BRING IT DOWN, BRING IT DOWN! Skaven vs Demons of Chaos - Total War Warhammer 3

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  • @supak15
    @supak15 Жыл бұрын

    Lord of the Rings reference, meme thumbnail and will most likely be a great cast as well. Turin still got it.

  • @Xanthate1845
    @Xanthate1845 Жыл бұрын

    "Skaven slave lord being unsummoned" that just about sums up domination

  • @thepiousskeleton6046

    @thepiousskeleton6046

    Жыл бұрын

    and "Cathay harmony box" sums up land battles

  • @parkmap1516

    @parkmap1516

    Жыл бұрын

    Thoughtless design and balance sums up the game

  • @Reptonious

    @Reptonious

    11 ай бұрын

    @@parkmap1516 do you teach classes

  • @deadlyydude5522
    @deadlyydude5522 Жыл бұрын

    Reform the line, reform the line!!

  • @fizzbrew

    @fizzbrew

    Жыл бұрын

    I used to say this shit randomly for years. Movie was so fing incredible

  • @deadlyydude5522

    @deadlyydude5522

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fizzbrew the greatest

  • @Enigmouz
    @Enigmouz Жыл бұрын

    The teeth breakers had a full on “Fire! Reload! Fire!” moment into Belakor

  • @darnokx9277
    @darnokx9277 Жыл бұрын

    "Astra Militarum... which should be called Imperial Guard really" ... my man, that alone deserves an upvote and eternal gratitude. I see you are a man of culture yourself! Also: great batrep, thanks!

  • @freakymoejoe2

    @freakymoejoe2

    Жыл бұрын

    it still is. Astra militarum is the high gothic name, imperial guard is low gothic. Same deal as astartes/space marine, sororitas/sister of battle

  • @callumcochrane7759

    @callumcochrane7759

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freakymoejoe2 You mean its a copywritable name, same as astartes & sororitas.

  • @freakymoejoe2

    @freakymoejoe2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@callumcochrane7759 yeah thats the real real, but it ties in nicely with established lore

  • @worstprofessor895
    @worstprofessor895 Жыл бұрын

    That is the banner of the revolting, bug-hugging Clan Verms, yes-yes!

  • @RawCauliflower
    @RawCauliflower Жыл бұрын

    I agree with what you said about bloodletters and daemonettes. High damage but squishy and mostly expensive infantry like wildwood rangers, bladesingers and marauder berserkers just don't fit into domination mode very well.

  • @mariojorge68

    @mariojorge68

    Жыл бұрын

    Bloodletters can be a great tac if you're playing Khorne because of how prevalent Warrior spam is. I always like to take the Hellforged Host in reinforcements if I'm playing against a faction that has either hordes or armoured anti-infantry in case the opponent goes hard on the AP.

  • @dbehnia2351

    @dbehnia2351

    Жыл бұрын

    Blade singers and exalted blood letters get brought in tourney play, wildwood rangers and normal blood letters are just considered not that good.

  • @phantom6014

    @phantom6014

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mariojorge68 exalted bloodletters are actually pretty great with how fast they can buzzsaw stuff. Its just the generic variant that's kind of hit or miss. Bur ya bloodforged host for me are almost autoinclude in most matchups.

  • @mariojorge68

    @mariojorge68

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phantom6014 Oh yes, you're absolutely right! My bad for misinterpreting. Baseline bloodletters are indeed a waste of money, the only exception to this rule being if they're summoned in via cultist.

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115

    @mcmarkmarkson7115

    Жыл бұрын

    Depends on the match up. Against Norsca marauder champions or Kislev usually with quite a lot of armor and dwarfs they are great. obviously if the enemy doesn't bring much armored infantry, your expensive high ap infantry is gonna be a waste of money.

  • @phantom6014
    @phantom6014 Жыл бұрын

    the skaven player made it so obvious he was expecting the pit of shades play for a solid 10 seconds but belakor still committed god damn.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын

    Skaven always triumph!

  • @thethrongler3070
    @thethrongler3070 Жыл бұрын

    Haggard rats? On my good Sigmarite KZread? ... It's more likely than you think

  • @mirchiamemeina1524
    @mirchiamemeina1524 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely amazing. Love to see it!

  • @sassyviking6003
    @sassyviking6003 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love exalted daemonettes, but yea, the basic ones are just too fragile for what they do. I find the slightly higher hp, much higher stats, and enthrall go a long way for the exalted variety. But then of course you have a super expensive unit that while a lot better is still pretty fragile so you will have to work for their value.

  • @jiado6893
    @jiado6893 Жыл бұрын

    Mike: "Oh god I bred too many rats!" Zach: "WHAT THE FU-!?"

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115
    @mcmarkmarkson7115 Жыл бұрын

    God how I hate flying units not able to attack anything on even slightly fast ground units.

  • @florians9949
    @florians9949 Жыл бұрын

    And that’s why you never do a ‘leroy jenkis.’

  • @xzoid128
    @xzoid128 Жыл бұрын

    Belakor has been a meta centerpeice for daemons of chaos in 40k for some time, funny to hear you relate him to other models in the game.

  • @lflpolp7852
    @lflpolp7852 Жыл бұрын

    nice to see some skaven action,love them cute litle rat

  • @Timo-tm6rj
    @Timo-tm6rj Жыл бұрын

    what the fuck was the deamon player thinking when charging in belakor? its the skaven bro obviously they are gonna have some strong fire power. how is this a tournament final? he completely threw the game even though he could have clearly won

  • @eumaies
    @eumaies Жыл бұрын

    great game, love the map.

  • @GabaGhoul0
    @GabaGhoul0 Жыл бұрын

    10:15 can DoC actually bring herald lords? I‘ve only ever seen demon princes available as options. I guess you could bring a hero as the lord but the cheapest prince would still eat up 2000 gold of your reinforcements granted if it were possible to bring heralds as DoC we would still see belakor most of the time regardless. would be nice to have the option tho

  • @callumcochrane7759

    @callumcochrane7759

    Жыл бұрын

    its just princes unfortunately, you would have to put a hero in the lord slot if you wanted to go cheap. I don't see any reason why heralds shouldn't be available to DoC, it would make them more diverse and fun to play and be so easy for CA to implement. So it'll probably never happen

  • @Ezekielepharcelis
    @Ezekielepharcelis Жыл бұрын

    more lotr quotes 😉 will watch the video now 😁

  • @kubasio57
    @kubasio57 Жыл бұрын

    do you stream ?

  • @Mikester88
    @Mikester88 Жыл бұрын

    All hail the claw!

  • @thomasconti3536
    @thomasconti3536 Жыл бұрын

    I've never seen belakor so disrespected.

  • @vineyarddaze
    @vineyarddaze Жыл бұрын

    Everyone should get into LoTR MESBG, worth your time, definitely better than any tabletop wargame I've played (especially 40K)

  • @TheKarjee
    @TheKarjee Жыл бұрын

    I did a 180 on the DOC player. The unit they threw out at the end were varied and effective.

  • @SmilingJack100
    @SmilingJack100 Жыл бұрын

    Turin, what would you do to buff the skaven, cause they seem pretty weak.

  • @leojohn1615

    @leojohn1615

    Жыл бұрын

    no please no dont buff skaven

  • @SmilingJack100

    @SmilingJack100

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leojohn1615 Why? They're UP, and have a low win rate.

  • @leojohn1615

    @leojohn1615

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmilingJack100 they arent great in dom sure. have you played a regular 2v2 recently?

  • @SmilingJack100

    @SmilingJack100

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leojohn1615 Never play 2v2, overwhelming # of matches are 1v1, they are bad in 1v1. 2v2 is a balance-less place.

  • @leojohn1615

    @leojohn1615

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmilingJack100 only they arent bad in a large number of match ups in 1v1 land battle they have good artillery fine infantry fine magic and amazing weapons teams. what about them is bad exactly?

  • @hdfhhfffcchhffgg7364
    @hdfhhfffcchhffgg7364 Жыл бұрын

    Can someone help me kf i try to play mp it say conection lost unspecific error (i have decent wifi and a good pc

  • @spellbound1875
    @spellbound1875 Жыл бұрын

    Be'lakor having 25% missile resist (no other greater daemon or daemon prince has any missile resist) is quite frustrating. Missiles are a tool that players naturally view as a counter to Be'lakor but he shrugs off so much damage even without Shadow Shroud that you can't properly punish him with missiles. I hope CA removes it in 3.0 since I'm pretty sure it's just a hold over from his final boss status in the Realm of Chaos campaign.

  • @ds22342

    @ds22342

    Жыл бұрын

    Belakor is pretty expensive though, you are paying for that tankiness. No need to nerf him into oblivion.

  • @spellbound1875

    @spellbound1875

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ds22342 I fail to see how just putting him a level playing field with every other Daemon Prince and Greater Daemon would be "nerfing him into oblivion". Stacking resists have synergy and 25% missile resist with 20% physical resist means most missiles just don't hurt the guy. Mind you missile resist also covers things like artillery and some spells. It's quite silly currently how many things Be'lakor is taking so little damage from. I suspect that if Be'lakor was properly vulnerable to missiles he'd be a lot less oppressive as he's currently priced. As is players bring what should be a natural counter and Be'lakor ignores it. Being expensive is only a risk if you can't consistently pay for yourself.

  • @capadociaash8003

    @capadociaash8003

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spellbound1875 my dude belakor was sniped super early in this game, he ain’t invincible and if you lose him you’re screwed. You may be right but making this argument on a game where he’s taken out super early isn’t doing you any favors

  • @mariojorge68

    @mariojorge68

    Жыл бұрын

    >You can't punish him properly with missiles My brother in christ, you're commenting on a video where Be'Lakor overextended and got immediately wrecked by missile play. What are you on about? Be'Lakor costs a lot even when stripped down; a proportion of missiles and mass equal to Be'Lakor's cost will effectively counter him if your micro's even halfway good.

  • @spellbound1875

    @spellbound1875

    Жыл бұрын

    @@capadociaash8003 Are you kidding here? How was he sniped, he left alive after being locked in place and taking 4ish volleys from two gutter runners and a ratling gun. Any other lord in the game in that early game situation would have been dead ages ago. 25% more damage on the ranged units would have killed even even with the 40% ward save from the shadow shroud, which is appropriate when you throw your lord unsupported directly into a bunch of missile units and monstrous infantry. Be'lakor is unique in his ability to throw himself into what should be absolutely suicidal and then just leave while largely fine. Missiles should punish the guy without the player using him being absolutely suicidal, but as is he can do stupid things and leave scott free unless your opponent puts a huge amount of resources into focusing him, at which point he leaves hurt but able to continue influencing the game for another 10 minutes.

  • @TheAlwaysPrepared
    @TheAlwaysPrepared Жыл бұрын

    It IS called the imperial guard.

  • @lb2791

    @lb2791

    Жыл бұрын

    This has been a long running strategy of GW to replace the more generic faction names with names they could trademark. That's why they want us to call space marines astartes for example.

  • @TheAlwaysPrepared

    @TheAlwaysPrepared

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lb2791 The best thing was when they started to highlight their trademarked names in Black Library novels in bold letters - untranslated. I tried to read one of these novels and got ripped out of the story everytime my eyes would hit the bold english word. Last book I did buy from the Black Library.

  • @lb2791

    @lb2791

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheAlwaysPrepared I think the best thing was when they nuked Warhammer Fantasy so they could start over with trademarkable factions.

  • @TheAlwaysPrepared

    @TheAlwaysPrepared

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lb2791 Warhammer Fantasy wasn`t profitable enough as far as I understand it. AOS is much easier to sell as a gaming system. It`s still a shame that they nuked the old world and replaced it with Manga style DnD nonsense... I did build a decent Age of Fantasy table last year. The Knights of the White Wolf still ride.

  • @lb2791

    @lb2791

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheAlwaysPrepared That's one reason, the other was trademarkability. The two were also linked, as other miniature companies could easily sell minis that replaced GW minis because all the factions were just basic fantasy tropes. Now look at Age of Sigmar factions: They all have some non-generic spin and a totally new faction name that's trademarked by GW. That way it's much harder for other companies to come in and take a piece of the pie.

  • @jackevnorman
    @jackevnorman Жыл бұрын

    Is Turin the last big streamer/caster doing domination these days?

  • @notarealperson8956
    @notarealperson8956 Жыл бұрын

    Belakor and the Demon Princes really should just be the flat unbreakable they are in the game.

  • @Erebus2075
    @Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын

    ggwp

  • @havocgr1976
    @havocgr1976 Жыл бұрын

    That nurgling buff is so stupid, +ma when you are in melee, just give em the ma on their stats ffs.I guess they wanted to add flavour?

  • @CyberGui2000
    @CyberGui2000 Жыл бұрын

    Brazil huehuehuehuehuehuehu

  • @SnausageVonBrathearst
    @SnausageVonBrathearst Жыл бұрын

    what the hell was that play from Kark; sending in Bel'akor in like that early was just cringe worthy.

  • @mitchelljohnson9139
    @mitchelljohnson9139 Жыл бұрын

    Daemons of Chaos should have access to other daemonic legendary lords like Skarbrand and Kairos.

  • @TheTickler

    @TheTickler

    Жыл бұрын

    They aren't undivided though...

  • @mitchelljohnson9139

    @mitchelljohnson9139

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheTickler You could use them on the tabletop and the god specific warriors are shared. It makes sense to me.

  • @TheTickler

    @TheTickler

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mitchelljohnson9139 a lot of things in tabletop were retconned or changed for Warhammer 3. It doesn’t make much sense to me, honestly. They’re both fanatically loyal to their respective gods

  • @mitchelljohnson9139

    @mitchelljohnson9139

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheTickler It's multiplayer brother. The faction could use more lord options that's all.

  • @TheTickler

    @TheTickler

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mitchelljohnson9139 Disagree

  • @aliraj1718
    @aliraj1718 Жыл бұрын

    I am quite sick of these domination battles. Dont care how fair it is to players, its boring af

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