Britain’s New Fringe Parties Explained
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As Britain gears up for a general election this year, we turn the spotlight away from the establishment parties and focus on those on the fringes fighting to steal votes from the major players. So what is it that these small parties actually stand for?
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1 - www.electoralcommission.org.u...
2 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaim...
3 - www.theguardian.com/politics/...
4 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers...
5 - www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...
6 - www.thenational.scot/news/239...
00:00 Introduction
01:13 The Reclaim Party
02:56 The Workers Party
05:00 The Alba Party
07:09 Brilliant
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Fox got beat by a trolling KZreadr 😭
@SquidgyPixel
Ай бұрын
He got so salty with Max Fosh xD
@realhorrorshow8547
Ай бұрын
Last I heard, Fox submitted his paperwork for the Mayoral election with mere hours left before the deadline. So, if there was anything wrong there would be no time to fix it. There was something wrong. He won't be a candidate this time.
@zaksharman
Ай бұрын
@@SquidgyPixel I thought that was Niko Omilana?
@MrMister64
Ай бұрын
@@zaksharman both ran, Niko got more votes though.
@tomrogue13
Ай бұрын
Yeah Max can't second to last
Something fishy is going on between Salmon and Sturgeon, not sure exactly what it is yet.
@ASocialistTransGirl
Ай бұрын
fish are so cool 🐟🐟🐟🐠🐠🦈🦈
@gordonstrong5232
Ай бұрын
I do love a fish pun, sometimes I make one just for the halibut. (Yes, I did nick that off a penguin wrapper)
@bryanalexander2508
Ай бұрын
Let’s hope that can of worms isn’t opened any time soon…
@benji.3002
Ай бұрын
@@ASocialistTransGirlI've seen you in so many comment sections recently and it's great, go off girl!
@Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword
Ай бұрын
@@ASocialistTransGirlI love fish 🦈🐟🐠🐡
American Republicans get compared to British Conservatives, but Republicans and Reclaim sound way closer to each other
@frederickthegreat3912
Ай бұрын
Republicans are basically far right at this point, the Conservatives are far less extreme overall (of course both parties have a range of different views within them, but you get the idea)
@pretty7995
Ай бұрын
@@frederickthegreat3912 Lol republicans are nowhere near far right.
@swausgebouwen143
Ай бұрын
@@frederickthegreat3912''basically far right'' lmao
@wile123456
Ай бұрын
No, the conservatives are far right extreme. Sunak is full in on the racism and transphobia, and the rebels in the party keeps getting louder.
@Paul-bs5wl
Ай бұрын
@@frederickthegreat3912 Friendly reminder that the Republican platform on the national scale is effectively the Democrat platform from 30 years ago. The leftist parties are the ones that have changed, but I guess if you don't pay attention you might be convinced otherwise.
Britain will always be a two party system as long as first past the post isn't changed to another type of voting
@davidz2690
Ай бұрын
Well we did vote on it but the propaganda from the 2 parties it benefits was always going to be hard to beat
@Emsworth377
Ай бұрын
Yep, none of this matters until a system that supports proportional representation (such as MMP) is implemented
@nealrigga6969
Ай бұрын
After seeing how pathetic some of these smaller parties are like Reclaim, maybe we should just stick with the two parties
@celtic69
Ай бұрын
England*
@useodyseeorbitchute9450
Ай бұрын
@@nealrigga6969 Well, when think about it, especially with hindsight it opposing lockdowns may give them bragging rights...
2:30 imagine being beaten by a KZreadr
@yusaki8064
Ай бұрын
I voted for that KZreadr. A much better choice for mayor.
@Oxijinn_
Ай бұрын
I knew I recognised the name Laurence Fox, I find it somewhat karmic that he lost to a KZreadr in kids sunglasses.
@MajesticLGBT
Ай бұрын
@@yusaki8064based 🫡
@MajesticLGBT
Ай бұрын
@@Oxijinn_I love it. Fox is so big headed too. like you’d think losing to a KZreadr who’s not even trying to win, and also losing £10,000 would humble him. But no. He’s still at it. Still thinks he’s super popular with the “silent majority” he’s so annoying lol. All of this is just for his ego doesn’t care about anyone or anything.
@chesterdonnelly1212
Ай бұрын
@@Oxijinn_ Laurence Fox is now a KZreadr in sunglasses
Reclaim party is such an embarrassment that they were beaten by a KZreadr doing it for shits and giggles 💀
@wile123456
Ай бұрын
Neo-nazis live for taking L's
@Paul-bs5wl
Ай бұрын
Yep. In a shithole city with totally broken ethnic politics, a man opposing the rot with the entire media and political establishment against him managed to lose, big surprise. Even ignoring that, it is a more relevant reflection of how little people in London (probably under 25s) respect their role in their society that they voted for some guy they know off the internet who has no intention of taking his role seriously.
@hmishfiddy
Ай бұрын
Not surprised since the whole niko for mayor thing was extremely popular… Its not an embarrassment you just don’t understand politics bud
@bababababababa6124
Ай бұрын
@@hmishfiddy”bud” 🤓 Imagine voting Reclaim 💀
@Rho507
Ай бұрын
@hmishfiddy it was popular but you know who wasn't? Lawrence Fox
First past the post makes everyone except LAB CON virtually irrelevant. LAB CON could change this terrible system, but they hate each other LESS than the idea of opening up their duopoly to a new party/parties
@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501
Ай бұрын
There was a referendum on changing the system but people frightened into believing that this could usher in fringe parties. I say good. I believe that had UKIP gained seats, people would have been able to see how useless in power they are. In a way, through Brexit and Johnson's purge of moderate Tories, UKIP style Tories did get power and the result was, as we have seen, awful. Sadly, Farage and co have capitalised on this, using Tory failure as cover for their own policy failures.
@sfactory8253
Ай бұрын
They would form a grand coalition if threatened. Unless of course the Tories get completely wi ped out at the next election
@dafyddroff8084
Ай бұрын
Any party that wins an election has won their election on the back of FPTP so they have no incentive to change it to PR.
Labour have hardly been socially liberal, particularly on trans rights, to be fair.
Niko in a TLDR video
@slopernafti902
Ай бұрын
NDL
@ASocialistTransGirl
Ай бұрын
letsgo
@zhongcena
Ай бұрын
@@ASocialistTransGirl I've seen you before but can't remember where
@ASocialistTransGirl
Ай бұрын
@@zhongcena I am everywhere also in TLDR news’ comments a lot
Crazy that the guy with 20 SA cases just slipped away. Either he's a prolific rapist that escapes justice or someone organized a political attack using the judiciary. Either way someone should be in prison.
@howtoappearincompletely9739
Ай бұрын
For none of the charges to stick, the allegations must have been particularly weak.
@BurningTNT
Ай бұрын
@@howtoappearincompletely9739 depends on the nature of the allegations really. SA allegations can be hard to prove given how likely it is to be X says one thing happened, Y says it didn’t, there were no witnesses to reinforce either side. Unless someone comes clean, has accomplices that do, or someone happens to witness it and choose to say something then it comes down to he-said she-said which isn’t strong enough for.a court to convict. 20 allegations is a lot, though the wider political ongoings means it’s worth assessing whose making them and what the given occurences are. Outside a political setting, that many allegations means they’re probably not the quite unpleasant even if they mever do anything illegal.
@BurningTNT
Ай бұрын
*are probably unpleasant to be around even if they never do anything illegal, is what the last sentence was supposed to say
@Ohloveeh
Ай бұрын
@@BurningTNT And yet on the assault and breach of peace arguments he was found not guilty too.
@TheWebstaff
25 күн бұрын
Well given Sturgeon's record of association with criminals including her criminal husband who was in charge of the purse strings, it's safe to say those at the top of the SNP all smell funny. Salmon was lucky to get out before they crashed the ship.
2:28 Losing to Niko is probably a sadder thing than losing the deposit
Looking like green and reform will get around 25% of the vote and no more than a handful of seats between them. Democrazy.
@MatthewJBD
Ай бұрын
Same happened to UKIP a few elections ago.
@lenabo9929
Ай бұрын
To suggest it is undemocratic is crazy. The system is very much democratic, it asks people in a smaller geographical district what they prefer and the candidate that has the plurality takes the seat. In enhances a two party system according to Duvergers law. It is a majoritarian system at hart, which means it result in more higher likelyhood of a government straight after election. I'm fine with the criticism of majoritarian systems. Id rather have more proportionality, like a mixed system. But to suggest it is less democratic than proportional is stupid. People need to understand the system, and understand that if they vote for a party that is polling poorly in their constituency is fine but dont get annoyed if they dont get elected you could of voted for a larger party and it would not of been wasted. But on to the issue of proportional system. They do have benefits to allow a more wider proportion of populations views to be taken into account. However, then you are very rarely voting for a party based on what policy they will implement and more if you agree with them on the whole. Because coalitions can take time to form and there is no guarantee to get the policy a proportion of society want. Additionally, people will then need to learn that the outcome of the system is also different. The largest party is not guaranteed to govern. Like in Poland, which for many in the UK would be perceived as unfair. I bring this point up because if we changed you would get conservatives winning elections then complaining why are they not in government.
@ShieldToad-mk2rp
Ай бұрын
@@lenabo9929I disagree
@sfactory8253
Ай бұрын
@@lenabo9929 why is it no-one else uses it. Fptp has brought us disaster in the UK. Even Brexit Ref was decided with the UK basically half and half.
@MiningForPies
Ай бұрын
@@MatthewJBDUKIPs best ever result was just over 12%.
Niko coming in fifth in the London Mayoral Election will never not be funny
@pewgarpolls
29 күн бұрын
agreed
I find it interesting to the extent to which transgender issues constitute a unique wedge social topic in British politics. It splits and left and centre in a way it really doesn't in the US, because the issue is often framed more as sex-based vs. gender-based rights than as social conservatives vs. social liberals. It also touches on areas like the NHS and what constitutes hate speech, which are also obviously very different. The contrast between British and American political debate over the same topic, driven by the same cultural shifts, says a lot about other ways British and American politics differ.
@Mom-rx5sw
28 күн бұрын
The goverment telling you what "hate speech" constitutes is insane.
@martinholmes-ue9ko
10 күн бұрын
Most people do not care.
I guess they're called "Reclaim" because they're still trying to "reclaim" their deposit
@RoyalLegend1000
Ай бұрын
this is so real lol they lost to a yt who was just trolling (ok tbf he tried to make young people more intersed inn politics)
@BlueBird-wb6kb
Ай бұрын
You're just a hater, Reclaim would help Britain.
@pewgarpolls
29 күн бұрын
@@BlueBird-wb6kb nah, max fosh would
@idcgaming518
29 күн бұрын
@pewgarpolls what about Niko?
@boozecruiser
25 күн бұрын
@@BlueBird-wb6kb They'd help make a small number of awful people very rich at the cost of hurting British workers and harming our international reputation irrevocably
What about the Loony party? Big omission!
@owenfitzgerald5928
Ай бұрын
They arent new
@angiki9988
Ай бұрын
They are much too dignified a party to be lumped in with this lot.
@a-sea-of-salad5040
Ай бұрын
this video wasn't about major parties
@bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838
Ай бұрын
They already did a video years back I believe
@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957
Ай бұрын
which one? ho ho ho
I've read that another difference between the SNP and Alba is that Alba is not just calling for Scottish Independence, but for a Scottish Republic with a president modeled after the President of Ireland.
@lewissmith350
Ай бұрын
So would you say alba is maybe to the left of the snp on some issues, probably they will merge like Jim sillars party, one day, to the snp again. Unless pr suits them otherwise.
@dairebulson7122
Ай бұрын
Wait, is that to suggest SNP proposes keeping the monarchy for an independent Scotland, or at least is open to the idea? (And thus, Alba, being explicitly republican, is opposed to)
@joshuawells835
Ай бұрын
@@dairebulson7122 To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what kind of government the SNP desires for an independent Scotland. I have heard it described as repealing the 1703 Act of Union and having Charles III be King of England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland (Wales is part of the Kingdom of England) Edit-Upon further review, the SNP favors Scotland retaining the monarchy as a commonwealth realm, similar to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica (for now), etc...
@dglenday8705
Ай бұрын
@@joshuawells835 Thanks for looking into that. I'm in Scotland and was getting confused by the whole thing !
For what it's worth - the WPGB endorsement camt from CPGB-ML, not CPGB (easy mistake to make)
@michaelthompson679
Ай бұрын
The peoples front of judea apparently endorsed them too
@ComradeLibertarian
Ай бұрын
@@michaelthompson679 you mean the judean peoples front
@Sky-pg8jm
Ай бұрын
@@ComradeLibertarian No it was the Popular Front
@_MrMoney
Ай бұрын
@@Sky-pg8jmPEOPLE'S Front, the Popular Front are a bunch of splitters
@Mrjmaxted0291
Ай бұрын
The CPB actually. They sent a contingent down to support Galloway during the Rochdale by-election and ran positive coverage in the Morning Star. The CPGB-ML were originally in coalition with the Workers Party, and helped found it back in 2019. They later split due from the party due to an internal power struggle, which saw the Brars expel the sections that lead the WPB.
So basically, these are vanity projects of grumpy old men.
@rhynoctapus
Ай бұрын
Welcome to politics
@fusionsub
Ай бұрын
That's how political parties have been created and will continue to be created until the end of political parties as a concept
@howtoappearincompletely9739
Ай бұрын
Though Fox isn't that old, that's a depressingly accurate description.
@_Wakaz_
Ай бұрын
The Workers Party has a swiftly growing youth organisation actually.
@artrandy
Ай бұрын
If you're from Scotland, then that ageist remark should be reported under the new hate law..........
PR NOW!
@lenabo9929
Ай бұрын
You want PR what version because it matters. Full proportionality, or more of a mixed system like Scotland uses. I support having more proportionality, however, we need to agree on the system between all parties. And reform needs to wider than that. England in particular needs to take devolution much more seriously. The whole of the UK should either be federalised or have devolution. Westminster has far too much power. The lords need overhaul unsure best root for that.
@jackmonaghan8477
Ай бұрын
Electoral reform in general has been overdue for a while now. Unfortunately, neither of the two parties want it because that would mean the duopoly gets broken and they would have to start listening to the British public instead of their rich mates in the media, private sector and lobby groups. Hence why you'd have the Labour right and so-called "moderate" Tories doom-mongering about Reform UK getting seats (when in reality, they're more scared of the Greens and independent leftist parties) and the Tory hard right fearmongering about the "hard left" gaining seats (as demonstrated by Jacob Rees-Mogg's utter farce of a "case" against it).
@dafyddroff8084
Ай бұрын
@@lenabo9929100% agree
Gender reform has nothing to do with left or right wing, it sits on the progressive-traditionalist spectrum.
TUSC stand the most candidates out of all the alternatives left parties. Their omission here is disappointing.
@user-yf4gx9lw6c
Ай бұрын
TUSC is a great example but doesn’t have any elected MPs. For the sake of video length they’ve only focused on those that have representatives in parliament.
@Mrjmaxted0291
Ай бұрын
TUSC and the WPB have positive relations and observance of each other. With that said, TUSC have performed dismally up to this point, losing their deposits in contests up and down the country with their broad but ultimately rather shallow campaigns. It is actually rather fitting that TUSC have been omitted, as they're presently even more obscure that these other parties. There was a time when they could have been considered a contender in the socialist left wing space, but the WPB are now at this point on a similar footing to the Greens from a parliamentary standpoint, lifting them head and shoulders above any other fringe left wing effort.
@DeezN1892
25 күн бұрын
TUSC have performed horribly. Everyone needs to jump ship to the BWP, a party with an actual elected MP. It's the only hope for genuine left wing represenation in british parliment as so far there is none. just liberal noise.
@user-yf4gx9lw6c
25 күн бұрын
@@DeezN1892 The Workers party are nothing with Galloway and will struggle for support if he loses his Rochdale seat. TUSC have fielded the 6th most local election candidates in the UK. How many have the Workers party put forward?
The trouble with the UK system is that especially since Tony Blair, labor and the Tories have been effectively the same policies just at slightly different speeds regarding everything from immigration to taxation. The American system used to have this problem particularly under Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, however it has since fixed this issue as the Republicans and Democrats now our two very different brands of crazy, hopefully something similar can happen in Britain.
please allow the smaller parties to win seats and put an end to this 2 party, corrupt, monopoly system. I'm voting for the Green party, any party willing to tax the rich and nationalise all public services including water, energy, and NHS gets by vote. Labour and Conservatives are both funded by rich private equity firms, as long as they stay in power this country will become highly unequal third world country
@Monkey-fv2km
Ай бұрын
to be fair though, any party that gains significant power will be corrupted by corporate influence...if the greens were in power they would see themselves gradually become a variation on Con. and Lab. with slightly differing superficial policies. And having a PR system over FPTP wouldn't improve the corruption in itself, if other countries with such systems around the world are anything to go by.
@pewgarpolls
29 күн бұрын
NDL
@martinholmes-ue9ko
10 күн бұрын
"Please allow ....." ?
Plaid Cymru is the third largest political party in Wales, with 11 of 60 seats in the Senedd and 202 principal local authority councillors.
The mental strength to talk so neutrally about Lawrence Fox is incredibly impressive
You cited a policy labour abandoned to claim they are socially liberal...
@alistairmonro
Ай бұрын
Labour, and the Cons, don't know what they are anymore. Just depends which way the wind is blowing on that day. It's pathetic from them, and is for putting up with it. Tony Blair ruined UK politics.
@ThatOneGuy7550
26 күн бұрын
Lol exactly these guys are morons
@boozecruiser
25 күн бұрын
@@alistairmonro In what way do the Conservatives flip between socialist and right wing?
@alistairmonro
25 күн бұрын
@@boozecruiser either you don't follow politics, you don't know what left vs right is, or you are stuck in the Tories are bastard's mentality. They are all the same. Tories have been known for rebranding Labour policy. It's one of the reasons Starmer won't say anything beyond "we plan to make things better". It's all a facade there are no real options, there is no democracy.
@sorbbae620
24 күн бұрын
@@boozecruiser well in 2017 they were saying that "being trans is not an illness" and said they were "determined to end homophobic and transphobic bullying" but 7 years later the transphobic bullying is coming directly from the leader of the party! im sure they will go back to the 2017 rhetoric the moment being hateful and scapegoating stops working
When 1st past the post is still used. Britian is still a 2 party system.
@wenterinfaer1656
Ай бұрын
One-party system - totalitarian Two-party system - democracy
@gothicgolem2947
Ай бұрын
I would say two and a half given minority goverments
@Balibaliadashi
Ай бұрын
@@wenterinfaer1656The best one party system is a two party system.
@gillespaling7039
Ай бұрын
@@wenterinfaer1656South Africa has a one party system.
NEVER FORGET when the NDL led by a KZreadr won more votes than Laurence Fox's Party despite more than half of NDL's fans being ineligible to vote which would've thrashed Reclaim even more. 🤣🤣🤣
Mainstream parties: “Who are you?” Fringe parties: “I am you but even more transphobic”
@alistairmonro
Ай бұрын
Like the rest of the population then?
@ronmastrio2798
Ай бұрын
The Lab Tory Uniparty loves troons.
@elpito9326
Ай бұрын
That's what pains me the most about Galloway and his party tbh...
@alistairmonro
Ай бұрын
@@elpito9326 trans and gays have some very strange allegiances. Mostly with people that hate you. It's bizarre.
@cheekypop
28 күн бұрын
@@elpito9326because he's against self-harm?
Left wing economic but socially moderate/conservative seems to be a very untapped demographic. If George Galloway wasn't so polarising then that formula could be deadly for labour.
@thesmithersy
Ай бұрын
True. The majority of the UK is conservative socially but its the economics that usually cause the divisions.
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710
Ай бұрын
Parties across Europe have seen a lot of success by tapping in on those voters (though they often go for far right socially)
@BlueBird-wb6kb
Ай бұрын
Left wing economic and conservative sounds amazing, I want a party like that for Australia though anti religious
@RextheRebel
25 күн бұрын
It's just a shame he's backed by the Islamists.
@boozecruiser
25 күн бұрын
@@BlueBird-wb6kb Finally, a party for kissless virgins
2:29 NDL RISE UP!!!
@ThomasAndRandomRobloxGames
Ай бұрын
yesssma'am
Weird to cite the Workers Party opposition to self-ID as an example of how they are more socially conservative than Labour, given that Labour also opposes self-ID, isn't it?
@_Wakaz_
Ай бұрын
The Workers Party is socially conservative insofar as they represent blue collar working class values: traditional family values, community, having our own industry, socialist patriotism, against liberal identity politics, against gender ideology, etc. A conservative socialism, if you will.
@Darkest_matter
Ай бұрын
@@_Wakaz_ That sounds like a IDEAL world.
@flippedpymgeo
Ай бұрын
@@Darkest_matteryeah ideal for stupid people
@ronmastrio2798
Ай бұрын
@@Darkest_matter Yeah a national socialism
@EdinburghPokemon
Ай бұрын
@@_Wakaz_ Oh right, so just a different economic approach to the usual right-wing politics.
George Galloway is a nut
@DeezN1892
25 күн бұрын
Galloway is pro human
@sladetuner8661
25 күн бұрын
If it benefit’s his political causes, just saying
@fiyum333
25 күн бұрын
@@DeezN1892 >anti-NATO and anti-EU >"pro-human"
@DeezN1892
25 күн бұрын
@@fiyum333 member states in the EU and especially NATO have orchestrated the most awful atrocities in the history of the entire planet across the 20th century The proxy wars, overthrowing elected governments, electing the fash in South America by sponsoring assassinations. God it’s so awful. Either you’re educated on it or you better get educated These cartels don’t like you. Why are you loyal to them?
@DeezN1892
25 күн бұрын
@@fiyum333 hes anti EU because of the literal neo-imperialism they orchestrate across Africa. You have been duped by claims of “diversity and inclusion” whilst multi-national European companies have kids in Africa enslaved in gold mines
1:30 wait, Isn't that the Max Fosh antagoist in the race for the Mayor of London ?!?!?!
It's so funny seeing the mayor election where Niko Omilana (look up on youtube if you don't know him) beat Laurence Fox
@garywhapples7172
Ай бұрын
Funny seeing London falling to its knees hahaha
@barryhomeowner9293
Ай бұрын
@@garywhapples7172 I'd be more worried about London if they thought Laurence Fox spoke any sense
@sfactory8253
Ай бұрын
He was way below Count Binface
@jamesormondroyd1009
Ай бұрын
@@garywhapples7172except London and the south east are the only net contributors to the exchequer, so if you don’t live in London then London is effectively subsidising your local services
@garywhapples7172
Ай бұрын
@@jamesormondroyd1009 some boroughs of London ie Newham spend 9 times more than they contribute. (look it up) I live just outside of London and I can say with certainty that we're huge contributors, probably funding places like Newham, Tower hamlets etc
You forgot the 'lets have another party party'
@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l
Ай бұрын
That sounds like a party Boris would get behind.
@RoyalLegend1000
Ай бұрын
@@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l lol
2:34 Why do you use a graphic of US dollars when talking about British pounds?
big up the NDL
@JasonAtlas
Ай бұрын
Only good party these days.
@humanwhodoesstuffindeed
Ай бұрын
niko could run the uk better than our past 5 prime ministers
When talking about Politics please actually say what the opinions they were censured on, not just the topic they had an opinion on.
A slight problem for your narrative here, Alex Salmond didn't found Alba: it was founded by Laurie Flynn. Alec was just its first leader.
@dkoda840
Ай бұрын
That seems like a mistake not a “problem in a narrative.”
@bjiornbjiorn
Ай бұрын
@@dkoda840 Aye, it's a mistake but one that fundamentally changes the character of the discussion and therefore creates a false narrative. They're arguing that the Alba party was founded as a result of the personal fallout between Salmond and Sturgeon (Fish fight!). However, that ignores the fact that the Alba party was actually formed due to a broader feeling of dissatisfaction with the SNP's independence strategy and a lack of accountability within the leadership team.
@dkoda840
Ай бұрын
@@bjiornbjiorn I replied to this comment before that section came up I watched the full video and yea I agree it does mess with the narrative. Granted I haven’t looked into the reason Laurie Flynn started the party so it could be a similar reason but yea this mistake does change the discussion.
Would love another one of these looking at even more of the smaller parties like SDP. You do such a good job of just telling all the info,
Every video with Ben looking confused in the thumbnail is automatically a great video.
More parties the better, Labour and the Tories have failed us too many times.
@kieranmilner4208
Ай бұрын
Sadly if one doesn’t get enough votes the two fuckwit ones will stay on top it should of been a third party not 3 as it spreads out the votes too much
I think the SDP is likely a more serious political force than Reclaim
@MichaelGGarry
Ай бұрын
But aren't new.
You know a party is fringe when the TLDR News video about it has a photo of the host making a funny face that screams "Why are we even talking about this?", rather than a photo of any of the parties' leaders.
Three parties that are personality cults
@shamanahaboolist
Ай бұрын
lol as if any of the other parties are any different. It's politics. Plus the workers party isn't by any objective standard. Their manifesto is the most intelligent on offer.
@satoshikamiya4636
Ай бұрын
@@shamanahaboolist nah G... check yourself. being anti EU and anti NATO is such a big turnoff, since obviously brexit was bad and nato is beneficial to our national security. If i had to sacrifice my life to stop the workers party being in office, I'd do it because of how dangerous they would be. a socialist workers party that doesn't want to do suicidal things would be much more appropriate.
@BritishRepublicsn
Ай бұрын
@@shamanahaboolistthe difference between these 3 parties and the major ones are that these 3 are known primarily for one person, while, say, Labour is known more for..other things Actually I'm going to stop because idk what I'm trying to say
@shamanahaboolist
Ай бұрын
@@BritishRepublicsn lol Fair enough bud. Yeah... Just sit back and enjoy the desperation involved in making your primary criticism of a politician being that people like their personality. 😂
@lukefleetwood7958
Ай бұрын
@@shamanahaboolist The Worker's party's manifesto is intelligent XD. That's a take. They are a party of fifth columnists who want to be friends with all our enemies like Russia and Palestine while abandoning the best defensive alliance in the world while pandering to the backwards minority of Muslims.
4:06 What was the comment made about Iraq exactly?
@DaDARKPass
Ай бұрын
Galloway claimed Saddam Hussein was "fighting the good fight" or something like that.
@MiningForPies
Ай бұрын
Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability, and I want you to know that we are with you, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds [until victory, until Jerusalem]. Galloway is a really nasty piece of work.
@kwanlinus6999
Ай бұрын
@@MiningForPies Galloway is basically the orthodox British tankie whose greatest idol is Joseph Stalin
Where’s the other video? Was it deleted?
5:11 Alex Salmond hey i remember this guy they made a parody of him as Shrek! 😆
Even though these three look pretty bad, I still think it’s good to have more competition other than the two main parties.
@THTB_lol
Ай бұрын
yea, we got racist conservatives, racist labour, and racist snp
@Shlepp
Ай бұрын
@@THTB_lol they didn’t seem racist. Unless you’re one of those people who consider criticism or being against illegal immigration as being “racist”
@THTB_lol
Ай бұрын
@@Shlepp nice dogwhistle
@Shlepp
Ай бұрын
@@THTB_lol I’d take that as a yes then. Im sorry for you
@THTB_lol
Ай бұрын
@@Shlepp your dogwhistle is broken and can now be heard as racism by everyone
Lol, if you cant do your paperwork then you dont get to be mayor
Seeing nikos image there is amzing
Create a video about UK’s free ports & Special Economic Zones (SEZs) and how these will impact our way of life. I'd be really interested to see how you frame the predicted impact.
4:16 The US wants to desperately extradite Julian Assange, what's the conspiracy?
@thetreelander7378
Ай бұрын
the people who run the channel are left wing so they chuck that word around like its a tennis ball for a dog.
@bjiornbjiorn
Ай бұрын
@@thetreelander7378 Just to be clear, the video doesn't use the word conspiracy when talking about Galloway: that's the OP's word choice.
@bjiornbjiorn
Ай бұрын
If there was any conspiracy theory around Assange it was that the sexual assault charges in Sweden had been invented so that he would be arrested and then subsequently extradited to the USA. Now, I don't think anyone would dispute that that is what would probably happen, especially given the USA's refusal to rule out extraditing Assange from Sweden at the time. However I think it crosses the line when you argue that the sexual assault charges were deliberately fabricated without any real evidence or a court case. If anything, at the time, I was angry with the USA because, by refusing to rule out extradition, they were not only denying Assange the opportunity to try and clear his name, which he said he wanted to do at the time, but they also effectively denied his accusers their opportunity to seek justice in court.
@thetreelander7378
Ай бұрын
@@bjiornbjiorn yeah i know that but this channel chucks it about a bit to much for it to be used by its actual meaning. call me cynical.
You missed the SDP. They are contesting about 100 seats at the next election.
@MichaelGGarry
Ай бұрын
They aren't new.
"as a result, he lost his 10,000 election deposit" is cold
0:27 Looking at the video from 2 years ago, I see that you quickly skipped over Wales then, too.
@MiningForPies
Ай бұрын
What new parties are in wales?
@howtoappearincompletely9739
Ай бұрын
@@MiningForPies Gwlad was founded in 2018 and Propel was founded in 2019. They each have one councillor.
@howtoappearincompletely9739
Ай бұрын
Correction: Propel was founded in 2020.
Reminds me of countries that segregate into one-policy fringe parties that just erode the whole system to the point that people either stop caring about politics (to make matters even worse) or, even if they did, couldnt figure out who stands for what.
Everytime I watch content about the UK, I have to remind myself that the US has our colors inverted, blue= liberal, red= conservative
@ethanfarmisa1439
Ай бұрын
Red has been the colour of left wing movements globally for a while
@cneofficial3958
Ай бұрын
@@ethanfarmisa1439 yeah it’s just the opposite in the US which always throughs me off.
@MiningForPies
Ай бұрын
There is no left wing in the US. The dems world be on the right of the Tory party
@RoyalLegend1000
Ай бұрын
@@cneofficial3958 you guys used to have red/republicans for liberal, before the great switch
@martinholmes-ue9ko
10 күн бұрын
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As Brits, I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on joke candidates (like Lord Buckethead (assuming he's still kicking around :P))
Remarkable that all three of these parties are socially conservative
@stephengray1344
Ай бұрын
it's not particularly surprising. The internet has basically forced American culture war issues onto the political agenda here, moving the focus away from bread-and-butter issues. And almost all of the mainstream parties are on one side of those issues, leaving social conservatism as the obvious gap to fill. The only mainstream party that is clearly socially conservative is the DUP. The Conservatives are socially conservative on some issues, but have managed to give their base the impression that they are only paying lip-service to social conservatism on those issues. That said, these parties are quite difficult .Galloway isn't playing to the large proportion of the population who are left-wing on economics but socially conservative, he's playing specifically to the Muslim vote. Salmond's party is largely a vanity project, but reflects the fact that the SNP vote is all over the place on issues other than independence. And Reclaim are basically just a particularly prominent UKIP splinter group.
@PiousMoltar
Ай бұрын
They wouldn't have been considered so 20 years ago...
@rosejuliette9180
28 күн бұрын
@@PiousMoltar I hate to be the one that points it out but yeah... that's how conservatism tends to go. 20 years ago gay marriage had only been legal for a year and there was still considerable opposition to it. Remaining progressive requires that you adapt to new information and listen to new points of view. If Your attitude would be more at home in an older and more conservative world then that attitude is by definition leaning towards conservatism. in 1924 you could have said "20 years ago i wouldn't have been seen as socially conservative to support slave ownership." Times arrow keeps marching on and it is important to allow progress to happen in spite of the fact you won't always be immediately comfortable with it. You will have concerns. it will seem new and strange and scary. You work through that and try to make life better for those who haven't had a chance to be heard. Change is necessary and fundamentaly benefits social mobility for everyone. Not all that is new will work out but it is worth hearing out those new ideas and challenging old ideas.
@boozecruiser
25 күн бұрын
@@PiousMoltar They would have. The overton window has moved right and the "mainstream" right wing parties are more extreme. The mainstream "left wing" parties are holding steady or have even shifted rightwards since the 80s
@luxann292
4 күн бұрын
Since when were communists conservative?
SDP >>>
The video on Britain's New Fringe Parties gives us a good look at the UK's political scene. But, looking ahead, the big question is how the UK can create a stable and growing future. With big changes coming from AI technology, central bank digital currencies and the escalating tensions in conflict zones, every political party faces tough challenges. Stability, a clear plan, and agreement among MPs on the UK's direction are key. We need to learn from the Brexit mess and not expect quick fixes for deep-rooted problems. Also, the media's role is crucial. Right now, they're pushing the idea that the Labour Party will be the next government because of their lead in polls. But in reality, nothing is guaranteed in politics. In short, the UK needs to focus on long-term solutions and be careful with how the media shapes our view of politics.
Why is 4:10 questionable?
its interesting that criticizing israel is always antisemitic, even if its about their ethics and conduct. Whats the word for being against someone who kills babies, women, civilians and their own people if caught in the crossfire?
@rosejuliette9180
28 күн бұрын
Thats not what happened here. I'm pro palestine and highly critical of isreal. I believe they are commiting war crimes. I have experienced false allegations of antisemitism. The difference is that galloway isn't promoting just valid criticism of isreal but also truly bizzare conspiracy theories implying a jewish social elite that control western politics. It is very important to seperate these two things. There is ne secret kabal. This is just a wealthy nation attacking an impoverished one. If isreal was christian it would likely be doing the exact same thing. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your freind. Supporting palestine does not require the belief of antisemitic conspiracy theory.
Dude it's crazy how Gender just breaks UK politics
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
Ай бұрын
It sadly makes perfect sense when you consider the history of feminism in the UK. While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement and intersectional feminism, British feminism dove deep into so-called "gender critical" strands of the movement, to the point of allying with anti-abortion far right movements This broadly lead progressivism in Britain to lag behind in terms of trans rights
@gtrdxz
Ай бұрын
@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 "While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement" 🤣 Talk to the middle east, Asia and south America.
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
Ай бұрын
@@gtrdxz middle eastern progressivism is very much queer friendly, it's just... Very very non-prevalent considering the various governments' stances Not particularly familiar with South American or Asian progressive movements so I won't comment on that
@Darkest_matter
Ай бұрын
@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Anti-abortion is good bruh. it shows you actually are responsible. you can't always just fuck around..... sometimes, you gotta fuck around and find out.
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
Ай бұрын
@@Darkest_matter you won't convince a woman with this argument lol If you want to ban abortion your target is either to reduce the amount of people having sex or to control women's bodies. Which, as targets, are respectively impossible/useless and abhorrent
Anyone else find the audio on these videos really sharp and to listen to?
Calling them “fringe parties” is hilarious they believe basically the same things as the others
What about the Heritage party run by David Kurten .
It's fascinating reading the comments and seeing just how ignorant a lot of the people who watch these videos are of alternative political views.
@murtisoft
Ай бұрын
Tumbleweeds. They go wherever the wind takes them.
Fineley alternativs grows, most needed. Hale deversety. 3 thumps up
2:28 Niko lmao
Labour needs to be replaced by a 'real' left-wing party. Labour is not left anymore, I hasn't been for the past 14 years.
@RextheRebel
25 күн бұрын
Workers Party of Britain is the closest thing to a "real" left wing party. It's just extremely disappointing it's backed by the very ppl who need to be removed from British shores.
@aimansafwan1997
20 күн бұрын
@@RextheRebel ok pro-genocide sadist.
Defo a time for change No labour and no Tories.
@jakel8627
Ай бұрын
You're good at saying what you don't want. But when given the opportunity to govern, you make a mess of it.
@WhichDoctor1
Ай бұрын
We need proportional representation first. Otherwise even if both big parties are somehow brought down they will just be replaced by two new equally big parties fighting to win over middle ground voters and enacting policies for their millionaire funders. That's just the outcome our electoral system is set up to produce. If you want change you have to change the rules of the game, not just replace the playing pieces
@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l
Ай бұрын
Given the options: I much rather be governed by a party with SOME experience rather than none. This is like giving the responsibility to a 5 year old and being shocked that they left the oven on.
I can't see any of these parties winning a single seat between them.
@MiningForPies
Ай бұрын
I’d be surprised if Galloway even bothers standing in Rochdale at the election. He has form of wining by-elections and running away when it’s no longer a protest vote
Is there any plans for Britain changing its first past the post system? Otherwise any smaller parties have no chance.
@pewgarpolls
29 күн бұрын
the big parties crushed that
I'd also like to mention the Transform party, if anyone is interested in an actual left wing option
@Nemerian
Ай бұрын
Eh, Transform is just another iteration of people thinking they are gonna the ones to unify the constantly collapsing and merging ecosystem of the fringe far-left no one cares about.
@MiningForPies
Ай бұрын
Looks interesting. Main thing now is getting the tories out though.
@rocketrakkor9424
Ай бұрын
@@MiningForPies yeah Transform definitely still needs more time to grow before making any real dents
Guys check out our fringe political parties, we’ve got: The racist The racist The racist
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
Ай бұрын
The racist The racist and also a TERF The racist
@prolarka
Ай бұрын
Good. Just like the population.
@THTB_lol
Ай бұрын
its more like racist tories, racist labour, racist snp
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
Ай бұрын
@@THTB_lol the Tories are already the racist Tories
@THTB_lol
Ай бұрын
@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 but somehow reclaim are more racist
Why is one logo a cross between the galactic empire and Vault-Tec?
Thank you...
Alba should be pronounced Alpa. As its the Gaelic for Scotland. Otherwise, great content as always
@lindsaymobil22
Ай бұрын
It's more like "Al-uh-pa", that extra little sound in the middle trips a lot of folks up.
@MiningForPies
Ай бұрын
There is no such language as Gaelic.
@howtoappearincompletely9739
Ай бұрын
@@MiningForPies Are you going to insist on its being called Gàidhlig?
@user-mn4cc6bb7t
Ай бұрын
Pronouncing names from one language in another can often be a cause for debate. How many native English-speakers pronounce the German car maker Volkswagen as a native German-speaker would, i.e. 'Folksvaagen'? The same applies to Citröen, which strictly speaking should be pronounced differently from 'citron', the French word for lemon. P.S. I am Scottish and studied French and German at university and I anglicise my pronunciation of both these names.
@nervousheadache
27 күн бұрын
That isn’t how you pronounce it either.
Alba is pronounced "Al-ah-pah". Although Salmond also mispronounced the name as well. Sorry to be a stickler, but Scottish Gaelic is being cynically used to make Alba look more Scottish than the SNP, whilst failing to understand and appreciate the community - at least that's my opinion as a non-Gaelic speaker
what about the gray seats? who won those?
The net zero referendum wouldnt be left wing. Its specifically a referendum on the topic due to the party denying climate change. In this (and many other aspects) the party is even more regressive than even the Tories
I haven't watched the whole video, but I reckon the political party with the "R" symbol as a Republican Party in the thumbnail
@blubblewubble
Ай бұрын
Republican means different things depending on where you are. In Ireland a republican is someone who wants northern Ireland to integrate with the republic of Ireland and they are generally more left wing. Republicans in the USA are right wing
@flmis
Ай бұрын
@@blubblewubble I know, I meant that I thought it was about a party in the UK that wanted to replace a monarchy with a republic
@BritishRepublicsn
Ай бұрын
@@flmisif only there were one
Why the Reclaim's leader looks like he's going to cry?
@_CaptainCookie
Ай бұрын
his wife left him for being racist. he's a broken man
@pewgarpolls
29 күн бұрын
because he lost to a youtuber in children's sunglasses
No mention of plaid?
@alexs6950
Ай бұрын
Theyre not new?
@howtoappearincompletely9739
Ай бұрын
Not new and not fringe.
It's very easy to look at the UK and assume we have a two party system; except we don't, we have a one patry system where everyone suspiciously keeps voting for the same government and the opposition plays the role of it's own opposition.
"Fringe parties" is a pretty anti democatic term
Worker's Party just sounds like someone wanted to create a party with the objectively worst policies
Alba also said they specifically want a republican Scotland. The SNP isn't too sure. Nicola Sturgeon is a convinced monarchist, for example. Humza Yousaf may lean a bit republican because at a football game between Scotland and England, when English fans sang "God Save the King", some Scots booed, with Yousaf, who was present, smugging.
"It's very easy to look at the UK and assume we have a two party system." Only if you've been absolutely paying no attention whatsoever 🤣 in the last 15 years we've have one formal coalition government, one confidence and supply government, a small party running Scotland all that time, a minor party winning every EU Parliament election in the UK, and a minor party blocking May's Brexit deal. What a way to open the video 😅
Left wing but socially conservative or moderate is one of least talked about in news.
@useodyseeorbitchute9450
Ай бұрын
Really? I thought that whenever ones suggest such ideas that are likely to resonate well among voters, he is being screamed away by all establishment media as "right wing populist".
@boozecruiser
25 күн бұрын
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Conservatives ARE the establishment
The reclaim party are a joke, the workers party will fail but might get some councillor seats in the Midlands this election, the alba party are worth watching as the snp are struggling and salmond being a main stay of Scottish politics.
This reminds me of Seeker back before it was taken over.
What TLDR fails to point out is that unlike most left-wing party in Britain, the WPGB is staunchly-unionist and is against regional autonomy. So basically, the WPGB is the closest thing Britain has to the CPSU
@elpito9326
Ай бұрын
But the Bolsheviks created the different Soviet republics which had absolutely no autonomy before, other than whatever the feudal system granted them (and that was based on feudal posessions rather than culture). Without the USSR, it's likely that Belarusian, Kazakh and many other languages would either be extinct or in a far worse position than nowadays.
@kwanlinus6999
28 күн бұрын
@@elpito9326 Despite ethnic minorities given some right to manage their own republics, it didn't stop the central policy of Russification occuring in the non-Russian republics
Generally I like your videos but sometimes TLDR can describe aspects of them rather too well. In Corbyn’s so-called landslide defeat in 2019 he achieved a greater share of the popular vote than that achieved by Milliband or Brown or by Kinnock at his first attempt. Corbyn’s 2019 vote share was 0.3 of a percentage point behind that achieved by Blair in his third victory in 2005 and Blair had at that time a large share of the Scottish vote to count upon. The fact that Johnson gained a sixty-seat majority in the House of Commons reflects the particularly perverse outcomes than can be delivered by the First Past the Post voting system. Even then it hardly qualifies as a landslide. Blair in 1997 with a 179-seat majority, the definitely was a landslide in terms of seats, achieved with a popular vote share that was less than one percentage point better than Theresa May when she lost overall control of the Commons in 2017.
@user-uf4rx5ih3v
Ай бұрын
What you're saying is true but also basically pointless. Overall vote share does not win seats and therefore does not give power in the UK. You need power to govern and push policies, perhaps the current system is undemocratic but that's how it is right now. To that end Corbyn failed miserably. He's not a good politician and not a good leader either. Corbyn was an activist first and foremost but that can't win elections and wont make a good leader for the country either.
@BritishRepublicsn
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately the popular vote is not taken into account when filling up parliament. So when someone says 'landslide defeat' they mean that the party lost a bunch of constituencies, not that their share of the popular vote was off
@rodmarker2071
Ай бұрын
Either way he lost , not once but twice. Once against lame duck Teresa May and a pretty significant defeat to fat narcissist BoJo (worst in a long time). The conspiracy part of me thought he was a Tory plant. He had no idea about the N of Watford , being that he focused on London and was a professional banckbencher. He kept giving and giving to the Tory Press. Now we have a pink tory Labour party it's a crying shame he didn't smell the coffee afterhis 1st defeat. We might not have to suffer Boris ... Thanks Jem The free broadband was a absolute winner ......
Galloway's workers party of Britain is definitely the best and will grow organically - people crying out for change
@FranzBieberkopf
Ай бұрын
The Rt. Hon. Member for Gaza Central will be on the dole post-GE. Going by his recent statements, he'll end up in the Russian Duma-he's a consistent Putin bootlicker.
@aimansafwan1997
20 күн бұрын
@@FranzBieberkopf Ok pro-genocide sadist.