the time.

The fans didn't want the diesel with the Roseanne theme song and the good guy character. Should have kept the diesel who eliminated all those guys at the 94 rumble. Edgy diesel

@snellsman

4 жыл бұрын

That Roseanne music was awful lol

Yea. I don't think it's fair to blame Kevin Nash for low attendance. People turned away from wrestling in droves during 93-95. Didn't matter who they put the belt on. The result would be the same.

@carpenter155

Жыл бұрын

93-mid95 was a dark time for WWE. Going back watching both on the network I find that WCW’s southern tongue and cheek style was more entertaining than the childish cartoonish characters of WWE. Only ‘real’ character they had was Razor everyone else at the time was kinda cartoonish. Nothing on the performers just shitty characters. NWO needed to happen and honestly the way the story is told it’s like it was all an act of fate.

@PracticeMakesPaper

Жыл бұрын

@@carpenter155 I think HBK & Bret Hart were real characters also

The way they had Backlund drop the belt to him was crap.

@marmcd2003

4 жыл бұрын

Backlund should have never won the belt him as a heel is so cringy, face it Bob can't cut a promo to save his life.

@giBMarlon

4 жыл бұрын

totally agree

@AlbertonBeastmaster

4 жыл бұрын

It was very on the nose that they just used him to get the belt from Bret to Diesel.

@SupaStah01

4 жыл бұрын

You guys have to consider that Backlund was the champion for years just a decade prior. Also, Bob was legit and would have SSTRrrreettchhHHED the hell out of Nash in a shoot match, or anyone else in the fed at the time. ALSO, the WWF was playing off of the 40 year old George Forman heavyweight boxing title win. It made sense at the time

@SupaStah01

4 жыл бұрын

I also have to disagree that Backlund couldn't cut a promo. When he "snapped" and was putting that cross face chicken wing on people, the promos were entertaining and believable

I still absolutely LOVE heel 95-96 Diesel.

very interesting vid, thanks!

The numbers don’t lie. All of wrestling at that time was dropping in numbers. Monday night wars was the best thing to happen to wrestling

Should have kept belt on crazy Backlund longer!

I was one of the 7000 at the Garden that night. It was cool to see it live.

@jnc121978

6 ай бұрын

Same here, was awesome and unexpected. Loved it as a kid. But made no sense looking back today. No build up and was not a true face on TV yet. Backlund probably should have held the belt for a month or 2.

Business was down all the across the board. Every promotion was down. This was between the boom period in the 80s and the Austin/Rock era.

@jb0609

3 жыл бұрын

poor excuse

Big Daddy Cool Diesel was the SHIZNIT! HE WAS BAD ASS! SO COOL I REMEMBER PLAYING WITH MY TOYS & I ALWAYS HAD A DIESEL LIKE CHARACTER WHO WOULD EVEN USE POWERBOMB AS A FINSHER.

In modern day, Deisel reminds me a lot of Roman Reigns. Two guys that could have been the right guy but showed up at the wrong time and were supported by the wrong people who made all of the wrong decisions.

@randyrichardson1542

4 жыл бұрын

True

@screamingtreefrogs3298

4 жыл бұрын

He showed up at the perfect time. They were done with Hogan and Warrior couldn't run with the ball. They tried going with a vanilla midget in Bret and that bombed too. It was the business as a whole that was in the crapper at the time. Wasn't until the nWo came along (who Nash was apart of) and kicked off the Attitude Era when everything spiked again.

@douglasjarnagan3835

4 жыл бұрын

@@screamingtreefrogs3298 NWO took off because Hogan turned heel and that made everyone turn their heads. Hogan made the WWF in the 80s, and then Hogan made NWO and WCW in the late 90s. Nash was just along for the ride. And simply put, business in the crapper or not, Nash didn't get it done even though he was given a year to try and turn things around.

@Director2024

4 жыл бұрын

tubehows4life It is no doubt that Hogan made it bigger than anyone else could have.

@elvisrosado2134

4 жыл бұрын

Douglas- vanilla m8dget, and nash was the big dumb idiot. Only Mark's like you cheer for a power bomb. How did nash have any more character or ring ability compared to hart?

It didn't help that he won it from 1) a house show, & 2) against Bob Backlund. I remember when he won it and being like "wtf"? I was only 10 years old. He should have won it for the first time at the first In Your House against Sid. It would have made for a bigger impact that meant more

@gerilynnlaporte9346

4 жыл бұрын

I understand what you mean by having a title change on tv or ppv where millions of eyes are watching but the WWF has a history of title changes on house shows for the reason of trying to get people out to the arena's to up live event business. The slogan was ....ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WWF

@EGarrett01

3 жыл бұрын

Good point, no build-up for his title win, no visibility for it, and no one gave him a rub either. Just like Bret's win in 1992 actually. That's just kneecapping your new champion right out of the gate.

@vincesmith2499

2 жыл бұрын

So Sid should have been champion?

@joepat2788

Жыл бұрын

Should have kept belt on the crazy Backlund

@joshuasteward6097

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. And the way he won the IC and tag titles in 1994 didn't establish him as a top guy. They were just handed to him.

I grew up in the 90s and I still say it to this day Diesel should of never turned babyface

Thank you for this, I hate history revisionists acting as if this is all on Kevin. Especially now when you bring to light that numbers were going down with Bret, their sweetheart.

@dantecarroll2435

2 жыл бұрын

The business was down as a whole it didn’t matter who the champion was at the time you nimrod the wrestling business was in a slump because of all of the scandals that happened in the early to mid 90’s such as the steroid scandals ringboy

Diesel was capable of good matches. The guy looks and acts like a major star. So you can see why he was positioned as a top guy. Which is exactly what he became. The direction of his face character wasn't great but the choice to feature him was a good one.

@SupaStah01

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. In a world of Bob Hollys, body donnas, and Duke Droseys, Nash was def a stand out lol

@gerilynnlaporte9346

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I think Kevin Nash gets a bad rap for his 1995 title run but he didn't have much to work with. I think whomever the champion was, would not have drawn. By 94,95 all the top stars of the time had left for wcw or elsewhere.

@alphatrion100

4 жыл бұрын

I think he doesnt have it.

@kelman727

4 жыл бұрын

He didn’t draw.

@jakelang806

4 жыл бұрын

He was? Name one that stands out?

Kevin Nash wasn’t a smiley babyface. He was either a vicious heel with a major edge, or a cool babyface that could take your woman with a look, and kick your ass night after night, and you would brag about it. Diesel should never kiss babies and shake hands. He’s the coolest guy in the room. He just looks it

@herbert9241

4 жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself. He wouldn't kick my 'ass' however much charm he has with the ladies.

@countof3everybodyOD

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus fanboi settle down

When they started calling him "Big Daddy Cool" I checked out. Whoever thought that one up should have had the taste slapped out of their mouth.

@gerilynnlaporte9346

4 жыл бұрын

I believe Shawn Michaels came up with the name. He started calling him that way before he was champion. I think it fit his personality but then Vince had to shove it down our throats

@jakelang806

4 жыл бұрын

But you liked big sexy?

@del7538

4 жыл бұрын

@@jakelang806 Didn't watch wcw.

@robertormsbee6428

4 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely correct plus that sounds just like what HBK would say 100%

@snellsman

4 жыл бұрын

geri lynn laporte 😂

Fun fact: He still outdrew Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Kofi Kingston, Kurt Angle and Seth Rollins.

@countof3everybodyOD

4 жыл бұрын

Saying Kevin Nash ‘outdrew’ Angle or Eddie is moronic. Limiting it to their title runs is stupid because we all know the best draws don’t need a belt

@dibslin985

4 жыл бұрын

@@countof3everybodyOD The problem with that is that the main champion is, in theory, also the face of your company and that you WANT him to be a big draw. Those other guys I mentioned simply weren't/aren't worthy of being world champions.

@dibslin985

4 жыл бұрын

@@countof3everybodyOD But keep making excuses for the smark favorites that the masses don't pay to see.

"You're trying to make chicken salad..." So, Jerry Jarrett was still there?

This interview had to be before Jinder Mihal or Jack Swaggers title run

@jesusleyva4386

4 жыл бұрын

According to Dave Meltzer research, Swagger was one of the biggest drawing world champions. He was such a big draw, the company never put the belt on him again

Kevin Nash was always good on the mic but, pretty boring in the ring. Dont get me wrong, I'm definitely a fan but, I dont really remember Diesel being anything special. Dug his falling out with Michaels but, none of his other programs were really that great.

@kevinomalley1145

4 жыл бұрын

"He had 6 moves if you include the hair flip" - Jim Cornette

@dibslin985

4 жыл бұрын

In-ring product isn't what sells tickets though. Eddie and Benoit, two of the most beloved smark favorites, were considerably lower draws than Nash based on live attendance.

@louclarkson6098

4 жыл бұрын

Bret and taker got good matches out of him.

@EGarrett01

3 жыл бұрын

When he first won the title, he wasn't good on the mic either. Watch his first interview as champion. He was terrible. Couldn't work or talk. Was just tall.

@Biggie2829

3 жыл бұрын

Nash matches were entertaining and had huge pops at least, plus he possessed the best finishing move of all time

The current champ (the guy Bruce is in charge of) is actually now the lowest drawing and rated champ of all time.

@ronniejdio9411

3 жыл бұрын

Boom

Kevin still doesn’t know the difference between a wrist lock and a wrist watch

@jrsmith1998

4 жыл бұрын

Kay Steve yes he does.

i personally love mid 90s WWF. 94-99 is my favorite 5 year stretch

may be a minority opinion. but i loved the 1994 survivor series wwf championship match. i love being shocked and i was in utter disbelief when backlund won the belt

@whtevr84

3 жыл бұрын

Bret vs Backlund (excluding the WM 11 match) is an underrated feud altogether, genuinely interesting characters, interesting storyline, Bob was fire and was intriguing, Bret was a great babyface, it played off Bret and Owen's feud perfectly, it was just never booked properly on the back end Bret vs Backlund at their first Superstars encounter and Survivor Series 1994 had legit great matches, a pretty good one at a RAW at the tail end of 1995 also...also an underrated tag match in 1995 with Bret/Bulldog vs Owen/Backlund I see fans online all the time remembering how cool and intriguing that feud was from 1994, it deserves more accolades universally

@ronniejdio9411

3 жыл бұрын

Bob was on fire as a heel. He should have gotten a run w the title a few months longer

The transition from the Cartoonishuh characters and occupation

U know what my sister shaleen said?

I agree I totally agree with Bruce

It’s 100% the company’s fault. This is how he should’ve been booked. “A monster face” So The Royal Rumble he beats Bret clean in the ring with his Jackknife. Shawn Michaels he should’ve went over clean and without the ref with a twisted ankle shenanigans. I remember this era well. I didn’t consider Shawn at that time to be a legitimate threat to diesel, because diesel was his bodyguard. I suspect to that’s why the company paired Shawn with Sid. So Already in the first quarter of 1995 diesel flukes a win over Shawn and has a draw with Bret. Diesel is 7ft and looked a legitimate baddass. From There the company couldn’t even give Diesel a clean win over Waylon Mercy or the British Bulldog. I still think Diesel should’ve lost to Hart at Survivor Series, but can you imagine how much that win Solidifies Hart if he lost clean back in January? Hart would’ve been more of an underdog and had more crowd support. Likewise with Shawn at good friends better enemies. We would’ve seen Diesel as the monster who Shawn couldn’t beat as a face last year. Diesel was booked as a champ who fluked his way through 1995 I challenge anyone to tell me another wrestler that could’ve kept the crowd if he was booked this poorly.

These two: tension mania With Corny: totally relaxed.

Isn't Kevin Nash the same guy who called Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit "the worst champions"? The latter name, we can't revere, but Nash believing he was any better? Scott Hall would've been a better drawing champion than Nash

Bret Hart promos put everyone asleep for a couple years

@kagemaru259

Ай бұрын

Bret himself has admitted for years that he was bad on the mic and with promos. It’s probably the one negative thing he ever said about his wrestling skills.

If this were Bret Hart everyone and their grandmother would repeat it over and over again.

@BizzyIzzy87

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong, every excuse would be made for Bret.

@ronniejdio9411

3 жыл бұрын

1. Everyone repeats this 2. Guess who is the second worst draw ever ? Brett

He wasn't ready for it and they kinda had him on a leash they could put him in a program with backlund who could have made him look good but really it should have been Taker or even Lawler I think with the belt

In Hindsight, 93 through to 2003 was the best decade in wrestling, great memories.

@jaythor70

Жыл бұрын

Well, opinions vary, but you obviously didn't watch the territories stuff in the 80s. WCCW, JCP, Mid-South/UWF were incredible story-telling places, with great action, and classic feuds. Atlanta, Memphis, Florida, Continental/Southeast, and Portland were also great, so those who watched said, I just didn't have access to them.

1995 had some highlights, but by and large it was really a sad time for WWF. I don't know if I agree with Bruce, that 'exposing' that Diesel was named Kevin Nash was such a hit. But they watered down the character to their own detriment.

He was booked bad when he gotten the belt. So shit was going to be hard

Is that dirt being dumped looping in the background...? Burying? Lol

It's a miracle the WWF survived 1995. You can't blame ANYONE who held the WWF title at that time.

Nash had no one to work with. So it wasn't entirely his fault. The only person who could challenge him was Sid and they had the one match and it didn't do business. Look at the roster in 1995, who could he have worked with (far as top heels)? The only other person he might have been able to draw with was Undertaker and they didn't want to turn him heel.

@YEAHBIGGIECHEESE

4 жыл бұрын

Owen Hart!

@YEAHBIGGIECHEESE

4 жыл бұрын

Yoko def shouldn’t have been shot down! But yeah not too many heels

@thepunditspundit1776

4 жыл бұрын

The Magnificent Mongo Slade Should have been well past that stupid mindset on the turning face/heel thing. Taker for six months with a good story, Shawn for 5 with a good story, and Bret till he takes the belt would have drawn plenty.

@attiepollard7847

4 жыл бұрын

Nash had owner, Bret, bulldog, taker, hbk and Razer. Nash issue was he just did not want to put in the work that much when he was champ.

@thepunditspundit1776

4 жыл бұрын

He worked every night. Moves are not work, and people have to get that out of their heads

The business was down in the mid 90s

When you look at it in hindsight. If you talk bad about Kevin. Paul might get pissed.

I feel like Conrad is trying to low-key get a babyface turn of Meltzer in Bruce’s heart. It ain’t gonna work, Connie!

11 people are in a 29 year loan 👀

Diesel's reign was during my junior and senior years of high school. I actually liked him as champion, it's just he didn't have good opponents. Obviously Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart were great opponents, but he spent most of his reign going against Psycho Sid, Mabel, Jeff Jarrett, and Bob Backlund who weren't.

Still remember Cornette unloading on him during his RAW burial, but damn if I don’t remember the big man facing Mabel and taking pretty big bumps, flying over the top rope at him, could’ve really f’d himself up there and ya gotta give the big guy some kudos

The real question is why tf was Bob Backlund the champion

@gerilynnlaporte9346

4 жыл бұрын

@ROCNMEDIA Bob Backlund was the transitional champion to get the title from Bret to Diesel. He was just the go between, that's all

@MrRyan-wu4jx

4 жыл бұрын

Probably because he had already been champion for years and they didn’t want a guy like Owen or Crush or somebody to be in the record books as a one time WWF champion who only held the belt for 4 days.

Not even Hulk Hogan would have drew in that time period between 1993 and 1996, no one drew pretty much from mid 1992 until Scott Hall jumped to WCW and they began The New World Order storyline. In Diesel’s defence though Vince McMahon stripped Diesel of everything he was that got him over and tried to push him as the new Hulk Hogan after they failed doing the same with Lex Luger. Vince was so desperate for a new Hulk Hogan that everyone (Bret, Shawn, Luger and Diesel) was pushed as that type of top babyface until Steve Austin broke the mould and the type of character people wanted to see that would draw was pushed and Austin broke all kinds of drawing records, problem has always been Vince pushes who HE wants and what HE wants regardless of what the FANS or VIEWERS want.

@officespace7777

4 жыл бұрын

All true. Vince refused to realize that Hogan and 80's wrestling revenue was a one off. But greed kept him pushing the old formula. He should have took the pay cut. Ran smaller venues. And just be happy he was making money. I would have enjoyed more compelling storylines and matches, then him constantly trying to make another Hulk Hogan.

Should have done Bret V Diesel at wrestlemania that year and did the change that way

I will say this: Kevin was still young and still learning at the time. He gained experience, confidence and mic skills by the time he got to WCW. I think he did well after that and I did enjoy a bit of it. However... There is no bigger mark for Kevin Nash than Kevin Nash. I have seen many, many shoot interviews with him. They are often entertaining, but his adulation for himself and the little boys club known as the clique is annoying. Too cool for school and had no regard for how their backstabbing actions affected many workers' livelihoods.

Diesel won the title off Bob Backlund, that's really all you need to know about how things were when he won the title. It was at its lowest point possible when he took the belt....at a house show.

Considering how instantly over he got when he was allowed to be Kevin Nash in NWO tells you he wasn’t the problem, the Diesel character and how he was presented was. I loved WWF but they botched Diesel.

@jesusleyva4386

4 жыл бұрын

It's stupid how popular Nash was in the Wolfpac. When I was in high school in 1998, the most popular wrestlers in WCW were Nash and Goldberg. All the kids thought they were cool as fuck

@rexsexson5349

4 жыл бұрын

Nah Nash's knees botched him. His mic work got him there. But his knees held him back. Knees, quads or whatever. He almost never wrestled in wcw, even in a wrestling match. His humor got him over i.e. hbk and hhh

@comradelarry2558

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah in 98 Austin, Goldberg, and Nash were the top three most over guys in the business. Sting had lost steam after they botched Starrcade stuff, and The Rock was just starting to get there.

@jesusleyva4386

4 жыл бұрын

@@comradelarry2558 DDP was popular too

@snellsman

4 жыл бұрын

Larry Bowman right

Kevin Nash... The great and powerful!

Backlund would have been a perfect transitional champ if people hadn't learned that Diesel was champ on the same show that they found out Bob beat Bret. They were trying to push TNG and the whole out with the old/in with the new. That's great, but do it in front of more than 7000 people. Heck they could have done it on Raw if they wanted it done that quickly. An hour and a half of crazy Backlund promos and putting whipper snappers in the chicken wing backstage, before Diesel vanquishes him in 15 seconds. Think of the visual that would have had, with TV going off the air showing Backlund crawling to the back and Diesel holding the strap.

Dude when they put the belt on him, the wrestling business was already at its lowest point of all time where all wrestling companies were struggling. I mean, Diesel’s first Wrestlemania as champion was held in the freaking Hartford Civic Center and he was on the roster with guys like Mantar, “make a difference” Fatu, Duke the Dumpster during those times. 1995 was probably the worst year the WWF/E has ever had in its history, Certainly in the 40+ years Vince has owned it.

Well Now that title can go to Drew Mcyntire and whoever holds the title after him.

@hawksfan5

3 жыл бұрын

yep

In fairness to Nash the business was in a bust period and time is the only thing that turns that around. Whoever they’d put the belt on would have experienced much the same.

It’s kinda funny that Scott Hall was never The Champ

@drvn8

3 жыл бұрын

What if... they made the Diesel-HBK feud lead up to a grudge match at WrestleMania (no belts, just a match), which is what it should've been? Bret gets the World belt back from Backlund at Rumble? Scrapped the Jarrett stuff, and had Razor drop the IC belt to Owen Hart at Royal Rumble? Razor later competes in and wins the Rumble? WrestleMania main event: Bret Hart vs. Razor Ramon... Razor wins in a highly contested battle? Razor feuds with Owen? Sid returns as a heel to feud with Bret? Bulldog? Shawn? Diesel? Razor? 1995 had so much potential and they just blew it all on Diesel and Shawn.

Diesel's run in WWF was less than stellar, but when it got to WCW the guy really bloomed into what he could be. Politics aside, the guy was talented and knew how to leverage himself to be a draw.

@pjay213

3 жыл бұрын

He won IC, Tag and HW title in his first year.

Diesel would have worked way better in 94-95 as a monster heel trading the belt back and forth in 1995 with Bret. look at the pop Bret got at mania 95 in Hartford it was the biggest for any performer they had by far.

He wasn't built properly. Look at the guys who held the title before and after his reign. Bret, Shawn and even Taker. They had been around for years and had built a rapport with the fans. Nash had been around barely over a year and none of it as a face. Maybe if he stayed heel he could have had a run similar to Yokozuna who also won the title pretty fast but no, they tried to make him the face of the company literally the day Nash tuned face.

Lowest draw? No no he was so low because he tore both quads

I know I’m going to get all sorts of shit for saying this but I kinda enjoyed WWF/E in 1995. Okay, look here’s some context. I watched wrestling from 1994-2001. I began watching during the 1994 Survivor Series and stopped watching in 2001 shortly after the Invasion PPV. I think it might be because when I think of WWF 1995 I associate it with the good times that were 1995 in general. I don’t know.

Jinder Mahal lowest drawing WWE champion

Kevin Nash was a glorified sidekick. Sable was more over than Diesel.

@kingofkings040492

2 жыл бұрын

This is a dumb comparison. Sable was more over then 98% of the roster during attitude era. Rock Austin aside.

@Learningisfree808

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingofkings040492 it’s accurate. He was WWF champion(the top title) and he was unpopular by every metric. He should have stayed in the background in a stable where he belonged.

WWE needs to switch to HBO or a ppv only format. Sorry kids.

I was there in 94’ when Diesel won the strap. 3 issues with that his run 1.Diesel should have always been heel 2. Diesel had the belt way too long 3. Not enough top talent too work with The “ Big Daddy Cool “ that they added was awkward af when Vince would scream that on commentary

What they never point out is how wwf never changed with the times the when the new generation was going on the kids from the 80s were teenagers listening to Nirvana and gangsta rap so they weren't into the silly character the wwf had. Bret was a great champion cause he can have a great match with anyone and make them look great while Nash has to have certain opponents to have a decent match.

If they let Nash be the Diesel he was when he came in , as Prichard discusses he may have done better. But they wanted a typical big Hoganesque face then. Business was changing really by this point and grew tired of the same WWF deal. Its always been said they waited a year too long to put the belt on Shawn as people wanted it.

They kept going back to Bret. Even in late 97. Bret should’ve passed it to Steve at 14. Shame Vince would’ve rather blew Shawn every night

He should never gone face. He was awesome as a heel in 94.

Def NOT the lowest around 2008 and up. The guys these days cant draw anything

@dirkh1733

4 жыл бұрын

There was a drop in 2003, then in 2005 till now it’s been shit. It’s been 17 years of of a nose dive.

@gerilynnlaporte9346

4 жыл бұрын

Today's "SUPERSTARS" couldn't draw fly's if they were covered in shit

@Ori0n1975

3 жыл бұрын

I never thought I would look back fondly on 95, but this era's drizzling shit product made me do it.

Nash/Diesel has always been slow and sloppy. His height and look made him champion in the first place.

I honestly believe that Razor shouls have gotta a push especially during this time. HBk Ravor Brat Disel Undertaker all going for the belt for a yr or 2. Shit u can even Sid as well. That way its 2 Three way showdowns or how ever they wanted to play it. Sid had Ted talking for him with 124 Kid by his side. Ok let me stop....

Compared to who the rock and stone cold fuck yeah but there are so many people I've talked to who were fans in the 90's and they almost all unanimously say kevin nash was their favorite fucking diesel this is ridiculous to even say most shawn fans weren't passionate on him being an all time great until he came back in 02 and was still the showstopper we all loved but kevin nash was that guy in the 90's might've not been THE top guy but he was one of em for sure

And I remember it differently I remember we were pissed as fans when diesel lost he was my favorite wrestler he lost the belt and then went to WCW is the most upset thing I ever seen and we were bored with Bret Hart put it this way whenever we wrestled around the house no one wanted to be bred hard they wanted to be diesel Shawn Michaels The Rock Stone Cold red heart just wasn't really ever the guy

Well then WCW Nitro did served a purpose. Not like I never knew it since day 1 but logical speaking, Not only did it saved WWF in the fall of 95, but it saved the entire business from going extinct. Who would have knew, business will pick up a year later and sky rocket, surpassing the Golden Era in 2 yrs. Also it seems to me and I hate to say it but Bret on paper was coming off as a transitional Champ. Placed holder until they found "their guy". When he was the guy all that time!

People dont understand that you cant just blame the Champion for low Ratings. There are so many factors that are involved in it like bad booking, uninteresting Characters or Pop Culture for example. It really didn´t matter who they put the belt on. The Product in the early 90s was pretty much still the Product of the 80s with Cartoony Gimmicks and it just didnt adapt before they went edgier.

You know what else falls on creative? The trash you're producing right now in the business. Maybe we'll get a karaoke contest where the winner has to tear out the other contestants eyes on Smackdown this week.

@clintsaines9274

3 жыл бұрын

They don't care. You keep watching it.

Bruce refuses to criticize anyone in the clique. Much like Bischoff with hogan. Usually means Bret catches most of the blame

It took Michaels or Bret to have good matches with Nash. Guy was also soft missed many bookings because of very minor stuff anybody else goes ahead and wrestles.

BIG DADDY COOL DIESEL#1

He was never matched up with anyone that could draw money

I always thought Diesel was cool as fuck

Nice touch with the video screen. A payloader dropping a huge load of cow manure in a Diesel trailer. "The Shits"

Definitely wasn't on Nash. WWF was bleeding talent and not developing anyone that wasn't a cartoon character. For fuksake, a Main Event for the Title on PPV was against Bob fuking Backlund. I am honestly impressed that Hart, HBK, Taker and such managed to keep the boat floating at all.

Actually the lowest drawing was Eddie.

He couldn't draw money if you were to shower him with green crayons and a piece of paper

@BizzyIzzy87

3 жыл бұрын

Except he did, and it showed in WCW.

@allencollins5666

9 ай бұрын

​@@BizzyIzzy87The SMARKS Suck.

When he was champ I was 13 and I thought Big Daddy Cool was a badass. He was my favorite wrestler at that time. I was disappointed when he lost the belt, made the heel turn and eventually left for WCW. I was always amped up every time I heard that classic Diesel theme.

Finally someone said it. Bret Hart was NOT a draw as champion

Dre McDuck is now the lowest drawing champion.

Bret's first run and backlund's run was worse drawing.