So good that the UK joined the Boxer program again after abandoning it! Wars show every time, that a diversified and spread out production is mandatory to create a resilient supply and production chain. Rheinmetall Australia has just begun with the production of the Boxer and Germany already ordered Boxer in Australia. If the UK can ramp up production, the UK can earn money with the Boxer too!

Joint cooperation agreements between countries is the best thing there is. No matter which country develops it, you also need the corresponding of high-end industry and jobs are also secured. In addition, when using joint projects, the costs are greatly reduced. Thats i think is the main key: cost reduction, cost reduction........

Nice to see the army's getting back the equipment they were asking for

Absolutely lethal platform

Why do so many so called "defence" experts mis-pronounce Thales. Its French and it TAA-LES

It’s the classic conundrum that the mod has, trying to get too much out of too little and the end product that the British armed forces end up with is a piece of kit that’s good for fuck all, Well done London. 💩

@wudruffwildcard252

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, sitting on an island 95% of defense spending should go into Navy and Airforce! Unless one wants to invade other countries!

I wouldn't put "lethality and Boxer" in the same sentence. It just doesn't add up.

@gregoryemmanuel9168

3 жыл бұрын

Uhuh, yes and no doubt you’re the expert

@BritishFreedom

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryemmanuel9168 It's an armoured troop transport.

@user-py9cy1sy9u

3 жыл бұрын

@@BritishFreedom 30mm is 30mm

@squirepraggerstope3591

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-py9cy1sy9u Or iow, the Warrior upgrade to a CT40 would've indeed represented an increase in lethality. After all, 40mm is 40mm

Any news on a CT40 armed turret?

The warrior upgrade was cancelled ages ago

Hold the press….. Ajax massive failure, Warrior still a goer

@gusgone4527

3 жыл бұрын

Ajax issues are being solved but at what cost? Insider info reports the new upgrades for British service have caused problems with the already in service proven platform. Sometimes it is necessary to take risks to procure cutting edge tech, but not in this case. It's the usual stupid procurement system of the MoD/HM Gov. to blame. Spending the money before fully testing the design and final product. If this happened in the private sector heads would roll and rightly so. All politicians and more importantly, civil servants involved in giving the Ajax go-ahead BEFORE the vehicles were field tested. Should be publicly humiliated, sacked and their pensions stripped. Jail an option if the c-up was deliberate. The next shower to be promoted will be very careful what they sign in the future. This is not your usual Whitehall blunder. Defence is the primary function of government and everything else is dependant on it.

@thecurlew7403

2 жыл бұрын

@@gusgone4527 Well you can go with boxer it has anti tank cp if added the simple solution would be to order 500 boxers and 500 cv 90s you then have a good fromt line system since warrior is being retired.

@gusgone4527

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecurlew7403 Agreed but keep Warrior too with an upgraded turret and simplified drive train. Use them to mechanise the entire reserve infantry and various corps.

@thecurlew7403

2 жыл бұрын

@@gusgone4527 Yea that could work theres no reason why warrior could not have an atgw these are fire and forget weapons if you arm all your ifvs both wheeled and tracked with atgw you dont really need tanks you get all in one package put a few cv90 120mm gun light tanks in amongst the battle group they are fast hard to hit and can deal with tanks.

so these boxer vehicles where meant to add to the other vehicles that are now to be retired , that leaves us 700 short of where we should be so are they going to order another 700 boxers ?

@lilpold9192

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

Such a weird world where armament is not bought on what is best in combat conditions but on how many jobs it will create.

@gustavmeyrink_2.0

Жыл бұрын

The Boxer is the best in combat conditions. The British were prepared NOT to buy the best unless the UK version of this German/Dutch piece of kit is assembled in Britain.

They cannot even get 1 f'ing minute into the presentation about THE VEHICLE before they are talking about "jobs for the workingman". WHEN will the real "workingman" wake the hell up and stop being played like a fool by the politicians and the corporations own them?!?!

Are the tyres pneumatic or solid rubber ?

@claudebylion9932

3 жыл бұрын

They will be puncture resistant.

@scratchy996

2 жыл бұрын

Pneumatic with solid rubber run-flat inserts.

Well done Germany

the UK boxer at the moment will have no turreted variants even though their are existing variants that operate weapons systems such as 30mm and a few others both smaller and larger calibres

@scratchy996

2 жыл бұрын

The advantage of the Boxer is that it's modular, you can replace the modules based on needs, from APC to AA, to IFV, and even artillery or fire support with an 105mm cannon.

@bobthecanon3457

Жыл бұрын

The BOXER has a modular structure... which means that the base vehicle can be converted to the respective module within a very short time. Be it the 30mm or 35mm turret, as artillery or soon with a heavy 120mm gun turret. UK receives a very versatile vehicle, which can also take on various roles afterwards with different modules and without complicated conversions. That's why it's not a problem. Germany also had no BOXER with a heavy turret at first, only the variant with a light weapon system (max. 12.7mm or automatic grenade cannon). Soon we will also get the BOXER with the 35mm turret. Rather, I see the BOXER as a light battle tank. There is also a 120mm turret that turns the BOXER into a light battle tank. Or the version as artillery in 155mm. UK has all the options and is not limited to just one configuration when purchasing. This is what makes the BOXER so versatile.

I THINK THE BOXER IS A VERY DANGEROUS WEAPON.

Deep mud will probably bog it down, it's heavy and it'll sink, tracks would be better?

@85daniel

8 ай бұрын

There is also a chassis version with tracks but the vehicle is in some armys in service for years now and there were no problems with mud yet. E.g. the germans in lithuania

Do not underestimate the British.

@rg-cc5kg

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. They are great in buying german engineering.

I can only see boxer working in hot climates like Africa. Can see it getting bogged down in any temperate or wet climates.

That’s not a Boxer on the front page!!!

Looks the business,except the tyres, Could they be shot out easier than tracks ?

@user-py9cy1sy9u

3 жыл бұрын

They are run flat tires. Once shot you can drive for like 80km or so.

@kizzyp2735

3 жыл бұрын

Take a track out and the vehicle is a mobility kill ....you would probably need to completely destroy at least 3 tyres on one side of the boxer to mobility kill it.

british and sudan 🇬🇧🇸🇩

british and sudan 🇬🇧🇸🇩💖💖

@innouniversedoineedthis

3 жыл бұрын

Sudon't

@abdoallahothman3827

3 жыл бұрын

@@innouniversedoineedthis whay

With Boxer and Ajax together being far superior to the now ancient Warriors, it makes sense to retire the old girl..... even though she has served the British Army well over the last 200 years....🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌

@seeks252

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@rows10

2 жыл бұрын

@@seeks252 Yet the FV432 the Warrior was meant to replace in the 1980s is still in service as the Bulldog. 500 refurbished to last until mid 2020s. Not bad for a 60 year old design. Lets see how long the Army has to make the Boxer last?

@alexorr2322

2 жыл бұрын

@@rows10 The Bulldogs are in no way fit for service anymore, they are a piece on junk that is given to non combat arms as they didn't buy enough of the Warriors. They would struggle to stop a 7.62 round in certain areas.

@rows10

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexorr2322 Correct: the FV432 is no longer fit for service. it was designed for a different role, that of an armoured taxi to get the infantry to a place were they could dismount in some protection, much the same as the american M113. The introduction of the Soviet BMP with a 73mm gun became the 1st IFV in 1969 meant the FV432 was outdated then. The fact it is still in use is due to defence policy, Your equipment is supplied by the lowest bidder. ie It is cheaper to update a design than buying new more effective equipment..

The thumbnail image is not boxer It is Finish vehicle

All of the Boxers should be completely made in the UK or the deal should be cancelled.

@carlgreene538

2 жыл бұрын

@Wilhelm Eley Just upgrade the warriors.

@carlgreene538

2 жыл бұрын

@Wilhelm Eley Go away you sad troll!

@TheRst2001

2 жыл бұрын

First 100 built by germans tge restvon wales

@wudruffwildcard252

Жыл бұрын

Listen, the production will go up significantly, because Germany has a lot of demand for the Boxer. Germany now has heavy forces with Leopard2 and Puma, but they are creating fast deployable medium forces based on the Boxer(basically the 30mm armed Australian Boxer). And those Boxers for medium forces were never planned long term, so Germany right now is buying up all the capacity they can get. They ordered 123 Boxers in Australia and if any Boxer producing country can ramp up the production, they will profit too!

@85daniel

8 ай бұрын

Is there currently a vehicle which parts are 100% from one land? In the USA maybe. It's too expensive and to difficult to get the know how and technic of all suppliers to one land. The alternative is a worse vehicle.

Would have been cheaper to cancel box and upgrade warrior

@TANKs-bs3ip

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Boxer is better

@chrisrowland1514

3 жыл бұрын

It is cheaper to run and deploy the Boxer and it is all down to money , even though it is a mistake cancelling warrior upgrade

@SaorAlba1970

3 жыл бұрын

The UK is finished ... Scotland will be leaving the UK our place is in the EU and the UK armed forces will lose £4 billion a year in defence spending from Scottish taxpayers and London will have to move their nukes and submarines from Scotland ... they can move them to the river Thames for all i care :)

@GI.Jared1984

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaorAlba1970 actually when talking about the Scottish question. Scotland is a net negative on the UK's national income. more is spent on benefits to the Scottish people than is taken in via tax from them. in fact England would be better off if it was to get rid of Scotland Northern Ireland and Wales all of these peripherals .are a drain on England wealth simply put England doesn't need Scotland I'm Scottish by the way you. lol

@GI.Jared1984

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisrowland1514 I don't really like Boxer

The Titel says Boxer but the Thumbnail shows a Patria…

We need to remove mod put the.procurement of equipment for our millitary they contiuely screw it up costing mod billions and late delivery of mutch needed gear, Ajax and chally3 latest screwups. Ajax is unfit for purpose and chally is waste of time,why build a tank that outdated now time for change

@GGG19872

2 жыл бұрын

how is chally upgrade a screwup?

@caseymendell3368

Жыл бұрын

@@GGG19872look man I love the chally but it’s getting kind of well shit… Like don’t get me wrong it’s still definitely usable but we just need a new design it’s such a old fucking design by now

@GGG19872

Жыл бұрын

@@caseymendell3368 it does need replacing but this new upgrade is definitely not shit, the entire turret is a new design. It brings it to around the level of a new abrams or leopard.

@caseymendell3368

Жыл бұрын

@@GGG19872 I mean to be honest I always thought the turret was amazing the real problem is the hull it’s A bit slower than other western tanks and the real problem is that it doesn’t have composite armour on the lower plate allowing rounds and missiles to go straight through the bottom

british and sudan 🇬🇧🤝🇸🇩

@SaorAlba1970

3 жыл бұрын

The UK is finished ... Scotland will be leaving the UK our place is in the EU and the UK armed forces will lose £4 billion a year in defence spending from Scottish taxpayers and London will have to move their nukes and submarines from Scotland ... they can move them to the river Thames for all i care :)

@markrainford1219

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaorAlba1970 Yeah but we will save four billion a year in hand-outs to scottyland.

GB out fo EU and then buy German that really make sense??? Haaaaaaaaaaa

@minimax9452

2 жыл бұрын

no - we 🇩🇪 should not deliver boxer to uk.

@springer3783

2 жыл бұрын

Why does leaving the eu mean we don’t want to do business with Europe ?

Boxer is not better than any other and still expensive....... Are the Brit`s going crazy???? You can make it yourself......

Sorry that Scotland will say "Mar sin leat" and taking with it the North Sea oil field. North Ireland will say "slán agat" and happily spending Irish money. Who do you want to fight with?