*Clarification* - Turns out it was a misaligned 'Japanese quartz' inside (likely a cheap Miyota or Seiko), rather than a Chinese one. I never bothered opening the case for this video because I thought there was no point if I was returning the watch anyway. Moving forward, if I'm not sure of the movement, I'll always open the rear just to check. Nevertheless, it doesn't take away from the poor misalignment and quality control that are on display there. It also does nothing to alleviate the inherently flawed bracelet design. ALSO: Some sections of this video have been blurred post-upload to avoid breaking Amazon’s updated terms of service for their affiliate program. Affiliates are no longer permitted to use Amazon web pages in their videos, and we can’t afford to get booted, as it makes up a large portion of our revenue. They threatened to boot us if we didn’t comply. It sucks, right?

WTF?! On a minimalist style watch like that’s not acceptable. When there’s not much to look at, it makes it all the more noticeable and infuriating.

I bought a Braun watch that retails at $235 at a thrift store for $0.25 (everything at the store is $0.69 a pound), so I definitely have nothing to complain about lmao

I read a really interesting article about second hand alignment recently. Essentially when a watch is hand assembled (which is often associated with a higher quality time piece) it's nearly impossible to get the second hand aligned in such a way that it hits all the markers. A second hand hitting the markers has nothing to do with the movement inside, and everything to do with the technician who assembled it. That's just the nature of quartz watches, and I've seen quartz watches at all sorts of price points hitting and missing second marks to varying degrees. The only way to get perfect alignment is with complete machine assembly, which requires huge investment, and allows watches to be mass produced. Casio is one of the few brands that has done this. Swatch has as well. So a misaligned second hand isn't necessarily a mark of poor craftsmanship or an inferior movement, and likewise a perfectly aligned second hand probably just indicates that the watch was mass produced on machines without any human involvement. All that said, the alignment does look particularly bad on that Braun watch. They should at least be able to get it to hit some of the markers.

@yelinaung485

4 жыл бұрын

I just watched the review of Phoibos GMT quartz review from Just one more watch channel and surprisingly it's second hand hit nearly all the markers. That watch is 200USD. 😁

@RelativeTime

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The article I read about it was on Vaer's site. It's a decent read. journal.vaerwatches.com/watch-second-hand-not-aligned/ Honestly, this used to bug the hell out of me too. Until I moded a few watches and realized just how damn hard it is to get that second hand lined up perfectly. Now I just take it in stride. The reality is that even on mechanical and autos the second hand will be misaligned just as much as a quartz watch. It's just you never notice it. The hand is constantly moving and as it moves 6-8 times a second it's eventually going to line up more. Which is also one reason I'm a big fan of sweeping quartz watches like Bulova. Even if it's a little off, you won't really notice it.

@Mister_Phafanapolis

4 жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime How can we, the watch buying nerds of the Internet, convince Bulova to sell their movements? I would love to try out and wear a high frequency sweeping quartz but most of Bulova's designs are butt ugly.

@RelativeTime

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mister_Phafanapolis that is the question. They are owned by citizen, but have yet to make their way out of the Bulova catalog. Seiko also has some sweeping quartz movements, but they are no where as smooth.

@thomaznadeau9930

4 жыл бұрын

Relative Time check Grand Seiko spring drive

The small details play an even more important role in minimal watches like this, and Braun seems to have utterly failed in this regard. I can feel your frustration and it's more than warranted.

@kutter_ttl6786

4 жыл бұрын

@@newscout If their intention was to send the brand down the crapper, mission accomplished.

@hot-bloodedmartialartist3900

4 жыл бұрын

Dude I never thought of that. The less details a watch has, the more refined the little details have to be.

Ben, Braun has a great heritage, but this is very, very, disappointing! It would drive me crazy! No German quality, that's for sure. Going for a quick profit again, I think. Blowing their Brand name. So stupid!

No, you're not unlucky. Braun is more than just a fashion watch brand, they have a long and illustrious history and their design philosophy has become iconic, but their build quality is RUBBISH. I've very optimistically bought 3 Braun watches over the years, including the ridiculously expensive "Prestige" chrono, and if the only problem you've had so far is a misaligned second hand, just wait until you've owned it a little longer and the REAL problems begin. That second WILL fall off eventually, the strap will disintegrate, none of the 6 hands on the chrono will behave as they should, any coating on the case or strap will scratch and chip away...and try changing the battery on the chrono - they've deliberately designed it so you have to take the whole watch apart via the front, although Braun recommend you send it to them to do it, 40 QUID to change a BATTERY! You're right Ben, it's stupidity on their part, as by saving a little on quality control, they've now ensured I will never buy any product from the Braun range ever again, and will recommend anyone I know to avoid them like the plague. How to ruin a great brand. BTW, is that a Stoke accent? ;)

the problem with braun watches is: its not braun anymore. Brauns watch brand is a part of Zeon ltd (witch also owns the international watchbrand "ingersoll" (in the us, ingersoll is still a part of timex, both starts as waterbury watch company), Jack Wills (never heart of) and Vivian Westwood. Zeon Ltd almost never told, witch company builds their movements, but, in therms of ingersoll, its a well known secret, that the movements come from seagull watch company. its easy to suspect, that the movement in their quartz lineups also comes from seagull.

@samsan3095

3 жыл бұрын

Seagull doesn't currently produce quartz movements...

Gotta find a nice vintage Made in Germany Braun, they are excellent.

@oliverlison

4 жыл бұрын

Lucky you

@matthewoles1064

2 жыл бұрын

I know I'm late to the party, but there's a German eBay seller who has a lot of NOS Brauns. They're absolutely fantastic for the price.

@voessing

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewoles1064 Could you share a link to the seller?

@elgatto3133

2 жыл бұрын

@@voessing I'd also like to see

it's not an issue with the movement, I've seen the same with much more expensive watches too. They are cutting costs on the production line by not making sure the second hands are properly aligned when fitting them.

That *is* a very attractive watch. The weird thing is I can't even see much in the way of backlash on the second hand (maybe it's just not coming across in the video) so in theory it should be possible to adjust the movement so the second hand hits the indices every time. The issue with the bracelet is just bizarre. I was going to suggest swapping out the bracelet but looking again, even though it's not integrated, I'm not sure how well a third party bracelet would fit. I have a couple of nice WatchGecko Milanese bracelets that I enjoy wearing and I think have more flex than the bracelet on that Braun. Two issues though: (i) the pattern of "chain links" is coarser, which would change the appearance, and (ii) the coarser links make the bracelets thicker, which means they might not fit under the lug piece and, even if they did, you may still run into issues with lack of flex because I don't think they'd be able to rotate freely around the springbar. Anyway... you've got me started because the second hand issue is a huge pet peeve of mine on quartz watches. You see it on a lot of different brands, even "better" brands such as Seiko, Citizen and Casio (although all are capable of making watches where this isn't an issue). Where it gets really aggravating is when you start to enter luxury territory. If you really want to make yourself grumpy (not recommended) go and look at some Tag Heuer quartz Aquaracers next time you walk past a jeweller that sells them. They start at around £1200 and I defy you to find one that consistently nails the indices. They look nice enough but, movement quality wise, I can't help thinking they're a bag of shite. It's outrageous at the prices they charge. This is the main reason I usually wear automatics: even really inexpensive ones move the second hand 5 - 6 times per second so you never really notice whether they're bang on the marker or not. And if it's not one of those it'll be my Pro Trek which has a digital display and is built to be beaten up. Anyway, rant over.

The movement used is a RONDA (Swiss company) Slimtech 1063. Hardly ‘Chinese crap’!

@blue46gt

4 жыл бұрын

OK it's Swiss crap then.

@petermeter5363

4 жыл бұрын

blue46gt Yeah but some research could have be done by him. I mean just imagine I just shit on a CK watch because I say it is just a fashion Shitta and in real it has a ETA2824 inside. Also it depends on the setting of the markers. Bring it to a watchmaker and he makes it hit the points exactly. I’m sure if it is a Swiss movement, we can expect some precision. But in the end it will never be a citizen0-100. It is a 60€ watch.

@BensWatchClub

3 жыл бұрын

Turns out neither of us were correct. It's not a RONDA quartz (or Chinese surprisingly); it's just a massively misaligned Japanese one instead. I never opened it because...what's the point? If it's way off, then it doesn't matter - it's getting returned regardless. I don't fancy having to mess around to properly align a movement; a job that should have been done correctly on the production line in my opinion 👍

I've been after a Braun watch for a while. I finally gave in and ordered one then noticed your review. I was a little worried, but my watch has arrived and the second hand is near perfect. Maybe I just got lucky, but I'm very happy. :)

@NXDL25

2 жыл бұрын

What about the armband? did they make any changes to that?

I was definitely considering buying this watch as I’m such a big fan of the aesthetic. No more! Thank you 🙏

I agree with you about the second hand but the strap did fit perfectly and followed the line of the lugs exactly (I have pretty standard wrists!) I did however change the strap for the black option because I felt the silver looked cheap and should have been a satin grey finish to match the lugs. The black looks so much better.

Why can't they get that second hand to align properly..,...? Thanks for sharing . Good video again.😆😺

Amen Brother. A lot of fashion watches have a great design, but have crap on the inside.

Nothing to do with the movement, even Tissot has the second hand issue.

@BarnOwl61

4 жыл бұрын

If Casio can do it, and Citizen can do it, there is no excuse for sloppy qc.

@wotanlau6099

4 жыл бұрын

@@BarnOwl61 Definitely, poor workmanship is no excuse. Especially for the price.

@GillesSimonify

4 жыл бұрын

Yo, I've got a Tissot PRC200 I bought 9 years ago, no issue. I'm fairly maniac about my watches, and the second hand hits the markers like 90% of the time. The other 10%, it's almost on it, so much than you don't even notice it.

@ricardjorg

4 жыл бұрын

I guess you could remove the seconds hand and place it back aligned correctly

@internettroll7497

4 жыл бұрын

@@ricardjorg even if you do that the movement doesnt consistently hit the markers so it is always a hit and miss.

3:05 Were you gonna say a very different word to "stupid" but caught yourself? haha

So glad I saw this video as the Braun was a watch I have been keeping my eye on. Love the minimalist Bauhaus styling and almost dropped a Cadisen in my cart during the AliExpress anniversary sale. But held back to see how it liked the Pegani Daytona homage and Steeldive pilots watches first.

What do you think about mondaine? Could you review one of their watches please ?

That’s just a mistake on the part of the watchmaker who put the second hand on the cannon pinion. You could take it to a watchmaker who could fix it for you for 15-35 quid. Not ideal, but this is the reality for cheaper quartz watches. Certainly has nothing to do with the movement. But I feel your pain. As watch lovers, the devil’s in the details, and misalignment really hurts. Edit: also, I would always avoid watches that have integrated bracelets. You could easily swap that out for another strap if they hadn’t chosen to integrate it into the case. Swatch is bad about this as well.

i have an original braun aw10 in my collection and it is a fantastic piece, the reason why the design of these watches is so nice is because it's based on this 1970's watch (which is also based on a previous design, Dieter Rams's alarm clock to be exact), and the build quality is undoubtably very good, but the thing with these watches is that they've never been "watches" as much as design pieces, it obviously doesn't justify the near unwearability of that one you just purchased, that's an example of bad design, and the aw10 was in fact much smaller and i can confirm, it is very wearable, but still, the seconds hand not hitting the markers is a really minor detail on a watch like this, they've never had particularly good movements simply because they weren't supposed to, heck my aw10 even stops completely at times, then comes back to life randomly! you need to take these watches for what they are, if you want a good reliable simple watch you get a timex, if you want a watch to look at and have an interesting conversation about with the secondary ability to tell the time, then you get a Braun. I would certainly not get a Braun as my only watch tho, while a timex is a very good "jack of all trades" watch.

Braun was a great brand when they made there products in Germany. Iv a West Germany made Braun voice control alarm clock from 1988, still working perfectly. And the second hand hits the markers.

Glaring issues, impossible to ignore. One question, how accurate are they? I mean, does constantly missing the second marks have an impact on accuracy?

I would like to add my 2 cents here. Despite the main complaints presented in the video I was tempted by the Amazon promo (55 EUR/45 GBP/60 USD) and bought a black face on a bracelet version. In my case, there were no problems. The second-hand hits the indexes perfectly, and with my average wrist size (around 17.5 cm/6.9 inches) there is no big issue with the bracelet protruding. Actually, you can lightly put pressure on both ends of the bracelet. It will bend slightly, just enough to fit perfectly on your hand. The watch itself makes a good impression in person with a truly minimalist and elegant design. After all, it follows the principles of the design icon - Dieter Rams. The quality of materials is also satisfactory. So, for someone with a medium-sized wrist (I think 17,5cm/6.9in is the minimum to avoid the bracelet complaint) at this price, I think it would be difficult to buy something of similar quality and appearance. And if you find a flawed piece you can always return it.

From 1:08-1:26 or so it was just white blurred screen on my end, was that on puropse?

Just subbed! Thanks for the great content. I hate when the seconds hand doesn’t line up properly! And that strap design is absolutely terrible and unacceptable!

A lot of people seem to have this issue. I bought the same one you first bought, on eBay too. For me, I absolutely love the style of their watches . But fortunately for me mine does hit the second mark here and there. I like the watch enough to over look the maybe 50% of the time it hit the second mark. I do agree with the straps. I don't like them that much

Totally with you my dude. This particular characteristic drives me bonkers!

It just looks like the second hand was mis-aligned on the movement, as it is fairly consistent with its offset

@BensWatchClub

4 жыл бұрын

In which case, I guess it's a manufacturing/quality control issue, which is even more frustrating

Such a good looking minimalist watch. Thanks for the review, I almost purchase it this watch.

I have a question. Where did you get the Timex fairfield for £40 from???

@BensWatchClub

4 жыл бұрын

Hey mate if you look at the Timex Fairfield 37mm review video on my channel, I explain all 👍

I have a Timex expedition and the second hand is misaligned as well... Actually, is there actually anyway to fix misaligned hands, I have an Edifice and the chronometer hand is also misaligned. Nice video and subscribed! P.S. I am new to mechanical watches and would like to get a nice looking watch. Is the brand Arbutus a decent option or should I go with something like an Orient or Swatch?

@gastonsgaspuitis9010

4 жыл бұрын

What model Edifice you have? If it is quartz chrono then there is a chance that you can align it easily, try to search in user's manual. If it is meca-quartz then you can not.

@5x22

4 жыл бұрын

Gastons Gašpuitis Hi there, thank you for replying. I have found the solution after further digging through the internet. :))

To be fair, I don't think there is a way of avoiding the misalignment. It's there on my Timex Q - but it is *very* noticeable on that Braun. I'm far more concerned with that protruding mesh bracelet though. I was about to buy this watch but I suspect that will be an issue with my skinny wrist, so I'll avoid. Thanks for making this video. 👍🏼

Totally agree with you. You can try the sub second version which also looks good.

Does Swatch second hand point more accurately?

@MrLeSa95

4 жыл бұрын

Yes lmao. Even my cheap ass 15$ casio easily does this. This is just a horrible watch

lol i hate it to if the seconds hands dont line up... back it goes cheers

Wow...when saving money backfires lol that's super frustrating

if the second-hand misses the marks consistently, there is hope. open it up, get the right tool to remove and then re-fit it properly. if is on and off hitting the markers,... send it back.

The length of the bracelet is easy to adjust, although because of the curved lugs NOT for every wrist. I like the design, my watch also has the second hand misallignment. Maybe I can fix it my self. I recommend t buy this watch in a shop, so you know second hand alignment is ok etc. If Braun ups their quality control they can sell boat loads...

I had 4 different Braun producs malfunction last year alone. I had just renovated my kitchen and since I had a good opinon about the Brand I decided to go with it. Had to replace the fridge, cooker and dishwasher so far, all broke down moths after their warranty was up. the serviceman told me it's a common thing with their products lately. I'm not trusting them with anything ever again.

Oh god thank you for making this video. You svaed me some money. I was going to buy this watch. It looks so damn good in pics... Such a shame

This is good looking watch, for quartz swatch has some decent looking options.

Thank you for the heads up. I was just about to press Place Order on Amazon.

BN0021BKBKG model with a new strap would fit your wrist since no lugs at all. But if you need the second hand to hit the markers that’s no good either.

I bought some Braun's for my wife. The crystal and metal are soft as hell. They looked like they had been dragged on the street after a few months. Good looks but cheap Chinese quality.

@plecko187

4 жыл бұрын

lol..dont blame chinese for everything..Braun probably dont even know what watches they selling,they simply place order and they tell them they want 1$ watch that gonna sell for 200$..and thats what the company did..Braun just want to have share in watch market and u can see from this video that no one ever put this watch around wrist to check if they actually wearable..they just wanna make money..thats all..this has nothing to do with cheap chinese quality cos this is simply what Braun ordered to take ur money..PS:im not chinese and sorry for my english..

To be fair, I’ve seen Quartz Grand Seiko SBGX models that miss the second markers.

Recently 7/1/2022 purchased a Braun watch BN0032BKSLMHG from Amazon, same watch face, but no second hand issues and no wrist band issues. Those were the first things I check after watching your video. Maybe I got lucky.

I just got gifted a Braun AW12, really nice watch, Made in Germany. and it has a Ronda movement.

1:10 is the vid supposed to blur out like that? Happened on another one I watched (npi) as well. 🤷🏻‍♂️

It literally couldn’t miss the markers any worse. It’s right between them.

I used to own a Braun watch back in ca. 2016. It was in fact the first watch I bought for myself with my "adult" money, before I got into the hobby of watch collecting. I wore it practically every day and I really liked it. Never noticed if it had a misaligned second hand but I probably also wasn't really paying attention it. Then one day at work the crown broke off through an accident. I contacted the Braun support in Germany inquiring about repair. They never got back to me which I find a real shame. I don't think I have the watch anymore, must have thrown it away last time I was moving house. Sad to see the brand seemingly cutting corners in the QC department.

@pianofry1138

2 жыл бұрын

That isn't a quality control issue. If you damaged the watch that is no fault of Braun. Still sucks they don't have customer support though.

Just got a NOS chrono from the mid 90's made in Germany. Looks tight.

Yeah as other people have mentioned it's nothing to do with the movement it's just that the second has was put on a fraction of a multimeter off. You could even fix it yourself in 2 minutes.

A few days ago, I did the "let's simulate that i'm going to buy a new watch" game, and looked for a Braun. The reviews on Amazon were simply discouraging, mostly about watches that came to their new owners with a non working movement. The best part is that the earliest opinion with this issue dated from 2018, and the latest one from 2021, at least 3 years of selling broken watches. If I already owned it and it broke, i would simply buy a new movement, slap it in and call it a day, but receiving a broken watch is an absolute lack of care for your brand image, and Braun has a lot to lose.

I think Braun watches are made by Zeon, which is part of the Heald group. Zeon make or have made watches for many brands. Watches are mass manufactured.

I've had a very disappointing experience with one of their more high-end digital watches. The same issue: sloppy quality control. Great design, but lousy execution. One of the most frustrating watch brands I've seen, because I really like their designs, which also happen to be quite unique. But as long as they don't perform much better on the quality front, I'm not going to buy any of their watches.

Great vid mate 👍

As I know only advanced japanese quartz movements have perfect second hand alignment. The most affordable is probably Casio's ProTrek PRG-600.

@adityaudhani4386

4 жыл бұрын

Some affordable Tissot watches have perfectly aligned second hand.

@viktorlyovochkin1812

4 жыл бұрын

But can they restore it's position after let's say a hit or shake? Casios definitely can, because they're do correct hands automatically after misalignment if it happened.

Lmao my $20 SKMEI watch is way more precise than that

TBH, I love both of those designs.

Glad I saw your vid.. was just about to order a Braun watch. Will not do now, if they’re so untrue to the Bauhaus principles they’re trading off.

huh. i expect my second hands not to hit the markers! you must have better luck than I do

Can someone tell me how to open the back of this watch to replace battery

Never buy a watch without traditional strap lugs. I bought a retro Braun digital with a proprietary strap that I can’t replace!

The majority of quartz watches miss the second marker.

For me it seems clear that it's a CHOICE for the marker to point to the MIDDLE of the spaces.

Did you try think other way? Maybe it missing markers on purpose , i check other ones they are exactly hit in the middle, between markers...

I have had a Braun BN0035 chronograph for the past year, and I've loved it. I got a great deal on Amazon, getting it for £100 instead of £215. After looking at online reviews and on the official Braun watches, their watches use Japanese Miyota movements, so at least they're not super cheap Chinese ones. My watch has been keeping time great and still looks great. Loses not much time and the second hand hits the markers the majority of the time. For my chronograph, I think it could be a misaligned dial ring more than anything. The buttons are feel great, and so does the watch build quality overall. Maybe it's because the BN0035 is a more high end Braun watch that the quality is better. Any Braun watch made in Germany, notably the historic AW10 is of immense quality, fitted with a Swiss Ronda movement and much more premium packaging etc. Of course there is a higher price tag to pay, £200 RRP, but I feel it is justified for a German made Swiss movement watch which has famous heritage in the design world. It's hit and miss with Braun. I wouldn't ignore them completely, for their designs are iconic and their higher end watched are good quality. I've thoroughly enjoyed mine, and I hope to add the Made in Germany AW10 EVO in my collection one day.

@romanschol8525

4 жыл бұрын

Henry Roberts the holy grail mate

While i have a ton of quartz watches that misaligned second hand is why i switched to automatic watches these days.

Of course you could just misalign the dial, you know, like Seiko does. 🤣

Good looking watches, terrible flaws & fit Ben. I love the Braun Retro Digital it is a great watch of you like to have a few digitals which are different to a Casio G-SHOCK in your collection.

I've got a Seiko quartz type II from 1977 that hits each single mark 100% of the time, and has a steady, quick moving hand. No jerking motion like a lot of quartz. Not even serviced. And this early quartz watch is not even on the high end of quartz watches from that period. All this packaged in beautiful case design, a funky hexagonal crystal, and a stunning green dial with a forest like finishing pattern into it, with applied markers. You can get one for a little more money and a lot more reward. This piece of garbage right there is a disposable object and the worst part is that most people won't mind it. You're right to rant. It's not even a " you get what you pay for ", we just get ripped of, that's a 10 euros watch at best, and they'd still make a solid profit out of each sale.

Hi Ben, l agree with all you've said apart from how it looks, to my eyes it's a complete minger.

It's not the movement. It's the alignment of the hands at assembly. You can fix that if you're so inclined.

Is it made from old melted down hairdryers

Dieter Rams doesn't play as much as an active role in Braun anymore, he is a real pioneer and would never have allowed such low-quality pieces to bear his name.

I have a Certina DS Podium with the same problem

Just stick with the Danish watch maker Skagen if you want a really nice thin minimalistic design. Very nice pieces that won't brake the bank. High quality case ,strap with a cutting edge North European ( Nordic ) clean style.

@Ferien7

4 жыл бұрын

Marks Java's junk

I don't think that if you try for a 3rd time, you ll get any luck. If i understand you taste correctly, then Rossling & Co watches, Bering time and Skagen must be your favorites :-)

The thing is. Braun isnt a full time watch co.. Its a consumer electronic manufacturer who happens to start naking watches because of the money thats in the watch market... Dont get me wrong.. They look incredible.. But thats it.. Looks. In germany.. At least in my area.. There is not a single braun watch around.. And nobody know that they make watches... Btw does anybody know the milano single hand watch? It looks incredible

I expected more from a brand like Braun. Their designs are iconic and featured in fifty watches that changed the world. That's a real shame.

Your exasperation is the one 😆

You need a mechanical watch with sweeping hands.

Try the higher end ones from Braun

I have a braun and I can attest to the poor quality. Defect in the crown, second hand doesn’t hit markers, strap falling apart after 6 months, supposed to be 50m water resist but leaked the one time I forgot to take it off before swimming in the 2m deep pool. Looks nice but that’s it.

What size is this watch (diameter)

I have a swiss made Roamer watch which has the same issue.

At least your second hand moved. Mine turned up with a flat battery

The second hand made me cringe and gave me an uneasy feeling behind my neck.

Wait it suppose to hit second mark? None of my cheap watches does that. Even in Braun ads it misses the mark lol. Yes, they are cheaping out...

Most cheap and mid-level quartz miss a beat, but I agree it's an outrage

They can pull a DW and remove the second hand so problem sloved.

tbh I've never had a watch that hits the second hand markers, and I've had dozens ranging from £3 Chinesium to £300 Casio & Citizen.

I've not bought Tissots due to the same issue - it's not the movement.

OK I’m in the USA and many scenes in all of your videos are blurred out, what is up with that?

Have you tried the second watch at your ankle? Germans have wrist sizing same as your ankles. If you want the second markers to hit exactly to the indexes then buy a grand Seiko quartz.

Don’t think it’s that much to do with the movement. Seen Certina and Hamilton watches with good and expensive quartz-movements, and they don’t hit the markers either.

I bought one lovely watch true it does not have good accuracy withe the second hand but it doesn’t concern me still a lovely watch